What was the point of hosting The Champions One Day Cup 2024?

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan recently announced their squads for the upcoming odi and t20 series against Zimbabwe and Australia, However it seems that the top performers of this tournament were simply ignored?

For example Usman Khan was the top scorer of the tournament maintaining a very healthy avg of 54 and a strike rate of 128, Yet he seems to be missing from the One Day squad?

Abdullah Shafique averaged 22 with a strike rate of 71 in the same tournament but he's been selected as the priemere opener against Australia .

Their so much to tear apart, but my question is, Why did you guys even host a one day tournament if it was meant to be meaningless?

 

[Rana]

The purpose of the tournament was simply to project Rizwan as captain and Misbah as head coach.

It was a conceited attempt to lay the groundwork of Kirsten’s removal.

 

[Kianig89]

Mafias work in Pakistan cricket at every step, there is no plannning no objective, the start of domestic season was delayed due to silly reason.

Rizwan is made because there is no other choice. Don't take anything personal

 

[mominsaigol]

The purpose of the tournament was simply to project Rizwan as captain and Misbah as head coach.

It was a conceited attempt to lay the groundwork of Kirsten’s removal.

Champions one day cup stats

Hasebullah: 15 avg 55 sr

Rizwan: 29 avg 80 sr

Abdullah: 22 avg 71 SR

And shaheen was one of the worst bowlers of the tournament . All his wickets are tailenders .

 

[Sunny_majoka]

All Pakistan is included except your favorite mubashir( who is injured) sharjeel ( not fit) and sarfraz ( past his prime)

 

[mominsaigol]

All Pakistan is included except your favorite munashir, sharjeel and sarfraz.

Usman Khan, Tayyab, Fakhar, Mubashir Khan, Ali Raza, Sajid Khan etc etc are straight up missing from the One Day squad against australia.

 

[Rana]

Dhoka cup

Waqar’s dhoka project

The Pavilion show

 

[mominsaigol]

Also before people bash me for being a hypocrite. Look at my team of the tournament for the cup on the thread that I created.

Babar and Saim Ayub are included in the team of the tournament.

As I said, Top performers and these 2 did perform in the cup even if they haven't replicated their feats in international.

So please leave your, Another Babar and rizwan bashing thread nonsense out of this.

A 29 avg batter in a low level league followed by a 19 avg test batter gets rewarded with white ball captaincy. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Rana]

Im so glad that Allah has sent this forum a great poster like @mominsaigol

I don’t have the power or ability to express my views that would resonate in the best manner. But my brother Momin has done so much to speak my mind in the emphatic manner that I would love to do so myself.

Keep it up bro. Keep telling the truth!

 

[mominsaigol]

Im so glad that Allah has sent this forum a great poster like @mominsaigol

I don’t have the power or ability to express my views that would resonate in the best manner. But my brother Momin has done so much to speak my mind in the emphatic manner that I would love to do so myself.

Keep it up bro. Kich ke rakh! Keep telling the truth!

Pakistani posters like redwood laughed at my suggestions to take sajid Khan in tests and England series happened.

Pakistani posters laughed at me because I claimed rizzu would fail against England after avg 29 in a low level league and yet rizzu avg 19 in the next series .

Theirs no winning with these people.

When I make a prediction, they call me fake aussie or crazy or mentally ill or whatever, When that prediction comes true, they call me overconfident, Whiny and irritating or smug .

Oh Lord .

All these lads need to do is put 2 in 2 together?

 

[Rana]

InshaAllah, the end is near boys. Pakistan will be rid of this fitna once and for all.

 

[mominsaigol]

Champions one day cup stats

Hasebullah: 15 avg 55 sr

Rizwan: 29 avg 80 sr

Abdullah: 22 avg 71 SR

And shaheen was one of the worst bowlers of the tournament . All his wickets are tailenders .

Another key metric, With the exception of Hasebullah, Abdullah and rizzu played all their games before being called up for England.

So no these stats are not filtered. Check them yourself

 

[mominsaigol]

InshaAllah, the end is near boys. Pakistan will be rid of this fitna once and for all.

Theirs nothing more then Insane then creating an atg odi team for pakistan and putting Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Misbah, Shadab and Shaheen in it

 

[Rana]

InshaAllah, the end is near boys. Pakistan will be rid of this fitna once and for all.

One guy I clearly forgot to mention is @TheSultan

Another legend for the right cause.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Just PR campaign

 

[mominsaigol]

One guy I clearly forgot to mention is @TheSultan

Another legend for the right cause.

You also forgot @Mohraheem

He doesn't type or explain much but he does speak the truth.

He did correctly point out Misbah's intentions on bringing in his son and I did do some digging.

