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EU far-right MPs head to Kashmir in rare foreign visit

Nearly 30 European MPs, drawn mainly from far-right parties, will on Tuesday be the first international delegation to visit Indian-administered Kashmir since a security clampdown was imposed in the Muslim-majority region in August.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government withdrew Kashmir's autonomy on August 5, a move accompanied by a crackdown on dissent by security forces there, to head off protests.

While the Indian government backs the visit, the European Parliament and the European Union hierarchy has not been involved, raising some diplomatic doubts. Several European embassies in New Delhi were unaware of the visit until Monday.

Kashmir, which is also claimed by Pakistan and in the grips of an armed rebellion for three decades, has been in the international spotlight since New Delhi's move to tighten its grip on the Himalayan region.

"The delegation of MEPs is not on an official visit in India and came here at the invitation of a non-government group," said an EU official in India, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We are not organising any of their meetings."

EU Foreign Minister Federica Mogherini earlier raised the issue of "restrictions on fundamental freedoms" in Kashmir with India's Foreign Minister S Jaishankar.

Pakistan has condemned the change of status of the territory and warned that it could drive more Muslims to extremism across the world.

The dispute over Kashmir has bedevilled relations between the two nuclear-armed nations and sparked two of their three wars.

The EU delegation of 27 politicians drawn from 11 countries will meet with government officials and residents to assess the situation in Kashmir, Indian officials said.

The trip comes after US members of Congress expressed concern over a lack of access for diplomats and foreign media in the disputed region. US Congressman Chris Van Hollen was not allowed to visit Srinagar, the main city of Kashmir, earlier this month.

New Delhi has so far denied permission to foreign journalists to cover the situation in Kashmir after the August 5 decision, according to the Hindu newspaper. UN Special Rapporteurs at the Human Rights Council have also criticised New Delhi for denying them to visit the region.

On Monday, the EU legislators met Modi who said the visit would give them a clear view of the development priorities of the region, his office said.

Modi, making the biggest political move in Jammu and Kashmir since an armed revolt erupted in 1989, has said that special rights for Kashmir, such as a ban on outsiders buying property, had hindered its development.

The Jammu and Kashmir state, as it was officially known, was split into two federally-administered territories - Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh - in August.

"Their visit to Jammu and Kashmir should give the delegation a better understanding of the cultural and religious diversity of the region of Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh," Modi said.

An Indian official said the EU group's visit would open the door to visits by others. India is trying to counter Pakistan on the international stage. Islamabad has accused New Delhi of unleashing genocide in Kashmir.

Former Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti, one of the scores of leaders detained since August, said on Twitter she hoped the politicians would be allowed free access.

"Hope they get a chance to speak to the people, local media, doctors and civil society members. The iron curtain between Kashmir & the world needs to be lifted."

Fearing unrest, the government cut telephone and internet lines and imposed a near curfew in many parts after the Article 370 that accorded Kashmir special rights was abrogated.

The measures were recently eased, with telephone lines restored, but the population still has no internet.

Thierry Mariani, a European MP for France's far-right National Rally, told AFP "we are going to see the situation in Kashmir, at least what they want to show us".
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-foreign-visit-clampdown-191028121735778.html

Looks like far right and some right wing are joining forces, troublesome times ahead for social tolerance esp coz so many of the posters even here dislike many humane left and liberal policies in the western countries are residents of.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India’s PM Modi speaks of “a new future” for Kashmir. But it’s not evident that that future includes protecting the rights of Kashmiris. Hundreds of people remain in custody or under house arrest, and there is still no access to the internet. <a href="https://t.co/WiU7I6Du5d">https://t.co/WiU7I6Du5d</a></p>— Kenneth Roth (@KenRoth) <a href="https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/1190228920244883457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we celebrate <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UniversalChildrensDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UniversalChildrensDay</a> this year, we must not forget the suffering of children of Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir. The international community must urge India to abide by its obligations under CRC on child rights, particularly for the children in IOJK.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1197106715671613442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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In Jammu and Kashmir, a new department opens to register land transactions – and it’s sparked anger

The decision has reinforced one of the Valley’s most acute fears: that recent legal changes are aimed at altering the demography of the Muslim-majority region.

On October 22, days before the state of Jammu and Kashmir was officially split into two Union Territories, the state administration announced a new department of registration would be set up.

It would function under the revenue department. The aim was to “provide hassle free and speedy service to the citizens for registration of documents pertaining to immovable property like sale, gift, mortgage, lease, bequest”, said a government press release on October 23. The governor had approved the creation of 464 new posts for the new department.

The changes are part of Jammu and Kashmir’s transition from state to Union Territory after it was stripped of special status under Article 370 on August 5. The state constitution, enacted under Article 370 of the Indian Constitution, was also struck down. Article 35A, which granted the state government the power to define “state subjects” and reserve for them certain rights and privileges, including the right to own land, was repealed.

Parliament passed the Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Act, which lays out the roadmap for this massive administrative overhaul. It lists 153 state laws that are to be repealed and 106 Central laws that have been imposed on the new Union Territories. One of the state laws listed is the Jammu and Kashmir Registration Act, replaced by the Registration Act, 1908, a Central law.

It touches on one of the major changes that have resulted from the August 5 decision: the buying and selling of land in Jammu and Kashmir. Already, it has triggered protests among lawyers of the former state.

From the judiciary to the executive
Under the reorganisation act, clauses in the old state laws that restricted the sale of land to only state subjects were struck down. Land may now be bought even by those considered outsiders to Jammu and Kashmir.

The new registration act also changes the authorities who control the registration of land transactions. Under the state law, the registration of such transactions had to go through the judiciary.

The chief justice of the Jammu and Kashmir High Court had the powers and duties of the inspector general of registrations while the principal district and sessions court judges acted as district registrars. The former state’s law department held administrative control of registrations.

Until the new department is created, additional deputy commissioners will exercise the powers of registrars for revenue and sub-divisional magistrates/ assistant commissioners will do the work of sub-registrars. Pawan Kotwal, financial commissioner for revenue in Jammu and Kashmir, will now be inspector general of registrations.

The transfer of powers from the judiciary to the executive has created some misgivings. “The entire process will be handled by the revenue department alone,” Zayeem Ahmad, a lawyer at the civil court in the Kangan area of central Kashmir’s Ganderbal district. “The level of scrutiny in court registrations is very high. It will not be the same at revenue department.”

‘Loss of transparency’
The most vocal opposition to the transfer of registration powers has come from lawyers in Jammu. On November 1, they went on an indefinite strike against the government’s decision to divest the judiciary of registering powers. The lawyers’ strike is spearheaded by Jammu Bar Association president Abhinav Sharma, who is also a spokesperson for the Bharatiya Janata Party.

According to Sharma, the Central law did act did not specify which department could handle transactions. “Under the act, the government can give the powers of registration to anyone,” he said. “This is just an order issued by the administration whereby they have given the powers of registration to revenue authorities.”

Sharma asserted that judicial oversight of registrations ensured “more transparency” and convenience for the public. “The entire registration process was done under one roof,” he said. “It was convenient for public as well as lawyers.”

On November 21, the lawyers in Jammu threatened to intensify their protest. Sunil Sethi, a BJP spokesperson in Jammu, said that the party’s Jammu and Kashmir president had written to what was then the state administration saying that “registration powers shouldn’t be taken away from judicial officers and given to revenue officials”.

He also said that there had been one round of “negotiations” between the Jammu Bar Association and Geeta Mittal, chief justice of the Jammu and Kashmir High Court. There were initially two issues over which lawyers were on strike, Sethi explained. The first related to the registrations and the second concerned shifting the Jammu branch of the High Court to another location in the region. Earlier this month, the authorities agreed not to shift the court so only the first problem remains.

