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What rating (out of 10) would you give each member in the Test series (vs West Indies)

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Other mentions: YK 10 catches; Sarfraz 9; Azhar 5

My ratings:
Shehzad: 2 - if he wasn't dropped so many times his scores would've been a lot less. Only good thing is that he showed some resilience
Azhar: 8 - really good series for him, a couple hundreds to his name. Would say he needs to be better in 2nd innings though (1st: 15, 105, 127; 2nd: 1, 10, 3)
Masood: 1 - can't play spin, can't play pace. What he's doing there I don't know. Got out to a part time offie which says enough.
Babar: 4 - expected a lot better from him and he had three 0's in 6 innings. Once he settled down he looked good though but I still feel he lacks a bit of temperament to convert 50s to 100s. Maybe that'll improve with experience.
YK: 3 - really poor series with the bat. Only reason why he got a 3 is because he took 10 catches and some required some sharp reflexes.
Misbah: 8 - great end to an amazing career for Misbah. Thought he batted brilliantly [including the 1(51) :afridi. People who criticise the 1(51) have to remember he ended the mammoth total of 32 to win in the first test with consecutive sixes while others were trying to tuk tuk towards there and we lost 3 wickets]. Still, he deserved at least 1 hundred.
Shafiq: 1 - I like the guy but, he played worse than Amir with the bat. The less said about him this tour the better.
Sarfraz: 5 - he played decent with the bat but what was good is that he batted freely once there was a platform. He only knows one way of batting so to ask for him to save a test match, for example, would be triublesome.
Amir: 7 - looked amazing in the first test, and kept a good line and length throughout. Was handy with the bat in the last test match where him and Yasir built a good lead that pushed WI into playing for a draw. I think he'd be a bit ashamed to only take 13 wickets when he took 7 of them in the first test.
Yasir: 9 - MOTS (other than Chase). His batting in the third test took the game away from WI and his bowling is, well, spectacular.
Shadab: 2 - wasn't really his day(s) for his debut. You could say he potentially lost us the second test by not being tight and economical but that's all ifs and buts. Not ready for tests I believe.
Wahab: 1 - replace with Hasan asap
Hasan: 7 - clean hitter of the ball and could be used a bir like Starc as a pinch hitter at the end of the innings. Bowling-wise it was the opposite of Shadab - he was fantastic. Kept it tight and was unluckly to go wicketless in the first innings but managed to get 3 important wickets in the last innings if the series. Bowled well and used the reverse better than Wahab ever will. His skiddy action makes a trio of him, Amir and Abbas compliment each other really well. Long term prospect I believe.
Abbas: 8 - was surprisingly very good. Didn't expect much from a guy whi bowls 125-130kph, but he always kept it tight. He also likes to mix it up with yorkers and bouncers now and again and isn't as one dimensional as other bowlers. Only worry is that if his pace doesn't go higher (while keeping the swing) better batsmen will play him with ease.

What are your thoughts and ratings?
 
I will post my ratings at some point in the next day or two, I just need to go to Leicester and get my other laptop :mv

It will be worth it though, unless you're browsing this thread on your phones in which case it will explode.
 
1. Shezhad - 4 - should get another go in the UAE
2. Azhar - 7 - He knows his game inside out, though at times i felt he was trying to justify his ODI selection
3. Babar - 4 - Needs that one ton, we have to remember he has only one game in home conditions, should get the next 2 test matches
4. Team - 2 - got his record, thats all he cares for
5. Misbah - 8 - will miss him, never stopped trying this series
6. Asad - 0 - biggest disappointment, 7 years of investment and little growth to show for it
7. Sarfraz - 6 - glovework was great, played some good innings, crucial to our team plan, however he needs to kick on more after starts
8. Amir - 7 seemed burnt out towards the end, but this is the best we have seen him since his comeback, got the ball to move both ways again
9. Yasir - 9 - showed that if you give him a score to bowl against, he will more often than nought win you a game
10. Abbas - 9 - refresing to see a smart bowler
11. Hasan - 9 - great debut, the reverse he got was some of the best from a Pak bowler in recent times

12. Dad's Dream - 1 - gets one mark for the catch, should consider becoming team spokesperson and 12th man specalist
14. Riaz - 0 - shocker
15. Shadab - 3 - came a bit early for him, bowled absolute peaches followed by trash, I said at the time asghar was a better choice, however Shadab will only learn from this expereince, and he showed glimpes of being an actualy batsman, which people forget.
 
1. Shezhad - 4
2. Azhar - 8
3. Babar - 5 -
4. YK - 5
5. Misbah - 7
6. Asad - 3
7. Sarfraz - 6
8. Amir - 6
9. Yasir - 9.5
10. Abbas - 8.5
11. Hasan - 8
 
Shehzad - 4
Azhar - 8
Babar -6
YK-5
Misbah-6
Asad-3
Sarfraz-6
Amir-6
Yasir-9
Abbas-7.5
Hasan-7
 
Wahab played 1 match and got two wickets. He shouldn't score less than 3. Let's not forget the importance and amazingness of that catch
 
Yasir and Azhar were brilliant. Others not much. Misbah had a fairly good series too.
 
