What on earth is India up to in Kashmir?

[veeray]

in a single day they airlifted 6162 yatries out of valley. post Pulwama attack, they left us frightened in the land sliding areas, they left us in the dominant radical hindu areas who were continuously vandalising our vehicles and Pelting stones on us...
There is a security threat for ur people! who are ur people? of course the people being driven out of state for security reasons...
Those who are left behind aren't indians, they are Kashmires...
How can we ever consider ourselves indians?
Never...

 

[warcry]

There is a parlimentary meet at 8 am ist tomorrow. 2 important resolutions to be passed ...

remember that as per simla declaration, kashmir is a bilateral issue, therefore india cannot unilaterally change the status of J&K.

 

[cricketjoshila]

in a single day they airlifted 6162 yatries out of valley. post Pulwama attack, they left us frightened in the land sliding areas, they left us in the dominant radical hindu areas who were continuously vandalising our vehicles and Pelting stones on us...
There is a security threat for ur people! who are ur people? of course the people being driven out of state for security reasons...
Those who are left behind aren't indians, they are Kashmires...
How can we ever consider ourselves indians?
Never...

Most of those vacated are hindus. People of a religion who were targetted and killed by terrorists in the past.

Yatris have been attacked and killed.

Pandits have been killed and driven out of their homes.

So to take extra precaution in their case is not wrong.

 

[cricketjoshila]

remember that as per simla declaration, kashmir is a bilateral issue, therefore india cannot unilaterally change the status of J&K.

Pakistan cant support terrorists in Kashmir either.

 

[warcry]

Pakistan cant support terrorists in Kashmir either.

and that is not happening either. pakistan would be unable to support "terrorists" in kashmir if pakistan wanted to.

you can either stick to the principles of the simla declaration, or you can just say that the declaration is null and void, and stop using it as an excuse to refuse 3rd party mediation.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Tomorrow could be the great day for kashmiris and indians.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

very evident India are going to do what Israel did in the west bank.

No wonder these hardcore Hindus always praise Israel on social media.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Tomorrow could be the great day for kashmiris and indians.

I understand how it may be a great day for Indians, but how exactly is it a great day for Kashmiris? They dont want anything to do with India.

 

[Akki malhotra]

It's all about terrorists input which India got I feel. If India has to remove article 370 or 35 A then India would have waited for Amarnath yatra to get over. It's about terrorism input across the border, which India has been facing since over decades.

 

[m.shah]

Ok guys the present situation is that
Political leaders like omer Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti are placed under house arrest first time in the history of kashmir.
Internet is blocked uptill now and cellular connections are also being blocked.
Whole kashmir is sleepless

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">Mehbooba Mufti, Omar Abdullah to be placed under house arrest: Sources <a href="https://t.co/V5GtS11NMU">https://t.co/V5GtS11NMU</a> <a href="https://t.co/Gp2QRLLhE0">pic.twitter.com/Gp2QRLLhE0</a></p>— NDTV (@ndtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1158084694883352577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jammu & Kashmir: Mobile internet services partially suspended in Kashmir. <a href="https://t.co/6IyyCVBhHX">pic.twitter.com/6IyyCVBhHX</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1158077029436264448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[m.shah]

It's all about terrorists input which India got I feel. If India has to remove article 370 or 35 A then India would have waited for Amarnath yatra to get over. It's about terrorism input across the border, which India has been facing since over decades.

That is a typical makeup story from India

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

expecting riots tomorrow if the rumors are true.

 

[cricketjoshila]

and that is not happening either. pakistan would be unable to support "terrorists" in kashmir if pakistan wanted to.

you can either stick to the principles of the simla declaration, or you can just say that the declaration is null and void, and stop using it as an excuse to refuse 3rd party mediation.

1. India doesnot need the Shimla declaration to reject mediation. Mediation means both parties have to agree.

2. Pakistan is supporting. Pakistani president accepted it. Terrorists like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar stay in Pakistan. So do the likes of Syed Salahuddin and others.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I understand how it may be a great day for Indians, but how exactly is it a great day for Kashmiris? They dont want anything to do with India.

Tell that to the non sunni muslims and non muslims.

 

[Akki malhotra]

expecting riots tomorrow if the rumors are true.

Pandits got killed long back. Pilgrims got airlifted today. Only Kashmiris and army left there. How is riot possible.?

 

[Swashbuckler]

Stay safe Kashmir based PPers. Hope things de-escalate and there is no violence.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

If this is related to 370/35a then people can’t complain that they had no warning - it was printed in black and white in the BJP manifesto.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Tell that to the non sunni muslims and non muslims.

Majority of Kashmiris percentage wise do not want to be part of India.

Whether you include Kashmiiri pundits or not in that survey, still majority percentage wise reject India.

 

[warcry]

1. India doesnot need the Shimla declaration to reject mediation. Mediation means both parties have to agree.

2. Pakistan is supporting. Pakistani president accepted it. Terrorists like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar stay in Pakistan. So do the likes of Syed Salahuddin and others.

