What options are open to the PCB after ICC rejected Pakistan’s demand to drop Andy Pycroft as match referee?

[deep82]

Tu karle boycott.

Pakistan embarrassed your nation forcing them into ceasefire. Taking dictation from the US.

Karlo boycott!

Thanda ho jaa, Rana!

I am supporting your PCB chairmain, Mohsin Naqvi.
You should, too.

 

[Hellion]

PCB shouldn't actually do anything. Pakistanis are the ones with larger hearts.


India's insecure government has shamelessly given the green light to this Asia Cup and are now putting pressure on the cricketers while absolving themselves of all blame.

This supposedly right wing government can't even stand for the jawaans and will sell their own mothers for money.

 

[Boyka]

We want a thriller!

This should be reason enough for the Pakistani players to come out with guns blazing.

These kind of situations can bring out the best in you.

Yes, let’s hope so. If Naqvi somehow galvanises them through these shenanigans he’s a genius. Otherwise I haven’t a clue what he’s trying to achieve or what this is about.

 

[Obaidd]

We need the Pak vs uae pre-match thread

Handshake and pakvsind is boring…

Why isn’t there a pak vs uae pre-match thread yet? Even as a fan my focus is on that now, I am sure players on both sides would be thinking about next match not this lameness..

 

[Obaidd]

Yes, let’s hope so. If Naqvi somehow galvanises them through these shenanigans he’s a genius. Otherwise I haven’t a clue what he’s trying to achieve or what this is about.

Diverting attention/ diffusing the initial reaction/ taking attention/ doing all of this hand in hand with BCCI because the SKY-Naqvi handshake was significant. Naqvi became ACC president with Shah’s blessings too.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Pakistan Bans Andy Pycroft Entry to Pakistan​

Pakistan Bans Andy Pycroft Entry - Daily Times

Pakistan has banned referee Andy Pycroft from entering the country. The decision came after the Pakistan-India match controversy. Officials said his biased role damaged the fairness of the game. The Ministry of Interior confirmed the ban.

dailytimes.com.pk

Surely this is satire.

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

We want a thriller!

This should be reason enough for the Pakistani players to come out with guns blazing.

These kind of situations can bring out the best in you.

Guns with no ammo ?

 

[AZulfi]

Can we call it handshake-gate?

All these distractions would be a non-issue if the team were performing well.

 

[Inswing]

Go on and play. Just beat India and dedicate the victory to Jaffer express victims, Pakistan armed forces and Kashmiri freedom fighters.

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC..

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT PAHALGAM OR CEASEFIRE ETC

 

[Devadwal]

As I said earlier PCB wil get face saving from ACC by removing match referee from Pakistan match Only.

If Pakistan have any iota of self-respect they should boycott as earlier said by PCB through Pakistan journalist.

My prediction's are Mostly right. Pakistan got the lollipop by ICC.

Now stop crying , know your team standard and play cricket .

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

When will this nonsense end? When is PCB supposed to give their answer? 5 minutes before toss?

 

[Abid Z]

Really this is becoming embarrassing. Theres talk of Pak leaving the tournament. Nothing will please India more…well perhaps loss to UAE. A win today will be hard fought Pak need to focus.

Pak need to keep their chin up. From cornered tigers to whimpering cats

 

[Hellion]

Really this is becoming embarrassing. Theres talk of Pak leaving the tournament. Nothing will please India more…well perhaps loss to UAE. A win today will be hard fought Pak need to focus.

Pak need to keep their chin up. From cornered tigers to whimpering cats

To be honest, this is poor from the Indian government and all their sycophants who support every decision of theirs. And there's no two ways about it.

They don't have the cajones to say no to this tournament and now are forcing SKY and the BCCI to take up petty measures.

 

[Devadwal]

A middle ground appears to have been reached between the PCB and the ICC, thanks to the intervention of the Emirates Cricket Board and Oman Cricket

A resolution on the matter is expected soon.