A different fear in Kashmir
Lawyers in Kashmir have also opposed the decision, although protests against it have been absorbed into an indefinite strike held since August 5. The Srinagar branch of the Jammu and Kashmir Bar Association is protesting against the revocation of the state’s special status as well as the incarceration of at least two of its senior members, detained under the Public Safety Act and sent to jails outside Jammu and Kashmir.

Still, objections to the transfer of registration powers had been made. “We have condemned this decision twice,” said Aijaz Bedar, vice president of the Jammu and Kashmir High Court Bar Association. “We issued two press releases on this decision but the irony is that none of the local newspapers in Kashmir dared to publish them.”

In the Kashmir Valley, the decision has reinforced one of the most acute fears since August 5: that the state’s reorganisation, and the lifting of curbs on the ownership of land, was aimed at introducing demographic changes in the Muslim-majority region. The government would do this by encouraging outside investment and non-local residents to buy property, the fear goes.

“It’s easier to influence a revenue official than a judicial officer,” said a lawyer in Srinagar who did not want to be identified. “I mean, if the government wants to do property transfers on a fast-track basis, it can be done very easily now. Earlier, very few in government had the audacity to influence a judicial official and direct them to register a document.”

Besides, he pointed out, the revenue department would be stretched thin with its new responsibilities, especially until the new appointments for the registration department were made. “Does the government have any idea how occupied these officials are in their primary duties?” demanded the lawyer. “You are basically taking work from someone who already knows and is doing registration, and giving it to someone who will have to learn the process of registration and then carry it out. Even if everything goes smoothly, it will take at least five years for revenue officials to learn and perform the task of registration like it used to be done in the courts.”

Untrained revenue officials would not be able to spot legal gaps in land transfer documents, he contended. “A judicial officer is much more competent in puncturing holes in a sale or mortgage deed because it’s a purely legal document,” he said. “I have seen judges throwing away wrongly-drafted deeds. They are very particular about every single detail or clause in the deed. I would be surprised if a revenue official maintained the same level of scrutiny.”

Since November 1, the administration of the union territory of Jammu and Kashmir has called revenue officers to several orientation programmes on the Registration Act, 1908.

An old idea
In 2013, the state government of Jammu and Kashmir, then a coalition between National Conference and the Congress, had considered handing over registration powers to the revenue department.

“The matter never reached a consensus and as a result we dropped the idea,” said Abdul Rahim Rather, who served as finance minister in that government.

According to Rather, the idea never went beyond the “discussion stage” and was dropped after objections were raised in various circles. “It was just discussed whether it would be right if we kept a separate registration department because judicial officers have other work, too,” said Rather. “In many states of India, the department of registration is separate. But when there were objections from various quarters, including lawyers, we shelved the idea. We didn’t want any controversy that time.”

Rather, who is among the many political leaders under house arrest since August 5, avoided commenting on the government’s decision to push through the transfer of registration powers. “I don’t know what lines the government is thinking on,” he said.

More red tape
Lawyers are partly aggrieved because they could lose a chunk of their income.

“Sixty per cent of a lawyer’s income at the district or tehsil level used to come from the registration of documents,” said Zayim Ahmad. “Today, they have handed over the registration powers to the revenue department. Tomorrow, they can designate some revenue officials to draft immovable property deeds. What will be our role then?”

Abhinav Sharma in Jammu was less worried on that score. “A sale or mortgage deed is a legal document and a layman cannot draft it on its own,” he said. “Lawyers will have the same role as before but now they may have to make rounds of the revenue department with their clients. Earlier, it was easier for a lawyer because everything used to take place in court.”

Mubashir Ahmad, a lawyer at the tehsil court in Pampore in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district, said the added trips to the revenue department could mean clients would have to pay lawyers higher fees.

He also feared the changes had widened the “scope for corruption”. “We might well see a kind of broker system emerging at these registration departments,” he said. “A client doesn’t have time to make multiple rounds of government departments. So, there might be people who will get the registration done in return for a fee.”

Either way, he concluded, the new system promised to cause “inconvenience for the public.”
https://scroll.in/article/943871/in...ister-land-transactions-and-its-sparked-anger
 
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Great.

I hope all the Kashmir pandits get their land back and repatriate back to their homes.
 

Good discussion above, recommend to watch.

The simple question; "will India win over Kashmiri people" had a unanimous simple answer; "no".
 
The simple question; "will India win over Kashmiri people" had a unanimous simple answer; "no".

Now to Reality:

1) Indians don't care about the 'simple answer; "no"

2) Pakistan is not getting Indian Kashmir

3) India will not allow Kashmir be a separate country breaking away from them.

So.

Stop wasting your life away, however if you insist, by all means dig your own grave...
 
Now to Reality:

1) Indians don't care about the 'simple answer; "no"

2) Pakistan is not getting Indian Kashmir

3) India will not allow Kashmir be a separate country breaking away from them.

So.

Stop wasting your life away, however if you insist, by all means dig your own grave...

What burnt you?

You are an indian and you don't care about simple answer "no". So ok.

Why worried about my life and grave?
 
India’s Internet shutdown in Kashmir is the longest ever in a democracy

NEW DELHI — Each morning at 8:15 a.m., a train pulls out of the station in the Kashmiri capital of Srinagar. Hundreds of passengers cram the cars for the 70-mile journey, packed so tightly they can barely move. Nearly all will return the same day.

Kashmiris call the train the Internet Express. It shuttles people out of the Kashmir Valley — where India has shut down access to the Internet for more than four months — to the nearest town where they can get online.

On a recent foggy morning, it was full of people hoping to renew driver’s licenses, apply for passports, fill out admissions forms and check email. They included 16-year-old Khushboo Yaqoob, who was rushing to register for a medical school exam. “If I had any other option, I wouldn’t be here,” she said.

The shutdown, which entered its 134th day Monday, is now the longest ever imposed in a democracy, according to Access Now, an international advocacy group that tracks Internet suspensions. Only authoritarian regimes such as China and Myanmar have cut off the Internet for longer.

India imposed the shutdown on Aug. 5, when authorities revoked Kashmir’s autonomy and statehood, snapped all communications and detained the region’s mainstream politicians. Landlines and calls on some mobile phones were subsequently restored, but the Internet remains blocked — a move Indian authorities say is necessary to maintain security in the restive territory claimed by both India and Pakistan.

The 7 million people in the Kashmir Valley were abruptly returned to a pre-Internet era. They are unable to operate online businesses or read this article. In early December, they began disappearing from WhatsApp because accounts are automatically deleted after 120 days of inactivity. Journalists rely on a government-run center with just 10 computers to file their stories. The Kashmir Chamber of Commerce estimates $1.4 billion in losses already.

“The original idea that was asserted by the government for shutting down communications was to prohibit unrest, but that really cannot be the argument after four months,” said David Kaye, the United Nations special rapporteur on freedom of expression. He called the blockage “draconian” and “worse than collective punishment.”

Raman Jit Singh Chima, Asia-Pacific policy director of Access Now, said it was “unprecedented” for a democracy to block access to the Internet for such an extended time and for such a large population. U.S. Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) introduced a resolution in Congress last week urging India to lift the ban.

Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar has defended the shutdown as a way to disrupt activity by militant groups that India accuses Pakistan of supporting. “How do I cut off communications between the terrorists and their masters on the one hand, but keep the Internet open for other people?” he asked during an interview with Politico in September.

A government official in Delhi said the threat of terrorists misusing data connectivity continues. The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment on security matters, said the government was trying to find ways to ease hardships caused by the lack of Internet service. A spokeswoman for India’s Ministry for Home Affairs did not respond to questions.

In Srinagar, the local government set up centers with Internet access to help students seeking to register for exams and says 100,000 students have used them. But for most Kashmiris, the nearest place where broadband Internet is readily accessible is the town of Banihal in the Jammu region bordering the Kashmir Valley. They have been making the journey since train service resumed Nov. 11.