1) Then does India continusely remind the world of the simla declaration, whenever someone offers mediation?

2) Terrorism, Terrorism, Terrorsim. Since you want to talk about terror, answer the question.

Q) What was Kulbushan Yadav, an Indian military man, doing in Baluchistan?

 

[blackanhyellow]

1) Then does India continusely remind the world of the simla declaration, whenever someone offers mediation?

2) Terrorism, Terrorism, Terrorsim. Since you want to talk about terror, answer the question.

Q) What was Kulbushan Yadav, an Indian military man, doing in Baluchistan?

Everyone knows Yadav was in Balochistan to eat some sajji.

Sajji is a local delicacy, he couldnt get it in uttar pradesh, so he decided to test out the famous Pakistani mehmaan nawaazi.

One mistake he made was woh khusboo laga ke agaya, ab hum jaane thorayi denge usse

 

[Syed1]

Everyone knows Yadav was in Balochistan to eat some sajji.

Sajji is a local delicacy, he couldnt get it in uttar pradesh, so he decided to test out the famous Pakistani mehmaan nawaazi.

One mistake he made was woh khusboo laga ke agaya, ab hum jaane thorayi denge usse

I hope he is enjoying all the fantastic tea he is getting


Kalbo will die of "natural causes" in a Pakistani jail

 

[WebGuru]

AJK Govt issues free arm licences to the members of village defence committees in the five kilometre radius of Line of control (LoC)

MUZAFFARABAD - Azad Jammu and Kashmir government has directed all the deputy commissioners and assistant commissioners to issue free arm licences and renew earlier ones without fee to the members of village defence committees in the five kilometre radius of Line of control (LoC).

According to a notification, the directives have been issue in the wake of prevailing situation at LoC, so that the people could defend themselves in the war-like circumstances created by cross-LoC firing and shelling by Indian army.

All the district magistrates had been directed to recommend the names of members of village defence committees for issuance of licences of non-prohibited arms in their favour for their self-protection, the notification added.


Source: https://nation.com.pk/04-Aug-2019/loc-villagers-issued-free-arm-licences

 

[Mueez]

An earthquake has been felt in Kashmir.

5.5

 

[Varun]

Hope it doesn't involve any aerial acrobatics with one of our MiG-21 superheroes going in hot pursuit across the border and predictably being taken down.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hope those who accused us of rumour mongering realise that our fears weren’t misplaced. Leaders under house arrest, broadband services suspended & section 144 enforced isn’t normal by any standard.</p>— Mehbooba Mufti (@MehboobaMufti) <a href="https://twitter.com/MehboobaMufti/status/1158105744576638976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those who’re celebrating the situation here are ignorant about the far reaching consequences of any unilateral action that’ll taken by GOI.</p>— Mehbooba Mufti (@MehboobaMufti) <a href="https://twitter.com/MehboobaMufti/status/1158105756790480896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So we can debunk the stories that were being fed to the channels about everything that’s been happening in Kashmir over the last few days, including the yatra stoppage, happening because of Pakistan. <a href="https://t.co/1vn4qDabfw">https://t.co/1vn4qDabfw</a></p>— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarAbdullah/status/1158071311878385664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I believe I’m being placed under house arrest from midnight tonight & the process has already started for other mainstream leaders. No way of knowing if this is true but if it is then I’ll see all of you on the other side of whatever is in store. Allah save us &#55357;&#56911;&#55356;&#57340;</p>— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarAbdullah/status/1158075327333031941?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Gabbar Singh]

Wouldn’t be surprised if the Abdullah's are in on this all and the house arrest is just for drama purposes. They are one of the wealthiest families in the region yet up until recently no official questions have been asked about their finances.

Then all of a sudden they secure a meeting with the PM and now this?

 

[blackanhyellow]

Wouldn’t be surprised if the Abdullah's are in on this all and the house arrest is just for drama purposes. They are one of the wealthiest families in the region yet up until recently no official questions have been asked about their finances.

Then all of a sudden they secure a meeting with the PM and now this?

That is exactly what I was thinking.

If Abduallah openly supports India here, he loses the rest of the little credibility he has left with Kashmiris.