Misbah wants rizzu as captain and wants to pass the torch. Aka rizzu will be the one to groom his son into the team.

 

[Rana]

You also forgot @Mohraheem

He doesn't type or explain much but he does speak the truth.

He did correctly point out Misbah's intentions on bringing in his son and I did do some digging.

Misbah wants rizzu as captain and wants to pass the torch. Aka rizzu will be the one to groom his son into the team.

@Mohraheem ’s intention to expose Misbah’s influence in the domestic circuit is correct. He’s still unclear on the case of Rizwan. I’ve tried to get this out of him but I suspect he doesn’t really have an issue with Rizwan. He’s entitled to not be influenced by us and hold his own opinion about him.

Generally, he is 100% right about Misbah though.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Apart from being a PR exercise, it only helped the mentors make some money for doing next to nothing.

Don't understand the point of playing a high quality domestic tournament(including international stars) and then not respecting the numbers in this tournament

 

[mominsaigol]

@Mohraheem ’s intention to expose Misbah’s influence in the domestic circuit is correct. He’s still unclear on the case of Rizwan. I’ve tried to get this out of him but I suspect he doesn’t really have an issue with Rizwan. He’s entitled to not be influenced by us and hold his own opinion about him.

Generally, he is 100% right about Misbah though.

I don't think he's unclear, I think he's unaware.

One of his posts on rizzu being appointed captain was something along the lines of

"As long as Misbah keeps away from rizwan and domestic circuit everything will be fine"

I don't think he's aware that rizwan is Misbah. Their one and the same. Only difference is the acting nonsense rizzu does. But otherwise their exactly the same. Master and student lol.

 

[shaz619]

The point of it was to advocate the fallacy that in Pakistan we’re no better than Rizwan, Babar and co, there’s nobody else etc

Rizwan was given advance notice to, he was running on a treadmil in sauna’s every morning like Prince Naseem Hamed on the day of the Barrera fight.

After all that prep and his supreme conditioning, Rizwan assumed his favourite Babar position for the bowlers.

 

[Rana]

I don't think he's unclear, I think he's unaware.

One of his posts on rizzu being appointed captain was something along the lines of

"As long as Misbah keeps away from rizwan and domestic circuit everything will be fine"

I don't think he's aware that rizwan is Misbah. Their one and the same. Only difference is the acting nonsense rizzu does. But otherwise their exactly the same. Master and student lol.

We are assuming but @Mohraheem deals and comes across a lot of these guys at the CanadaT20 league as he’s part of the ownership group of one franchise.

He probably has reasons to view players the way he does, which is fair play to him.

 

[mominsaigol]

The point of it was to advocate the fallacy that in Pakistan we’re no better than Rizwan, Babar and co, there’s nobody else etc

Molvi Saab was given advance notice to, he was running on a treadmil in sauna’s every morning like Prince Naseem Hamed on the day of the Barrera fight.

After all that prep and his supreme conditioning, Molvi Saab assumed his favourite Babar position for the bowlers.

Rizwan did nothing in that tournament. Everyone faiked except Babar who performed but bobby isn't even top 3 socrers of that cup lol.

Usman Khan and KG were clearly superior to him in said outing.

To top it off, his 100's in said cup were still stat pads. His sr was atrocious in the middle overs as well.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan did nothing in that tournament. Everyone faiked except Babar who performed but bobby isn't even top 3 socrers of that cup lol.

Usman Khan and KG were clearly superior to him in said outing.

To top it off, his 100's in said cup were still stat pads. His sr was atrocious in the middle overs as well.

Inflated avg cause he bashed Dhani

 

[BouncerGuy]

Can you guys stay on topic??? If you guys cannot then better to leave this thread clean for other who what to talk about the topic.

 

[BouncerGuy]

What was the point of hosting The Champions One Day Cup 2024?

You all can see the question asked, pretty well. Talk about it and do not get personal now.​

 

[iPakistani]

I don't support anything the clown Naqvi is doing but it's a domestic competition set up to foster and polish talent. Just like any domestic competition in the world, it doesn't guarantee a place in the national team, if someone new performs it's 'oh, this kid is pretty good, let's keep an eye on him'.

It's pretty clear the thread was made to discredit Rizwan's performance in the Champions cup and him subsequently being made white ball captain, however performing in one domestic competition doesn't mean you should be automatically selected for the next national team match.

How many of the 23/24 Ranji trophy top run scorers/wicket takers made it to the India test squad for the NZ series? None of the top 10/15/20 did.

How many of the 24/25 County championship top performers get selected for the Eng v Pak test series? Apart from Jack Leach none of the other top 10/15/20 did.