It was Yaqoob’s second trip in as many days. The day before, the Internet wasn’t working even in Banihal. She had attempted to access the Internet at the district headquarters near her home — where four computers are available for a population of 1 million people — but the lines were too long.

In Banihal, Yaqoob and her mother waited for three hours outside an Internet cafe before their turn came. The teenager was submitting a form for a competitive exam for which she had been studying for two years, and the deadline was fast approaching. When she finally managed to submit the form, she burst into tears of relief.

“I was not sure I would ever be able to fill it out,” she said. “Because of the Internet ban, I could see my dreams shattering.”

Shutting down the Internet has become a regular feature of law enforcement in India, which has the dubious distinction of imposing the most blackouts in the world. Officials routinely block access to contain rumors they say could lead to violence or to quell protests. Last week, authorities switched off the Internet in Guwahati, a city in northeast India, after violent protests against a new citizenship law.

Kashmir is the region most affected. According to the Freedom Law Centre, it accounts for more than 60 percent of the blackouts in the country. In 2016, violent protests broke out in Kashmir after the killing of popular militant Burhan Wani. Mobile Internet connections were suspended for more than four months.

The current shutdown has paralyzed online businesses. The Kashmir Box, the most prominent e-commerce venture in the region, ships local produce and handicrafts to 50 countries. Since August, it has been unable to take new orders or fulfill pending ones. Founder Muheet Mehraj, 29, estimates the company has lost $420,000.

“I feel terrible,” he said. “There can’t be a future for the company if you don’t know there will be Internet.”

In mid-November, the state government began to provide select businesses with Internet access on certain conditions: They cannot access social media or allow WiFi connections, and they must hand over all content to security agencies on demand. Mehraj’s application for Internet access has been pending for two weeks.

Parvaiz Ahmad Bhat, 28, is a local YouTube sensation famous for his popular satirical show Kashmiri Kalkharabs, or Crazy Kashmiris. He started posting the amateur videos two years ago; he now has nearly 500,000 subscribers. Before the shutdown, Bhat’s group was making more than $1,500 every month from advertisements.

“Now I worry that I will have to start from scratch,” he said. Trying to upload new videos is not only difficult, but also probably futile. “My audience doesn’t have Internet access, so what’s the point of making new work?”

It’s not only businesses that are hurting. As a doctoral candidate in physics at the University of Kashmir, Muhammad Shunaid is required to submit papers to international journals. To find out whether a paper had been accepted, he was forced to travel 300 miles to the neighboring region of Ladakh just to check his email. (At that time, there was no train service to Banihal.)

The journal wanted to publish the paper and had replied with questions. But then a new problem arose. An expensive software program that Shunaid used in the research had expired, and the renewal instructions had been sent to his institute’s email — which was now inaccessible. “We had to get people to call the company in Denmark and inform them of our situation,” said Shunaid, 29. A problem that “would have taken two minutes took us a month.”

Doctors say the shutdown has made it more difficult to care for patients. Omar Salim, a leading urologist in Srinagar, said his abiding regret is not being able to consult with colleagues on a particularly difficult case.

In July, Salim saw a patient who had advanced-stage pancreatic cancer. He reached out to fellow specialists in Mumbai to consult on possible treatments. Then communication snapped in August. The patient died in November.

The patient might not have survived in any case, Salim said, but with access to information, at least he would be assured that he had tried everything possible.

“What hurts is when [the government claims] things are normal,” he said. “This is not normal.”

With the Internet shutdown showing no sign of ending, Kashmiris are resigning themselves to more trips on the Internet Express. Yaqoob, the student, will need to check her email to get details about her medical exam. Shunaid, the researcher, has another paper to submit. Bhat, the YouTube star, says he will probably have to find a job that doesn’t depend on the Internet.

“It’s like someone has pushed our lives back to the Dark Ages,” he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0693ea-1dfc-11ea-977a-15a6710ed6da_story.html

Another article in Washington Post. The moment curfew is lifted all eyes will be on Kashmir and any protest will be met by force from Government and we can see how Government uses its force in its latest demonstration in Delhi university.
 
Kashmir economy suffered loss of Rs 17,878 cr in 4 months after Article 370 abrogation

The Kashmir economy suffered loss to the tune of Rs 17,878 crore in four months of restrictions and shutdown in the valley following abrogation of Article 370 and creation of two union territories out of Jammu and Kashmir, a trade body said on Tuesday.

Releasing a comprehensive sector-wise report on losses due to disturbance after the August 5 announcement by Home Minister Amit Shah, the Kashmir Chamber of Commerce and Industry (KCCI) said the losses have been assessed based on Jammu and Kashmir’s gross domestic product of 2017-18. “The study has focused on the 10 districts of Kashmir Valley comprising 55 per cent of the total population of Jammu and Kashmir. A time span of 120 days has been assumed for the calculations. As per this method, Kashmir’s economy has suffered a loss of Rs 17,878.18 crores,” the report said.

An assessment based on actual number of unit holders and persons engaged in each sector, job and financial losses suffered by them was undertaken, it said. “For example, the tourism sector has been broken into its various sub-sectors like tour operators (inbound and outbound), house boats, hotels, tourist transport, shikaras, adventure sports and other allied sectors. Efforts were made to make the report as inclusive as possible. The losses suffered by pony wallahs, rafting groups to photographers and guides have also been assessed,” the report added.

KCCI said the present disruption has resulted in loss of jobs of lakhs of people.

Borrowers of financial institutions have lost their capacity to fulfil their commitments and a substantial number of accounts are likely to turn bankrupt, many business establishments have closed down or are contemplating closure, it said. “The sectors directly dependent on internet like information technology and e-commerce have been ruined. The government intervention in the horticulture sector for which Rs 8,000 crore was earmarked for purchase of apples has come a cropper and caused price turmoil and panic sales,” it added.

KCCI said no serious exercise has been undertaken to either assess the losses or to support the helpless farmers. “Tourism sector is in shambles. Artisans and weavers are jobless. With estimated losses of around Rs 2,520 crore, manufacturing is in tatters,” it said.
https://indianexpress.com/article/i...nths-after-article-370-abrogation-jk-6172096/
 
Govt Orders Immediate Withdrawal of Over 7,000 Paramilitary Troops from Kashmir Valley

Four months after the abrogation of Article 370 that revoked Jammu and Kashmir's special status, government sources said a decision has been taken to recall troops in the Valley with immediate effect. Close to 70 companies (or 70,000 personnel) of the paramilitary will be recalled, they added.

The decision was taken after a full security review of the Kashmir situation on Tuesday. The high-level review meeting on Jammu and Kashmir discussed the security situation in the newly carved out Union Territory besides development matters, said officials.

Communication from the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) to the chief secretary and the home secretary of Jammu and Kashmir as well as the Srinagar Director General of Police said that it has been decided to withdraw 72 companies of Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) "with immediate effect from their locations and revert to their respective locations". One such company has about 100 personnel.

These units drawn from the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF), Border Security Force (BSF), Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) and the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) were sent to the Kashmir Valley after the Centre abrogated Article 370 provisions in Jammu and Kashmir.

The meeting was chaired by National Security Advisor Ajit Doval and attended among others by Lieutenant Governor of Jammu and Kashmir GC Murmu, Union Home Secretary Ajay K Bhalla, senior security advisor in the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) on the UT K Vijay Kumar, among others.

Union Home Minister Amit Shah also joined the meeting for sometime, the officials said. They said Kumar was scheduled to travel to the Union Territory soon to take stock of the situation.

As per the order issued on Monday, while 24 companies of the CRPF are being withdrawn, 12 each of the BSF, CISF, ITBP and SSB are being sent back. About 20 such companies were withdrawn from the valley early this month.