After India does what it is intending, guys like Abdullah will be used to control the anger.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1) India has turned Kashmir into a black hole right now. With normal life thrown out of gear, no clarity on the situation, no advisory/communication for local people from the government, there's panic, speculation and rumor-mongering all around. Phones and internet are off.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158114681875075072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2) People living outside Kashmir are unable to contact their relatives and are wondering whether they are okay. Expectant mothers whose delivery dates are due soon, are highly scared and apprehensive. Traders and employees don't know whether they've to go to work tomorrow or not!</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158115120460881920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3) Mainstream leaders are apparently being watched and there's deployment of forces outside their houses. Ground mobilizers have been taken into preventive custody - a process that's been going on for a few days. High ranking officers in the government have no clue about things.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158115478159556609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4) Everyone is asking the same question: "What is happening in Kashmir?" But nobody, not even the Governor has an answer. In a Jagmohan-era like move, non-locals were quickly escorted out of the state, while locals were made to panic and stock up essentials in the meantime.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158116150791659520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5) In the absence of any credible information from the government, all kinds of rumours have been allowed to float. The government has deliberately allowed the spread of misinformation. There's no clarity on what is genuine news and what is fake news anymore. Officials are mute.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158116606217637888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6) It is classic BJP style to panic, inconvenience and psychologically harass people - be it during demonetisation, post-Pulwama violence or now - by doing so, the ruling party wants to satisfy the jingoistic lust of its supporters who enjoy and encourage bloodshed and violence.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158117135534551040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">7) By doing so, the ruling party wants to convince its supporters that they are doing something great. In reality, it's a massive failure of governance, security and intelligence that despite AFSPA & over half a million troops, Modi govt couldn't make non-locals stay in Kashmir.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158117620383490049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">8) More than anyone else, BJP supporters need to understand that this is a policy and security failure of the present govt. Yatris had their religious rights violated. Tourists were deported from Kashmir as if they are non-citizens. Non-local students were forced to go home.</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158118165374574593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">9) Heart-breaking to see all voices from Kashmir being drowned out. This is how leadership in Kashmir has been destroyed since Sheikh Abdullah's 1953 ouster. Even our ceremonial head, the Governor, is being kept in the dark. That's why no one can control the situation in Kashmir!</p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158118890859143168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">10) Kashmiris in all parts of the world are staying up tonight, as phone services are being shut down in their beloved homeland. The ground situation is fine as of now. May be there'll be a curfew tomorrow (conflicting indications from govt). <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrayForKashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PrayForKashmir</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KashmirBleeds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KashmirBleeds</a></p>— Shehla Rashid شہلا رشید (@Shehla_Rashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/status/1158119641832574976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Thomaskutty]

Wouldn’t be surprised if the Abdullah's are in on this all and the house arrest is just for drama purposes. They are one of the wealthiest families in the region yet up until recently no official questions have been asked about their finances.

Then all of a sudden they secure a meeting with the PM and now this?

Maybe. Omar Abdullah has more or less resigned himself to the fact article 370 and 35A are going to be nullified, and I doubt he's going to protest it once he's free. You sorta get that vibe from his tweets.

The Mehbooba lady is likely to be more opportunistic and make some noise once she's let loose from house arrest.

 

[adzzy786]

Really fearing the worst tonight. Think India will kill thousands of Muslims and there’s Is no internet for the world to see. I pray for those living in that region who will be living in fear

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Urgent: Severe internet disruption registered in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Srinagar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Srinagar</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> with backbone access largely severed by India from 18:00 UTC; information blackout poses immediate risk to safety and rights of individuals; incident ongoing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KeepItOn?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KeepItOn</a><br>&#55357;&#56560; <a href="https://t.co/ENx1iLc4nQ">https://t.co/ENx1iLc4nQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/jv0KMbp3CM">pic.twitter.com/jv0KMbp3CM</a></p>— NetBlocks.org (@netblocks) <a href="https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1158132188103225346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[sensible-indian-fan]

Not giving information is psychological torture.

Its not like terrorists are happily sleeping in this climate anyway so you can catch them off guard. So i dont get what could be the reason.

What's wrong with our government?

 

[blackanhyellow]

Not giving information is psychological torture.

Its not like terrorists are happily sleeping in this climate anyway so you can catch them off guard. So i dont get what could be the reason.

What's wrong with our government?

Could be a ploy to get some of the separatists to make the first move, as they would be confused as well to what is going on.

Then any following action would be seen as a response by Indian Army as self defence, and BJP will say we say this coming, we heard radio chatter from ISI that they were planning this attack which is why we mobilized more troops.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Could be a ploy to get some of the separatists to make the first move, as they would be confused as well to what is going on.

Then any following action would be seen as a response by Indian Army as self defence, and BJP will say we say this coming, we heard radio chatter from ISI that they were planning this attack which is why we mobilized more troops.

Doubt it.

Probably something to do with Article 35A.

But that has to be passed in both houses which is a long battle.

Not sure if there is a special order that can be executed.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] whats your take on this bhai?

 

[Waseem]

Indians on Twitter are absolutely excited to see destruction in Kashmir, some even celebrating murders and wishing for more dead bodies.

I responded to a disgusting tweet of Anupam Kher and within seconds my Twitter account suspended for 7 days (first time in 10 years). Looks like Hinduvta mentality is ruling twitter as well (obviously Indian workers at Twitter in action) and no one is allowed to show disgust at this shamelss behaviour.

If you go to Anupam Kher's tweet, there is some extreme filth posted by Indians but be careful not to respond otherwise your account will be suspended (DIRTY ******).

 

[blackanhyellow]

Indians on Twitter are absolutely excited to see destruction in Kashmir, some even celebrating murders and wishing for more dead bodies.

