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Which side will win the Pakistan versus Afghanistan game at the ICC T20 World Cup?

Which side will win the Pakistan versus Afghanistan game at the ICC T20 World Cup?

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So could Afghanistan be our downfall? Or can we carry the positive momentum forward?
 
As usual there will be few bumps but Pak will win. Spinners will test Pak batsmen a little bit
 
Pakistan should win, but it won't be easy. Play out Mujeeb and Rashid for an economy of 6-7, and that will be very good for us. Nabi is no slouch either, but he should be attacked a bit more. Relentlessly attack their fast bowlers. Either put 160 on the board or chase no more than 150, and we should be fine.
 
Comfortable win.

The afghan spinners have primarily been bashing minnows, without really being tested against quality intl. sides.

They'll be easily swiped aside by all 3 of Pak, Ind and NZ.
 
Very dangerous team the Afghans. They will leave a few bloody noises for sure. I won't be surprised if they beat 2 of Pak, ind, NZ. Definitely one that Pak can easily lose. Maybe 55-45 in favour of Pak - not much in it.
 
Pakistan will be unstoppable now after giving a phainty to both India and NZ. The only team that can stop them is India which can only happen in the final. :inti
 
This will be the most difficult game for us.

A game against England is more easier as you can go in with a plan.

While people think of Rashid Khan being great only, many dont know that Mujeeb Rehman is equally a great bowler. Infact, he is the best right arm offspinner operating in cricket today. He bowls good offspin and he even throws a ball that slides or goes down the other way aswell.

Thats 8 overs of quality spin. You cannot play out 8 overs, sorry. In t20, you have to attack and take on the bowlers.

Than there is Mohammad Nabi effect. Nabi while bowls good line and length deliveries, his ball does spin in UAE. Again, he is a right arm offspinner and can bring the ball into the pads.

Thus, that makes it 12 overs of spin.

One of the reasons why the chase against India was made easier was because of Kohlis bad captaincy. If Nabi makes bad decisions, we can win this. For example, Afg uses Mujeeb as an opening bowler, however, he is a bowler that is very much lethal if you bring him on late as with the new ball he might spin it less. Pakistan cant take advantage of that.

Plus, the Afghan batting is not stable. They try to hit every ball. They dont know how to fit someone like Asghar Stanikzai who likes to take his time. They dont have stroke makers thus we can force them to make mistakes while playing shots.

Issue is gonna come when we bat and have to play off 12 overs of quality spin.

Its Pakistan's game to lose
 
Barragan said:
Comfortable win.

The afghan spinners have primarily been bashing minnows, without really being tested against quality intl. sides.

They'll be easily swiped aside by all 3 of Pak, Ind and NZ.
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sorry, you are wrong.

Afghanistan has got a very good spin attack. Mujeeb Ur Rehman, Rashid Khan, Qais Ahmad, Zahir Khan, Sharafuddin Ashraf and Nabi have dominated in cricket due to the quality spin bowling these guys provide.

Afghanistan is playing with Mujeeb, Rashid and Nabi. All three are quality bowlers. Mujeeb Ur Rehman is the only right offspiner that bowls with a legal action and can bring spin on the ball.

These afghan spinners play in leagues and perform well. There spin quality is there for everyone to see.

Not an opponent to take lightly. Especially due to the fact we arn't good players of spin. Hafeez, Malik and Asif Ali are expect to perform agianst them.
 
Geez all this overhyping the minnow. I think we are forgetting that Afghanistan batsmen will also be facing spinners from the opposition team if it is a spinning track.

Last time I checked the Afghan batting line up didnt contain any Haydens, Babars or Rohits of this world.

Its all well and good when you smash & bash Scotland, Namibia or an unmotivated WI bowling attack. Its a complete story when you face a quality opponent.

Bangladesh has been shown their true worth at a world stage in this tournament. Afghanistan will be also be shown a mirror soon.
 
Major said:
This will be the most difficult game for us.

A game against England is more easier as you can go in with a plan.

While people think of Rashid Khan being great only, many dont know that Mujeeb Rehman is equally a great bowler. Infact, he is the best right arm offspinner operating in cricket today. He bowls good offspin and he even throws a ball that slides or goes down the other way aswell.

Thats 8 overs of quality spin. You cannot play out 8 overs, sorry. In t20, you have to attack and take on the bowlers.