Source - Cricbuzz

 

[Abid Z]

To be honest, this is poor from the Indian government and all their sycophants who support every decision of theirs. And there's no two ways about it.

They don't have the cajones to say no to this tournament and now are forcing SKY and the BCCI to take up petty measures.

the Indian government are like rabid dogs infecting everything they touch. All their allies bangladesh, Afghanistan, USA are turning against them towards Pak. When Pak has the moral upper hand why would they give that up. Just play cricket and tough cricket.

In the middle of the Cold War USA and USSR competed in sports. We can be bigger in this moment.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Serious question: can someone explain to me why Pycroft is being blamed by PCB?

And in any case it seems that Pakistan has part of what it wanted from the ICC anyway: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...hed-with-icc-pcb-insider-101758076226715.html

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

the Indian government are like rabid dogs infecting everything they touch. All their allies bangladesh, Afghanistan, USA are turning against them towards Pak. When Pak has the moral upper hand why would they give that up. Just play cricket and tough cricket.

In the middle of the Cold War USA and USSR competed in sports. We can be bigger in this moment.

Just an added factoid: The USA did boycott the entire 1980 Olympics held in Soviet Russia, and convinced 60 nations to do it too.

 

[Rana]

Serious question: can someone explain to me why Pycroft is being blamed by PCB?

And in any case it seems that Pakistan has part of what it wanted from the ICC anyway: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...hed-with-icc-pcb-insider-101758076226715.html

This was posted by an Pakistani journalist who is quite poor at English:

“As per Sources Match referee Andy Pycroft deliberately orchestrated everything; ACC’s internal investigation has been completed.Internal investigation against match referee Andy Pycroft completed.Solid evidence has emerged of the match referee’s collusion with Indian officials.Violation of the code of conduct by the match referee: at the instruction of the venue manager belonging to India, Salman Ali Agha was stopped,To save Suryakumar Yadav from a fine, the match referee avoided action over the phrase “Operation Sindoor,”.
At the exact time of the toss, the match referee told Salman Agha to mute his mic and just listen.
The referee is only bound to send messages through the team manager; stopping Salman Agha just 30 seconds before was pre-planned.”

It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but what I gather from it is that the PCB feels bullied by Pycroft as if he was assisting Suurya and the Indian management in conveying the political message.

There is no smoke without fire. I think this guy has been naughty.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

A middle ground appears to have been reached between the PCB and the ICC, thanks to the intervention of the Emirates Cricket Board and Oman Cricket

A resolution on the matter is expected soon.

Source - Cricbuzz

Oman Cricket?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

There is no smoke without fire. I think this guy has been naughty.

So what, we should spank him?

What happens if Richie Richardson does something similar?

 

[Devadwal]

Oman Cricket?

This is not my opinion but cricbuzz reporting this news.

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistan has 0 options. Just forget everything move on and play like always like this never happened. That’s probably the most likely outcome anyway. Kuch aur nahi milega

 

[Devadwal]

Asian Cricket Council has tweeted about Pakistan vs UAE game and then all of sudden, they have deleted it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This is not my opinion but cricbuzz reporting this news.

I know. It's just funny to hear Oman Cricket get involved. They barely have a cricket team

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

It's not like Indians will now start shaking hands once Pycroft is gone if Pakistan make it to the next round.

A precedent has been set and they will be eaten alive by the Indian public if they do.

This "no handshake" has at least given Indians some solace after not boycotting the Asia Cup.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Asian Cricket Council has tweeted about Pakistan vs UAE game and then all of sudden, they have deleted it.

Does this give Jay Shah the perfect opportunity to kick out Pakistan? If he holds fast on Pycroft, Pak will have to either suck it up or withdraw.

 

[Devadwal]

Does this give Jay Shah the perfect opportunity to kick out Pakistan? If he holds fast on Pycroft, Pak will have to either suck it up or withdraw.

I don't think so. Matter is already resolved and pakistan will play the match as per schedule .