And if you're complaining for domestic performers not being selected, Rizwan has churned out runs competition after competition, he averages 48 in List A cricket and averages 40 in One Day INTERNATIONALS. Why would the best keeper in Pakistan who has consistently performed in domestic and international be dropped over one domestic tournament flopshow?

 

[hafizexpress]

I don't support anything the clown Naqvi is doing but it's a domestic competition set up to foster and polish talent. Just like any domestic competition in the world, it doesn't guarantee a place in the national team, if someone new performs it's 'oh, this kid is pretty good, let's keep an eye on him'.

It's pretty clear the thread was made to discredit Rizwan's performance in the Champions cup and him subsequently being made white ball captain, however performing in one domestic competition doesn't mean you should be automatically selected for the next national team match.

How many of the 23/24 Ranji trophy top run scorers/wicket takers made it to the India test squad for the NZ series? None of the top 10/15/20 did.

How many of the 24/25 County championship top performers get selected for the Eng v Pak test series? Apart from Jack Leach none of the other top 10/15/20 did.

And if you're complaining for domestic performers not being selected, Rizwan has churned out runs competition after competition, he averages 48 in List A cricket and averages 40 in One Day INTERNATIONALS. Why would the best keeper in Pakistan who has consistently performed in domestic and international be dropped over one domestic tournament flopshow?

Great post! The Champions Cup does not necessitate selection in international cricket. It would be unfair to drop Abdullah Shafique after he performed quite decently at the World Cup, where he was selected randomly bc Pak had no planning for 4 years coming into the tournament and did not groom other openers.

Like you said about Rizwan, his overall domestic cricket record should not be discarded. Players can have bad tournaments, and players can have great fluke tournaments. It's your consistency that warrants your place on the side.

Although I still do think there are some horrid selections with no basis, such as the case with Haseebullah. He's a clear nepo baby. I also think Arafat Minhas could have been waited a little longer for. But let's see

 

[TheSultan]

Im so glad that Allah has sent this forum a great poster like @mominsaigol

I don’t have the power or ability to express my views that would resonate in the best manner. But my brother Momin has done so much to speak my mind in the emphatic manner that I would love to do so myself.

Keep it up bro. Keep telling the truth!

Slowly but surely people are waking up. Some are a bit stubborn to admit it, but they know the score.

As for this One Day Cup, personally for me, it seemed an opportunity for some profile building on social media.

The amount of nonsense babar “aura” (yes you read that right) posts and videos about fans leaving the ground were truly sickening.

 

[kingusama92]

100% spot on.

The Champions Cup was nothing more than for show.

Pakistani selectors never take domestic cricket seriously why would they now?

 

[mominsaigol]

Great post! The Champions Cup does not necessitate selection in international cricket. It would be unfair to drop Abdullah Shafique after he performed quite decently at the World Cup, where he was selected randomly bc Pak had no planning for 4 years coming into the tournament and did not groom other openers.

Like you said about Rizwan, his overall domestic cricket record should not be discarded. Players can have bad tournaments, and players can have great fluke tournaments. It's your consistency that warrants your place on the side.

Although I still do think there are some horrid selections with no basis, such as the case with Haseebullah. He's a clear nepo baby. I also think Arafat Minhas could have been waited a little longer for. But let's see

Unfair to drop Abdullah? Have you seen how crap he's been In international?

He's so bad, that he currently makes dropping Imam ul Haq controversial. .

Consistency? Abdullah I'd anything but consistent, he rode his whole career bashing sri lanka and failing against every other team

 

[hafizexpress]

Unfair to drop Abdullah? Have you seen how crap he's been In international?

He's so bad, that he currently makes dropping Imam ul Haq controversial. .

Consistency? Abdullah I'd anything but consistent, he rode his whole career bashing sri lanka and failing against every other team

"Whole career" he hasn't had much of a career yet, and most of the little that he had was a random selection for a whole WC, which he didn't do too badly in. Besides the SL inning which you can't discredit (he led the way for the highest total chased in WC history), he also provided a solid foundation vs the champions Australia considering it was his first time playing them. The rest of the team bottled it. Him over Imam any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I personally feel that he has potential, so let's see. Hope I'm proven right

 

[mominsaigol]

"Whole career" he hasn't had much of a career yet, and most of the little that he had was a random selection for a whole WC, which he didn't do too badly in. Besides the SL inning which you can't discredit (he led the way for the highest total chased in WC history), he also provided a solid foundation vs the champions Australia considering it was his first time playing them. The rest of the team bottled it. Him over Imam any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I personally feel that he has potential, so let's see. Hope I'm proven right

That's fine. If you read my earlier posts during wc 2023, I said the exact same thing that you did.

However I look at current forms.

It is a fact that after wc 2023, His form took a massive nose dive.