Than there is Mohammad Nabi effect. Nabi while bowls good line and length deliveries, his ball does spin in UAE. Again, he is a right arm offspinner and can bring the ball into the pads.

Thus, that makes it 12 overs of spin.

One of the reasons why the chase against India was made easier was because of Kohlis bad captaincy. If Nabi makes bad decisions, we can win this. For example, Afg uses Mujeeb as an opening bowler, however, he is a bowler that is very much lethal if you bring him on late as with the new ball he might spin it less. Pakistan cant take advantage of that.

Plus, the Afghan batting is not stable. They try to hit every ball. They dont know how to fit someone like Asghar Stanikzai who likes to take his time. They dont have stroke makers thus we can force them to make mistakes while playing shots.

Issue is gonna come when we bat and have to play off 12 overs of quality spin.

Its Pakistan's game to lose
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Rashid khan is definitely a great bowler but Mujeeb is nowhere near at the moment, minus his performance against the minnows and his figures aren’t spectacular, he didn’t even get a game in the ipl for Hyderabad. Nabi these days is as threatening as Malik with the ball.

When it comes to batting the majority Afghan batsmen are hacks, if we stick to our plans and and don’t deviate or get put off if a few swings go for 6 we should win comfortably.

I’m not saying it will be a walkover but realistically we should be beating this team 9/10 with our experience
 
It will be a pressure game for sure due to obvious reasons. Pak should win, but they will need to stay calm and not get too personal.
 
silentkiller187 said:
Rashid khan is definitely a great bowler but Mujeeb is nowhere near at the moment, minus his performance against the minnows and his figures aren’t spectacular, he didn’t even get a game in the ipl for Hyderabad. Nabi these days is as threatening as Malik with the ball.

When it comes to batting the majority Afghan batsmen are hacks, if we stick to our plans and and don’t deviate or get put off if a few swings go for 6 we should win comfortably.

I’m not saying it will be a walkover but realistically we should be beating this team 9/10 with our experience
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you are underestimating Mujeeb my friend.
 
Afganistan should not be taken lightly we must stay focus otherwise afganistan can upset Pakistan
 
Afghan batsmen are big hitters.T20 is tailor made for them.Then they have good spinners so it will be tricky game.Afghan batsmen must not be given any room to hit big shots.
 
Toss will be a big factor given dew and Afghan having so many spinners. But this will be a very difficult match. If we bat first and are unable to play their spinners - they could get us out very cheaply.
 
gazza619 said:
Geez all this overhyping the minnow. I think we are forgetting that Afghanistan batsmen will also be facing spinners from the opposition team if it is a spinning track.

Last time I checked the Afghan batting line up didnt contain any Haydens, Babars or Rohits of this world.

Its all well and good when you smash & bash Scotland, Namibia or an unmotivated WI bowling attack. Its a complete story when you face a quality opponent.

Bangladesh has been shown their true worth at a world stage in this tournament. Afghanistan will be also be shown a mirror soon.
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Serious question

When was the last time we won comfortably against Afghanistan.?
 
Major said:
sorry, you are wrong.

Afghanistan has got a very good spin attack. Mujeeb Ur Rehman, Rashid Khan, Qais Ahmad, Zahir Khan, Sharafuddin Ashraf and Nabi have dominated in cricket due to the quality spin bowling these guys provide.

Afghanistan is playing with Mujeeb, Rashid and Nabi. All three are quality bowlers. Mujeeb Ur Rehman is the only right offspiner that bowls with a legal action and can bring spin on the ball.

These afghan spinners play in leagues and perform well. There spin quality is there for everyone to see.

Not an opponent to take lightly. Especially due to the fact we arn't good players of spin. Hafeez, Malik and Asif Ali are expect to perform agianst them.
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This is my take on it as well. Obviously Pakistan must start as favourites, simply because I don't think Afghan batting matches up, but Pakistan batsmen aren't great players of spin these days, so a couple of early wickets would cause them problems.

I still expect Pakistan to win, but they will have to show good discipline. Afghans not only have good spinners, they have one or two big hitting batsmen as well.
 
Pakistan at the top of their game should beat Afghanistan ten out of ten times.
The only thing that stands between an easy win or a hard fought win is complacency.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is my take on it as well. Obviously Pakistan must start as favourites, simply because I don't think Afghan batting matches up, but Pakistan batsmen aren't great players of spin these days, so a couple of early wickets would cause them problems.

