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Thanks for writing the detailed scenarioMazhar Abbas a sane voice, has predicted a very dangerous scenario
Thanks for writing the detailed scenario
You can control whether you live in a western country or not.Your a confused individual. We can only control what we can, and leave whats uncontrollable to the Almighty.
As you may know, people have been protesting, boycotting, which is all part of standing with our opressed brethren.
The question is, do you practice what you preach?
The poodle government of pakistan have been doing NATOS dirty work on innocent civilians. The Government which you continued to champion over imrans government who comprehensively told the Americans to get xxst. So it seems hypocrisy is within .
My uncle who is a staunch Pmln supporter and even rallies for them said that the general mood in the camp is that they know it's a stolen election and they all want to rid the army of their power and control.
This is the mood with many PTI and Pmln supporters alike. Everyone is just fed up with the army.
Pakistani people used to have pride for their army. Not anymore.
You can control whether you live in a western country or not. Don’t pretend that it is not your control.
As I said, your morality is subject to terms & conditions and conveniences. If you think you have a clear conscience you are delusional.
@Bewal Express and everyone else who quoted me on this post: I personally don’t care if my tax money is used to harm Muslims in other countries or whatever, because I don’t believe in the concept of ummah and I couldn’t care less about what happens in Palestine, but when overseas Pakistanis will take the moral high ground and thump their chests about their morals and values, they will be shown the mirror and reminded of their hypocrisy.
As far as protesting is concerned, you can protest all you want but you are still paying taxes to a government that is proving military aid to Israel. The fact remains.
That is a cop out because leaving the west to ensure you play no part in the crimes against Muslims is very inconvenient and because of your selfishness, you are attempting to clear your guilt.Islam says law of the land has to be obeyed. Paying taxes is that.
That is a cop out because leaving the west to ensure you play no part in the crimes against Muslims is very inconvenient and because of your selfishness, you are attempting to clear your guilt.
In Islam, there is no concept of nation-state. Islam believes in the concept of ummah, in the brotherhood of Muslims. Ergo, in Islam, your identity as a Muslim takes precedence over your ethnicity and your nationality.
If the law of your land is in conflict with the Muslim ummah and has adopted policies that harms Muslims, you have a duty to your ummah because it takes precedence over your nationality.
You can control whether you live in a country that provides military aid to Israel or not.We have duty to our opressed brotherens. We completely oppose the injustices inflicted upon them in a way WE CAN CONTROL.
Boycotting, rallys, are all part of standing with our opressed brotherens.
You can flip flop all you want, these are the correct channels
You can control whether you live in a country that provides military aid to Israel or not.
You continue to live there because of income, standard of living, security among other things.
Your decision is not based on what you cannot control but it is based on your selfish needs and desires.
Please don’t call them your oppressed brethren because you don’t deserve to be called their brother because you have their blood on their hands.
They are being killed and brutalized with the ammunition that you paid for.
Trust me "Vote Ko Izzat do" Nawaz was 100 times better than the current Nawaz.Why Nawaz Sharif failed to win Pakistan election despite tacit army support
When Nawaz Sharif, the three-time former prime minister, emerged on the balcony of his party’s headquarters in Lahore on Friday night, fireworks went off as he was given a rousing welcome by the crowd of nearly 1,500 people.
Sharif started out with what has now become the staple of his public addresses, asking the crowd of his Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PMLN) supporters, “Do you love me?”. The response, “We love you!”, echoed among his adoring audience.
Yet, more than three days after Pakistan voted in general elections, there is little evidence that the sentiment of Sharif’s core supporters is shared by the wider public in the nation of 241 million people that stunned analysts in their voting patterns on February 8.
Source: Al Jazeera
I was listening to an interview of Latif Khosa where he claimed, We don't just have 97 seats in the National Assembly; we have more than 170 seats, and they have already filed cases in court. I think it might be a bit of an exaggeration, but let's see. I believe PTI will gain more seats soon because they have obtained evidence of Form 47.
You have said the same thing and I have replied in kind. Its interesting that you didn't say why PKs can't protest. My tax give me a voice, but in PK you have supported criminals that won't even allow you to protest because Israel ultimately controls PK. How else do you explain the banning of the protests.You can control whether you live in a western country or not.
As I said, your morality is subject to terms & conditions and conveniences.
