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When will Mohammad Hasnain and Haris Rauf be ready for Test cricket?

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At the moment the pace attack is decent which can carry on for another year or two

But need some back up though.

Imran and Musa don’t have it in them

Hassan Ali not sure what’s he’s up to

Haris Rauf and Hasnain have pace, and Hasnain has height too

Both are very raw though.

A season or two of first class cricket is needed. They shouldn’t be given NOCs and asked to bowl long spells in FC cricket
 
Hasnain can be a long term option. Haris seems more like a T20 specialist. Needs to work on fitness if he wants to play ODIs or Tests for Pakistan.
 
Hasnain is on the right track in terms of fitness. He is much more leaner in terms of physique. I think if he plays matches in QAE 2020 and performs along with showing fitness in different spells than maybe in 2021.

Regarding Haris, I think he bowled decently in few games of QAE 19 and also bowled well in Pakistan Cup 2019 (50 overs tournament) and was the the 6th highest wicket taker. He just needs to work on his overall fitness and if he can go through PSL straight after BBL, National one day cup, T20 internationals before World T20 and then WT20 itself then he will be in much better physical condition. Then QAE 2020 will be up his sleeves to prove his form in longer format.

So both are very much possible by 2021.
 
Keep them limited overs specialists. Shaheen, Naseem, and Abbas should be our pace trio. Sameen Gul should be the backup.
 
Hasnain is a mystery no idea why..why hasnt he played any First Class cricket at all. its not as if he has been injured..you only get rythm when bowling in first class. Rauf is definately not made for 5 day and we will waste him if we did..i think one days and 20 20s he is perfect
 
Hasnain seems like he'll be ready soon if he isn't already. He has the lift and has natural shape going away from the right hander.

Don't really Rauf has anything more than a limited overs bowler.
 
Hasnain is poor man's Sami and Haris Rauf should stick to T20Is and earn money from leagues around the world.
 
Think Rauf has the skills for test cricket, I certainly wouldn’t mind him as an option for England, at least part of the squad, see how he does in warm ups. Think he can harass the off stump.

Fitness and overbowling are the two aspects to consider, which is why we need to manage 6/7 quicks across the formats..
 
Husnain has all the ingredients to become good test bowler.
The problem with him is lack of control and inexperience of bowling at international level .He needs to play full first class season
 
Haris can only play if we play with 3 all rounders. No way can he bowl 20 overs a day
He needs to play a year of first class at least before to learn the trade.
He knows the T20 game
 
Need atleast 1 year of first class cricket they ain't ready for test match yet
 
Haris Rauf should be ready soon.


Mohammad Hasnain when he grows a beard and gets a brain
 
Almost one year gone and no proper 4 day games for either of these two.

Good thing is Hassan might make a comeback, but Abbas and Naseem, especially Naseem might be dropped.

And Haris and Hasnain are yet to play a 4 day game I reckon since the day this thread was created
 
Misbah is generally reluctant to try new bowlers. Rahat Ali was undroppable for a couple of years despite ordinary performances (and a younger Abbas waiting in the wings). Yasir Shah similarly can’t be dropped regardless of how he performs overseas

Wouldn’t expect any debutants to get a chance until Misbah is out.
 
Rauf will never be ready. He is a tape ball bowler who will play a handful of T20Is and ODIs before fading away.

Hasnain is an average bowler, basically another Sami with less talent and equal brain, but he will get his chance ahead of the rubbish Naseem Shah and declining Abbas pretty soon.
 
They can only play Test cricket if our Board stops feeding them a nonstop diet of T20s and encourages them to play QEA Trophy.

Hasnain has played 2 FC matches and 45 T20s. Rauf has played 3 FC and 55 T20s !
 
On what grounds was the decision made that Naseem and Musa are made for test cricket, while Hasnain and others are for limited overs? It is very interesting to note how these complex quantum cricket codes are being cracked by the PCB.
 
Hasnain should have played at least 10 first class matches. Our failure at test level is our own fault the way we treat 1st class cricket
 
Hasnain has potential imo and could become a test march bowler but he needs to play 2 full seasons of FC maybe. No chance of Rauf ever becoming a test bowler. Forget it.
 
