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What sort of government setup will be ideal for Pakistan after the General Elections 2024?

What sort of government setup will be ideal for Pakistan after the General Elections 2024?

  • All-out majority for one party

    Votes: 9 69.2%

  • A coalition government will be the best outcome

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Total voters
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FearlessRoar said:
Did PTI only get this political party for the purpose of affiliation? šŸ˜€
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So we can stop the leeching of PTI independents by kidnappings to your party.

Second reason is they have a seat in the NA.

Pretty self explanatory
 
Pakistanā€™s indecisive election outcome and the resulting political uncertainty could complicate the countryā€™s efforts for a new International Monetary Fund (IMF) bailout program, a US-based global rating agency said on Monday.

The Feb. 8 national election in Pakistan presented no clear winner, with independent candidates, backed by former premier Imran Khan, forming the largest group in parliament, according to official results.

The indecisive vote has left the parties of former PM Nawaz Sharif and former foreign minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari, which came in second and third, struggling to form a minority coalition government.

Both Sharif and Khan have claimed victory in polls, leading to uncertainty regarding the formation of the new government in the South Asian country that barely averted a default last year, thanks to a $3 billion IMF program.

ā€œThe close outcome of Pakistanā€™s election and resulting near-term political uncertainty may complicate the countryā€™s efforts to secure a financing agreement with the IMF, to succeed the Stand-By Arrangement (SBA) expiring in March 2024,ā€ Fitch Ratings said in a statement.

ā€œA new deal is key to the countryā€™s credit profile, and we assume one will be achieved within a few months, but an extended negotiation or failure to secure it would increase external liquidity stress and raise the probability of default.ā€

The nuclear-armed nation of more than 241 million has been grappling with a slow growth and record inflation and needs a stable government with the authority to take tough decisions.

On Monday, Pakistanā€™s sovereign dollar bonds fell as much as 1.2 cents, Tradeweb data showed, with the 2024 bond standing at 95.89 cents in the aftermath of the contentious election.

Analysts say negotiating a new IMF program, and at speed, will be critical for the new government.

Fitch Ratings said continued political instability in the country could prolong any discussions with the IMF, delay assistance from other multilateral and bilateral partners, or hamper the implementation of reforms.

ā€œWe believe a government will assume office and engage with the IMF relatively quickly, but risks to political stability are likely to remain high,ā€ it added.

Source: Arab News
 
The potential complications in securing a new IMF bailout program and the associated risks to economic stability underscore the need for a swift and decisive resolution. Let's hope for a timely and effective resolution for the sake of Pakistan's stability and prosperity.
 
One of my favourite Economics bloggers Noah Smith has just done an excellent article on Pakistan

Pakistan needs a plan

Its draws heavily on Atif Mian's recent Twitter Thread on what the Feb 8 elections mean for Pakistan - Atif Mian Thread

The whole thing is too long to paste here but some highlights

Pakistan is a vast country of 231.4 million people. Itā€™s one of only nine countries in the world with nuclear weapons. Itā€™s located in South Asia, which is now one of the worldā€™s most dynamic and fast-growing regions. It has generally favorable relationships with both the United States and China. It has a long coastline in a generally peaceful region of the ocean. It has plenty of talented people, as evidenced by the fact that Pakistani Americans, on average, out-earn almost all other ethnic groups in the U.S.
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What this means is that Pakistan is in ever greater danger of a classic emerging-market currency crisis, in which a countryā€™s currency gets so cheap that the only ways to pay off foreign debt is either by default or by high inflation ā€” either of which hurts the real economy a lot. Already, the Pakistani rupee has lost a lot of its value:
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If Mian is right, and Pakistanā€™s elites have little or no interest in solving the countryā€™s problems, then thatā€™s the whole ball game ā€” Pakistan is doomed, and only a revolution will replace those elites with someone who actually cares enough to take decisive action. But a revolution would be very likely to either break up the country or burden it with an ideological, totalitarian regime, which would also spell doom. So Pakistanā€™s leaders have a very large incentive to prove Mian wrong, and to make a concerted effort to fix their countryā€™s economy.
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Just read the whole thing. Frames the problems really well and tries to suggest some solutions.
 
Amid a hung parliament following the Feb. 8 elections, China on Monday called for maintaining political unity and social stability in the South Asian nation, state media reported.

ā€œAs a close and friendly neighbour, China fully respects the choice made by the Pakistani people,ā€ said Mao Ning, spokeswoman for the Foreign Ministry.

Beijing ā€œsincerely hopes that all relevant parties in Pakistan will work together to maintain political unity and social stability after the elections and jointly create a future for national development,ā€ said Mao.

No single political party was able to gain the required numbers to form a federal government on its own after elections were held in Pakistan on Feb. 8.

Most of the seats in the 264-seat National Assembly, were won by independent candidates linked to incarcerated, former Prime Minister Imran Khan, the founder of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party which is barred from participating in the polls.

The Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif won 75, followed by the Pakistan Peoples Party of Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari which won 54.

The smaller Muttahida Qaumi Movement - Pakistan (MQM-P) party won 17 seats.

MQM-P and the parties of Sharif and Zardari are in talks to form a coalition government, while Khanā€™s PTI has announced to form an alliance with the Sunni Ittehad Council to gain the reserved seats in the parliament where its 95 candidates won as independents.

PTI has alleged mass rigging to ā€œstealā€ public mandate as the partyā€™s data claims that its candidates won at least 177 seats through direct elections.

