Where was Haris Sohail all this while? Huge injustice to suppress this talent

[Syed1]

I bet Inzi is itching to force the hand of the team management to somehow or the other select Malik.

 

[Bewal Express]

He's a proper batsman, like Babar, that always helps.

We discussed a few weeks ago that without him, you are only playing 4 batsman. He played intelligently​ today and hit the bad ball on a difficult wicket.

 

[ManFan]

Rameez asked him why Haris had been left out. It was obvious that he didn’t have a suitable answer and seemed like a deer in headlights.

He just started mumbling, searching for words. It has nothing to do with comprehension or the English language.

His explanation was basically. “Before we tried one combination and now we are trying another”.

Maybe I’m reading too much in to it but it certainly seems selection isn’t based entirely on merit.

I think it was a random journalist at the post-match press conference.

And yes, that response if facepalm.

 

[miandadrules]

I think it was a random journalist at the post-match press conference.

And yes, that response if facepalm.

It was rameez at the presentation ceremony.

 

[ManFan]

It was rameez at the presentation ceremony.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[shockbound]

He's a proper batsman, like Babar, that always helps.

Even Babar go in shell against quality attack, but for this guy its like a walk in a park.

 

[bumper]

Haris Sohail Run Out. Or was he?

Bit of an irrelevant side note, but I'm sure the bails were not dislodged and just lit up. Then the ball is no longer in Guptill's hand when the bails are completely off.

 

[bumper]

Doesn't the bail need to be completely removed?

 

[sahiwal_punjabi_786]

We love you HARIS SOHAIL

So proud of Haris - what a classy player and fighter. You have the energy to win us this cup and have really stepped up to the stage.

Go Haris Go !!

 

[mak36]

Hey bro, thanks for remembering me <3

yep Haris is a must heard Sarfaraz had a fight with Inzi and Mickey as they wanted Malik against India and enforced their decision.

Like I said to another poster, we have been saying this for so long I got bored of repeating myself. Eventually they'll play Haris in his best spot...

 

[PakHammer]

Like Harry at number 5, seems to play with more freedom at that position. Keep him there until after the world cup.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Haris Sohail in 22 innings vs Aus/NZ/England/NZ/India: 54.26 average 86.06 SR.

Pretty pretty good.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

It is a crime for Haris Sohail to not be batting in the top 4

Second best batsman in the country batting at 5. Only in Pakistan are our best players moved down the order. Needs to be batting at 4 after this World Cup

 

[aukhan]

Hafeez's ego and captain's lack of spine is to be blamed for this crime.

 

[angrypathan]

Only a matter of this game

 

[Rellu_Katta]

i really hope we dont change our top4 post this world cup with Harris Sohail being the 4th...

 

[Rayyman]

You have to be flexible with your batting order. Hafeez is a better hitter.

Y'all might have your favorites but it's a team game.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You have to be flexible with your batting order. Hafeez is a better hitter.

Y'all might have your favorites but it's a team game.

Yeah. What a hitter. Clueless Pakistani fans

 

[farazaidi]

Hafeez's ego and captain's lack of spine is to be blamed for this crime.

clearly. With Hafeez & Malik retired, Sarfraz can have more control on the team.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

clearly. With Hafeez & Malik retired, Sarfraz can have more control on the team.

Bhai Sarfraz himself shouldn’t be in the team

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Professor is just so awful

Senior player getting out the same way all over the tournament

I hope he never plays for Pakistan again.

 

[aukhan]

clearly. With Hafeez & Malik retired, Sarfraz can have more control on the team.

He needs to control his belly now. Captaincy should be handed over to Babar for good.

 

[farazaidi]

He needs to control his belly now. Captaincy should be handed over to Babar for good.

As poor as he has been in the world cup, we dont have any other captaincy option right now. We shouldnt repeat mistakes of 2003 and 2007 & 2015. Only other player with captaincy credentials is Amir, he should be made vice and play with Sarfraz for atleast a couple of years.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

As poor as he has been in the world cup, we dont have any other captaincy option right now. We shouldnt repeat mistakes of 2003 and 2007 & 2015. Only other player with captaincy credentials is Amir, he should be made vice and play with Sarfraz for atleast a couple of years.