The erstwhile state was put under an unprecedented security lockdown after the BJP-led central government revoked Article 370 of the Constitution on August 5.

Severe restrictions were imposed in the state, particularly in the Valley, which included deployment of additional troops to the Muslim-majority region in the lead-up, imposition of curfew on parts of the territory, shutting down of all forms of telecommunications and arrest of all mainstream political leaders.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/g...oops-from-kashmir-valley-sources-2435393.html
 
Let's hope that more military personal gets moved out of J & K like this pretty soon. Landlines, mobiles are working and internet is working at few kiosks , let's hope that internet improves too.
 
Let's hope that more military personal gets moved out of J & K like this pretty soon. Landlines, mobiles are working and internet is working at few kiosks , let's hope that internet improves too.

So after months still no internet? Has your government given any timeframe of when these services will be restored? What are they scared of? Kashmir is now Switzerland right?
 
So after months still no internet? Has your government given any timeframe of when these services will be restored? What are they scared of? Kashmir is now Switzerland right?

First of all when we say there is no internet technically we mean there is no mobile internet, no broadband internet available. So, if some one wants to access internet they can't do it in their home computer/laptop or in their mobile.

But there are internet kiosks established all over J & K in every district nook & corner.

More info at : https://www.wionews.com/india-news/...ery-district-of-kashmir-to-help-people-255928

https://www.news18.com/news/india/c...facilitate-filing-of-gst-returns-2393005.html

(The above links r from october/november)


Secondly , govt. hasn't given any time frame to restore internet. Modi govt. is not scared of any thing, had they been scared they wouldn't have scrapped article 370 (which no govt. could even dream of scrapping in the last 70 years), they wouldn't have brought CAB, they wouldn't have promised ram-mandir construction in ayodhya.

So people can have access to internet but yes they have stand in lines/queues to access it. So technically there is no curfew !
 
The Indians who were supporting the curfew in Kashmir are now crying after losing internet for one day.

They plot and plan and He too plans...
 
The Indians who were supporting the curfew in Kashmir are now crying after losing internet for one day.

They plot and plan and He too plans...

but for kashmiri indians he planned for at least 6 months ban but for rest of other indians he planned for just 1 day
 
First of all when we say there is no internet technically we mean there is no mobile internet, no broadband internet available. So, if some one wants to access internet they can't do it in their home computer/laptop or in their mobile.

But there are internet kiosks established all over J & K in every district nook & corner.

More info at : https://www.wionews.com/india-news/...ery-district-of-kashmir-to-help-people-255928

https://www.news18.com/news/india/c...facilitate-filing-of-gst-returns-2393005.html

(The above links r from october/november)


Secondly , govt. hasn't given any time frame to restore internet. Modi govt. is not scared of any thing, had they been scared they wouldn't have scrapped article 370 (which no govt. could even dream of scrapping in the last 70 years), they wouldn't have brought CAB, they wouldn't have promised ram-mandir construction in ayodhya.

So people can have access to internet but yes they have stand in lines/queues to access it. So technically there is no curfew !

lol @ kiosks. I assume there are thousands of such kiosks open so all Kashmiris can run down the street, email or video call their friends and run back.

RSS cowardly government is trying to hide what Kahsmiris think from the world. The longer you oppress them the more they will fight back.
 
Mobile Internet Back In Kargil After 145 Days Of Curbs In J&K And Ladakh

145 days after restrictions were imposed and internet communications were blocked in Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh, mobile internet was restored this morning in Kargil, part of the union territory of Ladakh. Internet services, however, are yet to be restored in Kashmir Valley.
The restoration of mobile internet connections comes over four months after the government revoked Jammu and Kashmir's decades-old special privileges and split it into two union territories: Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh.

The services were restored because of complete normalcy returning to Kargil district, with no untoward incident taking place over the past four months, officials said. They said local religious leaders have appealed to people not to misuse the facility. Broadband connections were already functional in Kargil.

The government had said that the special status move would help ensure that people of the state get the same constitutional benefits as the rest of the country and spur development.

To prevent any backlash, the centre also imposed massive security restrictions and took measures that included arresting politicians, evacuating tourists, posting extra troops and blocking phone and internet lines.

Some of those curbs have been slowly relaxed, but mobile and internet communications in the Kashmir Valley are largely still blocked.
 
lol @ kiosks. I assume there are thousands of such kiosks open so all Kashmiris can run down the street, email or video call their friends and run back.

RSS cowardly government is trying to hide what Kahsmiris think from the world. The longer you oppress them the more they will fight back.

Kargil is muslim majority area & let's see what happens as internet is restored and there is no curfew wat so ever !
 
The curfew will never be completely lifted and the state will have population changes, much like other Muslims states in India and Kashmir as the world knows it will cease to exist (see Hyderabad).
 
What is the population of Kargil?

Nearly 1.8 L in 2019 with below demographics

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The curfew will never be completely lifted and the state will have population changes, much like other Muslims states in India and Kashmir as the world knows it will cease to exist (see Hyderabad).


I have been living in hyderabad since 10 years & working in software engg. since. What u said is true, the percentage of muslims of hyderabad before year 2000 (before IT boom) was close to 45 % but hindus have migrated from rest of india and now the percentage of hindus is 63 and muslims as 33 bcoz of immense migration of hindus from other states.

Infact these migrants even contain like 30% of hyderabad population now !
 
I have been living in hyderabad since 10 years & working in software engg. since. What u said is true, the percentage of muslims of hyderabad before year 2000 (before IT boom) was close to 45 % but hindus have migrated from rest of india and now the percentage of hindus is 63 and muslims as 33 bcoz of immense migration of hindus from other states.

Infact these migrants even contain like 30% of hyderabad population now !

Majority of the investment will be based around Jammu, in fact lands identified for companies to invest in J&K are mostly within jammu region https://www.google.com/amp/s/thewire.in/business/jammu-and-kashmir-land-investment/amp/.Obviously the hindu population in jammu will increase but there won't be considerable change of demographics in kashmir region.
 
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I have been living in hyderabad since 10 years & working in software engg. since. What u said is true, the percentage of muslims of hyderabad before year 2000 (before IT boom) was close to 45 % but hindus have migrated from rest of india and now the percentage of hindus is 63 and muslims as 33 bcoz of immense migration of hindus from other states.

Infact these migrants even contain like 30% of hyderabad population now !

I know....but I did not just mean migration, I meant the geographical destruction of a state and manipulation of state boundaries to form a new state.
 
NEW DELHI: Autho*rities in occupied Kashmir will restore text messaging services in the disputed region on Wednesday, almost five months after India’s government downgraded its semi-autonomy and imposed a strict security and communications lockdown, an official said on Tuesday.

Local government spokesman Rohit Kansal said the decision was made after a review of the situation.

He said broadband internet services in government-run hospitals will also be restored.

The curbs on broadband internet and mobile internet services for other users will remain.

Authorities fear that insurgents and separatists demanding independence from Indian rule will use the internet to provoke protests in the region that could morph into large-scale street demonstrations.

Tensions in occupied Kashmir have escalated since New Delhi’s surprise decision in early August to downgrade the regions semi-autonomy. India followed the move by sending in tens of thousands of extra troops, detaining thousands of people and blocking cellphone and internet services.

The government had earlier said the restrictions on communication services were in the interest of maintenance of public order.

Some communications services, like post-paid and landline phones, were restored in October in a phased manner.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1525610/india-to-restore-text-messaging-services-in-occupied-kashmir
 
Broadband high-speed internet connectivity restored at 80 government hospitals

Broadband internet connectivity was restored at 80 government hospitals in the Kashmir Valley on Thursday, officials said.

“Broadband high-speed internet connectivity restored at 80 government hospitals, including health centres and offices linked to the department of health, across Kashmir,” an official said.