Both the election commission and the government have denied any wrongdoing.

A party requires 134 seats, without adding reserved seats, to form the government on its own at the federal level in the nation.

Source: Express Tribune
 
Like America, China is also getting into the habit of dictating to us.
 
ā€œAs a close and friendly neighbour, China fully respects the choice made by the Pakistani people,ā€ said Mao Ning, spokeswoman for the Foreign Ministry.
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I don't see much dictating there to be honest.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You would think that if they think the PTI is so bad, they would happily back one of the other two more established parties.
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I back PTI. I was commenting on Fearless, who supports PMLN going by his posts.
 
A good time for PPP to dictate their terms now.
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Bilawal foresees stalemate in formation of new govt
PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari has said that he foresees a stalemate in government formation ā€œif someone is not ready to change their stanceā€.

Speaking to reporters at the Supreme Court today, the former foreign minister said the PPP and him are adamant on their stance, highlighting that it will not be changed at any cost.

ā€œIf someone else wants to change their stance, there can be progress. If they are not ready to change it, I foresee a stalemate,ā€ Bilawal said, adding that this would not benefit democracy or the parliamentary system.

ā€œIf I want to give the PML-N a vote, I will have to give it on my terms and not theirs,ā€ he said.

ā€œThe delay [in forming the government] is because of non-serious,ā€ he said, adding that this harmed Pakistanā€™s democracy. ā€œThe faster this is resolved, it will be better for stability and the incoming government.ā€

Source: Dawn News
 
Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) has shortlisted three names for the coveted office of Punjab governor, ARY News reported on Wednesday citing sources.

Sources say that Nadeem Afzal Chan, Makhdoom Ahmed and Qamar Zaman Kaira the frontrunners for the coveted role.

The PPP will get the office of Punjab governor as per the power-sharing formula with the PML-N.

As per the power-sharing pact, Shehbaz Sharif will be the joint candidate for the slot of prime minister whereas Asif Ali Zardari will be the joint candidate for position of president of Pakistan.

The senate chairman, NA deputy speaker, Punjab and KP governors will be from the PPP, whereas NA speaker, Sindh and Balochistan governors will be from PML-N.

PPP chairman Bilawal Bhutto will chair a meeting today to finalise the names for the coveted offices.

Nasir Hussain Shah today said that Sindhā€™s governor will be from the PML-N and Punjab would have a PPP governor.

Talking to ARY News PPP leader talking on the power-sharing deal between the parties, said it is upto the PML-N to keep Sindhā€™s governorā€™s office with it, give it to the PPP, or hand it over to another ally.

He said that the PML-N will keep the Speaker National Assemblyā€™s office while deputy speaker and Chairman Senate offices have been shared with the Peopleā€™s Party. The decision about the office of deputy chairman senate yet to be taken, former Sindh minister said.

The PPP has held the post of the Punjabā€™s governor in the past, he said.

Talking on formation of government in Sindh, Nasir Shah said that the name of Faryal Talpur has also surfaced for Sindhā€™s chief minister.

On a question he said that the MQM should be taken along in Sindh. ā€œIt will be better to take along all allies,ā€ he added.

Source: ARY

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PPP shortlists three names for Punjab governor slot

LAHORE: Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) has shortlisted three names for the coveted office of Punjab governor, ARY News reported on Wednesday citing sources.
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In a flurry of political meetings, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) continued its efforts towards government formation by striking agreements with various coalition partners on Wednesday, following a recent power-sharing accord with the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).

According to Express News, PML-N representatives engaged with delegations from the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P), Balochistan Awami Party (BAP), and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI), solidifying their alliances and outlining plans for governance.

It was disclosed that the PML-N and MQM-P have reached a consensus to collaborate within the government framework. Senior figures from both parties, including Kamran Tessori, Mustafa Kamal, and Dr Farooq Sattar from MQM-P, and Ishaq Dar, Ayaz Sadiq, Azam Nazir Tarar, and Muhammad Ahmed Khan from PML-N, convened in Islamabad for talks.

The agreement underscores a commitment to foster reconciliation and mutual cooperation, with a focus on enhancing political, democratic, and economic stability across the nation.

Central to their discussions was the imperative of ensuring equitable distribution of resources and powers, laying the groundwork for future deliberations on critical issues such as the protection of urban rights in Sindh, particularly in Karachi, and the restoration of the port city's economic prominence.

Simultaneously, a meeting between coordination committees of PML-N and BAP convened, affirming their dedication to addressing the challenges confronting Balochistan and the federation.

Representatives from both parties, including Ishaq Dar, Sardar Ayaz Sadiq, Azam Nazir Tarar, and Malik Muhammad Ahmad Khan from PML-N, alongside Nawabzada Khalid Hussain Magsi, Muhammad Sadiq Sanjrani, and Kauda Babar from BAP, reiterated their commitment to establishing robust democratic governments at federal and provincial levels.

Moreover, delegates from PML-N and JUI congregated in the federal capital, acknowledging the pressing issues faced by Balochistan province and emphasising the urgency of a strong democratic governance structure therein.

In a joint declaration, they underscored the necessity of collaborative efforts towards the prosperity of Balochistan, affirming their mutual cooperation towards this shared goal.