I responded to a disgusting tweet of Anupam Kher and within seconds my Twitter account suspended for 7 days (first time in 10 years). Looks like Hinduvta mentality is ruling twitter as well (obviously Indian workers at Twitter in action) and no one is allowed to show disgust at this shamelss behaviour.

If you go to Anupam Kher's tweet, there is some extreme filth posted by Indians but be careful not to respond otherwise your account will be suspended (DIRTY ******).

Not sure how twitter works to be honest, but its probably the case if you are not a verified account with a blue check mark, and enough people report you, then twitter suspends your account until they can investigate your tweet.

I imagine all of the indian trolls reported you.

 

[Pakpak]

A. khers tweet was 'Kashmir solution has begun' absolute filth.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Kashmir Solution has begun.</p>— Anupam Kher (@AnupamPKher) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnupamPKher/status/1158095559061909504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


“Kashmir solution” is a phrase used by those from all sides of this conflict, I don’t think it has any relation, in this context, to “final solution” if that’s what people are suggesting.

Hell there is even a recent thread on PP where the poster uses this phrase.

As for people celebrating - sure there are morons and armchair generals who are salivating at the prospect of violence in the region however there are others who see this as J&K being integrated properly (if the rumours are correct however I have my doubts) into the Indian Union. Kher is probably referring to the latter as he’s talked and written about it extensively in the past.

 

[Waseem]

Not sure how twitter works to be honest, but its probably the case if you are not a verified account with a blue check mark, and enough people report you, then twitter suspends your account until they can investigate your tweet.

I imagine all of the indian trolls reported you.

Impossible because this was within 2 minutes of my tweet. All i said was that "India is on way of self destruction when they have to put under house arrest even their ex CMs (Mehbooba Mufti and Omar Abdullah) who believed in their democratic process and didn't ask for separate India. Other tweet was about Anupam Kher saying "This is real solution of Kashmir", i had to remind him that we expected better from educated celebrities who have influence on millions and called him shameless for spreading more hatred rather than diffusing.

 

[Waseem]

It's all about terrorists input which India got I feel. If India has to remove article 370 or 35 A then India would have waited for Amarnath yatra to get over. It's about terrorism input across the border, which India has been facing since over decades.

It's all about terrorism??????? That's an excuse used by HINDUVTA brigade to justify their crimes against innocent Kashmiris.

If this is about terrorism then why on earth would your put your own ex CMs Mehbooba Mufti and Omar Abdullah under house arrest?? Are they terrorists? You mean people who believed in Indian democratic system are terrorists??? If even these people are terrorists then easy to say likes of you believe every Kashmiri is terrorist.

 

[90MPH]

It’s a game by Modi government.

They promised anti corruption crackdown but they have delivered squat all in 5 years. You look at the right wing governments in Brazil and the Philippines and it’s the exact mirror image happening in those places.

But they know they can play culture to their base and whip up national hysteria be it Kashmir or the Beef Issue.

This current Modi government will go down as the most Right wing nationalistic in Indian history. They have whipped up the entire nation including the entertainment industry in such a demagogue way. Just on social idea you get an indication what the average guy is thinking. You can’t even interact with them in a meaningful way.

Looking back at Vajpayee he seemed a total dove in comparison such are the times.

 

[xbronze]

It’s a game by Modi government.

They promised anti corruption crackdown but they have delivered squat all in 5 years. You look at the right wing governments in Brazil and the Philippines and it’s the exact mirror image happening in those places.

But they know they can play culture to their base and whip up national hysteria be it Kashmir or the Beef Issue.

This current Modi government will go down as the most Right wing nationalistic in Indian history. They have whipped up the entire nation including the entertainment industry in such a demagogue way. Just on social idea you get an indication what the average guy is thinking. You can’t even interact with them in a meaningful way.

Looking back at Vajpayee he seemed a total dove in comparison such are the times.

Vajpayee was dovish, at times even more dovish than the Congress party governments. Yet I remember that Vajpayee and his government got the exact same treatment from folks in Pakistan and liberals in India.

The constant refrain was that he and his government are perpetual war mongers out to spill muslim blood.

 

[m.shah]

Not giving information is psychological torture.

Its not like terrorists are happily sleeping in this climate anyway so you can catch them off guard. So i dont get what could be the reason.

What's wrong with our government?

This is torture I have never felt before couldn't sleep whole night. I am literally crying right now. India is not doing good by doing this. It is killing us slowly

 

[90MPH]

Vajpayee was dovish, at times even more dovish than the Congress party governments. Yet I remember that Vajpayee and his government got the exact same treatment from folks in Pakistan and liberals in India.

The constant refrain was that he and his government are perpetual war mongers out to spill muslim blood.

True at the time he was but let’s remember he mended relations with Pakistan as well.

The nationalism and jingoistic hysteria is nothing like it is now. It’s gone to the next level because actually Modi has been hands off and given free reign to his government and its tentacles to do what they please.

He’s been more of a puppet to the BJP than a leader, at least from the outside looking in.

