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What are the top strategies PCB can consider for hosting Champions Trophy 2025 after India’s refusal to visit Pakistan?

What are the strategies PCB can consider for hosting CT 2025 after India refusal to visit Pakiistan

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Best solution for PCB will be to give away CT hosting rights and instead ask for 2038 and 2040 ICC T20 World cup rights and hope by that time Modi and BJP is not in power.
 
Devadwal said:
Just wait for few more days ( less than a week) . You will get big reality check like all others delusion pakistan fan's. :kp
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What reality check? Most people are fully aware there’s slim to none chances of India coming. Doesn’t mean I or anyone else agrees with it. You seem to think there’s some sort of big bombshell coming and then you’ll come on here and wag your tail at everyone.
 
PCB should accept the hybrid model as this will be the first ICC tournament in Pakistan since 1996. No need to cancel or boycott.

Moving forward, PCB should adopt a strategy of not playing India in India or ICC tournaments, even though the later will seriously hit Pakistan’s bottom line.
 
Former PCB chairman Najam Sethi speaking during a TV show:

"I will tell you one thing. ICC will always side with India. Remember this. Now, if they move the tournament to Sri Lanka or Dubai, and Pakistan doesn't participate, then it will cost the ICC and also India & Pakistan because the ICC revenues are distributed in a portion. Major portion goes to India and the fourth portion goes to Pakistan.

"It doesn't bother India much. They (BCCI) are very rich. But it matters a lot for Pakistan if their revenues drop. That will be another issue for Pakistan."

"Will they (PCB) take this issue to a logical end? And what is a logical end to this? It means if you have rejected a hybrid model after India refused to come and also rejected playing in another country, then you won't play in the future ICC events also. So you are basically going to push yourself out of the ICC. And if you do that, then what will remain besides bilateral cricket? You don't make much money in bilateral cricket because it is reciprocal."

"So the thing is that then Pakistan will find it difficult. Whoever is making these decisions, they should think what is its logic? India knows its logic behind the boycott, they can sustain it. They have done it before...ICC will then be compelled. But what will Pakistan do?...So my advice is that whoever is making the decisions should think wisely and not emotionally."

"If they (PCB) understand that this is a diplomatic negotiation tactic, that they won't play if the tournament is taken somewhere else and then you make a u-turn and agree to play based on conditions that you get to host, say, 8-10 matches instead of 4-6. Is it (such) a tactic? I don't know."
 
nuttyprof said:
Or rather PCB cannot afford to showcase hatred anymore.
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Why are you guys always resorting to whataboutism? Your compatriots get defensive and refer to something from 40 years ago in order to justify using BCCI financial clout to damage Pakistan.

Are you ashamed of it? Why not just say this is our policy, like it or lump it. Instead you end up crowing over finances, then when you get called out on it, resort to mealy mouthed "security issues" or "BUT...BUT...Pakistan!"

Show some guts and speak plainly.
 
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Cpt. Rishwat said:
Why are you guys always resorting to whataboutism? Your compatriots get defensive and refer to something from 40 years ago in order to justify using BCCI financial clout to damage Pakistan.

Are you ashamed of it? Why not just say this is our policy, like it or lump it. Instead you end up crowing over finances, then when you get called out on it, resort to mealy mouthed "security issues" or "BUT...BUT...Pakistan!"

Show some guts and speak plainly.
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Our policy is to give back to PCB what they tried to give us.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Our policy is to give back to PCB what they tried to give us.
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I really have no idea what you are referring to but since the date you keep mentioning was in the 1990's perhaps you can refresh our memories since I would think a large percentage of our posters would not have even been born then.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Why are you guys always resorting to whataboutism? Your compatriots get defensive and refer to something from 40 years ago in order to justify using BCCI financial clout to damage Pakistan.

Are you ashamed of it? Why not just say this is our policy, like it or lump it. Instead you end up crowing over finances, then when you get called out on it, resort to mealy mouthed "security issues" or "BUT...BUT...Pakistan!"

Show some guts and speak plainly.
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So the problem is Pakistan cannot afford to mix politics with cricket. When it could afford to, it did. So Pakistani commentators and pp’ers take fake moral high ground.
Coming to India. India is standing up for itself prolly the first time and it can afford to. i would have preferred completely ban and isolation of PCB. But that doesn’t mean there are no legit security concerns for ICT on playing in Pakistan
 
Itachi said:
It's about principles.