Sarfraz being captain means we’re playing with 10 players. This no other option excuse doesn’t work

 

[aukhan]

As poor as he has been in the world cup, we dont have any other captaincy option right now. We shouldnt repeat mistakes of 2003 and 2007 & 2015. Only other player with captaincy credentials is Amir, he should be made vice and play with Sarfraz for atleast a couple of years.

What are these so called credentials? Can't bat, cant take responsibility, hides behind tailenders, leaks dressing info to journalist friends? The only option we have is our best performer and former u19 captain Babar Azam.

 

[RameezRambo_Fan]

If there is no other option then don't elect a captain. Who says you need one? Just rotate an assistant captain until one is properly groomed.

This pathetic joke of a captain is an embarrassment to Pakistan's rich cricketing history.

 

[Arsal_AK]

As poor as he has been in the world cup, we dont have any other captaincy option right now. We shouldnt repeat mistakes of 2003 and 2007 & 2015. Only other player with captaincy credentials is Amir, he should be made vice and play with Sarfraz for atleast a couple of years.

What makes Sarfraz of all people such a great choice? Also lost these credentials you speak of.

Such reasoning always baffles me. The guy doesn't make the team. Literally anyone else who does is a better option.

 

[asfandyar]

He is trying to do too much. He's not a pinch hitter, but his new role is taking a toll on him.

 

[Arsal_AK]

What makes Sarfraz of all people such a great choice? Also lost these credentials you speak of.

Such reasoning always baffles me. The guy doesn't make the team. Literally anyone else who does is a better option.

*list.

 

[MenInG]

Grant Flower mentioned Haris "I think Haris Sohail is probably an underachiever - I think a lot of people haven't seen the best of him yet."

 

[MenInG]

Good prep for the upcoming season for Haris Sohail


Two-Day practice match Day One Score

Sarfaraz XI: 355-7 in 90 overs

Iftikhar Ahmed 104*
Imam ul Haq 100 retired out
Haris Sohail 69 retired out,

Bilal Asif 2-57
Zafar Gohar 2-94
Mir Hamza 1-67
Mohammad Zahid 1-32

 

[Markhor]

Haris Sohail given the captaincy for Balochistan province.

Interested to see how he handles the responsibility.

 

[Saj]

I want to see him winning games for Pakistan.

It's time he reached the next level as a batsman.

 

[MenInG]

Sarfaraz Ahmed not happy with Haris Sohail in the 3rd T20I

"The required rate was 8.5, we thought there is a set batsman there so I'll go and bat there but unfortunately Haris got out after 2 overs. The message to Haris was for us to bat together for 2-3 overs more and take it closer because we had players who could maintain 9-10 runs per over but unfortunately he got out. The decision was that I would go out there and rotate strike and Haris will stay with me but he got out"

 

[Barragan]

Awful, awful innings and completely unacceptable!

It was a perfectly paced innings for an ODI, but not for a T20.

 

[Rayyman]

Sarfaraz Ahmed not happy with Haris Sohail in the 3rd T20I

"The required rate was 8.5, we thought there is a set batsman there so I'll go and bat there but unfortunately Haris got out after 2 overs. The message to Haris was for us to bat together for 2-3 overs more and take it closer because we had players who could maintain 9-10 runs per over but unfortunately he got out. The decision was that I would go out there and rotate strike and Haris will stay with me but he got out"

Yes, blame Haris who scored a fifty. Not Sarfraz who scored 17(16).

Haris had to hit because he knew that Sarfraz is incapable of clearing the fence.

