Which loss would Indians want to omit from their history?

[B_Positive]

I have some options, you are free to comment anyone of your choice though:

1. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

2. 2007 WC loss to Bangladesh

3. 2015 WC semi final loss to Australia.

4. 2016 T20 WC loss in semis to WI

5. 2017 Champions trophy final loss to Pakistan

Which one?

 

[Syed1]

Chennai test

 

[Ab Fan]

None...Life moves on!

 

[King Kong]

The match where Mccullum scored a triple.

 

[Srtfan]

2003 wc final

 

[Bhaijaan]

I think it’s going to be unanimous based on the generation of Indians. Either the 1996 wc semi or the 2003 wc final. Followed by of course the 2017 CR final.

That’s 1,2 and 3 for me.

No test match is bigger than a tournament trophy

 

[Oligochaetes]

OP's name and his thread are in direct conflict with each other. I would pick 2003 World Cup final loss. Its a world cup final after all. I dont think Indians are bothered with CT having already won three of those.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

2003 world cup final

 

[Hasan123]

2003 WC. Wasn't even a contest I'm sure India will be disappointed with that result.

 

[BlackShadow]

2003 WC final was one of my saddest memories as a child. I didn't realize what we were up against and actually believed that we would win.

 

[BlackShadow]

2017 CT didn't really hurt much, but 1 year later I wish it never happened. 12+ months of bragging from Pakistani fans gets really annoying.

 

[BreadPakoda]

2017 CT didn't really hurt much, but 1 year later I wish it never happened. 12+ months of bragging from Pakistani fans gets really annoying.

It just replaced 2012 aane do series win, the bragging of which was going on for 5 years.

 

[BreadPakoda]

@ OP. This is an easy one. 2003 World Cup final.

1) Had we won, we would have become WC champions. That's itself the biggest thing in cricket
2) We would have overcome our biggest nemesis - Ozzies, 8 years before time

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

2017 CT didn't really hurt much, but 1 year later I wish it never happened. 12+ months of bragging from Pakistani fans gets really annoying.

It just replaced 2012 aane do series win, the bragging of which was going on for 5 years.

The 2019 WC group-stages win will add on to that

 

[BreadPakoda]

The 2019 WC group-stages win will add on to that

I wouldn't be surprised. I do not trust Kohli - the captain on big occasions.

 

[cricket.mad]

2003 World Cup final

 

[JattMaula]

2003 WC final was one of my saddest memories as a child. I didn't realize what we were up against and actually believed that we would win.

My father told me beforehand that we were unlikely to win. He again warned me when we chose to field first that we were in for spanking but I was little and stupid.

 

[Rahul1]

2003 WC final. Someone tell me that the final was abandoned and cricket websites have a fake scorecard of that match.

 

[par]

Every future losses.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

I wasn't following cricket as closely in 2003 and I don't remember if I was even watching the final, but I was following closely in 2007 and it was pretty humiliating to lose to Bangladesh in the World Cup and then be eliminated in the very first round. That's far, far worse than reaching the final of the World Cup and then being destroyed by a clearly superior team.

 

[dani2k]

2003 WC undoubtedly. We had a champion team that deserved the cup but had two terrible days against the mighty aussies resulting in our only losses, the second one losing us the cup

Bitter one to take. The others are easier to move on with.

 

[BreadPakoda]

2003 WC undoubtedly. We had a champion team that deserved the cup but had two terrible days against the mighty aussies resulting in our only losses, the second one losing us the cup

Bitter one to take. The others are easier to move on with.

I don't think we deserved the cup. Our two terrible days were administered by the team that truly deserved the cup.

 

[jeetu]

1987 WC semi loss to England. It was our cup for taking but then Gooch happened and rest is history.

 

[the_outsider]

2007 WC

At least in all the others we made it to the final which means we obviously Syed very good cricket. One team has to lose so final loses don't bother me so much. Being runners up is also a praiseworthy performance.