There's no point in making the situation worse.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It's not like Indians will now start shaking hands once Pycroft is gone if Pakistan make it to the next round.

A precedent has been set and they will be eaten alive by the Indian public if they do.

This "no handshake" has at least given Indians some solace after not boycotting the Asia Cup.

If someone finds solace in this then it just shows how stupid and small-minded they are. The moment you decide to play with Pakistan, you have already thrown all your principles out the window. It's kinda amazing how the masses are played like a piano by their respective governments, and instead of questioning them or being critical, people go:" thank you sir, may I have some more?"

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

If someone finds solace in this then it just shows how stupid and small-minded they are. The moment you decide to play with Pakistan, you have already thrown all your principles out the window. It's kinda amazing how the masses are played like a piano by their respective governments, and instead of questioning them or being critical, people go:" thank you sir, may I have some more?"

I am not talking about what should happen but what will happen.

 

[PAKFAN12]

ICC emergency meeting underway in Dubai over PCB’s demand to remove match referee Andy Pycroft. Sources say Pakistan’s participation in the tournament now hinges on his replacement & a genuine inquiry. Decision expected before today’s Pak-UAE clash.

SOURCE: SAMAA

 

[Adiram]

They should boycott Indian games until India are planning to be respectful. I think that would be the ideal response.

Cricket is supposed to be a classy gentlemen's sport. The petty behavior India have been showing doesn't belong in cricket.

Hope you remember and can re collect Nagini dances by your team and your bowler Taskin Ahmed photo carrying the head of Dhoni etc. So you couldnt see the petty behaviour of your team that time. Hilarious.

 

[Rana]

ICC emergency meeting underway in Dubai over PCB’s demand to remove match referee Andy Pycroft. Sources say Pakistan’s participation in the tournament now hinges on his replacement & a genuine inquiry. Decision expected before today’s Pak-UAE clash.

SOURCE: SAMAA

They got what they wanted?

What do they want now? To have Pycroft executed?

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

They got what they wanted?

What do they want now? To have Pycroft executed?

I think they just want to boycott and just putting in fake demands.

Cause if they go to the second round handshake situation will happen again.

 

[mominsaigol]

ICC emergency meeting underway in Dubai over PCB’s demand to remove match referee Andy Pycroft. Sources say Pakistan’s participation in the tournament now hinges on his replacement & a genuine inquiry. Decision expected before today’s Pak-UAE clash.

SOURCE: SAMAA

SAMAA TV

 

[sweep_shot]

It's not like Indians will now start shaking hands once Pycroft is gone if Pakistan make it to the next round.

A precedent has been set and they will be eaten alive by the Indian public if they do.

This "no handshake" has at least given Indians some solace after not boycotting the Asia Cup.

Do you personally support "no handshake" with Pakistani players?

If that is the case, why are you on PP which is a Pakistani forum? LOL.

If I don't like a community, I wouldn't go to their forum and be active there. That would be hypocritical.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Do you personally support "no handshake" with Pakistani players?

If that is the case, why are you on PP which is a Pakistani forum? LOL.

If I don't like a community, I wouldn't go to their forum and be active there. That would be hypocritical.

I am not shaking hands

 

[BouncerGuy]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I am not talking about what should happen but what will happen.

You said Indian players not shaking hands with Pakistani players has given Indians some solace. I said that you have to be really stupid and small-minded to find solace from something like this when your government has already thrown their principles out the window by playing Pakistan.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Should leave the tournament, their is no point backing off after making the big statement.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Oman Cricket?

team relocating to Muscat, Oman & playing match via Zoom call

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

This was posted by an Pakistani journalist who is quite poor at English:

“As per Sources Match referee Andy Pycroft deliberately orchestrated everything; ACC’s internal investigation has been completed.Internal investigation against match referee Andy Pycroft completed.Solid evidence has emerged of the match referee’s collusion with Indian officials.Violation of the code of conduct by the match referee: at the instruction of the venue manager belonging to India, Salman Ali Agha was stopped,To save Suryakumar Yadav from a fine, the match referee avoided action over the phrase “Operation Sindoor,”.
At the exact time of the toss, the match referee told Salman Agha to mute his mic and just listen.
The referee is only bound to send messages through the team manager; stopping Salman Agha just 30 seconds before was pre-planned.”