 

[saeedhk]

Sarfaraz Ahmed not happy with Haris Sohail in the 3rd T20I

"The required rate was 8.5, we thought there is a set batsman there so I'll go and bat there but unfortunately Haris got out after 2 overs. The message to Haris was for us to bat together for 2-3 overs more and take it closer because we had players who could maintain 9-10 runs per over but unfortunately he got out. The decision was that I would go out there and rotate strike and Haris will stay with me but he got out"

Sarfraz is a classless individual. What about his own performance? Fakhar, Asif?? Why blame a guy who played only 1 match. On top of that, Haris scored a fifty. Sarfraz deserves all the criticism he gets. When was the last time this guy scored some meaningful runs? He always blames someone else to save himself. Sarfraz has no cricket left in him. Can’t believe someone so incompetent is the captain. Shoaib is right about Sarfraz being lost and darpok.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Awful, awful innings and completely unacceptable!

It was a perfectly paced innings for an ODI, but not for a T20.

It was a selfish innings. He definitely looked like he was playing for a spot in the team. Which to be fair he was.

 

[hadi123]

I didn't watch the match and I don't even want to watch highlights as we lost but his innings seems okay. We were not chasing a huge score, he was playing the anchor so the people around him could play for the shots. However he got out at a bad time. There's not much else I can say as I haven't actually seen the match, I don't know how he was actually playing, but one thing for sure is that he definitely wasn't match ka mujrim

 

[Jabo]

Injured

So close this thread and move on

 

[Shoaib88]

It is quite pathetic of sarfraz as a captain to throw haris under the bus for this embarrassing loss. Must make Imad captain in t20s atleast!

 

[as-95]

Sarfraz is a cancer to the team. Captains lead by example and protect their players but this cowardly individual is blaming a player who played in a single match and still scored well (despite the unideal strike rate). We need to begin chemotherapy on our cancer by removing Sarfraz from the side as soon as possible!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Yes, blame Haris who scored a fifty. Not Sarfraz who scored 17(16).

Haris had to hit because he knew that Sarfraz is incapable of clearing the fence.

Look at his idea, I would rotate strike and Haris will stay with me, then who will hit.

 

[Bewal Express]

Haris is not a T20 player but in our team he looks decent because the rest are so poor.

 

[Shoaib88]

Look at his idea, I would rotate strike and Haris will stay with me, then who will hit.

Yea lol

 

[DHONI183]

Haris is a seriously good batsman. I don´t one bit doubt his capabilities yet. I love his classy stroke-making and those lofted shots over the in-field. However, it was a horribly paced innings yesterday. You can´t bat like that in a T20 game when on the other hand the required run-rate keeps climbing up. He needs to improve his game awareness in T20 cricket, surely.

Look at his idea, I would rotate strike and Haris will stay with me, then who will hit.

Well spotted! That sounded so funny!

 

[Kroll]

Sarfraz is a cancer to the team. Captains lead by example and protect their players but this cowardly individual is blaming a player who played in a single match and still scored well (despite the unideal strike rate). We need to begin chemotherapy on our cancer by removing Sarfraz from the side as soon as possible!

The entire leadership is now blaming others with Misbah blaming the previous regime.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Haris is a seriously good batsman. I don´t one bit doubt his capabilities yet. I love his classy stroke-making and those lofted shots over the in-field. However, it was a horribly paced innings yesterday. You can´t bat like that in a T20 game when on the other hand the required run-rate keeps climbing up. He needs to improve his game awareness in T20 cricket, surely.




Well spotted! That sounded so funny!

His team was struggling to get through this phases from overs 4-12 without losing bundles of wickets. He batted well, babar made a struggling 32 ball 27, then comes the captain, sarfraz now desperate to make runs and stay fit is costing the team. Took a back seat under MA not coming to bat when needed, lazy attitude towards the game, now running harder to save a spot for him

 

[DRsohail]

Haris is a seriously good batsman. I don´t one bit doubt his capabilities yet. I love his classy stroke-making and those lofted shots over the in-field. However, it was a horribly paced innings yesterday. You can´t bat like that in a T20 game when on the other hand the required run-rate keeps climbing up. He needs to improve his game awareness in T20 cricket, surely.