Internet services were suspended in the Valley on the night of August 4, the day before the Centre announced abrogation of Article 370 provisions providing special status to Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcation of the erstwhile State into Union Territories.

Medical Superintendent of Chest Disease hospital in Srinagar Dr Saleem Tak confirmed that internet started working in the facility on Thursday "which is a big relief to us as well as for patients".

An official of the Jammu and Kashmir administration said, "Broadband high-speed internet connectivity was restored at 80 government hospitals, including health centres and offices linked to the department of health, across Kashmir."

The internet services were to start at the government-run hospitals from midnight of December 31 as a new year gift to the people in the Valley but it could not resume due to some technical issues, officials said.

Tak said restoration of internet facilities will help hospitals to update their patient care records, especially about centrally-sponsored schemes like the Ayushman Bharat.

"It will help poor patients to receive medical facilities free of cost," he told PTI.

"Now we can consult other doctors across India and the world for seeking guidance related to patient care and also updating our system for which internet is necessary," he said.

Principal of Government Medical College in Srinagar Pervez Shah also confirmed that internet was working at seven hospitals out of the eight associated facilities.

Work was on for restoration on internet services in one nursing home, he added.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-in-kashmir-restored/articleshow/73069193.cms


https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...itals-restored-in-kashmir/article30458664.ece
 
Don't go by this article, people in Jammu and Ladakh always wanted to separate from Kashmir. Heck, Jammuites protested on being kept together with Kashmir in a UT.

The business slowdown is real though, tourism suffered heavily in Kashmir and whichever ancillary industry from Jammu and Ladakh was connected to it, has also suffered a lot. Be it, cabbies, truck walas, or even the fruit wallah's , they all suffered economically but their number is also small.

The biggest beneficiaries btw are people from Ladakh, they will benefit a lot. A very good place for Investors right now....
 
Don't go by this article, people in Jammu and Ladakh always wanted to separate from Kashmir. Heck, Jammuites protested on being kept together with Kashmir in a UT.

The business slowdown is real though, tourism suffered heavily in Kashmir and whichever ancillary industry from Jammu and Ladakh was connected to it, has also suffered a lot. Be it, cabbies, truck walas, or even the fruit wallah's , they all suffered economically but their number is also small.

The biggest beneficiaries btw are people from Ladakh, they will benefit a lot. A very good place for Investors right now....

Lol don't go by the article instead I should believe some random online guy. Ya they wanted but why they weeping now which is visible clearly because they are now realising the mistake they did.
And if you take the population in account the population of Ladakh is 3 lakh and that of jammu is 6 lakh but the population of Kashmir alone is 1.5 crore and nobody wanted in Kashmir to scrap it. Which type of democracy is this that you murdered the economy of 1.5 crore to benefit a population of 8 lakh?
 
Lol don't go by the article instead I should believe some random online guy. Ya they wanted but why they weeping now which is visible clearly because they are now realising the mistake they did.
And if you take the population in account the population of Ladakh is 3 lakh and that of jammu is 6 lakh but the population of Kashmir alone is 1.5 crore and nobody wanted in Kashmir to scrap it. Which type of democracy is this that you murdered the economy of 1.5 crore to benefit a population of 8 lakh?

Are you even a permanent resident of Jammu and Kashmir, the population of Kathua district of jammu division is over 6 lakhs.
 
Lol don't go by the article instead I should believe some random online guy. Ya they wanted but why they weeping now which is visible clearly because they are now realising the mistake they did.
And if you take the population in account the population of Ladakh is 3 lakh and that of jammu is 6 lakh but the population of Kashmir alone is 1.5 crore and nobody wanted in Kashmir to scrap it. Which type of democracy is this that you murdered the economy of 1.5 crore to benefit a population of 8 lakh?

Theek hai bhai, go by the article
 
Are you even a permanent resident of Jammu and Kashmir, the population of Kathua district of jammu division is over 6 lakhs.
I am talking about jammu district from where these fools tooks rallies in support of scrapping 370
 
I am talking about jammu district from where these fools tooks rallies in support of scrapping 370

They are neither fools nor are they unhappy, they are happy that Kashmiri politicians will not rule them anymore, nearly 75 years of political slavery is over for them and for people of Ladakh.

The ones in the article who are unhappy are the ones who faced economic losses since Aug, it's at best temporary. They will have to find new clients or new avenues to sustain.

After the strained relationship between India and Pak in 2019, the trade took a beating, so the Pak exporters of fruits to India or even Importers of raw cotton / Yarn from India would have faced similar losses and hence would be unhappy, that would not mean the general populace of Pakistan wants to give Modi a hug.

So relax, Indians outside of Kashmir are happy with scrapping of Art 370, it's bad for Kashmir valley, that's it.
 
Lol don't go by the article instead I should believe some random online guy. Ya they wanted but why they weeping now which is visible clearly because they are now realising the mistake they did.
And if you take the population in account the population of Ladakh is 3 lakh and that of jammu is 6 lakh but the population of Kashmir alone is 1.5 crore and nobody wanted in Kashmir to scrap it. Which type of democracy is this that you murdered the economy of 1.5 crore to benefit a population of 8 lakh?

I think he is Kashmiri too. but Hindu. you can speak in the language and know..
 
I think he is Kashmiri too. but Hindu. you can speak in the language and know..

He can't be a Kashmiri if he thinks Jammu district has only 6 lakh population. Heck the traffic in Jammu is worse than B'lore or Mumbai
 
He can't be a Kashmiri if he thinks Jammu district has only 6 lakh population. Heck the traffic in Jammu is worse than B'lore or Mumbai

I think I have seen his posts in Kashmiri language just like I remember yours and [MENTION=137989]hussain123[/MENTION]

bias will always be there..
 
He can't be a Kashmiri if he thinks Jammu district has only 6 lakh population. Heck the traffic in Jammu is worse than B'lore or Mumbai
Please tell me the population of jammu district not jammu province?Because whole jammu province does not support scrapping 370
 
They are neither fools nor are they unhappy, they are happy that Kashmiri politicians will not rule them anymore, nearly 75 years of political slavery is over for them and for people of Ladakh.

The ones in the article who are unhappy are the ones who faced economic losses since Aug, it's at best temporary. They will have to find new clients or new avenues to sustain.

After the strained relationship between India and Pak in 2019, the trade took a beating, so the Pak exporters of fruits to India or even Importers of raw cotton / Yarn from India would have faced similar losses and hence would be unhappy, that would not mean the general populace of Pakistan wants to give Modi a hug.

So relax, Indians outside of Kashmir are happy with scrapping of Art 370, it's bad for Kashmir valley, that's it.

Indians outside J&K are happy yes. But the people who mattered most with this decision are not. And that is why we are seeing rallies from jammu, Ladakh against BJP. People feel they are decieved just as demonetization killed economy of India
 
Indians outside J&K are happy yes. But the people who mattered most with this decision are not. And that is why we are seeing rallies from jammu, Ladakh against BJP. People feel they are decieved just as demonetization killed economy of India

People in Jammu / Leh are happy... In kargil / Kashmir valley they are not, simply put bulk of Muslims are not happy but Hindus and Buddhists are...

Demonetization has got nothing do with Article 370, it was a failed initiative
 
People in Jammu / Leh are happy... In kargil / Kashmir valley they are not, simply put bulk of Muslims are not happy but Hindus and Buddhists are...

Demonetization has got nothing do with Article 370, it was a failed initiative
How can you justify it when Muslims are in majority in 17 districts of 22. That also means bulk of population is unhappy but still you scrap it because the minorities who support abrogation are hindu??
 
How can you justify it when Muslims are in majority in 17 districts of 22. That also means bulk of population is unhappy but still you scrap it because the minorities who support abrogation are hindu??

You have moved from Jammuites and Ladhakis are fools / not happy with 370 to why 370 was removed. That's progress.