I still expect Pakistan to win, but they will have to show good discipline. Afghans not only have good spinners, they have one or two big hitting batsmen as well.
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im just surprised how fans here are really under rating the Afghan team as if they are just a very minnow team. Many don't know this team well, and we should be expected a one sided dominance. Afghanistan has the same chance to win this game as does Pakistan.
 
Major said:
im just surprised how fans here are really under rating the Afghan team as if they are just a very minnow team. Many don't know this team well, and we should be expected a one sided dominance. Afghanistan has the same chance to win this game as does Pakistan.
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For one I agree with you.

They are gonna be super pumped, and have quality bowlers.

If their batsman click it will be a very tough game.

We already saw on of there openers smash it around in the psl
 
Major said:
im just surprised how fans here are really under rating the Afghan team as if they are just a very minnow team. Many don't know this team well, and we should be expected a one sided dominance. Afghanistan has the same chance to win this game as does Pakistan.
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They don't have the same chance...they have an outside chance. You have to look at this Afghan team and ask yourself, would you fancy them to beat Australia or NZ? They might win one game out of 10.

Ok Pakistan are a bit more brittle than those countries, but still need to look at it how a neutral would. How many neutrals would put money on Afghans beating Pakistan right now? Pakistan just needs to avoid complacency as IMMY69 has said.
 
This is probably Pakistan's biggest game. Rashid Khan, Mujeeb ur Rahman and Mohammad Nabi can cause any team strife albeit Pakistan specially since Pakistanis batters struggles against spin over the last couple of years.

The problem is Afghan batters struggle even more against pace bowlers and with the height of Shaheen and pace of Haris, they will struggle add to the fact that the match will take place in Dubai as a opposed to Sharjah.

If Afghans use Mujeeb and Rashid Khan between overs 6-14, Pakistan will struggle. Just look at 2019WC at Headingley, how once Imam got stumped, Pakistan just dropped to Imad and Wahab saving the game at the end also thanks to Shadab Khan.

So Pakistan have got to be careful. Win the toss and bowl first. But if they lose the toss and have to bat first, bring Malik at No.3. Hafeez, Fakhar and Asif are not good players of spin so bring Malik at No.3, maybe Hassan Ali up the order.
 
gazza619 said:
Geez all this overhyping the minnow. I think we are forgetting that Afghanistan batsmen will also be facing spinners from the opposition team if it is a spinning track.

Last time I checked the Afghan batting line up didnt contain any Haydens, Babars or Rohits of this world.

Its all well and good when you smash & bash Scotland, Namibia or an unmotivated WI bowling attack. Its a complete story when you face a quality opponent.

Bangladesh has been shown their true worth at a world stage in this tournament. Afghanistan will be also be shown a mirror soon.
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Do you not remember the last time they almost beat us in the Asia Cup? Their batsmen were hitting our pacers out the park. We were saved by Malik.

Do you not remember the last time they almost beat us in the WC? We were saved by Imad Wasim and the Afghan captain Gulbadin Naib.

Afghanistan is not a minnow in T20’s, their spin attack is literally the best in the world atm. They have aggressive openers in Zazai and Shehzad.

We need to stop judging their team based on hate and politics. Afghanistan have already gone 2-3 levels above Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. For a war torn country, that’s ridiculously insane.
 
That Malik innings in Asia Cup was something to behold - I was present to watch it and still gives me goosebumps!
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
They don't have the same chance...they have an outside chance. You have to look at this Afghan team and ask yourself, would you fancy them to beat Australia or NZ? They might win one game out of 10.

Ok Pakistan are a bit more brittle than those countries, but still need to look at it how a neutral would. How many neutrals would put money on Afghans beating Pakistan right now? Pakistan just needs to avoid complacency as IMMY69 has said.
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Yes i would fancy them to beat NZ and Australia on an equal chance.

Mujeeb, Rashid and Nabi are world class bowlers
 
Too much hype, it will be one sided Pakistan win. What do Afghanistan have apart from a couple of spinners.
 
DUBAI: Rashid Khan has pleaded with Afghanistan and Pakistan fans to behave when the two neighbours meet in the T20 World Cup on Friday after a match in England two years ago was scarred by fighting and a pitch invasion.

Afghanistan's star spinner Rashid played in that 50-over World Cup game at a packed Headingley in Leeds in 2019.

His side suffered an agonising defeat but the result was overshadowed by violence and scuffles inside and outside the stadium.

Players needed security escorts off the pitch as fans poured out of the terraces.