 

[xbronze]

Impossible because this was within 2 minutes of my tweet. All i said was that "India is on way of self destruction when they have to put under house arrest even their ex CMs (Mehbooba Mufti and Omar Abdullah) who believed in their democratic process and didn't ask for separate India. Other tweet was about Anupam Kher saying "This is real solution of Kashmir", i had to remind him that we expected better from educated celebrities who have influence on millions and called him shameless for spreading more hatred rather than diffusing.

[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION], nothing in your tweet appear objectionable to me. If I have to pick something in it, it would be the highlighted portion above.

A friendly suggestion. Whenever we are angry and/or impassioned about an issue, before we post an online message, it is best to re-read and delete any potentially offending words. For one we may invite a ban. And more importantly, it only dilutes our message.

Mr. Kher's fans likely reported your tweet just to get rid of your message.

 

[MenInG]

Top politicians in Indian-administered Kashmir have been put under house arrest, days after thousands of troops were deployed to the disputed region.

Public meetings have been banned and reports say mobile networks and the internet have been restricted.

Last week authorities also ordered tourists and Hindu pilgrims to leave, citing a "terror threat" against an annual pilgrimage to a major shrine.

It is unclear what is behind the latest moves, which have stoked tensions.

It was in the early hours of Monday that two former chief ministers of Indian-administered Kashmir, Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti, were placed under house arrest.

No explanation has been given yet but it comes amid speculation Delhi might be poised to remove Kashmir's special privileges, such as a provision which prevents people from outside the state buying land there.

Earlier, the detained politicians and other leaders issued a resolution warning Delhi of "consequences" if it "changed the special status of Kashmir".

India's ruling BJP party stated in its manifesto that it would aim to revoke the part of the constitution, Article 35A, that means only permanent residents can buy land in Indian-administered Kashmir.

Such a move would spark anger and escalate tensions with Pakistan. India and Pakistan both claim all of Muslim-majority Kashmir, but control only parts of it.

In addition to the evacuation order in the wake of the terror warnings issued by the authorities, there have also been reports of skirmishes across the de facto border in recent days.

India accuses Pakistan of backing militant groups based in Kashmir, which Pakistan denies.

The influx of troops, the terror warnings and the speculation about Kashmir's status have alarmed residents across the Indian-ruled region, many of whom queued for hours outside petrol stations, supermarkets and cash machines.

The last time comparable restrictions were imposed on Kashmir was in 2016 after the killing of a popular rebel leader sparked months of street protests that left dozens dead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49230883

 

[ILcricket]

Scary times . Wonder where we will all end up in 5 years under this vile oaf .

 

[CCAD]

I won't be surprised if all the nations of the ummah impose sanctions/blockade on India in response to this tweet.

Given Pakistan's tall diplomatic standing and how well Pakistan has cornered India around the Kashmir issue on the world stage, I am sure that all Arab and Islamic states of the Ummah shall also withdraw their ambassadors from India with immediate effect, in response to this tweet.

Great diplomatic victory for Pakistan...this tweet.

As if the Arabs care about the Kashmiri or the muslim brotherhood.
Good economic ties with India are important for them as well.

 

[DeadlyYorker]

remember that as per simla declaration, kashmir is a bilateral issue, therefore india cannot unilaterally change the status of J&K.

Ofc it can and it will

 

[Thomaskutty]

Article 370 to be revoked .. it is official. Amit Shah proposes amendment in Parliament.

 

[Kaptan]

370 to be scrapped. Great news.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This is torture I have never felt before couldn't sleep whole night. I am literally crying right now. India is not doing good by doing this. It is killing us slowly

I am so sorry bro.

This is not right.

Stay safe.

Nobody can kill Kashmiris and get away with it. Don't believe in those rumours.

Just sit tight in your homes.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I am so sorry bro.

This is not right.

Stay safe.

Nobody can kill Kashmiris and get away with it. Don't believe in those rumours.

Just sit tight in your homes.

"Nobody can kill kashmiris and get away with it"
Remember kashmiri pandits bro.

 

[Waseem]

"Nobody can kill kashmiris and get away with it"
Remember kashmiri pandits bro.

I am sick and tired of heartless idiots crying about selective justice based on religion obviously. Why can't you condemn the injustice based on humanity alone? What happened to pandits justifies everything you are doing to other Kashmiris who happen to be above 80% of the population?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

I am sick and tired of heartless idiots crying about selective justice based on religion obviously. Why can't you condemn the injustice based on humanity alone? What happened to pandits justifies everything you are doing to other Kashmiris who happen to be above 80% of the population?

I am aware of the bad condition of kashmiris but they themselves are responsible for it.
Secondly removal of article 370 will be good for kashmiris who believe in living in harmony instead of extreme radical islamic views.

 

[Kaptan]

This step will prove to be a significant boon for progressive Muslims/Kashmiris. They will get access to better education, healthcare, better jobs, more business. Quality of life will improve significantly. Ladakhis are already celebrating.

Huge loss for stone pelters and terrorists though.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

"Nobody can kill kashmiris and get away with it"
Remember kashmiri pandits bro.