Express Tribune

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After PPP, PML-N woos other coalition partners for govt formation | The Express Tribune

Delegations from MQM-P, BAP, JUI meet PML-N representatives in Islamabad
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Rs 70 billion spent on elections, and now the partnership started where are the claims of upto 300 units electricity time to walk the talk
 
Donā€™t know what type government will gonna formed in Pakistan, but whoever may be PM, he has to do mammoth task to do, Mount Everest to be climbed.

He has to pull the country from economic crisis, debt ridden state. How he will do it?
Will he continue the regime of same old hate India policy? or will he adopt totally new policies .

Pakistan need dynamic leadership like Narendra Modijiā€¦ next PM must show more business quality and less political characteristics. First of all he has to focus on improving relations with neighbours, from last few years, Pakistan Chambers of commerce shouting to increase trade with India, but no Pak governments listened them.

If future PM continues with same India hate policy to hold is power, then God saves Pakistan
 
Kianig89 said:
Rs 70 billion spent on elections, and now the partnership started where are the claims of upto 300 units electricity time to walk the talk
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It was only a talk and I am sure you know that there is gonna be no walk. Pakistan is a country that borrowed millions and billions of dollars from IMF etc and they have to listen to what these organizations want in Pakistan. 300 units? dream that will never become a reality.
 
PTI will sit with everyone if ā€˜stolen seatsā€™ returned: Imranā€™s sister Aleema

Aleema Khan, the sister of former premier Imran Khan, has said the PTI would have talked to other political parties if its ā€œstolen seatsā€ were returned back to it.

Speaking to the media outside the Adiala district jail, she said she was denied a meeting with her brother, who is currently incarcerated there. Aleema criticised the judicial system, claiming that hearings were not being held properly.

On the matter of not holding a dialogue with the PPP, she said, ā€œCould Imran make a government with the PPP? Can you imagine that those that the public wants to get rid ofā€¦ The matter is that when the PPP offered to meet, we asked them to return our stolen seats.

ā€œTell them that if they return all our seats, we will sit with everyone,ā€ Aleema said, alleging that the PML-N, PPP and MQM-P had won multiple NA seats wrongfully.

Dawn
 
Marwat warns of strong opposition if PTIā€™s ā€˜stolen seatsā€™ not returned

PTI leader Sher Afzal Marwat has warned that his party would emerge as a strong opposition if their ā€œstolen seatsā€ were not returned.

ā€œThe PML-N and PPP have announced that they have distributed positions but we want to tell the nation that they if sit in the government with our mandate and if we are forcefully made to sit in the opposition, then they wonā€™t be able to run the country in peace,ā€ he said.

Addressing PML-Nā€™s candidate for premier Shehbaz Sharif, Marwat said the former would find himself in a ā€œqueue of lionsā€.

ā€œAnd if you impose a certified thief like Zardari on the respectful position of the president, then it will be an insult to Pakistan,ā€ he said, adding that Imran had instructed the nation to stand firm in the fight for justice.

Dawn
 
Coward statement. I think it was better to join coalition government instead of sitting in opposition being one of largest party.
 
globetrotter said:
Donā€™t know what type government will gonna formed in Pakistan, but whoever may be PM, he has to do mammoth task to do, Mount Everest to be climbed.

He has to pull the country from economic crisis, debt ridden state. How he will do it?
Will he continue the regime of same old hate India policy? or will he adopt totally new policies .

Pakistan need dynamic leadership like Narendra Modijiā€¦ next PM must show more business quality and less political characteristics. First of all he has to focus on improving relations with neighbours, from last few years, Pakistan Chambers of commerce shouting to increase trade with India, but no Pak governments listened them.

If future PM continues with same India hate policy to hold is power, then God saves Pakistan
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The hate policy comes directly from India, and is directly linked to Modi. You can't expect to be taken seriously if you are going to shamelessly push propaganda. Just look at your cutting of sports and entertainment ties with Pakistan, that has all been led by India, not Pakistan. There is no other motivation for it but clear and malignant hatred.
 
PDM 2.0 is your fate now poor Pakistan
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PTIā€™s Shandana Gulzar terms coalition govt ā€˜illicitā€™ and ā€˜illegalā€™

PTI leader Shandana Gulzar, who won the February 8 general elections, from Peshawar, has termed the coalition government ā€œillicitā€ and ā€œillegalā€.

In a post on X, she said the ā€œit [the government] will fall on its own feetā€.

ā€œI got a whopping majority in the elections simply because people are sick and tired of dealing with sycophants, with corrupt dynasties and they wanted change,ā€ Gulzar added.

Source: Dawn News
 
Maulana Fazlur Rehman, chief of the Jamiat Ulema Islam-Fazl (JUI-F), issued a stark warning following the announcement of a coalition government between the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), asserting that both parties would blackmail each other while being manipulated by "hidden forces" behind the scenes.

Speaking at a meeting regarding his party's protest against alleged rigging in the recent general elections, Fazl lamented the erosion of democratic principles.

"After the 2018 election, we hoped for fairness and transparency in 2024, but once again our aspirations and constitutional supremacy have been undermined,ā€ he maintained.

Rehman raised concerns about the legitimacy of the Parliament if elections continue to be disputed. He criticised direct interference by the military establishment in the ā€œselectionā€ of representatives, warning that such actions would compromise the democratic process.

"In this election, our establishment has shattered corruption records spanning 75 years," he declared, emphasising the importance of upholding democratic values. "We are the torchbearers of democracy, and it is our responsibility to protect the Constitution," he added.