As to your other question, why the heck should people from Jammu and Ladakh suffer if Kashmiris want to fight, they have been subjugated by Kashmiri political thuggery for 75 years, not any more.
 
You have moved from Jammuites and Ladhakis are fools / not happy with 370 to why 370 was removed. That's progress.

As to your other question, why the heck should people from Jammu and Ladakh suffer if Kashmiris want to fight, they have been subjugated by Kashmiri political thuggery for 75 years, not any more.
It is not if scrapping 370 is benefitting them anyway like job share etc? They were better than this before.
 
It is not if scrapping 370 is benefitting them anyway like job share etc? They were better than this before.

No way.... Watch how Ladakh and Jammu grow in next 10 to 15 years as long as the politicians are honest...

"yum aisakh lithanavmit wanuktany, asi kor panas ti fanaa, baey karhaw yemen ti "
 
No way.... Watch how Ladakh and Jammu grow in next 10 to 15 years as long as the politicians are honest...

"yum aisakh lithanavmit wanuktany, asi kor panas ti fanaa, baey karhaw yemen ti "

That will be good thing if regions grow .
Yem aes ne kase lithnamut eman aes last time BJP govt team kya kornak.. Yem che sarey choor chaey pdp, nc, BJP, cong
 
That will be good thing if regions grow .
Yem aes ne kase lithnamut eman aes last time BJP govt team kya kornak.. Yem che sarey choor chaey pdp, nc, BJP, cong

Barabar, yum chi sari choor.... Waise tohi katik chiv rozanwale, bu aus srinagar zamut... Wany chus naebar...
 
I feel for you that u had to leave ur homes reason which I don't know but you are always welcome back.

Bu guas na wapas zahan tan peth, I had a lot of friends there, used to play cricket in Eidgah... Don't know what's happened now, how are they etc...

Waise kyoth chi mahol aaz kal, chilay kalan cha laugmut
 
Bu guas na wapas zahan tan peth, I had a lot of friends there, used to play cricket in Eidgah... Don't know what's happened now, how are they etc...

Waise kyoth chi mahol aaz kal, chilay kalan cha laugmut
Normalcy che retain gasan.. Sardi che kaher warya zyade.. Ba chus paane delhi manz job search karan.
How old were you then?
 
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Normalcy che retain gasan.. Sardi che kaher warya zyade.. Ba chus paane delhi manz job search karan.
How old were you then?

Almost 10 at that time.... Sardi manz aus chutti aasan, ghar bihith aaes gindaan....

Su aus alag mahol waise, aazkal aise kashir ti waryah change gomut
 
Almost 10 at that time.... Sardi manz aus chutti aasan, ghar bihith aaes gindaan....

Su aus alag mahol waise, aazkal aise kashir ti waryah change gomut

Aa change che yewane.. Sardi ti che jaan... Tuhe kya chew watsp no.. Fb id etc ba karov tuhe add kya pata samkhow ti kune saat
 
Envoys From EU, Australia To Skip Government's 2-Day Tour Of J&K: Sources

Sources have told NDTV that the envoys from EU do not want a "guided tour" of Jammu and Kashmir and will go later.
New Delhi:


Countries from the European Union will not be part of the foreign delegates' team visiting Jammu and Kashmir tomorrow at the Centre's invitation. Diplomatic sources from Europe told NDTV that the envoys do not want a "guided tour" of Jammu and Kashmir and would visit later and meet the people they want to meet.

Government sources told NDTV that envoys of the European Union have welcomed the idea of a trip to Jammu and Kashmir, but many of them said it was short notice this time and they look forward to going at a later date. The situation on the ground in Jammu and Kashmir has "vastly improved", they added.

Parliamentarians from the European Union had visited Jammu and Kashmir in October - three months after the Centre scrapped the special status of the state granted under Article 370 of the Constitution and bifurcated it into two union territories. During the visit - meant to check the ground situation -- they met the locals and were briefed by the security forces. That visit was in a private capacity.

A similar schedule has been planned for the two-day tour that begins tomorrow, which would be attended by 15 envoys from the Latin America and Africa. Diplomats from Australia and several Gulf nations, who were expected to go, have dropped out due to what they called "scheduling" reasons.

"EU envoys don't want a guided tour of Kashmir. We want to meet people freely of our own choosing," a source told NDTV. The official said some of the envoys are also keen on meeting the three former chief ministers --- Farooq and Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti - who have been in detention since the Centre announced the move on August 5.

The confinement of Kashmir's political leaders and the ban on internet, which have run into the sixth month, are among the restrictions that have raised concerns abroad. Several nations and the US House of Representatives have referred to the matter.

It is to allay these concerns that the government has arranged for the two-day visit, home ministry sources had told NDTV.

The restrictions -- put in place ahead of Union minister Amit Shah's announcement in parliament on August 5 about the government's move -- were meant to prevent any law and order issue, the government has said.
In October, the government had allowed 23 lawmakers from the European Union to visit Jammu and Kashmir -- a move that left the opposition furious. Till then, the opposition had not been allowed to visit the state. A delegation led by Congress's Rahul Gandhi had been turned away from the Srinagar airport.

In Parliament, the ministry of home affairs had explained the move, saying: "Such exchanges promote deeper people to people contact and ultimately it feeds into the larger relationship which any two countries would like to develop".

Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/env...tour-of-j-k-sources-2160886?pfrom=home-livetv
 
Kashmir: India top court orders review of longest internet shutdown

India's Supreme Court has given the government a week to review its suspension of internet services in Indian-administered Kashmir.

The region has not had access to the internet for more than 150 days, India's longest such shutdown.

The government suspended internet, mobile phone and landline services in Kashmir before stripping it of partial autonomy on 5 August.

The court was responding to a clutch of petitions challenging the restrictions.

"Complete curb of internet must be considered by the state only as an extraordinary measure," said Justice NV Ramana, reading out the judgement on Friday, adding that access to the internet was part of the right to freedom of speech and expression guaranteed by the constitution.

The three-judge bench also ruled that the indefinite suspension of internet services is "impermissible" and such restrictions can "be temporary only".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51058759
 
Kashmiris happy with the current situation: Vietnam envoy backs Centre‘s efforts in J&K

Vietnam’s envoy was among 15 head of foreign missions who embarked on the visit, the other countries being the United States, South Korea, Bangladesh, Maldives, Fiji, Norway, Togo, Morocco, Argentina, Niger, Nigeria, Philippines, Guyana, Zambia and Peru


In significant remarks, Vietnam’s Ambassador to India, Pham Sanh Chau, said on Friday that normalcy was being restored in the Kashmir Valley and that people were largely happy with the current situation. The remarks by the Vietnamese envoy, one of the 15 foreign envoys on a two-day visit to Jammu and Kashmir, came on the final day of the tour that began on Thursday.

“We have interacted with different groups and feeling from those groups is that they are very happy with the current situation,” the Vietnamese Ambassador was quoted as saying by news agency Asian News International (ANI).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vietnam's Ambassador Pham Sanh Chau, one of 15 foreign envoys visiting J&K: I see normalcy in daily life of the people, which is a very positive sign. We have interacted with different groups and feeling from those groups is that they are very happy with the current situation. <a href="https://t.co/oELUx6rxH7">pic.twitter.com/oELUx6rxH7</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1215578758330994689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Ambassador, however, added that the group of envoys were not a “fact-finding delegation" neither were they “judges of the international court,” ANI reported him as saying.


“We don't have that mandate, so we just came and observed and have assessment of our own. I see signs of happiness on faces of people when I talk to them,” he said.

Vietnam’s envoy was among 15 head of foreign missions who embarked on the visit, the other countries being the United States, South Korea, Bangladesh, Maldives, Fiji, Norway, Togo, Morocco, Argentina, Niger, Nigeria, Philippines, Guyana, Zambia and Peru.