It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but what I gather from it is that the PCB feels bullied by Pycroft as if he was assisting Suurya and the Indian management in conveying the political message.

There is no smoke without fire. I think this guy has been naughty.

Cheers but I can make no sense of that either.

And I haven’t read anything convincing that Pycroft was responsible.

PCB’s outrage against BCCI/ India is Imo comical but not unjustified. Stupid, childish, petulant to not shake hands.

But unless there’s new evidence I’ve missed, their attitude to Pycroft only seems like manufactured outrage.

 

[shamaan]

I hope they cancel it.

 

[PakPremi]

Match has been cancelled for an hour, Najam Sethi and Ramiz Raja being consulted, and ICC are holding another consultation with PCB.

 

[Local.Dada]

On a serious note: dumb move by Pakistan board

SKY post-match or no handshake might have angered them and rightly so from their perspective but

Firstly the insane overreaction to the speech, focusing on the match referee of all people randomly and threatening a boycott was so bizarre.

Ab paisa bhi gaya and opportunity at another shot at India.

Back to timepass forum for many new cricket fans I think. Nothing to see here. Stick a fork in this one.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Is this how a professional board runs? If you have a decision to make it. You make it. These are sensitive matters for the game and players mentally.

Imagine you as a player wondering if the match will go ahead or not, less than an hour before toss and you are still in your hotel.

All of this fiasco of the field must have 100% affected the players mental focus on the game.

If Pakistani players don't perform up to the mark in today's game. Let this thread be a mark that no blame must go to players only. The PCB as a whole would've failed to serve Pakistan Cricket in that case.

 

[Mockingbird]

Just shows that the intention was never to boycott, but to score points by holding ICC hostage. Even if they declare victory and get the referee removed, what have they achieved here - Will India apologise for its actions? Did anybody think through what is the end goal here?

Much ado over nothing.

 

[Azaad]

This whole sport is a joke! It has 3/4 good teams, and the rest are in complete shambles both skill & governance wise... with the mindless pcb being the leader of this clueless pack

 

[Snowflake]

Let’s see how the whole situation pans out before making a comment.

I absolutely detest this board - but let’s see what the outcome is of this whole fiasco.

 

[Rana]

The thrill of being a Pakistan fan

 

[HalBass9]

It’s the PCB, the undisputed champions of indecisiveness. The entire system, both political and cricketing, survives on presenting themselves for the moment, because that’s literally all they’ve got. The moment. Blink, and they’re either announcing retirement or being shown the door by a Whatsapp message.

One minute it's back the youth, the next minute it's quick, call that 38 year old uncle who once hit a six during the Musharraf era.

 

[Snowflake]

Just shows that the intention was never to boycott, but to score points by holding ICC hostage. Even if they declare victory and get the referee removed, what have they achieved here - Will India apologise for its actions? Did anybody think what is the end goal here?

Much ado over nothing.

Getting the official in question removed is not a small thing - no need to devalue your board like that.

No one ever asked for India to apologize. Since this happened, PCB has been after Pycrofts case. So, if they do get him removed thats big

 

[BreadPakoda]

One minute it's back the youth, the next minute it's quick, call that 38 year old uncle who once hit a six during the Musharraf era.

For someone who’s around that age, I don’t accept that Musharraf regime was our “era”. More like 2009-2016

 

[Mockingbird]

Getting the official in question removed is not a small thing - no need to devalue your board like that.

No one ever asked for India to apologize. Since this happened, PCB has been after Pycrofts case. So, if they do get him removed thats big

But why? All he did was communicate India’s decision of not shaking hands. Did he have any power in him to enforce anything? Why make him a scapegoat over the whole fiasco?