The JUI-F leader took aim at the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), accusing them of hypocrisy for alleging rigging after benefiting from it in 2018. "When you were forming a government in 2018, there was no talk of rigging. But now, when you find yourselves on the opposite end, suddenly you see rigging," Fazl remarked.

Regarding his party's role in Parliament, the JUI-F chief asserted that their true strength lay in street protests rather than legislative chambers. He also criticised the growing influence of the military in political affairs.

Earlier in the day, JUI-F had announced that it would commence a movement against alleged rigging during the February 8 general elections. Party leader Aslam Ghauri, in a statement, said that in the initial phase of the movement, meetings at different party levels will be held.

"The rigging in these elections has put 2018's rigging to shame," said the JUI-F leader and added that a "mockery has been made of the public mandate."

Express Tribune

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ā€˜PML-N, PPP to be manipulated by hidden forces in coalition govtā€™ | The Express Tribune

JUI-F chief says both coalition partners would ā€˜blackmailā€™ each other on daily basis
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FearlessRoar said:
Coward statement. I think it was better to join coalition government instead of sitting in opposition being one of largest party.
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if common sense existed in Imran's dictionary that is......
 
A majority PTI govt is needed to bring in crucial reforms. All else is nonsense and topi drama.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The hate policy comes directly from India, and is directly linked to Modi. You can't expect to be taken seriously if you are going to shamelessly push propaganda. Just look at your cutting of sports and entertainment ties with Pakistan, that has all been led by India, not Pakistan. There is no other motivation for it but clear and malignant hatred.
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Itā€™s a blame gameā€¦ whatā€™s the root cause of problem? Its a Kashmir issueā€¦after abrogation of article 370, Kashmir is already started heading towards developmentā€¦ now New trains is running to Kashmir, it will create more jobs and economy in Kashmirā€¦

What Abdula and Mufti dynasties done for Kashmir? Nothing ā€¦ instead of development, they made monies on selling Indian products at higher rate.
Itā€™s a shame for Abdulla, Mufti and congress dynasties for keeping Kashmir backward for 70 yearsā€¦.

Pak new government has to forget Kashmir issue asap in order to improve relations with Indiaā€¦.otherwise effects would be devastating
 
globetrotter said:
Itā€™s a blame gameā€¦ whatā€™s the root cause of problem? Its a Kashmir issueā€¦after abrogation of article 370, Kashmir is already started heading towards developmentā€¦ now New trains is running to Kashmir, it will create more jobs and economy in Kashmirā€¦

What Abdula and Mufti dynasties done for Kashmir? Nothing ā€¦ instead of development, they made monies on selling Indian products at higher rate.
Itā€™s a shame for Abdulla, Mufti and congress dynasties for keeping Kashmir backward for 70 yearsā€¦.

Pak new government has to forget Kashmir issue asap in order to improve relations with Indiaā€¦.otherwise effects would be devastating
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If we are talking a hate game, hindutva was there before partition, and in fact could be argued was the reason for partition, as Jinnah's argument was that the desire for hindu payback for hundreds of years living under Muslim rule would put them in danger. A core tenent of hindutva is that Muslims in India must basically become hindu culturally and it will be interesting to see how this develops over the coming decades with hindutva politics firmly entrenched in the country.
 
Shaukat Basra with an explosive presser, directectly attacked QFE what next
 
The Supreme Court (SC) Friday dismissed a plea seeking enforcement of the Islamic presidential form of government system in Pakistan.

The orders were passed by CJP Justice Qazi Faez Isa on a plea filed for enforcement of the Islamic presidential system in the country.

At the outset of the hearing, the CJP in his remarks said we also want the Islamic system. ā€œThere is a parliamentary form of govt system in Pakistan, the colour of the constitutionā€™s book is also green, you must read it,ā€ the top judge asked the pleader.

CJP Justice Qazi Faez Isa remarked that the constitution begins with the name of Allah, while the Holy Quran is also mentioned in it.

According to Article 227, no law could be contrary to the Quran and Sunnah.

The CJP asked the plaintiff why do you want a presidential system in Pakistan. Do you want to give all the powers to an individual alone?

At this juncture, the petitioner sought time from the SC to read the constitution, but the CJP dismissed the plea by saying ā€œTake your time, read it and if you like, you can file a fresh plea in the future.ā€

ARY

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SC dismisses plea seeking Islamic presidential system in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court (SC) Friday dismissed a plea seeking enforcement of the Islamic presidential form of government system in Pakistan. The
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Pakistan already follows a parliamentary system. And I think the public of Pakistan is happy with it.
 
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PML-N, MQM-P agree to work together in national interest

An MQM-P delegation met PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif and agreed to work with the party in the interest of the country.

According to a statement, the parties noted that the current times called for all the political parties to work together and keep their political interests aside.

During the meeting, Shehbaz appreciated the MQM-Pā€™s role in saving Pakistan from a default and the no-confidence movement. He also said that the PML-N respected the mandate of all political parties.

Source: Dawn News
 
Opposition parties in Sindh announced to hold a joint protest outside the provincial assembly during the inaugural session against what they called ā€˜historical riggingā€™ in the General Elections 2024, ARY News reported.

The leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA), Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fzal (JUI-F) announced to protest in a joint press conference.

PTI Sindh President Haleem Adil Sheikh said that the elections were ā€˜riggedā€™ in different ways in Karachi, Hyderabad, Larkana, and Sukkur.

ā€œThere will be no talks with the Pakistan Peopleā€™s Party and Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan as both the parties are beneficiaries of the rigging,ā€ Haleem Adil Sheikh added.