But to crash out of the WC in the first round itself after losing to BD means we just played bad cricket. So that's the one I would like to have never happened.

 

[Bhaijaan]

2003 WC undoubtedly. We had a champion team that deserved the cup but had two terrible days against the mighty aussies resulting in our only losses, the second one losing us the cup

Bitter one to take. The others are easier to move on with.

Let’s be honest. We had a fun team BUT Australia was at another level. They way they bailed themselves out of a couple of poor batting performances defending 220sh totals with ease and then smashed us for 360 in the final, they thoroughly deserved it. Australia had a clean sheet, a legendary line up and they picked themselves up every single freaking time thy were down and out.

India’s wins on the other hand were mostly dominant. We weren’t pushed to our limits but when we were by australia we seemed to have no answer either with the bat or ball.

 

[Slim]

They are never going to admit but 2017 CT final loss hurt them a lot and probably their top 2 painful defeats. After all that chest thumping and petty arrogance from their fans, celebrities and former cricketers, they were shown their aukat by the biggest defeat in a tournament final. Utterly humiliated. Cannot get worse than that.

 

[Bhaijaan]

1987 WC semi loss to England. It was our cup for taking but then Gooch happened and rest is history.

Was India better than Pakistan in 1987?
[MENTION=81]Monsee[/MENTION] @TheGreatKhan @KKWC

 

[kuskash]

They are never going to admit but 2017 CT final loss hurt them a lot and probably their top 2 painful defeats. After all that chest thumping and petty arrogance from their fans, celebrities and former cricketers, they were shown their aukat by the biggest defeat in a tournament final. Utterly humiliated. Cannot get worse than that.

Bhai, at least let Indians decide whats the most painful loss for them. Ofcourse, WC matters more than CT for them (for Pak its reverse).

 

[ask_analyse_act]

1987 WC semi loss to England. It was our cup for taking but then Gooch happened and rest is history.

yes pak also lost on the other semi with Aus.

Otherwise it would have been ind vs pak ODI WC final which has never happened yet.

 

[Usman Chadda]

2017 CT didn't really hurt much, but 1 year later I wish it never happened. 12+ months of bragging from Pakistani fans gets really annoying.

That is the point of bragging

 

[Sidilicious]

ODI, even WC losses do not hurt much after a few months. It’s the test matches that hurt.

2003 WC we lost to the better team and 2007 team was in disarray thanks to Chappell. We have 2 WCs and CT to care about losses.

The ones that haunt me are
1. 2008 Sydney test
2. 2004 Sydney test
3. 1999 Chennai test
4. 2004 year series loss to Aus

The first 2 we could have created history. The Chennai test was one of the most magical test matches. In fact all 3 matches - 2 from indo pak rest series, and 1 from Asian test championship were amazing.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Bhai, at least let Indians decide whats the most painful loss for them. Ofcourse, WC matters more than CT for them (for Pak its reverse).

[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] started watching cricket in 2017. Someone has probably told him that CT>WC and being the gullible soul he is, he has lapped it up.

 

[Slim]

[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION] started watching cricket in 2017. Someone has probably told him that CT>WC and being the gullible soul he is, he has lapped it up.

Your feeble attempts to hide the pain are not working. I was there to see when you guys lost the match, i read the comments.

 

[kuskash]

Your feeble attempts to hide the pain are not working. I was there to see when you guys lost the match, i read the comments.

So there is no way out. Poor Indians can not even decide what pains them the most. Now that will be decided by Pak fans.

I am sure lots of Indians would like to erase those tours to Eng and Aus where they lost by 4-0 back to back. That was the lowest point for my many Indian friends here in USA.

 

[Mp812]

So there is no way out. Poor Indians can not even decide what pains them the most. Now that will be decided by Pak fans.
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I am sure lots of Indians would like to erase those tours to Eng and Aus where they lost by 4-0 back to back. That was the lowest point for my many Indian friends here in USA.