Well spotted! That sounded so funny!

Misbah and Micky Arthur happened in 2010 to 2019.

 

[DHONI183]

His team was struggling to get through this phases from overs 4-12 without losing bundles of wickets. He batted well, babar made a struggling 32 ball 27, then comes the captain, sarfraz now desperate to make runs and stay fit is costing the team. Took a back seat under MA not coming to bat when needed, lazy attitude towards the game, now running harder to save a spot for him

Yeah, a second look on the scorecard does make me conclude that Babar too takes a portion of the blame for the defeat. 27 off 32 is a simple no-go area in T20 cricket, given the climbing required run-rate.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not a great start to Sohail's Australia tour. Gone for 4.

 

[CadPakFan]

Not a great start to Sohail's Australia tour. Gone for 4.

Was never really a T20 player

 

[Snowflake]

Best bat after Babar. Wouldn't look too much into his T20 performance

 

[MenInG]

Horrific series for Haris

4,6,8 in this series

 

[Mamoon]

Bags of talent but so frustrating to watch. Every time you think he is ready to take his game to the next level he disappoints.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

Haris Sohail gets out for 18(24) in the first innings against Australia A. Looked good for a bit but then gave it away cheaply.

 

[Bhaijaan]

He is immensely talented but it is frustrating to see him not being able to deliver.

It is like watching Hitman way back in 2009 when he was still known was No-Hit Sharma. Does anyone remember that period? What a remarkable turn around. Hoping the same for Harris who reminds us all of Inzamam with his lazy elegance yet immaculate timing and hitting power.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

He is immensely talented but it is frustrating to see him not being able to deliver.

It is like watching Hitman way back in 2009 when he was still known was No-Hit Sharma. Does anyone remember that period? What a remarkable turn around. Hoping the same for Harris who reminds us all of Inzamam with his lazy elegance yet immaculate timing and hitting power.

I believe in Haris, but I feel time's running out between his age, and his injury and fitness issues. He needs to sort it out soon.

 

[Captain caveman]

He is immensely talented but it is frustrating to see him not being able to deliver.

It is like watching Hitman way back in 2009 when he was still known was No-Hit Sharma. Does anyone remember that period? What a remarkable turn around. Hoping the same for Harris who reminds us all of Inzamam with his lazy elegance yet immaculate timing and hitting power.

But sharma was young in 2009, haris is 30 odd and injury prone.
He is a better player than babar at the moment, but babar is more determined to succeed and haris is lazy.
Reminds me abit of kohli and sharma, but they are of a similar age and motivated each other, haris is alot older than babar and ultimately, will always be a hit and miss player for what short period of time he has left in cricket.

Its not entirely haris's fault, he got picked late to play for pak, could have been pick at least 3 years earlier and then unfortunately had a bad knee injury that kept him out of the game for quite a few years(though his lack of fitness and weight issues may have contributed to his knee problems!)

 

[Bhaijaan]

Horrific series for Haris

4,6,8 in this series

He was starting to excel under Micky Arthur.

He is missing a father figure in this young team.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I believe in Haris, but I feel time's running out between his age, and his injury and fitness issues. He needs to sort it out soon.

With big and unfit men it is always am extra issue.

Inzamam was ridiculously good to stay at the top of his game despite being technically fat.

 

[fight_club]

Feel like tearing out my leftover hairs, watching Harry throwing away his wicket.

He never seems hurried played few attractive strokes, Solid in defense and than
for some reason he chose to keep chasing wide deliveries on Off stumps even after
getting two boundaries in the same over.

I always believe Sports Psychiartrist should be a must for Pakistani Batsmen.
I can understand T20 Failures but there is no Excuse for gifting his wicket in
in this format. Atrocious

 

[The_Odd_One]

We were told that Misbah made a mistake by excluding him from T-20 team against Sri Lanka when Haris has not done anything of note in T-20s so far.