Fact is, there is no one breaking the doors down in the fast bowling department. Much of a muchness.

Nothing wrong with getting Hasnain ready for tests. He has played only 2 first class games so yes, he has to spend time in the domestics for a long long period before making a case.
 
Why dont these bowlers play FC cricket All i see is a stream of t20s

No wonder they always look well short of test quality
 
They'll never be ready of they don't play First Class cricket. I think the PCB should consider playing rounds 6-10 and the final of the QeA trophy in April, so that all players can play first class cricket, since there won't be any international commitments then due to the IPL.
 
Bring whoever you like, none of them are good enough. Even Ashok DINDA could get into our Test xi
 
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On what grounds was the decision made that Naseem and Musa are made for test cricket, while Hasnain and others are for limited overs? It is very interesting to note how these complex quantum cricket codes are being cracked by the PCB.

I think the right decision was made regarding Hasnain. He was very raw at the time and still is for teat cricket. They all meed to play a lot more FC cricket to be honest.
 
They'll never be ready of they don't play First Class cricket. I think the PCB should consider playing rounds 6-10 and the final of the QeA trophy in April, so that all players can play first class cricket, since there won't be any international commitments then due to the IPL.

Interesting idea. Thing is lack of some young players playing FC matches got exaggerated this year due to combined big squad.
 
They'll never be ready of they don't play First Class cricket. I think the PCB should consider playing rounds 6-10 and the final of the QeA trophy in April, so that all players can play first class cricket, since there won't be any international commitments then due to the IPL.

ramadan starting 12 april this year so wont be possible.
 
Don’t know how Haris Rauf got in the test side with no FC games. I am afraid it’ll be similar to Naseem if not worse
 
Shahnawaz hasnt looked good at all in pakistan cup at all..hasnain didnt play today no idea why. Hope he isnt been rested for nothing
 
Its imperative all players like imam, hasnain musa n rauf start playing fc cricket Pakistan cant afford players to bypass this and still be picked for the team What we are getting as a result is inexperienced test match quality players

The likes of musa and hasnain shouldve by now had 2 seasons of fc cricket and experience under their belt Instead theyve been carrying drinks around missing out on that experience

High importance needs to be given to domestics And players need to be pushed and encouraged in that direction if they want selection

There needs to be a min criteria of fc matches that you have to play to be considered for any format

Its the only way to make our test team better by picking players with 4 day experience
 
Don’t know how Haris Rauf got in the test side with no FC games. I am afraid it’ll be similar to Naseem if not worse

M Waseem has justified it that they dont have any real options in regards to bowlers with pace n aggression

The cupboard is bare apart from naseem hasnain n rauf

Its imperative these guys play more fc cricket n get ready for test match requirements now
 
Its imperative all players like imam, hasnain musa n rauf start playing fc cricket Pakistan cant afford players to bypass this and still be picked for the team What we are getting as a result is inexperienced test match quality players

The likes of musa and hasnain shouldve by now had 2 seasons of fc cricket and experience under their belt Instead theyve been carrying drinks around missing out on that experience

High importance needs to be given to domestics And players need to be pushed and encouraged in that direction if they want selection

There needs to be a min criteria of fc matches that you have to play to be considered for any format

Its the only way to make our test team better by picking players with 4 day experience

They have to be given opportunities to play

Its not their fault that they are on international duties or not played by their sides.
 
They have to be given opportunities to play

Its not their fault that they are on international duties or not played by their sides.

Hasnain currently sitting on the Sindh bench. Abdullah Shafique and Ali Zaryab on the Central Punjab bench. Rauf playing BBL instead of List A.

It’s quite frustrating.
 
Hasnain currently sitting on the Sindh bench. Abdullah Shafique and Ali Zaryab on the Central Punjab bench. Rauf playing BBL instead of List A.

It’s quite frustrating.

So after all Abdullah is benched after 1 game !.husnain also should be playing the cheif selector should be on the phone to news coaches/selectors
 
Simple
After two full FC seasons we will judge if they're ready or not

Before that forget that they even exist (when selecting test squad)
 
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