Explaining the basis of selecting the cohort of foreign envoys, Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said at his weekly briefing on Thursday that the government had been receiving requests from several foreign missions who had wanted to visit J&K following the abrogation of Article 370 in August.

“The objective of the visit was for the envoys to see firsthand, the efforts which have been made by the government to normalize the situation and also basically to see how things have progressed and how the normalcy has been restored to a large extent since the developments related to Article 370 in August and there have been several steps which have been taken by local administration towards that objective,” Kumar said.

Link: indiatvnews.com/news/india/kashmiris-happy-current-situation-vietnam-envoy-backs-centre-efforts-jammu-kashmir-article-370-578192
 
Mr Vietnam isn't a Kashmir native, he just came back from a vacation sponsored and curated by the Indian govt. It's funny how just a few days trip from a foreign diplomat can negate years of academic and journalistic research on Kashmir.
 
Mr Vietnam isn't a Kashmir native, he just came back from a vacation sponsored and curated by the Indian govt. It's funny how just a few days trip from a foreign diplomat can negate years of academic and journalistic research on Kashmir.

He did his job for which he came here. Whether or not his assessment is correct is debatable.
 
WASHINGTON: The chief US diplomat for South Asian affairs, Alice Wells, has expressed concern over continued detentions and internet-shutdown in occupied Kashmir, days before her visit to New Delhi for bilateral talks.

“Closely following US ambassador to India and other foreign diplomats’ recent trip to Jammu & Kashmir. Important step,” she wrote in a tweet posted on the official website of the US State Department’s Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs.

“We remain concerned by detention of political leaders and residents, and internet restrictions. We look forward to a return to normalcy,” she added.

Kashmir has no internet access for more than 150 days.

Wells says Washington closely following diplomats’ visit to Valley

Ms Wells will reach New Delhi on Jan 15 on a three-day visit that includes talks with senior Indian officials on bilateral and regional issues. She will then proceed to Islamabad on a similar, three-day visit that will begin on Jan 19.

On Thursday, the Modi government arranged a “guided tour” for some New Delhi-based diplomats to the occupied valley — the first after India scrapped the region’s autonomous status five months ago.

“European Union envoys declined an invitation, apparently because the visit did not include meetings with three former chief ministers, who continue to be in detention and whose parties dominated Kashmiri politics,” reported an American broadcaster, Voice of America.

But US ambassador to India, Kenneth Juster, accompanied the group, which met Indian military officials, politicians and journalists selected by Indian security services.

India showcased the visit to support its claim that normalcy is returning to the troubled region, where a strict clampdown imposed in August paralysed life as authorities imposed a dusk to dawn curfew. Indian authorities also imposed unprecedented restrictions on both social and conventional media and disconnected cellphones. Indian security forces also arrested hundreds of Kashmiris, including senior politicians. Most of them remain in detention and the internet suspended.

The diplomats from more than a dozen countries were driven in a motorcade from the airport amid tight security and the areas they visited were also selected by Indian officials.

“Although access for diplomats, rights activists and foreign journalists to Kashmir has always been controlled, India has further restricted travel to the region for both foreigners and Indian opposition leaders,” VOA noted.

The US broadcaster reported that Indian opposition parties were criticising the government for not allowing their leaders to visit the region while taking diplomats on what they called a “guided tour”.

“Essentially, the government wants to demonstrate that everything is normal in Kashmir, which is far from reality,” said Congress Party leader Manish Tewari.

Besides Ambassador Juster, the diplomats who visited Kashmir represented Norway, Vietnam, South Korea, Brazil, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh and the Maldives.

“It’s all about trying to improve the optics,” Manoj Joshi, a foreign affairs analyst at the Observer Research Foundation in New Delhi told VOA. “Around the world, the government’s handling of the domestic situation has been getting huge amount of negative attention.”

Although Indian succeeded in “persuading” Washington to sends its ambassador, “its other good friend France hid behind the European Union decision not to go on the guided tour,” reported an Indian media outlet, ThePrint.

“Brazilian ambassador to India, Andre Aranha Correa do Lago, didn’t travel to Srinagar although his name was on the list,” the report added.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1528010/us-deplores-detentions-internet-ban-in-occupied-kashmir
 
Internet Ban 'Needed to Check Fake News', Communication Blockade on Kashmiris to Continue

Srinagar: Five days after the Supreme Court asked the government to review the internet blockade imposed on the people of Jammu and Kashmir since last August, the J&K administration has decided not to fully restore the service, stating that the ban on ordinary people using the internet to communicate was required in order to prevent “anti-national elements who are attempting to aid and incite people by transmission of fake news and targeted messages … propagate terrorism, indulge in rumour-mongering, support fallacious proxy wars, spread propaganda/ideologies, and cause disaffection and discontent.”

An order passed late Tuesday by the J&K government’s home department cites “security of the state” and “maintaining public order” as the reasons to not lift the longest internet shutdown in history, which it said was “absolutely necessary … in the interest of the sovereignty and integrity of India”.

With 160 days already over and counting, January is the sixth straight month of the curbs that were imposed on the night of August 4-5, 2019, when Jammu and Kashmir was stripped of its special status, divided and downgraded into two Centrally controlled Union territories – Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh.

According to the order, the government has decided to resume low-speed 2G internet service on postpaid mobile phones only in the districts of Jammu, Samba, Kathua, Udhampur and Reasi from Thursday, January 15. The remaining districts – Poonch, Rajouri, Ramban, Kishtwar and Doda – will remain without mobile internet.

However, users there too, as per the order, will only be able to access “white-listed” sites such as e-banking services and government websites.

In Kashmir, however, the ban on both mobile internet and broadband services for ordinary citizens, would continue, though the administration said it would open 400 more internet kiosks where the public could go in case of urgent need.

On Friday, the Supreme Court, while hearing the petition by Kashmir Times editor Anuradha Bhasin, had declared that the ongoing, open-ended internet curbs in J&K were not permissible, and freedom of speech and expression through the internet was a fundamental right under Article 19(1)(a) of the Indian Constitution that could be subjected only to the same “reasonable restrictions” as speech through any other medium.

The court asked the J&K government to review its restrictions within a week and publish any orders on the basis of which it was imposing curbs but stopped short of directing it to lift the ban.

Tuesday’s administrative order also asks service providers (ISPs) to give broadband internet service to those institutions dealing with essential services, while stating that the government would open 400 more internet kiosks in Kashmir.

The order reads: “Prior to giving such facility, the ISPs shall install necessary firewalls and carry out ‘white listing’ of sites that would enable access to government websites and websites dealing with essential services, e-banking etc. excluding, however all the social media sites. To amplify, there shall be complete restriction on social media applications allowing peer to peer communication and virtual private network applications for the time being.”

In line with earlier orders imposing stringent conditions while restoring internet access to government departments, those institutions and government offices, where broadband services will resume, have been made responsible for any “misuse”.

“…they shall take all the necessary precautions, including appointment of nodal officers, keeping a record of persons/devices, managing and monitoring day to day usage, changing accessibility credentials on a daily basis…”

The government, in the order, reiterates that “the misuse of data services by anti-national elements has the potential to cause large scale violence and disturb public order which has till now been maintained due to various pre-emptive measures…”

Citing inputs and ground assessment by the police and intelligence agencies, the government claims that sustained efforts were being made by militants to infiltrate the border, reactivate their cadres, and scale-up “anti-national” activities in Kashmir as well as militancy-affected areas of Jammu.

The militants, as per the government, do so by communicating through Voice on Internet Protocol (VOIP) and encrypted mobile communication through various social media applications.