An avg of 22 and sr of 71 in a low level league where even the likes of shadab khan are performing better with the bat is unacceptable.

And Im tests he's worse then saim ayub atm, and saim himself has been dreadful In tests.

And this isn't a rough patch. 2024 is an entire year. Not a month.

 

[hafizexpress]

That's fine. If you read my earlier posts during wc 2023, I said the exact same thing that you did.

However I look at current forms.

It is a fact that after wc 2023, His form took a massive nose dive.

An avg of 22 and sr of 71 in a low level league where even the likes of shadab khan are performing better with the bat is unacceptable.

And Im tests he's worse then saim ayub atm, and saim himself has been dreadful In tests.

And this isn't a rough patch. 2024 is an entire year. Not a month.

That's also fair. I wouldn't have minded Usman Khan being brought in and AS returning to domestics and proving his selection. Even his previous selection wasn't on merit, it was more out of desperation bc Babar didn't groom a single other opening bat in his 4 years

 

[mominsaigol]

That's also fair. I wouldn't have minded Usman Khan being brought in and AS returning to domestics and proving his selection. Even his previous selection wasn't on merit, it was more out of desperation bc Babar didn't groom a single other opening bat in his 4 years

That's what I'm saying. Abdullah deserves a drop, if he performes in domestic then he deserves a comeback.

A good player to have tried for opening would be omair bin Yousaf as he's opened before and is grinding and performing. Kamran Ghulam can also open and so can Saud as they've done it before.

But I think saud is more suited for the middle order due to his spin play ability, he's isn't great at pace.

Usman Khan should play at no 4. He's a terrific player of spin and enjoys the no 4 spot. But the issue is rizwam and Babar won't move from no 3 and no 4

 

[Mamoon]

The purpose of the tournament was simply to project Rizwan as captain and Misbah as head coach.

It was a conceited attempt to lay the groundwork of Kirsten’s removal.

This squad was selected by Aqib, apparently the best cricketing mind in the country. This is a real banana peel for his supporters

 

[Rana]

This squad was selected by Aqib, apparently the best cricketing mind in the country. This is a real banana peel for his supporters

Zindabad Aqib for dropping Babar and winning the 2nd and 3rd Test for Pakistan.

Well done for showing Bobsy the king and his Zimbu fans their real Auqaat.

Respect to Aqib Javed for this!

 

[Mohraheem]

I don't think he's unclear, I think he's unaware.

One of his posts on rizzu being appointed captain was something along the lines of

"As long as Misbah keeps away from rizwan and domestic circuit everything will be fine"

I don't think he's aware that rizwan is Misbah. Their one and the same. Only difference is the acting nonsense rizzu does. But otherwise their exactly the same. Master and student lol.

I understand Yaar, but I want this friendship to end. Where Rizwan leaks Misbah’s as a fixer

 

[BouncerGuy]

Some top performers of the Champions Cup are nowhere to be seen in the ODI squad. Where is Mubasir KHan??? Usman Khan?? Where is Jahandad Khan??

What is the merit of Haseebullah's selection??? Abdullah's selection???

 

[mominsaigol]

Some top performers of the Champions Cup are nowhere to be seen in the ODI squad. Where is Mubasir KHan??? Usman Khan?? Where is Jahandad Khan??

What is the merit of Haseebullah's selection??? Abdullah's selection???

90% of the players who were top performers weren't even selected.

Only Kamran Ghulam and Irfan Khan Niazi have been incorporated.

 

[mominsaigol]

Can I even ask what people even see in Abdullah? Useless and rubbish opener.

7 List A games and pcb decided this guy will be the priemere opener for pakistan in wc 2023

 

[Mamoon]

Zindabad Aqib for dropping Babar and winning the 2nd and 3rd Test for Pakistan.

Well done for showing Bobsy the king and his Zimbu fans their real Auqaat.

Respect to Aqib Javed for this!

So you don’t agree with the white ball squad selected by Aqib?

 

[Rana]

So you don’t agree with the white ball squad selected by Aqib?

Do I care?

 

[Mamoon]

Do I care?

Answer the question.

 

[Rana]

Answer the question.

I said,

Do I care?

 

[mominsaigol]

For me Aqib has done good and bad.

good

He's the reason why Pakistan finally managed to win a home series test

Hes the reason rubbish like chacha, Imam and shadab are booted to the curb

Bad

He hasnt gotten rid of the roti gang, infact With rizzu as a captain, The moment aqib is gone, itll mean we go back to Step 1: Which was 2019-2020 Misbah era. So be prepared for losses to Zimbabwe and UAE lol.

 

[gazza619]

5 mentors got paid Rs.50 lakh each though alhumdulilah