JI Karachi Ameer Hafiz Naeemur Rehman said that newly elected members of his party as well as the PTI would not take oath in the inaugural session as a protest.

He said that the PPP and MQM-P were awarded a ā€˜fakeā€™ mandate of the province. ā€œWe will be expanding our protest,ā€ Hafiz Naeemur Rehman said.

JUI-F leader Rashid Soomro said that they would be holding a protest headed by the GDA leadership. ā€œIf the opposition parties are denied to hold peaceful protest, we will not be responsible for any mishap,ā€ Rashid Soomro.

GDAā€™s Safdar Abbasi termed the General Elections 2024 as the ā€˜most rigged pollsā€™ in the countryā€™s history. He said that opposition parties would never accept the ā€˜riggedā€™ results.

Safdar Abbasi also questioned the role of caretaker setup in Sindh, alleging interim Chief Minster Justice (retd) Maqbool Baqar to ā€˜supportā€™ the PPP.

It is pertinent to mention here that the GDA also held a protest demonstration at Hyderabad Bypass against ā€˜riggingā€™ in the elections in which other opposition parties also participated.

Addressing the protest, GDA Chief Pir Sibghatullah Shah Rashdi, popularly known as Pir Pagara, said that the General Elections 2024 were ā€˜soldā€™ three months back.

He said that he did not hold an election campaign as the elections were already ā€˜soldā€™.

Pir Pagara said that the PTI was ā€˜expelledā€™ from the electoral process based on Intra-party elections. ā€œI donā€™t consider Imran Khan a thief. If he is a thief, we all are thieves too,ā€ the GDA chief said.

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JI, PTI-backed members not to take oath: Hafiz Naeem

KARACHI: Opposition parties in Sindh announced to hold a joint protest outside the provincial assembly during the inaugural session against what they
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Everybody knows they are the puppets of establishment​

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BAP to support PML-N at Centre and Balochistan​

The Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) has declared its backing for the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) both at the federal level and in the province of Balochistan.

Speaking to media representatives on Friday, BAP spokesperson Senator Kauda Babar disclosed that a delegation from the party had convened with the prime minister-designate Shehbaz Sharif in Lahore.

The delegation, headed by BAP president Nawabzada Khalid Magsi, included prominent figures such as Chairman Senate Sadiq Sanjrani, among others.

Babar stated that the meeting primarily focused on government formation and pertinent issues, culminating in BAP's decision to throw its weight behind PML-N at both the national and provincial levels.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
FearlessRoar said:
And does PTI think JI is less corrupt than other parties?
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JUI-F and JI are different parties, and from what I've heard, JI has a good reputation in Karachi, where they are more popular than the likes of PPP and MQM. Now on to the main point, protesting alongside other parties is not the same as forming a political alliance where you do power sharing. If PTI protested alongside either PML-N or PPP, that would be fine too, as long as they don't ally with them politically.

Right now PTI is mostly engaging with JI because both PTI and JI account for almost all of the votes in Karachi, except for 1-2 NAs. Since both PTI and JI were robbed in Karachi, it makes sense that they are both asking for their mandate back alongside each other.

Ask PDM about political consciousness.
 
Malik Muhammad Ahmed Khan has been elected as the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly.

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PML-N leader Ishaq Dar has said that the President has to summon the National Assembly session upto February 29 at any cost, ARY News reported on Sunday.

Former finance minister talking to media said that it is mandatory to convene the NA session within 21 days of the election.

ā€œWe were thinking that the first session of the National Assembly will be held on Feb 27,ā€ he said. ā€œThe Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs has forwarded summary for the session on February 17, but the President has yet to sign it,ā€ Ishaq Dar said.

ā€œIf President Arif Alvi didnā€™t sign the summary, the NA session will mandatorily be held on Feb 29,ā€ Dar said.

On a question of a reporter that if Governor Khyber Pakhtunkhwa didnā€™t convene the provincial assemblyā€™s session, Pakistan Muslim League-Nawazā€™s leader replied that same will happen if the President or Governor fail to summon the assembly session.

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President requires to summon NA session by Feb 29: Ishaq Dar

ISLAMABAD: PML-N leader Ishaq Dar has said that the President has to summon the National Assembly session upto February 29 at any cost, ARY News reported
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Arif Alvi will wait for instructions from Imran Khan before taking any action.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Arif Alvi will wait for instructions from Imran Khan before taking any action.
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PPPā€™s Shazia Marri says President Alvi ā€˜misusing authorityā€™ by delaying summoning of new NA

PPP Leader Shazia Marri has said that President Dr Arif Alvi is ā€œmisusing authorityā€ by not delaying summoning of the new National Assembly.

ā€œIt is necessary for the president to call a session of the National Assembly without delay on the summary of the prime minister,ā€ she said in a statement, adding that the president should follow the Constitution rather than the ā€œorders of one personā€.

She said that Alvi is the same president who tried to ā€œunconstitutionallyā€ dissolve the Assembly in the past as well. She said that Alviā€™s violation of the Constitution and misuse of office will remain a part of history.

ā€œThe National Assembly elections have been completed, the president is bound to convene a session,ā€ she said

Dawn
 
Javed Latif today in an interview admitting they stole the elections. Wonder if Nani will question his mental balance?
 