On a serious note of course 2003 worldcup loss. it would mean second world cup in 2003 and 2011 would be 3rd world cup then. Not to mention the joy of defeating the Aus team of 2003 which was one of all time beAst teams of all

 

[Sean143]

That game where Javed Miandad smashed Cheetan Sharma for a final ball six to win it for Pakistan.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

It's a tough one between 2003 WC final loss and 2007 early exit. But I think 2003 will edge it for me. You knew Australia were too good but India was on a roll in that tournament, it was like everything was coming together for the team and you just needed one good day.

I don't think the loss was the reason for hurt as much as the manner in which we lost, from over 1 we were blown away and we just never looked like we belonged there.

Bangladesh loss was shocking because back then minnows hardly upset big sides however we had a chance to go through against Sri Lanka but we botched that.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I doubt WC03 or CT17 should go down as painful. India was out of the game by the end of first innings in WC03 and beginning of second innings in CT17. Both were comprehensive thrashings

Painful is what Pakistan went through in WT20 2007

 

[cricketworm]

1. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

2. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

3. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

4. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

5. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

 

[anoop]

Thats easy for me. 2003 WC final, nothing even comes close.

 

[Mahee]

1996 WC semi final and 2003 WC final

 

[Usman Chadda]

Hilarious seeing the WC03 posts here. Did you honestly believe you had a chance against THAT Aussie team?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Hilarious seeing the WC03 posts here. Did you honestly believe you had a chance against THAT Aussie team?

Fluke can happen just like ct17 final.and we were counting on it.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Hilarious seeing the WC03 posts here. Did you honestly believe you had a chance against THAT Aussie team?

On a serious note,after all that fixing saga and years of mediocrity,dada raised our standards and made us a team who can trouble opponents in their homeland.We were riding on that natwest series win and first time we had a decent fast bowling attack viz:javagal,nehra,zaheer.
Sachin was also at his best so we were hopeful.

 

[cricketworm]

Hilarious seeing the WC03 posts here. Did you honestly believe you had a chance against THAT Aussie team?

The way India beat Pakistan at Centurion, there was lots of hopes. Saurav's team was ready. It was flat pitch and Saurav kind of made a mistake having Aus bat first.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

2017 CT didn't really hurt much, but 1 year later I wish it never happened. 12+ months of bragging from Pakistani fans gets really annoying.

Tell me about it, we have to listen to Indians brag about sachin’s upper cut six of akhtar’s wide short ball that even I could’ve hit!

 

[nextover666666]

Fluke can happen just like ct17 final.and we were counting on it.

Winning by 2 or 3 runs is fluke like how india beat bangladesh in world t20 2016 match.....2017 ct final was no fluke, it was pakistan destroying india by 180 runs

 

[KingKhanWC]

Was India better than Pakistan in 1987?

[MENTION=81]Monsee[/MENTION] @TheGreatKhan @KKWC

No not in my opinion. Imran was still youngish and Pakistan were playing at home. I believe Pakistan were clear favourites and the semi final loss was a major shock to all Pakistani's at the time.

On Topic. As mentioned , the 2017 CT has hurt Indians a lot. Winning and losing is part of sport but the manner of defeat against the rival team who was seen as easy pickings must be hard to take.

 

[BaankeJi]

2003 WC final loss. For the simple reason that it was a world cup.
Nothing else comes close.

 

[Mp812]

Champions trophy 2013 loss for India can be compared to Pakistani loss in Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket 1985 loss when the stronger team expected to win lost..
Both tournaments were similar..infact one can say CT is derived from B&H tournament..... and the CT 2013 win can be said that Pakistan avenged that loss.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...enson-&-hedges-world-championship-of-cricket/

But the 2003 Worldcup final loss was a case of so close but yet so far from a World cup for India and would have increased Worldcup count to 3 for India in today date.
So yes that is one loss if can be reversed in history...it would be chosen by atleast 75% to 80% of Indians one can safely assume.