@Bewal Express and everyone else who quoted me on this post: I personally don’t care if my tax money is used to harm Muslims in other countries or whatever, because I don’t believe in the concept of ummah and I couldn’t care less about what happens in Palestine, but when overseas Pakistanis will take the moral high ground and thump their chests about their morals and values, they will be shown the mirror and reminded of their hypocrisy.
As far as protesting is concerned, you can protest all you want but you are still paying taxes to a government that is proving military aid to Israel. The fact remains.
But we and the public saw through this rubbishTrust me "Vote Ko Izzat do" Nawaz was 100 times better than the current Nawaz.
Is that true or a trope? The Pakistan government has certainly been pro-Palestine and anti-Israel and has issued statements condemning Israeli violence in the Gaza strip. Why would they ban public shows of solidarity?You have said the same thing and I have replied in kind. Its interesting that you didn't say why PKs can't protest. My tax give me a voice, but in PK you have supported criminals that won't even allow you to protest because Israel ultimately controls PK. How else do you explain the banning of the protests. So who is the hypocrite me or you.
Even the corrupted land that PK has become some people still fear Allah.n
PS-129: Hafiz Naeem withdraws from Sindh Assembly seat
Ameer Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Karachi Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman on Monday announced he would be relinquishing his provincial assembly seat, PS-129, from Karachi as he did not win the seat rather it was the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) backed candidate that had won the seat.
Addressing a press conference in Karachi, Naeem claimed that his PTI-backed opponent won the seat and he does not want a "charity" seat.
He said he was returning the seat, but would continue the legal and political battle to reclaim all the seats that his party lost due to rigging.
"You cannot change the people’s mind through fake mandate," he said.
In the February 8 general elections, he won the Sindh Assembly seat PS-129 from Karachi Central. However, he said it was the PTI-supported candidate who won on PS-129, not him.
“I do not want a seat in charity. It should be given to the one who has the right to it,” he said.
Naeem said the PTI candidate received more votes, so he was accepting PTI’s victory and mandate. He added that he had enough dignity within himself to accept that the independent candidate had won on PS-129
The JI leader also announced that he would not take oath as an MPA on the seat.
As per the Form 45, the PTI affiliated candidate won PS-129, hence he should take oath on that seat, he said. He said according to the ECP’s Form 47, he bagged 26,000 votes, whereas, he bagged 30,464 votes as per Form 45s.
Vowing to launch the battle to get back their “winning seats”, the JI Karachi chief said even on his winning seat his votes were shown as 26,000, when he had bagged 30,000.
Demanding election results on the basis of Form 45, Naeem said they wanted all those seats where his party had won.
The JI leader claimed that his decision to return the seat was a slap on the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP)’s face. He also rebuked the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P) for celebrating on the “fake mandate”.
The JI leader said a large number of their polling agents were not provided Form 45 and the worst kind of rigging was conducted through Form 47. The returning officers’ offices were sealed from all sides so that they could not approach him, he said.
He claimed that people gave them more votes in the general elections than last year's local government polls.
Source: The Express Tribune
Why are the Noora candidates waiting for the forged firm 45s? Why not show the original ones given. The problem with your ilk is that you can't accept that NS and family are actually hated and it will get worse. None of the family can win their own seat, we know that in Manshera NS got smashed, we know that in Lahore he had a 100 000 votes added.I was listening to an interview of Latif Khosa where he claimed, We don't just have 97 seats in the National Assembly; we have more than 170 seats, and they have already filed cases in court. I think it might be a bit of an exaggeration, but let's see. I believe PTI will gain more seats soon because they have obtained evidence of Form 47.
Trust me "Vote Ko Izzat do" Nawaz was 100 times better than the current Nawaz.
They haven't. The PKs are probably more passionate about Palestine than probably any other cause.Is that true or a trope? The Pakistan government has certainly been pro-Palestine and anti-Israel and has issued statements condemning Israeli violence in the Gaza strip. Why would they ban public shows of solidarity?
Not sure why they wouldn't allow protests. Pro-Palestine protests are certainly not banned in India. There was a pretty large one in Mumbai a month or so ago and there have been several in other cities as well.
I was listening to an interview of Latif Khosa where he claimed, We don't just have 97 seats in the National Assembly; we have more than 170 seats, and they have already filed cases in court. I think it might be a bit of an exaggeration, but let's see. I believe PTI will gain more seats soon because they have obtained evidence of Form 47.