Won't be long when Ex Nawaz Clan turn up against Maryam and Showbaz , Khaqan Abassi, Ch Nisar Javed Hashmi, Miftah Ismail, Zubair Umer, Mehtab Abassi already lining up.
Let's see what happens with Rana Sanaullah already out of parliamentary politics
 
Kianig89 said:
Won't be long when Ex Nawaz Clan turn up against Maryam and Showbaz , Khaqan Abassi, Ch Nisar Javed Hashmi, Miftah Ismail, Zubair Umer, Mehtab Abassi already lining up.
Let's see what happens with Rana Sanaullah already out of parliamentary politics
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Javed Latid today openly in an interview said Shehbaz was given a stolen election
 
Whoever they name would just be an extension of their dynastic politics
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PPP, PML-N yet to name Balochistan CM

The leadership of future coalition partners in Balochistan, the PPP and PML-N could not finalise the names of their candidates for the top slots of the leader of the house, speaker, and deputy speaker, with three days remaining for the first session of the Balochistan Assembly, which has been summoned on Wednesday.

The chief minister will be a nominee from PPP, the office of the speaker will be from PML-N, and the deputy speaker will come from PPP. The slot of the new governor will go to PML-N.

Sources said that the PPP central leadership is considering three to four names for the chief minister position, including former chief minister Nawab Sanaullah Zehri, former caretaker interior minister Sarfraz Ahmed Bugti, former Balochistan finance minister Mir Zahoor Ahmed Buledi, and veteran party leader Mir Sadiq Umrani, who joined in 1972 and has remained with PPP until now.

PML-N Balochistan president, Sheikh Jaffar Khan Mandokhail, is leading the race for appointment as the next governor of Balochistan.

Source : Dawn News
 
The newly elected MPAs of the Balochistan Assembly took their oaths of membership on Wednesday, ARY News reported.

The Balochistan Assembly session was chaired by the presiding officer Engineer Zamrud Khan. The new members of the assembly took oath as MPAs of the provincial house.

The 51 members, elected on general seats, who took oath today include members of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) lawmakers who have emerged as the largest parties in the 65-member House.

The assembly includes 11 reserved seats for women and three for minorities while the PPP has 11 seats and PML-N has 10 seats.

Meanwhile, the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) and Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) have 10 and five seats, respectively.

Earlier it emerged that Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) has formed a committee on power-sharing with the Pakistan Peopleā€™s Party (PPP) in Balochistan.

According to sources, the PML-N committee for talks with PPP on the formation of government in Balochistan, includes Jam Kamal Khan, Nawab Jangez Mari, Mir Saleem Khosa, Mir Asim Khird, Sheikh Jaffer Mandokhel and Jamal Shah Kakar.

Sources said that the committee would meet the party leadership and then proceed with talks with PPP.

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Newly elected Balochistan Assembly's lawmakers take oath

QUETTA: The newly elected MPAs of the Balochistan Assembly took their oaths of membership on Wednesday, ARY News reported. The Balochistan Assembly
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PTI leader Omer Ayub has claimed that the ā€œPDM 2.0ā€ was incapable of taking reforms needed to fix Pakistanā€™s economy.

ā€œIt is important to understand why we go to the IMF, for balance of payments support and reform agenda [ā€¦] but only a strong and fair government can reform Pakistan, not a corrupt [government] or PDM 2.0.

ā€œThe PPP and PML-N cannot do any reform process,ā€ he added

Dawn
 
He is the grandson of General Ayub Khan, and he is the main root cause of the fall of Dhaka.
 

He is day dreaming​

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PML-Nā€™s Ayaz Sadiq says opposition, govt part of ā€˜same systemā€™​

Speaking to reporters ahead of the National Assembly session, PML-N leader Ayaz Sadiq was asked whether the House will be able to function with a big opposition. He stated that the opposition and the government work together, that they were ā€œwheels of the same carā€.

Sadiq also added that there was a need for ā€œnational reconciliationā€ and hoped that the opposition will engage in a ā€œpositive debateā€.

Source: Dawn News
 
Nomination papers for slots of NA speaker, deputy accepted

The nomination papers for the slots of National Assembly speaker and deputy speaker have been accepted, the NA Secretariat says.

PML-Nā€™s Ayaz Sadiq and PTIā€™s Amir Dogar will compete for positions in the election which will be held tomorrow.

Meanwhile, PPPā€™s Ghulam Mustafa Shah and PTI-backed Junaib Akbar will be competing for the slot of deputy speaker.

Dawn
 
The election for the coveted slot of prime minister will be held on Sunday (March 3), according to the National Assembly Secretariat.

As per the schedule issued by the NA, candidates can submit their nomination papers till Saturday, 2pm. The scrutiny of the papers will be completed the same day.

It added that the procedure for the election of the premier had been provided to the MNAs.

It must be noted that the PML-N has nominated Shehbaz Sharif for the slot of the prime minister while Omer Ayub Khan is the PTIā€™s pick

Dawn
 
FearlessRoar said:
Nomination papers for slots of NA speaker, deputy accepted

The nomination papers for the slots of National Assembly speaker and deputy speaker have been accepted, the NA Secretariat says.

PML-Nā€™s Ayaz Sadiq and PTIā€™s Amir Dogar will compete for positions in the election which will be held tomorrow.

Meanwhile, PPPā€™s Ghulam Mustafa Shah and PTI-backed Junaib Akbar will be competing for the slot of deputy speaker.

Dawn
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Sardar Ayaz Sadiq elected NA speaker

PML-Nā€™s Sardar Ayaz Sadiq has been elected the new National Assembly speaker after securing 199 votes out of a total of 291 votes cast.