He should focus on ODIs and Tests where I think he's Pakistan's one of the best.

 

[Bewal Express]

Haris is an average Test player, sometimes totally gets bogged down, a very average ODI player again too often gets bogged down and a terrible T20 player, who is barely a franchise player.

 

[hitthestump]

I heard recently that Haris is that guy who 'always has an excuse' when it comes to training hard and tbh it makes a lot of sense.

Talented, but so far in his career he seems like the batsman who will always fall short of what he should be achieving.

 

[aloo paratha]

Haris is an average Test player, sometimes totally gets bogged down, a very average ODI player again too often gets bogged down and a terrible T20 player, who is barely a franchise player.

How's he an average ODI player? Averages 46 at a SR of 85. In his short short test career he's been decent as well.

 

[Kroll]

Sadly, the PCB messed up Haris with his injury and he's never going to become the great batsman he could have because of this. Azhar with his dodgy knee is also hampering this batting lineup.

Hopefully, we have fresh and talented batsmen coming through that can challenge for spots as these players probably won't last long due to injury and fitness issues as well as age in the case of Azhar.

 

[Bewal Express]

How's he an average ODI player? Averages 46 at a SR of 85. In his short short test career he's been decent as well.

Averages are important but the more important is context. I said before the WC that he was mentally weak and although his innings against NZ allayed some of my fears, I am still not convinced. I hope I am wrong as a like some parts of his game.

 

[aloo paratha]

Averages are important but the more important is context. I said before the WC that he was mentally weak and although his innings against NZ allayed some of my fears, I am still not convinced. I hope I am wrong as a like some parts of his game.

Where has he shown he's mentally weak?

 

[Boiz Played Well]

Sadly, the PCB messed up Haris with his injury and he's never going to become the great batsman he could have because of this. Azhar with his dodgy knee is also hampering this batting lineup.

Hopefully, we have fresh and talented batsmen coming through that can challenge for spots as these players probably won't last long due to injury and fitness issues as well as age in the case of Azhar.

PCB did mess it up and they really need to work on improving player rehabilitation and provide the best care and recovery possible for their athletes.

That being said, Pakistan never produces top-quality batsmen at the same rate it does left-handed quicks. So if we have good players who also have experience under their belt, it's best to persist with them till their replacements are knocking on the door. Australian commentators on the stream yesterday were talking about players have 2-3 consistent domestic seasons at the top before emerging as first team contenders. We do not have that luxury. But we still need to have some standards.

By this I don't mean bringing back "experienced" TTFs. I mean it's best to work with the likes of Asad, Haris and Azhar till they are available. Discounting the recent past, Haris has had a fairly successful return to cricket post-injury this year. Azhar had a fairly poor FC season with Somerset but a great one-day season which they won--it exhibited his fitness at the very least. Asad scored a century at the Gabba last time round and is doing well again at the practice match atm.

I'll admit these aren't the best options in the world, but they are the best options for us. People will argue about others in domestic, but honestly no one can just come in and waltz the Australians away in Australia at test match cricket. I'm hoping Iftikhar does but we'll see. Meantime, PCB needs to manage the resources they have and take care of their injuries and fitness till new replacements are knocking on the door.

 

[Rayyman]

Haris Sohail has never been a top order batsman. He has always been better in the middle-order where his game is more suited.

He only averages 30.4 at #3, but he averages 44.2 at #4-6.

The guy bats at #4 in ODIs, so it makes absolutely no sense to play him higher up in Tests. For example, Faf Du Plessis bats at #5 in Tests and #3 in ODIs. Shakib Al-Hasan bats at #5 in Tests and #3 in ODIs.

Haris should bat at either #4/5 in the Pakistan XI.

I know that he was recently batting at #4, but Azhar Ali was moved up to open to accomodate Iftikhar.

Babar Azam should be batting ahead of Haris Sohail in all formats. He is a better player of pace/bounce while the latter is better v.s. spin.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

Haris Sohail has never been a top order batsman. He has always been better in the middle-order where his game is more suited.