 

[BaankeJi]

OP is not about what was painful. It is about what was at stake.

 

[akki]

I started watching cricket since 2002. Used to be die heart fan of cricket till 2011 -12 i guess.
I still follow cricket but not with the same passion.
The losses i wud like to omit would be
1 ) 2003 world cup final
2 ) 2007 world cup ,sri lanka beating india and india got out of cup in first round.
3 ) sydney test. It was only our series to win in australia.we outplayed australia.
4 ) when pakisan won champions trophy,didnt feel that it was that big thing but after watching all the events after that that ,realized that india shud not even let them win one big match ...

 

[Brodipet_baadshah]

2003 WC loss was tough to swallow..thats bcoz of being young and with noo proper cricketing knowledge thought we would win..but now feel stupid at even thinking about winning against that atg aussie team with the likes of dinesh mongia nd mohd.kaif loll

2015 WC semis loss was the saddest day till date...after the dominating, convincing and ruthless wins throughout the group stages nd QF matches had high expectations on SF match and alas Steve Smith happened but then again hopes were raised after the solid opening partnership and thought after spending nearly 4mnths in Australia atleast our batters acclimitized to the conditions and can chase down the target and then came the rash shot from dhawan and brain-freeze moment from King Kohli and the dreams shattered took few weeks to come out of the loss

 

[the_outsider]

They are never going to admit but 2017 CT final loss hurt them a lot and probably their top 2 painful defeats. After all that chest thumping and petty arrogance from their fans, celebrities and former cricketers, they were shown their aukat by the biggest defeat in a tournament final. Utterly humiliated. Cannot get worse than that.

I thought this question was for Indians. Or have we come to a point where you will decide what everyone thinks and feels? That's just facism, dude.

 

[the_outsider]

2003 WC loss was tough to swallow..thats bcoz of being young and with noo proper cricketing knowledge thought we would win..but now feel stupid at even thinking about winning against that atg aussie team with the likes of dinesh mongia nd mohd.kaif loll

2015 WC semis loss was the saddest day till date...after the dominating, convincing and ruthless wins throughout the group stages nd QF matches had high expectations on SF match and alas Steve Smith happened but then again hopes were raised after the solid opening partnership and thought after spending nearly 4mnths in Australia atleast our batters acclimitized to the conditions and can chase down the target and then came the rash shot from dhawan and brain-freeze moment from King Kohli and the dreams shattered took few weeks to come out of the loss

In the 2015 WC I honestly think we overachieved. Yes, I would have expected us to make it to the SF at least - which we did.

But I did not expect a team with Mohit Sharma and Rahane to go undefeated into the SF.

 

[Napa]

I have some options, you are free to comment anyone of your choice though:

1. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

2. 2007 WC loss to Bangladesh

3. 2015 WC semi final loss to Australia.

4. 2016 T20 WC loss in semis to WI

5. 2017 Champions trophy final loss to Pakistan

Which one?

Either the 2003 final loss, or the 2015 semi-final loss. If we had won the 2015 semi-final, we would probably have won the WC.

 

[The_Odd_One]

I am surprised that most Indians do not rate the 1996 WC semi-final loss their worst ever. The match had to be awarded to SL, such was the reaction from Indian fans in the stadium.

 

[Mp812]

Pretty sure if most Pakistani had this choice they would want 1999 world cup final to be ommitted or reversed and would not choose world cup losses to India to be reversed because that would not give them the world trophy

 

[The_Odd_One]

Pretty sure if most Pakistani had this choice they would want 1999 world cup final to be ommitted or reversed and would not choose world cup losses to India to be reversed because that would not give them the world trophy

For me, it was Sydney test then the 1996 WC QF loss to India.