I am talking about now.

 

[Abdullah719]

This step will prove to be a significant boon for progressive Muslims/Kashmiris. They will get access to better education, healthcare, better jobs, more business. Quality of life will improve significantly. Ladakhis are already celebrating.

Huge loss for stone pelters and terrorists though.

Israeli officials said the same about the West Bank... congrats on following them to a tee.

 

[ILcricket]

this was expected . Done not constitutionally so not kosher . Hope P Army & ISI do not use this to cause bloodshed .

 

[Pete Rose]

This step will prove to be a significant boon for progressive Muslims/Kashmiris. They will get access to better education, healthcare, better jobs, more business. Quality of life will improve significantly. Ladakhis are already celebrating.

Huge loss for stone pelters and terrorists though.

Can one not be a conservative muslim and a proud Indian?

 

[xbronze]

Can one not be a conservative muslim and a proud Indian?

Millions already are

 

[Pete Rose]

Millions already are

Seems like the poster whom I responded to saw it as a binary choice: i.e. progressive muslims in kashmir will embrace this..

 

[Bigboii]

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I am aware of the bad condition of kashmiris but they themselves are responsible for it.
Secondly removal of article 370 will be good for kashmiris who believe in living in harmony instead of extreme radical islamic views.

It's been almost 1 year please tell how Kashmiris benefited from this?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This step will prove to be a significant boon for progressive Muslims/Kashmiris. They will get access to better education, healthcare, better jobs, more business. Quality of life will improve significantly. Ladakhis are already celebrating.

Huge loss for stone pelters and terrorists though.

They don't even have 4G and you were talking about getting access to better education, healthcare and jobs? In this day and age and during this pandemic you want to see people lining up in queue to pay their bills. Why? Because feku decided to keep them away from internet so that the real truth of all this mess doesn't come out.

 

[ElRaja]

 

[Extra_Cover]

The documentary shares some harrowing tales and I'm sure its one of many.

The situation in Kashmir is not going to change unfortunately and that is the harsh reality. The oppressed would be oppressed further.

Pakistan should continue to fight the case of Kashmiri people internationally. However, given the international clout of India combined with the bad image of Pakistan on world forum its not going to be a battle Pakistan would win. Therefore, Pakistan should on other hand start seeking other ways to help Kashmiri people.

For me personally, I don't care about the piece of land I care more about the people suffering in there and I'm sure many human right activists feel the same too. Therefore, Pakistan should work with international community and work towards a program whereby they are in a position to grant refuge to people from Kashmir in Pakistan.

This program should not mean open door policy and would require application and background check on people seeking refuge. Women and kids should be prioritized given the brunt of human rights violations are suffered by them mainly. I'm hopeful that international community as well as India would welcome this program. Action speak louder than words and I hope we put together some form of action to help people of Kashmir, even if we manage to slowly intake and save a miniscule number of people from violations then its a job well done.

 

[BreadPakoda]

The documentary shares some harrowing tales and I'm sure its one of many.

The situation in Kashmir is not going to change unfortunately and that is the harsh reality. The oppressed would be oppressed further.

Pakistan should continue to fight the case of Kashmiri people internationally. However, given the international clout of India combined with the bad image of Pakistan on world forum its not going to be a battle Pakistan would win. Therefore, Pakistan should on other hand start seeking other ways to help Kashmiri people.

For me personally, I don't care about the piece of land I care more about the people suffering in there and I'm sure many human right activists feel the same too. Therefore, Pakistan should work with international community and work towards a program whereby they are in a position to grant refuge to people from Kashmir in Pakistan.

This program should not mean open door policy and would require application and background check on people seeking refuge. Women and kids should be prioritized given the brunt of human rights violations are suffered by them mainly. I'm hopeful that international community as well as India would welcome this program. Action speak louder than words and I hope we put together some form of action to help people of Kashmir, even if we manage to slowly intake and save a miniscule number of people from violations then its a job well done.

Is there not an open door policy already in place?

I agree that Kashmiris will benefit a lot out of such an approach. Also agree with you that a lot of Indians would welcome this step. Additionally it could go a long way in improving Pakistan’s global image.

 

[ElRaja]

For me personally, I don't care about the piece of land I care more about the people suffering in there and I'm sure many human right activists feel the same too. Therefore, Pakistan should work with international community and work towards a program whereby they are in a position to grant refuge to people from Kashmir in Pakistan.

This program should not mean open door policy and would require application and background check on people seeking refuge. Women and kids should be prioritized given the brunt of human rights violations are suffered by them mainly. I'm hopeful that international community as well as India would welcome this program. Action speak louder than words and I hope we put together some form of action to help people of Kashmir, even if we manage to slowly intake and save a miniscule number of people from violations then its a job well done.

i agree with the sentiment that something needs to be done, but as far as i know a million, or more, kashmiris have settled in pakistan post partition.

the ones who are there, stay because they know if they leave they will never go back, and for most of the women that is an untenable situation.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The documentary shares some harrowing tales and I'm sure its one of many.