Shehzad - 1
Azhar - 9
Babar -1
YK-3
Misbah-5
Asad-1
Sarfraz-3
Amir-5
Yasir-9
Abbas-5
Hasan-5
 
Why are people giving Shehzad 1 or 2 points? Stop hating the fellow he did okayish should deserve atleast 4-5..
 
Yasir 8.5
Amir 7.5
Misbah 8.3
Azhar 7.7
Sarfraz 7
Abbas 7.7

Hall of shame

Shehzad
Masood
Younis
Shafiq
 
Shehzad - 1
Azhar - 9
Babar -1
YK-3
Misbah-5
Asad-1
Sarfraz-3
Amir-5
Yasir-9
Abbas-5
Hasan-5

Azhar was the best bat for us, and made key contributions, but was much
too inconsistent to be rated alongside Yasir, who had a beastly tour by any
standard. Getting out for hardly anything in four innings, at an ave of 60,
against the Windies is not an all conquering performance, and his SR didnt
make those hundreds feel quite as impactful as one would have liked. He's
had far better series. A 7 at best. By which standard Chase would get a 12.
 
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Yasir and Azhar were brilliant. Others not much. Misbah had a fairly good series too.

Curious. While Azhar seems to have nudged up in the rankings, Yasir remains at 13th place even after taking 25 wickets in the series.
 
Shehzad - 0.50 (horrible series - his average should have been in single digit. Made a painstaking 70, in a losing effort with 3/4 lives. But, he gets half a point for that opening partnership of 150+)
Azhar - 8 (Did exceptionally well as opener, once set, but got out to 1st spell 3 times)
Babar - 4 (poor starter - 3 ducks & 2 innings of 55 & 71, a not out as well)
YK- 3 (his main job was with bat, did catch exceptionally though)
Misbah - 8.5 (Could have been MoS, but for the last Test - led team decently. His batting was unspectacular, but effective on these tracks.)
Asad - 0 (Don't think, he made any difference between PAK playing with 10 men or 11 men - instead of him, playing 5 bowlers, probably could have made it 3-0)
Sarfraz - 6 (Kept reasonably decent, took couple of good catches & didn't drop much. Made effective contribution with bat in 1st Test at vital time. 2nd Test as well, but bowlers lost that Test)
Amir - 8 (Bowled exceptionally well through out - kept run in check, bowled long, threatening spells. Gave vital break through in every Test & contributed with bat in the decider. 13 wickets @ <17.50, with an economy of 1.75 is exceptional & most of his wickets were from top order. He was my MoM in 1st Test)
Yasir - 9.75 (There is no limit of perfection, hence I can't give him perfect 10. But, he was threatening for most part of the series & contributed with bat as well. Only blemish I can give is he went at ~3/over in an extremely slow scoring series, which eventually cost PAK the 2nd Test).
Abbas - 7.5 (Won the 3rd Test with exceptional old ball spell, was always threatening with new ball - just a shed below Amir as a bowler, as good % of his wickets are from bottom half)
Hasan - 6 (Good debut, could have been better with that 4th wicket. Kept runs in check & gave a different option to Misbah with old ball, batted well also in limited scope - Amir, Abbas & Hasan makes a great combination for most wickets)
Wahab - 3 (Did bowl well in his only Test & got couple of wickets - he misses out in selection, because of the excellent performance of other 3 pacers, otherwise not the worst series. That catch deserves one point)
Masood - 0 (Ditto Asad, but it won't have made 3-0, because he played only one Test & PAK won that - so Asad beats him for the wooden spoon)
Shadab - 0.5 (Debuted on wrong wicket & to his disadvantage, WI batted first in that Test. Had he bowled 2nd, may be could have ended with far better figures. Bowled with lots of variation, but very little control - still not ready for Test, cost the 2nd Test by licking too many runs at higher rate)
 
Not seen any of the series( bar the odd snippett) so i cant really comment but i would be interested to know if Yasirs Leg spinner was turning sharply away from right handers. If it was then he would be handful to any batsman, and if the wickets were taken because the batsman played for non existent turn, then he will struggle to get good batsman out.
 
10 catches by a non-wicket keeper. ANOTHER record. And they say catches win games. Yup, rate the Man below par but rate others way over for their drops.
 
10 catches by a non-wicket keeper. ANOTHER record. And they say catches win games. Yup, rate the Man below par but rate others way over for their drops.

An average of 20 by your number 4 against an average bowling attack. Please tell me how he deserves more than a 3 when he's selected as a batsman.
 