Mentioning the Supreme Court’s verdict last week, the order says the fresh directions were issued after “taking into account the ground situation and considering the available alternative measures, in light of the reports of the authorised officers, subject to a detailed review that is being undertaken…”

“The aforesaid directions shall be effective from 15.01.2020 and remain in force for a period of 07 days, unless modified earlier…,” the order reads.
https://thewire.in/rights/internet-...mmunication-blockade-on-kashmiris-to-continue
 
The lack of moral fabric the oppressors have these days.

Atleast admit it that you are a tyrant regime and you will do whatever it takes. Have some spine, no one is able to do anything against you any which way.
 
Dream of 'peaceful South Asia' can't be realised until Kashmir is solved, Qureshi tells Pompeo

Minister for Foreign Affairs Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Friday met with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Washington to discuss the situation in the Middle East and take up India's continuing human rights violations in occupied Kashmir.

Qureshi is on the final leg of his tri-state visit aimed at diffusing US-Iran tensions, as instructed by Prime Minister Imran Khan.

He informed Pompeo about the ongoing human rights abuses in occupied Kashmir, saying eight million people in the occupied region have been "kept confined" through a curfew imposed by New Delhi for the past five months, a Foreign Office statement said.

Qureshi noted that a communications blackout in the valley remains in place in order "to conceal the facts from the world's view".

"The dream of a 'peaceful South Asia' of the US and Pakistan cannot be realised until the Kashmir dispute is resolved in accordance with United Nations resolutions and through a plebiscite of eight million Kashmiris," the FO quoted Qureshi as saying.

Tensions between Pakistan and India had spiked after New Delhi revoked occupied Kashmir's special status in August last year.

Qureshi's remarks come a day after the situation in occupied Kashmir was reviewed at a meeting of the UN Security Council.

Prime Minister Imran had welcomed the UNSC meeting, vowing that Pakistan "will continue to provide moral, political and diplomatic support to the Kashmiri people until they secure their inalienable right to self-determination".

'Pakistan desires peace'
Matters concerning the Pakistan-US relationship, bilateral cooperation and the regional situation were also discussed in the meeting.

During the talks, Qureshi briefed Pompeo about discussions held during his recent visits to Iran and Saudi Arabia.

He said that Pakistan desires peace and stability and is determined to play its role to defuse prevailing tensions in the region, according to the FO statement.


The foreign minister said it was due to Pakistan and the US's joint efforts that the prospect of peace through a political settlement in Afghanistan is now on the horizon after four decades of conflict.

"Pakistan is fulfilling this joint responsibility for the Afghan peace process with sincerity of intent," he said.

According to the FO, Pompeo appreciated Pakistan's "sincere efforts" for the Afghan reconciliation and peace process and a peaceful neighbourhood.

Qureshi during the meeting emphasised the need to promote bilateral trade and investment "in order to give a practical shape to Prime Minister Imran Khan and President Donald Trump's vision of comprehensive bilateral Pak-US relations".
https://www.dawn.com/news/1528915/d...-until-kashmir-is-solved-qureshi-tells-pompeo
 
SMS, Voice Calls Restored On Prepaid Mobiles In Jammu and Kashmir


After nearly six months, prepaid mobile phone service will be restored in Jammu and Kashmir. Officials said voice calls and SMS are being restored for prepaid mobile connections, in the latest measure to relax some of the severe restrictions enforced since August 5 last year.
2G internet services will also be restored with some restrictions on postpaid SIM cards in Bandipora and Kupwara districts of Kashmir and 10 other districts of Jammu, senior officer Rohit Kansal said at a news conference. The access will be limited to government-approved whitelisted sites, the official said.

In Jammu, the government had announced restoration of restricted 2G services early this week but due to stringent conditions, the telecom operators are yet restore the service.

More at :

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jam...-administration-2166009?pfrom=home-topstories
 
SMS, Voice Calls Restored On Prepaid Mobiles In Jammu and Kashmir


After nearly six months, prepaid mobile phone service will be restored in Jammu and Kashmir. Officials said voice calls and SMS are being restored for prepaid mobile connections, in the latest measure to relax some of the severe restrictions enforced since August 5 last year.
2G internet services will also be restored with some restrictions on postpaid SIM cards in Bandipora and Kupwara districts of Kashmir and 10 other districts of Jammu, senior officer Rohit Kansal said at a news conference. The access will be limited to government-approved whitelisted sites, the official said.

In Jammu, the government had announced restoration of restricted 2G services early this week but due to stringent conditions, the telecom operators are yet restore the service.

More at :

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jam...-administration-2166009?pfrom=home-topstories

Is PP an approved webside by your govt?
 
Is PP an approved webside by your govt?

(Assuming u were referring to website)

How can any govt say this site is approved this is not etc,.?

If they don't like any website they will simply block the site but seriously i didn't get ur question sorry
 
(Assuming u were referring to website)

How can any govt say this site is approved this is not etc,.?

If they don't like any website they will simply block the site but seriously i didn't get ur question sorry

Yes I meant websites. I just read govt had whitelisted some sites and in a hurry I assumed it was websites, hence my question. I probably misunderstood the meaning.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Indian Occupation forces continue to target & kill civilians across the LOC with increasing intensity & frequency, there is an urgent need for UN SC to insist India allow UNMOGIP return to IOJK-side of LOC. We fear an Indian false flag operation.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1218790894679339008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to make clear to India and the international community that if India continues its military attacks killing civilians across LOC, Pakistan will find it increasingly difficult to remain an inactive observer along the LOC.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1218790897275502592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Indian Occupation forces continue to target & kill civilians across the LOC with increasing intensity & frequency, there is an urgent need for UN SC to insist India allow UNMOGIP return to IOJK-side of LOC. We fear an Indian false flag operation.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1218790894679339008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to make clear to India and the international community that if India continues its military attacks killing civilians across LOC, Pakistan will find it increasingly difficult to remain an inactive observer along the LOC.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1218790897275502592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Imran only doing what he has been ordered to do.. Does Twitter Khan actually have any say on anything from his gloried PM post ?


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The Modi Comments


lol..
 
Imran only doing what he has been ordered to do.. Does Twitter Khan actually have any say on anything from his gloried PM post ?


INB4

The Modi Comments


lol..

Normally I would avoid replying to such posts but since its Sunday and have some free time on hand so why not engage in a healthy debate on this topic as it has been numerous times been bought up on here.

I assume you meant Imran is taking orders from the Army. If you meant in general then my answer would be different but in context of this tweet surely Army is the best spokesperson on border security, by the way same is the principle in India or anywhere else in the world. Army informs the leaders of the border situation and leaders get in touch with other leaders and take matter forward while keeping the general public in the loop.

But this wasn’t your response right. You were implying Imran is a dummy PM instructed by Army on literally every matter of running this country. I’m sure you blabbered this post without any actual resource work and since its hot at the moment to say Army is behind Imran so let’s jump on this wagon. You don’t have an iota of evidence that all other than security related decisions are taken by Army but still you go for this everytime. Ask yourself why Army would support Imran? Imran hasn’t done any favours in the past for the Army specifically so why would Army be behind him so much. Historically PMLN was the brainchild of the Army and this is not blabbering, this is indeed a fact. PMLN were brothers in arms for the Army, so care to explain me why this love no longer exists now? Its the same Nawaz and its the same Army that made Nawaz. On flip side you have Imran with literally no political backing and on backdrop of 2 decades of political struggle, do you really think that if he had such massive Army support he would have to slough for 2 decades? If you think this was one masterplan then you iq is bollywoodesque where impossible is nothing. Imran is a breath of fresh air for Pakistan and at this point in time from a neutral observer perspective Pakistanis are more satisfied from Imran’s leadership than Indians are from Modi’s. In Imran an average Pakistani can concede the fact he is a better leader, inspiration, dedication, hard worker, etc, I doubt an average Indian feels the same way about Modi. I’m happy Imran is representing me and my country, I hope you do the same with Modi.
 
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