Here's another one -We know for sure that quite a few seats were stolen according to the many Form 45s that clearly state that PTI's candidates won by a healthy margin in a lot of them.
Here's a snippet from Twitter :
"NA 250:
We have verified 60% of the results so far based on form-45s.
PTI (Riaz Haider): 64,813 votes; JI: 29,707; MQM: 8,266;
Guess which candidate won as per Form-47? MQM, who went from 8,000 to 80,000."
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Here's the President of Jamaat-e-Islami vacating his seat because he found out that it was unfairly stolen from a PTI candidate.
@FearlessRoarWe know for sure that quite a few seats were stolen according to the many Form 45s that clearly state that PTI's candidates won by a healthy margin in a lot of them.
Here's a snippet from Twitter :
"NA 250:
We have verified 60% of the results so far based on form-45s.
PTI (Riaz Haider): 64,813 votes; JI: 29,707; MQM: 8,266;
Guess which candidate won as per Form-47? MQM, who went from 8,000 to 80,000."
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Here's the President of Jamaat-e-Islami vacating his seat because he found out that it was unfairly stolen from a PTI candidate.
LOL so well said.. every one of those who believe that west and Israel are oppressing Muslims, should quit supporting that oppression by paying taxes to their government. On the one hand these people are residing in countries which are directly arming Israel and on the other hand the same people are obsessively parroting online about the brutalities against Palestine. It is in your own hand to move out of such countries and go back to countries which are supporting Palestine, like Pakistan. When you have directly contributed to the oppression of your brothers and have their blood on your hands you have no moral grounds and there is nothing to achieve by preaching online. If you refuse to do that, then remember you are part of the same problem and you are also a oppressor. At least those white folks in west who are supporting Palestine may not have a way to get out of their countries. Most of the online posters here are Pakistani passport holder and Pakistan supports Palestine.. You have the option to go to your country and support your brothers.You can control whether you live in a country that provides military aid to Israel or not.
You continue to live there because of income, standard of living, security among other things.
Your decision is not based on what you cannot control but it is based on your selfish needs and desires.
Please don’t call them your oppressed brethren because you don’t deserve to be called their brother because you have their blood on their hands.
They are being killed and brutalized with the ammunition that you paid for.
So leave foreign lands that dont help Palestinians and move to Pakistan, a country which doesnt help Pakistanis?LOL so well said.. every one of those who believe that west and Israel are oppressing Muslims, should quit supporting that oppression by paying taxes to their government. On the one hand these people are residing in countries which are directly arming Israel and on the other hand the same people are obsessively parroting online about the brutalities against Palestine. It is in your own hand to move out of such countries and go back to countries which are supporting Palestine, like Pakistan. When you have directly contributed to the oppression of your brothers and have their blood on your hands you have no moral grounds and there is nothing to achieve by preaching online. If you refuse to do that, then remember you are part of the same problem and you are also a oppressor. At least those white folks in west who are supporting Palestine may not have a way to get out of their countries. Most of the online posters here are Pakistani passport holder and Pakistan supports Palestine.. You have the option to go to your country and support your brothers.
Dont know which spiritual power actually bringing these independent candidates only towrds PMLNFive independent candidates, who emerged victorious in the general elections, called on Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) President Shehbaz Sharif on Monday.
Sardar Shamsher Mazari who won the election from NA-189, Imran Akram from PP-195, Sohail Khan from PP-240, Khizar Hussain Mazari from PP-297, and Sahibzada Muhammad Ghazain Abbasi from PP-249 were among those who met with Shehbaz.
All five members expressed confidence in PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif and announced their decision to officially join the PML-N.
Source: Tribune
It was predicted by ex PTI members that this was to happenDont know which spiritual power actually bringing these independent candidates only towrds PMLN
Stick to fighting sportsLOL so well said.. every one of those who believe that west and Israel are oppressing Muslims, should quit supporting that oppression by paying taxes to their government. On the one hand these people are residing in countries which are directly arming Israel and on the other hand the same people are obsessively parroting online about the brutalities against Palestine. It is in your own hand to move out of such countries and go back to countries which are supporting Palestine, like Pakistan. When you have directly contributed to the oppression of your brothers and have their blood on your hands you have no moral grounds and there is nothing to achieve by preaching online. If you refuse to do that, then remember you are part of the same problem and you are also an oppressor. At least those white folks in west who are supporting Palestine may not have a way to get out of their countries. Most of the online posters here are Pakistani passport holder and Pakistan supports Palestine.. You have the option to go to your country and support your brothers.