 

[Ab Fan]

I am surprised that most Indians do not rate the 1996 WC semi-final loss their worst ever. The match had to be awarded to SL, such was the reaction from Indian fans in the stadium.

96 semis is obviously dis-heartening but I think most didnt picked that because they won't be having any live memory of that world cup. Most posters in this forum would be under-25 and were born in 90s only.

 

[The_Odd_One]

96 semis is obviously dis-heartening but I think most didnt picked that because they won't be having any live memory of that world cup. Most posters in this forum would be under-25 and were born in 90s only.

I watched that match live and remember India were doing fine with Tendulkar and Manjrekar on the crease. Arjuana then brought Sanath and then the collapse started. It was a match that India should have win. Losing at home in front of a sold-out Kolkata crowd must have been very disheartening.

 

[Ab Fan]

I watched that match live and remember India were doing fine with Tendulkar and Manjrekar on the crease. Arjuana then brought Sanath and then the collapse started. It was a match that India should have win. Losing at home in front of a sold-out Kolkata crowd must have been very disheartening.

Yes, many remember it as a dark day in Indian cricket history. A very dis-heartening moment in Indian cricket.

 

[B_Positive]

I am surprised that most Indians do not rate the 1996 WC semi-final loss their worst ever. The match had to be awarded to SL, such was the reaction from Indian fans in the stadium.

Good one. It deserves to be added in options. I didnt remember this as even I started watching cricket from 2003 WC.

 

[captain.hansolo]

I have some options, you are free to comment anyone of your choice though:

1. 2003 WC final loss to Australia.

2. 2007 WC loss to Bangladesh

3. 2015 WC semi final loss to Australia.

4. 2016 T20 WC loss in semis to WI

5. 2017 Champions trophy final loss to Pakistan

Which one?

None of those had any sort of cataclysmic effect on either the team or the composition of the team.

you could argue that the 2007 loss was torrid, but we followed that up with another horrible show against Sri Lanka demonstrating our woeful preparedness for the tournament.

The 2015 WC loss was unfortunate, but India went into the game confident and came out hurt but still confident. It was the only game we lost that tournament.

Similarly for the 2016 T20 Loss.

The 2017 Champions trophy actually has a lot of significance for Pakistan than it has for India. Had it been a best of three final, expert money would have been on India. And while the loss is unfortunately, we barely lost a thought over it, but it does serve to help Pakistan rediscover their mojo.

The loss that really demonstrated the yawning chasm between the two teams was the round robin game against Australia in the 2003 WC. That led to a significant loss of confidence, and were it not for the whirlwind performance thereafter, and a bit of luck (we had to contend with Kenya in the semi final rather than Sri Lanka), we may have come out of that tournament just as bruised and battered as Pakistan.

In the realm of test matches, the loss that still hurts me is the 1997 Test Match that we lost to West Indies where we stumbled in the chase of 120 on an absolute scorcher of a pitch. The conditions were against us, but we showed little application in the pursuit of that target.

Close at the heels of that Test match loss was the abject surrender in the 2006 Test match to Pakistan where a pedestrian batsman such as Kamran Akmal stole the game from us after having had the top order down for the count. Soon thereafter, Asif and the low bounce of the pitch sealed our fate, but had we been more clinical in the first innings and bundled out pakistan for sub 125, which we were well on path to after reducing them to 36 for 6, we lost our way.

That match also ushered in an audit of our bowling: Zaheer, Nehra, and RP Singh made for a very monolithic, predictable attack which was justly exploited.

 

[LegendAli]

OP's name and his thread are in direct conflict with each other. I would pick 2003 World Cup final loss. Its a world cup final after all. I dont think Indians are bothered with CT having already won three of those.

It wasn't about India winning the trophy at all, India lost the final to Pakistan on Father's day, come on bro it didn't matter to Indians? really?