The situation in Kashmir is not going to change unfortunately and that is the harsh reality. The oppressed would be oppressed further.

Pakistan should continue to fight the case of Kashmiri people internationally. However, given the international clout of India combined with the bad image of Pakistan on world forum its not going to be a battle Pakistan would win. Therefore, Pakistan should on other hand start seeking other ways to help Kashmiri people.

For me personally, I don't care about the piece of land I care more about the people suffering in there and I'm sure many human right activists feel the same too. Therefore, Pakistan should work with international community and work towards a program whereby they are in a position to grant refuge to people from Kashmir in Pakistan.

This program should not mean open door policy and would require application and background check on people seeking refuge. Women and kids should be prioritized given the brunt of human rights violations are suffered by them mainly. I'm hopeful that international community as well as India would welcome this program. Action speak louder than words and I hope we put together some form of action to help people of Kashmir, even if we manage to slowly intake and save a miniscule number of people from violations then its a job well done.

How can you stop it from being open ended? BJP would love to see a Muslim minority in Kashmir. So you are basically asking for trouble by doing this.

And should Pakistan then tomorrow take Muslims from other parts of India as well?

In partition Pakistan did not receive any territory from a Muslim minority province however the Muslim majority ones were partitioned. So there was already a short end that Pakistan got. There is no way people who live in a 97 % Muslim area should leave.

So Indian Muslims, including Kashmiris, have to stay there and there best option is to hope that they eventually become like 20 to 25% of the population.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Is there not an open door policy already in place?

I agree that Kashmiris will benefit a lot out of such an approach. Also agree with you that a lot of Indians would welcome this step. Additionally it could go a long way in improving Pakistan’s global image.

They would, especially the Kashmiri Pandits. But it will never happen. Most of Pakistanis are not as foolish as that poster.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Case Against Terrorists For Threatening Journalists Online In Jammu And Kashmir

Srinagar:

Police on Saturday filed a case against terrorists and handlers belonging to Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and one of its offshoots for sending threat letters to journalists in Kashmir.

"Case registered against handlers, active terrorists & OGWs of terror outfit LeT & its offshoot TRF for online publication & dissemination of a direct threat letter to Journalists & reporters based in Kashmir."

"FIR No. 82/2022 U/S 13 UAPA, 505, 153B, 124A & 506 IPC in Shergari PS," Srinagar Police wrote on Twitter.

TRF or The Resistance Front, which is believed to be a shadow of the LeT outfit, had issued an online threat to a few media houses in the valley "for their traitorous" acts and "nexus with fascist Indian regime."

NDTV

 

[ex-q-zit]

Ban On Electric Heaters In Jammu And Kashmir Withdrawn After Criticism

Srinagar: Hours after its bizarre order banning the sale, possession, and use of electric heating appliances even as the Valley reels under a cold weather, the authorities in Jammu and Kashmir's Ganderbal district late Saturday withdrew it with a "correction." The qualified order came after the earlier order was met with sharp criticism from political parties across spectrum.

"Whereas this office has issued an order under section 144 of the CrPC, with an objective to ensure efficient use of electricity, its conservation and prevent the use of prohibited/unauthorised crude heating devices," Shyambir, district magistrate Ganderbal, said in the new order.

"Therefore, I... amend the operative part of the said order and issue directions as - for efficient use of energy, its conservation and for safety of life and property, do hereby prohibit sale, purchase and use of banned nichrome coil based crude water heaters and crude cooking heaters, which do not conform to the relevant specifications of the Bureau of Indian Standard," the new order said.

Earlier in the day, the district magistrate or the deputy commissioner of the central Kashmir district had imposed a ban on the sale, possession and use of electric heating appliances, even as the Valley witnessed heavy snowfall in the higher reaches.

The order had stated that the decision was taken to avoid any damage to transmission lines, unscheduled power cuts and provide hassle-free electricity supply to consumers.

"... it has been apprehended that non-judicious use of electric appliances such as blowers, heaters and radiators etc. may cause damages to transmission lines due to heavy load, resulting in disturbance in hassle-free power supply," the order read.

"By using such electric appliances, there is every apprehension of short circuits which ultimately results in fire incidents during the winter season due to which there is loss to life and property," it said.

"... in exercise of powers vested in me by virtue of Section 144 CrPC of 1973, I hereby impose a blanket ban on the storage, sale, possession and use of heavy heating appliances such as blowers, heaters and radiators etc within the territorial jurisdiction of District Ganderbal with immediate effect," the district magistrate had said.

The order stated that the decision was taken to provide hassle-free electricity supply to consumers, government offices and hospitals and avoid unscheduled power cuts which cause inconvenience to the general public and disruption of services of emergent nature, especially patient care.

Any violation of the order shall attract punitive action as warranted under relevant laws, it had said.

The order had drawn sharp reactions from political leaders and Twitter users who dubbed it "inhuman" and demanded that the Ganderbal DM be sacked.