Which party do you support Rana Sahab? #Just_CuriousIt was predicted by ex PTI members that this was to happen
You're telling me PK supports Palestinians,Can you tell me what Demos took place in PK? What did PK do under Munir and NSLOL so well said.. every one of those who believe that west and Israel are oppressing Muslims, should quit supporting that oppression by paying taxes to their government. On the one hand these people are residing in countries which are directly arming Israel and on the other hand the same people are obsessively parroting online about the brutalities against Palestine. It is in your own hand to move out of such countries and go back to countries which are supporting Palestine, like Pakistan. When you have directly contributed to the oppression of your brothers and have their blood on your hands you have no moral grounds and there is nothing to achieve by preaching online. If you refuse to do that, then remember you are part of the same problem and you are also a oppressor. At least those white folks in west who are supporting Palestine may not have a way to get out of their countries. Most of the online posters here are Pakistani passport holder and Pakistan supports Palestine.. You have the option to go to your country and support your brothers.
No expectations of any sort of Justice from Lahore High Court!Abdul Aleem Khan, President of the IPP and recently elected member of the National Assembly, received a significant legal victory as the Lahore High Court (LHC) dismissed a plea challenging the election results of NA-117, declaring it inadmissible.
An application filed by independent candidate Ali Ijaz Buttar raised concerns regarding the election results in NA-117. However, Justice Ali Baqir Najafi of the Lahore High Court ultimately dismissed the application, upholding Khan's election.
In its decision, the honorable court directed the petitioners to refer to the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) under Sections 8 and 9 of the Election Act 2017.
The court's decision emphasized the importance of ensuring candidate presence during the results preparation process. It instructed the ECP to consider this aspect while evaluating the petitions filed under Article 218 of the Constitution.
Furthermore, the court noted that the Returning Officer of the Election Commission had issued an unconditional apology for not appearing in court, adding another layer to the legal proceedings surrounding the election results.
Samaa TV
Not PTIWhich party do you support Rana Sahab? #Just_Curious
Not PTI
Not sure about the authenticity of this but yeah, PTI is left with no choice here. The built a whole narrative that they will not join hands with PML or PPP but forming a gov in federal is not possible for them without bringing them in.Ik issued statement from Jail: No coalition with syndicate of money laundering ala N league and PPP
Ali Amin Gandapur to be CM KP
Where is PML N's Narrative of "VOTE KO IZZAT DO" gone? At least PTI is keeping his narrative safe by not opting to join hands against whom they talked in the past, PML N and PPP. Even if they want to join PPP, I would say that they should sit in opposition instead.90+ Seats and they will sit in opposition..
This is more hilarious than the VONC
Imran has not learned politics. He is doing another own goal
PMLN has stooped so low for power if such attitude persisted PMLN may become the next PPP.Where is PML N's Narrative of "VOTE KO IZZAT DO" gone? At least PTI is keeping his narrative safe by not opting to join hands against whom they talked in the past, PML N and PPP. Even if they want to join PPP, I would say that they should sit in opposition instead.
Atleast? where was this atleast in 2018?Where is PML N's Narrative of "VOTE KO IZZAT DO" gone? At least PTI is keeping his narrative safe by not opting to join hands against whom they talked in the past, PML N and PPP. Even if they want to join PPP, I would say that they should sit in opposition instead.
This is exactly what's wrong with Pakistani politics and the average pakistani's ethics. "Imran has not learned politics. He is doing another own goal" Why? Because he refuses to join hands with the corrupt power hungry thieves? A lot of PTI's votes grew from the dislike of the opposing parties and not out of support for Imran, he'd be stabbing his voter base in the back by holding hands with criminals. Don't impose your meek morality on someone else. It's extremely commendable how forming a coalition with PPP is a free get out of jail card for Imran and he's still NOT budging on his morals. A true leader who we, as a weak society with no morals should aim to emulate.90+ Seats and they will sit in opposition..