He only averages 30.4 at #3, but he averages 44.2 at #4-6.

The guy bats at #4 in ODIs, so it makes absolutely no sense to play him higher up in Tests. For example, Faf Du Plessis bats at #5 in Tests and #3 in ODIs. Shakib Al-Hasan bats at #5 in Tests and #3 in ODIs.

Haris should bat at either #4/5 in the Pakistan XI.

I know that he was recently batting at #4, but Azhar Ali was moved up to open to accomodate Iftikhar.

Babar Azam should be batting ahead of Haris Sohail in all formats. He is a better player of pace/bounce while the latter is better v.s. spin.

Agreed. Maybe #5 with Babar at #4. Any farther up for Babar and he drops off steeply too. #3 is our most unsettled number statistically. Azhar has the best numbers for it. But if he opens then it's trial by fire for any of Abid Ali, Masood, Iftikhar, Imam or Rizwan.

 

[Rayyman]

Agreed. Maybe #5 with Babar at #4. Any farther up for Babar and he drops off steeply too. #3 is our most unsettled number statistically. Azhar has the best numbers for it. But if he opens then it's trial by fire for any of Abid Ali, Masood, Iftikhar, Imam or Rizwan.

Babar has the game to bat at #3.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

Babar has the game to bat at #3.

9 innings in AUS/NZ at 3 with only one score over 30. 15 innings overall with an average of 25.

He could've made all the right improvements but unnecessary risk with the most valuable asset and a brittle batting order.

 

[Rayyman]

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9 innings in AUS/NZ at 3 with only one score over 30. 15 innings overall with an average of 25.

He could've made all the right improvements but unnecessary risk with the most valuable asset and a brittle batting order.

You're not wrong, but this was 3 years ago and Babar's game has gone to another level.

I am hoping you saw his 90-odd in the 1st Test vs SA because he was batting too low there on a similar pitch to the one that the 1st Test vs AUS will be played in.

Additionally, there is nobody else to bat at #3 for Pakistan.

Azhar Ali, Shan Masood and Imam ul-Haq do not have the stroke-making ability to capitalize on a strong opening partnership which is required at #3. They are best suited to blunting the new ball. While Haris Sohail and Asad Shafiq are not suited to coming in after an early wicket.

Maybe Abid Ali or Asad Shafiq can be tried at #3, but I don't see it playing out that way.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

You're not wrong, but this was 3 years ago and Babar's game has gone to another level.

I am hoping you saw his 90-odd in the 1st Test vs SA because he was batting too low there on a similar pitch to the one that the 1st Test vs AUS will be played in.

Additionally, there is nobody else to bat at #3 for Pakistan.

Azhar Ali, Shan Masood and Imam ul-Haq do not have the stroke-making ability to capitalize on a strong opening partnership which is required at #3. They are best suited to blunting the new ball. While Haris Sohail and Asad Shafiq are not suited to coming in after an early wicket.

Maybe Abid Ali or Asad Shafiq can be tried at #3, but I don't see it playing out that way.

That's true as well. Much rounded cricketer now.

But first time I'm looking at it from a squad selection perspective. And it seems the batting squad is either top heavy with 4 potential openers or congested middle to lower-middle with Haris, Rizwan, Iftikar, Asad. Should've considered taking someone with more #3 and #4 experience even if it was FC because right now all of them won't be first choices for the position. Except perhaps Babar if he has improved there like you mentioned.

 

[Hyperion66]

Haris is a fantastic talent but I somehow I feel he doesn't have much appetite for success.

 

[Savak]

Haris is a fantastic talent but I somehow I feel he doesn't have much appetite for success.

It shows in his fitness

 

[Captain caveman]

Haris is a fantastic talent but I somehow I feel he doesn't have much appetite for success.

Looks like he has a big appetite to me(lol).

 

[Xoib]

Haris is quality I don't care how he looks in 3 days side game or random t-20 jamodi's come that match I back him to stand up and be counted