Sharing a copy of the order on Twitter, National Conference vice president Omar Abdullah urged Lieutenant Governor Manoj Sinha to have the "draconian order" withdrawn.

"This is a ridiculous order. How can the administration impose a blanket ban on sale, usage and even storage of electrical heaters? Is the DC's heating/cooling AC covered under this Sec 144 ban? Will he have it removed from his office/home? Are people supposed to freeze to death," Abdullah asked.

"Violation of Sec 144 orders result in arrest. Is this heartless administration going to arrest parents who want to save their children from freezing to death? Or children who want to protect aged parents from the cold? @OfficeOfLGJandK must have this draconian order withdrawn," he said.

PDP spokesperson Mohit Bhan asked if such orders are issued anywhere in the country's summer belt.

"Do we issue such orders anywhere in the summer belt of the country to not use Air Conditioners during peak summers and make it a criminal offence if not obeyed. It's evident someone who doesn't understand the landscape & geography of the place can only issue such orders," he tweeted.

In a tweet, senior PDP leader and former minister Naeem Akhtar said, "Dear fellow citizens, this is where Kashmir is in the 5th year of Amrit Kaal. Night temperature is below freezing point and use of heaters has been criminalised. We have six months of snow, rain and frost ahead of us. Are we going to be frozen to death?" National spokesperson of TMC Saket Gokhale termed the order "shocking and inhuman."

"The DM of Ganderbal (a non-Kashmiri) in J&K has ordered a blanket ban on use & possession of heaters in homes. The temperature in Ganderbal right now is 10 degrees in the day & 2 degrees at night. Are you running a penal colony, @dcganderbal," he asked.

"I think DC Ganderbal should be terminated with immediate effect for this irresponsible and potentially dangerous order," a Twitter user, Tariq Tramboo, said.

NDTV

 

[daytrader]

India Has Lost Presence In 26 Of 65 Patrol Points In Eastern Ladakh: Report
The report was filed at last week's annual conference of the country's top police officers in Delhi, attended by PM Modi and Amit Shah.

India has lost access to 26 of 65 patrolling points in Eastern Ladakh, a report by a senior police officer in the union territory has said, in a worrying new disclosure amid the country's standoff with China at various flashpoints along their tottery 3,500-km frontier.
"Presently there are 65 PPs (Patrolling Points) starting from Karakoram pass to Chumur which are to be patrolled regularly by the ISFs (Indian Security Forces). Out of 65 PPs, our presence is lost in 26 PPs (i.e. PP no. 5-17, 24-32, 37, due to restrictive or no patrolling by the ISFs," PD Nitya, the Superintendent of Police of Leh, Ladakh's main city, wrote according to the research paper accessed by NDTV.

The report was filed at last week's annual conference of the country's top police officers in Delhi, attended by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Union Home Minister Amit Shah and National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.

"Later on, China forces us to accept the fact that as such areas have not seen the presence of ISFs or civilians since long, the Chinese were present in these areas. This leads to a shift in the border under control of ISFs towards Indian side and a "buffer zone" is created in all such pockets which ultimately leads to loss of control over these areas by India. This tactic of PLA (China's People's Liberation Army) to grab land inch-by-inch is known as 'Salami slicing'," it said.

"PLA has taken advantage of the buffer areas in the de-escalation talks by placing their best of cameras on the highest peaks and monitoring the movement of our forces... they object our movement even in the buffer zone, claiming it to be 'their' area of operation and then further ask us to move back to create more 'buffer' areas," the officer wrote.

She said this Chinese strategy was seen in Galwan Valley, the site of a deadly clash in 2020 when 20 Indian troops and at least four Chinese soldiers died in hand-to-hand fighting.

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https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...dakh-report-3722533#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

 

[IAJ]

Creating more buffer areas means coming closer and closer to India's actual border? Ab toh khood aitraaf kar rahay hain.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

BBC Radio 4 has a show by Avin Shah called The Half Widow. It's full of euphimism. Quite sordid actually

 

[daytrader]

India trying to prevent declassification of ‘sensitive’ 1947 Kashmir papers
Government documents fear letters about special status known as Bucher papers could affect foreign relations

India may prevent the declassification of papers from 1947 related to Kashmir as it fears the “sensitive” letters could affect foreign relations, according to internal government documents seen by the Guardian.

The letters, known as the Bucher papers, are believed to include political and military arguments for why India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, called for a ceasefire with Pakistan and provided special status to the state of Jammu and Kashmir.

For decades the region in the foothills of the Himalayas was given a separate constitution, a flag, and autonomy over all matters except for foreign affairs and defence. Those measures were seen by Kashmiris as crucial to protecting their rights in the Muslim-majority state.

But in 2019, under the Hindu nationalist prime minister, Narendra Modi, the government in Delhi formally revoked the disputed state’s constitutional autonomy, in an attempt to integrate it fully into India.

The decision tightened the government’s grip over the region and stoked anger and resentment as a three-decade armed revolt continued to rage.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ent-declassification-sensitive-kashmir-papers