This is more hilarious than the VONC
Imran has not learned politics. He is doing another own goal
Atleast? where was this atleast in 2018?
Whats done is done, a real politicain can play the the things in his favor coming into the govt.
But if pti wants to sit in opposition with 90+ seats be my guest. The loser in this case is PTI.
No one cares about morally right or wrong. PPP and PMLN were at the recieving end of things in 2018. THey played the situation in there favor after 4 years.
Yes you keep believing that. Nani and the crew have been Humiliated and that can't be undone. The criminals won less than 20 seats, yes less than 20.
And now the KPK safe house is also in danger
The PPP and the Nooras did PTI out of 20 sears. Bajwa personally intervened to save Rana and Khawaja. Billo said we will protest and lay down cases and then Bajwa told them not open a box which they were beneficiaries. The benefits of which they got in 2022.Atleast? where was this atleast in 2018?
Whats done is done, a real politicain can play the the things in his favor coming into the govt.
But if pti wants to sit in opposition with 90+ seats be my guest. The loser in this case is PTI.
No one cares about morally right or wrong. PPP and PMLN were at the recieving end of things in 2018. THey played the situation in there favor after 4 years.
So the guys that beat up woman and had them locked up for 9 months without trial are talking about misogyny. These beghairat have no shame
This is politics.This is exactly what's wrong with Pakistani politics and the average pakistani's ethics. "Imran has not learned politics. He is doing another own goal" Why? Because he refuses to join hands with the corrupt power hungry thieves? A lot of PTI's votes grew from the dislike of the opposing parties and not out of support for Imran, he'd be stabbing his voter base in the back by holding hands with criminals. Don't impose your meek morality on someone else. It's extremely commendable how forming a coalition with PPP is a free get out of jail card for Imran and he's still NOT budging on his morals. A true leader who we, as a weak society with no morals should aim to emulate.
A Good idea to save your reserve seatsThe Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) announced on Tuesday that it will form the government in central Punjab with the Majlis Wahdat-e-Muslimeen (MWM)
Addressing the press conference in Islamabad, PTI Secretary Information Raoof Hassan said: "We will form the government in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, we will form the government along with the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI)."
Hassan said: "On the instructions of the PTI founder, we will form the government in the two provinces [Punjab, KP]."
"It is up to Ali Amin Gandapur to form the government as per the instructions of the PTI founder," Hassan said.
He ruled out any possibility of alliance with the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N), Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), and Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P).
"Aamir Dogar had once again been appointed as the chief whip," Hassan said.
Hassan said, "It has also been directed to hold the PTI intraparty elections soon."
– PTI collected heavy mandate without election symbol –
PTI leader Barrister Gohar asserted: "The PTI had kept far from the elections."
Expressing his thoughts, Gohar said: "The PTI has emerged victorious despite the fact that its leadership is facing detention."
"We had collected a heavy mandate despite not having the election symbol," the PTI leader said.
Source: Samaa News
Are you sure. Look at the media cell tweeting Nanis humiliation with this co-ordination. Read
And now the KPK safe house is also in danger
Don't worry IK. He doesn't need you or me or anyone else to worry. Allah is justThis is politics.
Like it or not, this is how politics is played in Pakistan.
What you is what matters.
If Imran wants to rot in jail for the next 5 years and be the end of his political career so be it.
PPP has major differences with PMLN but even they know that to survive in politics and to get Punjab back, they will have to do a coalition. This is how political parties survive in the long run. Not become stubborn and cry when thngs dont go your way.
He could had taken down PMLN this week by joining PPP and than take PPP down in future if he was able to.
in politics he does need. Or else he will dieAre you sure. Look at the media cell tweeting Nanis humiliation with this co-ordination. Read
Don't worry IK. He doesn't need you or me or anyone else to worry. Allah is just
Isa didn't go as far to destroy his CJPship so that it could be circumvented so easily.A Good idea to save your reserve seats
It's called having no support. When you win less than 20 seats, you rely on the boots for handouts.A bit weird that the PMLN did so much to get Nawaz Sharif back in the country.
At the end of the day, they are apparently nominating Ahsan Iqbal for the PM position and Maryam Nawaz for the Punjab CM position.
They are going to make a huge blunder now.Not PTI
and that PM will not last more than 6 months for sure.So fake Aristotle will be the PM, he is even a downgrade to Kakar