After the counting of votes was complete, outgoing speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf said that a total of 291 votes were cast, out of which one was ā€œinvalidā€ and the rest declared ā€œvalidā€.

He then announced that Sadiq received 199 votes while his rival PTI-backed Amir Dogar got 91 votes.

Dawn
 
That was expected. In the previous PML-N government, he was also the NA speaker.
 
FearlessRoar said:
PTI vs PML-N again.
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After being elected as the National Assembly speaker, PML-Nā€™s Sardar Ayaz Sadiq greeted his rival for the role, PTI-backed Malik Amir Dogar.

He also shook hands with the other MNAs from the opposition, including Latif Khosa. Outgoing speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf termed Sadiqā€™s gesture a ā€œvery good traditionā€ and a ā€œdemocratic attitudeā€.

Dawn
 
FearlessRoar said:
After being elected as the National Assembly speaker, PML-Nā€™s Sardar Ayaz Sadiq greeted his rival for the role, PTI-backed Malik Amir Dogar.

He also shook hands with the other MNAs from the opposition, including Latif Khosa. Outgoing speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf termed Sadiqā€™s gesture a ā€œvery good traditionā€ and a ā€œdemocratic attitudeā€.

Dawn
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PTI-backed Amir Dogar, who lost the vote for speaker of the National Assembly to PML-Nā€™s Ayaz Sadiq, said he would have received 225 votes today had Form 45 been used to compile results in general elections on Feb 8.

ā€œForm 47 stole our mandate, and 80 NA seats of ours were stolen,ā€ he said. ā€œHad they not been stolen, PTI wouldā€™ve been the single largest party in this assembly.ā€

He praised PTI workers for contesting elections on various symbols allotted to them after the party was deprived of its iconic bat symbol by the Supreme Court.

Dawn
 
PTI leader Amir Dogar has said his party was ready for reconciliation if its ā€œstolenā€ mandate was returned.

Addressing the National Assembly, he urged newly elected Speaker Ayaz Sadiq to play a role in returning the PTI its mandate.

ā€œYou played a role in 2013. We are ready to cooperate but first give our stolen mandate back to us and also our reserved seats,ā€ Dogar said.

Dawn
 
I want all political parties to now sit together, solve their issues, and focus on the economic crisis and the new wave of terrorism.
 
PPPā€™s Syed Ghulam Mustafa Shah has been elected as the deputy speaker of the National Assembly with 197 votes.

Shahā€™s opponent Junaid Akbar, from the PTI, secured 92 votes.

After the election, Speaker Ayaz Sadiq administered oath to Shah.

Dawn
 
The MQM-P and PML-N have reached an agreement on the ā€œspirit, objective and need of a constitutional amendment for the establishment of autonomous and empowered local governmentsā€.

Signed at the Parliament House, a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) took in MQM-Pā€™s request of galvanising local bodies and ensuring the National Finance Commission (NFC) Award reached ā€œall districtsā€.

In the MoU, it was stated that the ā€œPML-N and MQM-P will jointly work to forge a national consensus within the parliament for the passage of the billā€.

Under the agreement, the MQM-P will ā€œsit on the government benches instead of oppositionā€, in addition to supporting the PML-N ā€œin the election of prime minister and speakerā€.
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FearlessRoar said:
PTI should have nominated someone other than Omar Ayub Khan.
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Chaos erupts in NA session as Omar Ayub raises objections

Commotion ensued in todayā€™s National Assembly session as PTIā€™s Omar Ayub raised objections and speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf attempted to carry on with the proceedings.

ā€œYou have the right to object but donā€™t hinder the session. Let me complete the agenda,ā€ Ashraf said.

ā€œIf you donā€™t have a speaker you cant have elections, can you?ā€ he asked.

Chants of ā€œchorrā€ [thief] and ā€œna-manzoorā€ [unacceptable] were heard as the speaker of the House attempted to proceed with the sessionā€™s agenda of electing a new speaker.

Dawn
 
A house of cards can't stand tall for long.
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Bilawal hopes MQM-P secures ā€˜undecidedā€™ posts in coalition govt

Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari has conveyed optimism about the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P) securing key positions in the coalition government, where agreements between PPP and PML-N could not be reached.

Speaking to reporters outside the Parliament House in Islamabad on Friday, Bilawal addressed questions regarding the ongoing discussions about the power-sharing formula for the coalition government at the Centre. He acknowledged that certain positions remained undecided between PPP and PML-N, and expressed his hope that MQM-P would be considered for these roles.

"We have not reached a decision on certain positions with PML-N, and for those positions, I hope that MQM-P will get a chance," stated Bilawal.

Responding to queries about objections raised against Sindh Governor Kamran Tessori, Bilawal emphasised that the PPP has no specific issues related to any individual. This stance aligns with the party's commitment to focusing on policy matters and broader political cooperation rather than personal disputes.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
An unfair decision
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After the allotment of the reserved seats that were denied to the Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC), the PML-N has emerged as the largest party in the National Assembly, with the party and its allies securing a two-third majority in the lower house of parliament.

The SIC, a small party with an insignificant presence, became a refuge for the PTI-backed independent lawmakers, who joined it for the sake of the reserved seats.

However, its request for the allotment of the reserved seats was turned down by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) because it had not submitted a ā€œpriority listā€ for them prior to the polls.