Shehzad - 0.50 (horrible series - his average should have been in single digit. Made a painstaking 70, in a losing effort with 3/4 lives. But, he gets half a point for that opening partnership of 150+)
Azhar - 8 (Did exceptionally well as opener, once set, but got out to 1st spell 3 times)
Babar - 4 (poor starter - 3 ducks & 2 innings of 55 & 71, a not out as well)
YK- 3 (his main job was with bat, did catch exceptionally though)
Misbah - 8.5 (Could have been MoS, but for the last Test - led team decently. His batting was unspectacular, but effective on these tracks.)
Asad - 0 (Don't think, he made any difference between PAK playing with 10 men or 11 men - instead of him, playing 5 bowlers, probably could have made it 3-0)
Sarfraz - 6 (Kept reasonably decent, took couple of good catches & didn't drop much. Made effective contribution with bat in 1st Test at vital time. 2nd Test as well, but bowlers lost that Test)
Amir - 8 (Bowled exceptionally well through out - kept run in check, bowled long, threatening spells. Gave vital break through in every Test & contributed with bat in the decider. 13 wickets @ <17.50, with an economy of 1.75 is exceptional & most of his wickets were from top order. He was my MoM in 1st Test)
Yasir - 9.75 (There is no limit of perfection, hence I can't give him perfect 10. But, he was threatening for most part of the series & contributed with bat as well. Only blemish I can give is he went at ~3/over in an extremely slow scoring series, which eventually cost PAK the 2nd Test).
Abbas - 7.5 (Won the 3rd Test with exceptional old ball spell, was always threatening with new ball - just a shed below Amir as a bowler, as good % of his wickets are from bottom half)
Hasan - 6 (Good debut, could have been better with that 4th wicket. Kept runs in check & gave a different option to Misbah with old ball, batted well also in limited scope - Amir, Abbas & Hasan makes a great combination for most wickets)
Wahab - 3 (Did bowl well in his only Test & got couple of wickets - he misses out in selection, because of the excellent performance of other 3 pacers, otherwise not the worst series. That catch deserves one point)
Masood - 0 (Ditto Asad, but it won't have made 3-0, because he played only one Test & PAK won that - so Asad beats him for the wooden spoon)
Shadab - 0.5 (Debuted on wrong wicket & to his disadvantage, WI batted first in that Test. Had he bowled 2nd, may be could have ended with far better figures. Bowled with lots of variation, but very little control - still not ready for Test, cost the 2nd Test by licking too many runs at higher rate)

amir 7. and abbas 7.5..i mean amir was not that great except first spell while abbas was penetrative enough...with the rest i agree,,dont forget abbas contribution with the bat ,,,,partnership with sarfaraz..
 
amir 7. and abbas 7.5..i mean amir was not that great except first spell while abbas was penetrative enough...with the rest i agree,,dont forget abbas contribution with the bat ,,,,partnership with sarfaraz..

Amir also contributed with bat - 75 runs at 15, in a low scoring 3 Test series is quite good for a No. 8.

Apart from 1st spell, Amir actually have vital break through on the morning in all 3 Tests. If I can recall correctly, Bishu, Singh, Chase, Hetmayer were taken out by Amir in first 15 minutes of the start of a day.

Besides, 8 or 9 of his 13 wickets are from top 5 (And another one is the WK, batting at 7) - these should be factored in his favor. May be at per with Amir, but don't think Abbas was better performer.
 
Amir also contributed with bat - 75 runs at 15, in a low scoring 3 Test series is quite good for a No. 8.

Apart from 1st spell, Amir actually have vital break through on the morning in all 3 Tests. If I can recall correctly, Bishu, Singh, Chase, Hetmayer were taken out by Amir in first 15 minutes of the start of a day.

Besides, 8 or 9 of his 13 wickets are from top 5 (And another one is the WK, batting at 7) - these should be factored in his favor. May be at per with Amir, but don't think Abbas was better performer.

If Amir kept up his intensity he showed in the first test then he'd be up there with Yasir. Unsure if its fitness or ability that's holding him back.
 
Amir also contributed with bat - 75 runs at 15, in a low scoring 3 Test series is quite good for a No. 8.

Apart from 1st spell, Amir actually have vital break through on the morning in all 3 Tests. If I can recall correctly, Bishu, Singh, Chase, Hetmayer were taken out by Amir in first 15 minutes of the start of a day.

Besides, 8 or 9 of his 13 wickets are from top 5 (And another one is the WK, batting at 7) - these should be factored in his favor. May be at per with Amir, but don't think Abbas was better performer.

off the topic, his last s[ell at last day was very much unimoressive ..he was tired and was thundeling at his best ...more energy was there in hssan ali bowling.....apart from first test i did not realllly enjoyed his bowling...
 
Azhar-7.5
Shehzad-2
Babar-4
Younis-3
Misbah-8
Shafiq-1
Sarfraz-6
Amir-6.5
Abbas-7
Yasir-9

Shadab-1.5
Wahab-2
Hasan-6
Shan-2
 
46% of his wickets came in one innings and he lacked impact when Pakistan needed him most.

He did make an impact in 1st innings of 2nd Test, also he was brilliant throughout the series in terms of economy rate and kept building pressure on WI batsmen from one end which resulted in poor shots on other bowlers who benefited getting easy wickets. Most of his wickets were of top class bowling and of top order.
 
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