Friday's game in Dubai could be tense as both teams are undefeated and chasing semi-final places.

A weekend capacity crowd is expected from amongst the huge expatriate population of both nations who live and work in the Gulf.

"Definitely it's always a good game against Pakistan, but this should remain as a game," Rashid said Thursday.

"I request all the fans to stay cool and calm and just enjoy the game. What happened in the 2019 match should not have happened."

Rashid claimed four wickets and fellow spinner Mujeeb Ur Rahman took five as Afghanistan started their T20 World Cup in style, bowling out Scotland for just 60 in reply to their mammoth 190-4.

However, the Afghanistan team came into the tournament under the threat of a ban due to the ruling Taliban government's hardline stance on women's sport.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) -- which makes it mandatory for all member countries to have men's and women's teams -- said it has been monitoring the situation and will discuss the matter in its meeting in Dubai next month.

Afghanistan cricket chief Azizullah Fazli told AFP at the start of the tournament: "Our government is streamlining things and women's cricket will also be streamlined."

Rashid said that the squad is trying just to focus on the tournament.

"We have only the World Cup in mind, we're playing five games and we need to win three games," said the 23-year-old.

"We don't think about what's happening. We don't think about what happened in the past. That is something which is not in our hands, it is not in our control.

"We shouldn't think about it, we don't want extra pressure on us. As a team, we're just focusing on this World Cup to get better and better."

Afghanistan smashed 11 sixes and 13 boundaries in their rout of Scotland in Sharjah.

But Rashid said hitting aggressive shots is not the team's only objective.

"To be honest, we don't have that kind of mindset, like, you have to focus on hitting so many sixes," he said.

"But you have to adjust yourself with the wicket.

"I think we need to play good cricket. It's not about getting too many sixes. These grounds are very hard to hit sixes. The wickets are not as good to hit the sixes."

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-vs-pakistan-clash-after-2019-violence/827465
 
Don’t like the way some of our ex players are spreading fear and doubt in regards to this Afghanistan side, especially Younis Khan.

Pakistan are more than equipped to handle any threat of spin, plus their pace bowling resources look the best in the tournament at the moment. Also, 2 form batsmen at the top plus new found form in Asif Ali and confidence in Asif Ali. We have at least 9-10 guys who bat in this team
 
We have to be very careful and not take the Afghans for granted. We are not yet assured of a place in the semis.
If Afghanistan beat us, all they will be needing is to beat NZ and Namibia to qualify. They have an amazing NRR of +6 after their heavy win against Scotland. Now if India win all their games, which they will then Pakistan, Afghanistan and India will end up with equal points with NRR deciding who goes through. India and Afghanistan may just pip us for the semi final spots
 
Artaxerxes said:
Afghan batsmen are big hitters.T20 is tailor made for them.Then they have good spinners so it will be tricky game.Afghan batsmen must not be given any room to hit big shots.
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Only Zazai is good.. MS will be gassed out if he survives 10 balls...
 
Afghanistan is no minnow. They have one of the most dangerous attacks in the tournament precisely because those spinners have as much experience bowling on those UAE wickets, as Pakistani bowlers do.

That said, without the spin trio of Rashid, Mujeeb and Nabi; their bowling is fairly toothless. And though the batting has alot of six hitting ability, you can blow holes right through them by bowling well and testing their technique.

Expect it to be a good game that Pakistan should win without much drama. Hopefully nothing like the 2018 and 2019 matches which were not good for my nails or my anxiety.
 
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Spin friendly pitches and the shortest format are Afgjanistan's strengths. However, Pakistan should blast them apart with ease.
 
Afghans. Best spin attack in world cricket by a mile. Their 2 spinners would walk into the Pak side along with Zazai and arguablly the seamer who plays for Leicester (instead of Hasan Ali). Very dangerous side - we must be wary. A huge banana skin and the Afghans are prepared to sweat blood to win this. Not sure the Pak team knows whats coming.
 
Pakistan will do well to win - and not try anything silly like trying to up the NRR etc.
 
MenInG said:
Pakistan will do well to win - and not try anything silly like trying to up the NRR etc.
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Lol there is no need to worry about run rate at all.
We got Namibia and Scotland up next and if we lose one of those we deserve to go home

On this game we need to not be chasing more than 150 and even that will be tough
 
Mujeeb has bowled well. Told you guys he is a very good spinner and pakistan rightly played him safe.
 
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