 

[captain.hansolo]

It wasn't about India winning the trophy at all, India lost the final to Pakistan on Father's day, come on bro it didn't matter to Indians? really?

remarkably, it doesnt.

mostly because as i stated, we were in dominant form throughout the tournament and continued to demonstrate that in the match ups that followed.

a loss hurts when you are up against the odds, put in a herculean effort, and then fall just short.

 

[giri26]

2003 WC finals. 2017 CT finals was a hard loss but funnily enough it did not bother the Indian fans that much. We have moved on and no one is talking about that game anymore in India. 2003 WC finals though still hurts as it was the WC trophy which was at stake.

 

[LegendAli]

remarkably, it doesnt.

mostly because as i stated, we were in dominant form throughout the tournament and continued to demonstrate that in the match ups that followed.

a loss hurts when you are up against the odds, put in a herculean effort, and then fall just short.

Brah 3 games (after the first loss) is hardly even considered a tournament, India was what 15-2 in ICC Tournaments against Pak going into the Final?... Years and Years of ICC Tournaments not 3 games in a span of 7 days.

This was Pak vs India not your whose is better odds, favorites, underdog story by any means.

Bottom line being... Indians were hurt and humbled.

 

[giri26]

Brah 3 games (after the first loss) is hardly even considered a tournament, India was what 15-2 in ICC Tournaments against Pak going into the Final?... Years and Years of ICC Tournaments not 3 games in a span of 7 days.

This was Pak vs India not your whose is better odds, favorites, underdog story by any means.

Bottom line being... Indians were hurt and humbled.

Nope we were not. We were disappointed with the loss but we have moved on. A year later we don't care about that loss anymore. No one discusses about it and no one cares. Leave losing in the finals, Indian fans were not even talking abou the 2013 CT win after a year of the tournament, as we had moved on to concentrating on WC 2015. It was a great win for Pakistan but I think you are thinking it means more than what it should for the Indian fans. We don't care about that loss anymore. If I was not on PP, I wouldn't even be thinking about that loss now. WC 2003 hurts more because it was WC and we were playing brilliantly till the finals.

 

[BreadPakoda]

I am surprised that most Indians do not rate the 1996 WC semi-final loss their worst ever. The match had to be awarded to SL, such was the reaction from Indian fans in the stadium.

Good pick. Most of the folks here are young and might have not even watched that game. I did watch, but was very young to understand the reaction.

 

[akki]

Pretty sure if most Pakistani had this choice they would want 1999 world cup final to be ommitted or reversed and would not choose world cup losses to India to be reversed because that would not give them the world trophy

Na lies,pakistan would have won 2011 world cup 100 percent if it was not india.
Pakistan would have won 2007 t20 world cup if it was not india.
Pakistan would have won 1996 world cup if they had not lost quarter final against india in bengluru.
All other matches of t20 world cup or 50 world cup remaining mafches which pakistan lost ,made them step closer to eliminate even in first round.
Only 1992 world cup lost match to india doesnt matter,because pakistan anyway went to wiining the cup.

Rest all matters ,while some were eliminators matches as well.

 

[austerlitz]

WC 1996 Semis - on our home turf after that start.The day i first cried in sport.
Chennai test - another massive heartbreak.
2003 final i don't feel too much regret about because we lost to a better team.
2007 we weren't a team with internal problems,so sad but we would not have won that cup anyway.
2016 anything can happen in t20s and they don't mean that much anyway.
2004 home series loss to australia - tendu and kumble were not fully fit.The curator betrayed us in decider test.The one we were set up to win after viru century got washed away.Series should have been draw,they should have never conquered the final frontier.
The 2 bad losses in recent times are CT final,even though its not a world cup its still pakistan in tourney final.The other worse loss was recent south africa 1st test - we had to chase 200 and messed up despite bossing the latter end of the tour.If we had won that we would have won the first test series in south africa - almost as impressive as a world cup(almost).

 

[Smbhayi]

2017 CT.. Reason: on paper we've a strong team..
2003 it hurts but really we don't have a chance against that team...