If PCB thinks that BCCI insulted it, fair enough - walk out altogether or file a suit or whatever. But going after the referee is stupid.

 

[Local.Dada]

To be honest one of the reasons why teams don’t invite Pakistan for long or marquee series. More than the players there is always some foolish drama when PCB is involved.

We just played a heated 5 test series with England. Lot of fire and intensity but a line wasn’t crossed.

Players are illiterate or from some village is a foolish excuse. Indian cricketers come from humble backgrounds too and not PHD’s .

Always some foolish drama. Could have avoided all this tamasha, just play and get on with it. As a fav cricketer of mine once said you win or you learn. Stop this tamasha

 

[RyanRyan10]

But why? All he did was communicate India’s decision of not shaking hands. Did he have any power in him to enforce anything? Why make him a scapegoat over the whole fiasco?

If PCB thinks that BCCI insulted it, fair enough - walk out altogether or file a suit or whatever. But going after the referee is stupid.

Hum Referee ko hi attack korrega, homara morzi

 

[RyanRyan10]

To be honest one of the reasons why teams don’t invite Pakistan for long or marquee series. More than the players there is always some foolish drama when PCB is involved.

We just played a heated 5 test series with England. Lot of fire and intensity but a line wasn’t crossed.

Players are illiterate or from some village is a foolish excuse. Indian cricketers come from humble backgrounds too and not PHD’s .

Always some foolish drama. Could have avoided all this tamasha, just play and get on with it. As a fav cricketer of mine once said you win or you learn. Stop this tamasha

If Misbah was the Pakistan captain or the PCB Chief then such situation wouldn't have arisen

 

[JaDed]

When you take the unpredictability tag personally.

 

[Local.Dada]

If Misbah was the Pakistan captain or the PCB Chief then such situation wouldn't have arisen

There is a pattern. Misbah is an MBA, educated guy and never said anything controversial. A thorough gentleman. He is most hated on here.

Afridi has said some of the most racist and bigoted things (all documented) on national TV and media, Mo Yusuf runs his mouth irresponsibly but apparently they are heroes and celebrated.

Make whatever of that.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Hum Referee ko hi attack korrega, homara morzi

Brilliant! I even read that in that accent and style.

 

[HalBass9]

To be honest one of the reasons why teams don’t invite Pakistan for long or marquee series. More than the players there is always some foolish drama when PCB is involved.

We just played a heated 5 test series with England. Lot of fire and intensity but a line wasn’t crossed.

Players are illiterate or from some village is a foolish excuse. Indian cricketers come from humble backgrounds too and not PHD’s .

Always some foolish drama. Could have avoided all this tamasha, just play and get on with it. As a fav cricketer of mine once said you win or you learn. Stop this tamasha

The only country that do not invite Pakistan is India, rest have and will continue to.

So when you begin your comment with "To be honest" then please be "honest" to yourself.

 

[Ball Blazer]

The ICC’s match referee, Andy Pycroft, has apologized to the manager and captain of the Pakistan cricket team.

Andy Pycroft had barred the captains of India and Pakistan from shaking hands during their match.

The Pakistan Cricket Board had strongly reacted to Andy Pycroft’s actions.

Andy Pycroft termed the September 14 incident a result of miscommunication and apologized.

The ICC has expressed its willingness to conduct an inquiry into the code of conduct violation that occurred during the September 14 match.

 

[Snowflake]

But why? All he did was communicate India’s decision of not shaking hands. Did he have any power in him to enforce anything? Why make him a scapegoat over the whole fiasco?

If PCB thinks that BCCI insulted it, fair enough - walk out altogether or file a suit or whatever. But going after the referee is stupid.

Because the referee asked the captains not to shake hands. That is the line of BCCI and PCB feels that it is inappropriate for an ICC official to ask something that is against the spirit of the game on the whims of one cricket board.

PCB believe ICC should stay neutral and not to toe the line of BCCI. If Indians don’t want to shake hands, fine. It’s their right. But ICC should not be their spokesperson