The PML-N-led coalition government in the Centre now has 229 members in the NA with the PPP, MQM-P, PML-Q, Istehkam-e-Pakistan Party (IPP), Pakistan Muslim League-Zia (PML-Z) and Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) as part of the alliance.

With a total of 334 seats in the NA, the PML-N has become the largest party in the House by bagging 123 of them after the allotment of the reserved seats.

The PPP now has 73 members in the NA after being allotted 16 and three reserved seats for women and minorities respectively in addition to the 54 general ones it had won.

The PPP Is followed by the MQM-P, which has 22 members in the NA, after being allotted four reserved seats for women and one for minorities. The PML-Q has five seats in the NA including one reserved for women allocated to it. The IPP has four MNAs after the allotment of one reserved seat for women. Both the PML-Z and BAP have one seat each in the lower house.

The SIC hold the second place in terms of NA seats with 82. The JUI-F has 11 MNAs after being allocated four reserved seats for women and one for minorities. Four parties each have one seat in the NA: Majlis Wahdat-e-Muslimeen (MWM), BNP-M, PkMAP, and ANP.

There are eight independent MNAs, who have not joined any party yet. Similarly, in the Punjab Assembly following the allotment of reserved seats, the PML-N has 224 MPAs in the provincial legislature out of a total of 336.

In the Punjab Assembly, PML-N won 139 general seats and 21 independent members later joined the party. The party was allotted 57 and seven reserved seats for women and minorities, respectively.

The SIC has 106 members in the provincial legislature.

The PPPā€™s members in the Punjab Assembly have increased to 16 after one independent member joined it and it was allotted four reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The number of PML-Q members in the Punjab Assembly has increased to 11 after it was allotted three reserved seats for women.

The IPP has six members in the Punjab Assembly as three independent MPAs joined it and the party was allotted two reserved seats for women.

The Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan, PML-Z and MWM each have one seat in the provincial legislature.

The election was not held in one constituency of the Punjab Assembly and the notifications for four of them have been withheld by the ECP.

In the Sindh Assembly, the PPP now has 116 MPAs in the 168-member legislature after the allotment of the reserved seats.

Apart from its 88 members, 21 reserved seats for women and seven for minorities were allotted to it.

The MQM-P now has 37 members in the provincial legislature after being allotted seven reserved seats for women and two for minorities.

The Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) has three members in the Sindh Assembly after it was allotted one reserved seat for women. The Jamaat-e-Islami has one seat in the provincial assembly. The Sindh Assembly has nine independent members. Notifications have not been issued for two seats of the Sindh Assembly as one victorious candidate passed away while the other has yet to submit the details of their election expenses to the ECP.

In the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Assembly, the SIC has 89 seats in the 145-member legislature. The number of the JUI-F MPAs has reached 18 after it was allotted 10 reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The PML-N has 16 MPAs in K-P after it was allotted eight reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The PPP has managed to take its tally in the provincial assembly to 11 following the allotment of six reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The ANP, which was once the ruling party in K-P, has bagged two seats in the provincial assembly after it was allotted a reserved one for women.

Similarly, the PTI-Parliamentarians is also in a similar position in the K-P Assembly with two MPAs in the House after being allotted one reserved seat for women.

Elections were not held for two seats in the K-P Assembly while the ECP withheld the results of four provincial constituencies.

A minority seat quota will also be given after the completion of K-P Assembly results.

In the 65-member Balochistan Assembly, the PPP is leading with 17 MPAs after being allotted three reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

Following closely is the PML-N, which has 16 MPAs in the provincial assembly after it was allotted three reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The number of JUI-F MPAs in the Balochistan Assembly has reached 12 after it was allotted two reserved seats for women and one for minorities.

The BAP has five MPAs in the provincial assembly after the allocation of one reserved seat for women.

The National Party has four members in the Balochistan Assembly following the allotment of one reserved seat for women. The ANP has three MPAs in the provincial assembly after the allocation of one reserved seat for women.

The JI, BNP-M and Haq Do Tehreek have one seat each in the Balochistan Assembly. The ECP has withheld the results of three provincial assembly seats.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Sickening that a party that won 17 seats has been gifted so many..unofficial martial law..
 

Destruction of Pakistan delayed for a while​

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Federal cabinet to be decided after presidential vote: Rana Sanaullah​

PML-N leader Rana Sanaullah has said that the federal cabinet would be decided after the new President takes oath on March 10.

Speaking on Geo News programme Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Kay Saath, the former interior minister said: ā€œI think it will be done by March 10-11.ā€

When asked why the cabinet formation was being delayed and if the delay was because PML-N leader Ishaq Darā€™s role could not be decided so far, Sanaullah explained that everyone was focusing their attention to the presidential vote.

Source: Dawn News
 
Sardar Salim Haider to take oath as Punjab governor today

Pakistan Peopleā€™s Party (PPP) leader Sardar Salim Haider Khan will be sworn in as Governor Punjab today (Tuesday), Dunya News reported.

According to sources, the oath-taking ceremony will be held at the Governor House at 6:00pm. Chief Justice Lahore High Court (LHC) will administer the oath to Sardar Salim Haider.

Pakistan Peopleā€™s Party chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, PPP leaders, members of Punjab cabinet, Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leaders will attend the oath-taking ceremony.

The oath taking ceremony, which was originally scheduled for Sunday (May 5), was postponed for two days as incumbent governor Balighur Rehman was out of the country. The PML-N had requested the PPP leaders to postpone the ceremony for two days.


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