Would you change your stance if it's not Pakistan that is in losing end here but let's say Afghanistan or Kenya or Uganda?
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Principle stand would be not to play Pakistan at all on any venue if one were to believe Hindutva narrative.
 
India should just excuse themselves from the tournament and Pakistan should do the same whenever India to host the tournament.

If Indians had any principles for their claims then they would refuse to play Pakistan on any venue. But by now we are all aware of the fact, the “topi drama” is for domestic Hindutva constituent to appear to have enough clout and money over the people who converted to different religion.
 
There are reports circulating that India has an outside chance of hosting the Champions Trophy if Pakistan pulls due to not agreeing the hybrid model.

India will do everything in its power to make this happen, as it would be advantageous from both revenue and broadcasting perspectives. The revenue that India could generate as the host, without Pakistan, is likely to be significantly higher than what Pakistan could bring as a host. Pakistan must not withdraw from the Champions Trophy at all cost and let ICC decide the next plan of action. This scenario would result in a lose-lose situation for Pakistan and a win-win for India.
 
PCB should not let go of the whole event. the most they should do is not play India. Leaving the whole event might cost them big time in the upcoming years.
 
rpant_gabba said:
1 report from a Pak source.

Dunya news. how credible are they?
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very reliable, in Pakistan with only a few channels, it’s crucial for each one to report trustworthy news to build a good reputation. In contrast, India has hundreds of channels, where many prioritize TRPs and report all sort of rubbish for TRP.

just look at your media in 2 days indian media has reported hybrid model to CT25 shifting to SA then to UAE and now shifting to India. while Pakistani news channels have been quiet until they got official news probably leaked by someone at PCB
 
The Bald Eagle said:
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>>Organize it with or without India. Give Sri Lanka the chance if India forfeits or doesn't come.<<

Agree. it should happen in Pakistan. Not sure about BCCI compensating fro losses

Is it up to PCB though? It is not a PCB tournament. Its an ICC tournament
 
rpant_gabba said:
>>Organize it with or without India. Give Sri Lanka the chance if India forfeits or doesn't come.<<

Agree. it should happen in Pakistan. Not sure about BCCI compensating fro losses

Is it up to PCB though? It is not a PCB tournament. Its an ICC tournament
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As you know even for stamping its will BCCI needs a cogent excuse, which they don't have at the moment...So if PCB stands firm, ICC would have little or no choice no matter what BCCI suggest
 
emranabbas said:
very reliable, in Pakistan with only a few channels, it’s crucial for each one to report trustworthy news to build a good reputation. In contrast, India has hundreds of channels, where many prioritize TRPs and report all sort of rubbish for TRP.

just look at your media in 2 days indian media has reported hybrid model to CT25 shifting to SA then to UAE and now shifting to India. while Pakistani news channels have been quiet until they got official news probably leaked by someone at PCB
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examples?

you mean to say all new sources are controlled by the establishment.

Besides, looks like BCCI gets what it wants. eg. trophy tour schedule change
 
The Bald Eagle said:
As you know even for stamping its will BCCI needs a cogent excuse, which they don't have at the moment...So if PCB stands firm, ICC would have little or no choice no matter what BCCI suggest
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I have no idea what you meant there.

PCB Stands firm. BCCI stands firm. Who will ICC stand with? think we know the answer.

Wouldn't mind seeing PCB left holding the bag for renovation costs.

PCB could then sue ICC and be out of ICC for good. 🍿
 
rpant_gabba said:
examples?

you mean to say all new sources are controlled by the establishment.

Besides, looks like BCCI gets what it wants. eg. trophy tour schedule change
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There’s a stark difference between the attitudes of Indian and Pakistani people when it comes to news about each other. In Pakistan, any news related to India doesn’t stir much reaction or concern among the public. However, in India, even the slightest mention of Pakistan tends to create a significant buzz, with the population getting overly hyped up about it.

Take the recent situation with the ICC Trophy tour as an example. The Indian media took it upon themselves to release the tour schedule, which included a stop in what they refer to as Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. This move naturally stirred up discussions and controversies. Then, almost immediately the next day, the same media outlets started reporting that the BCCI had stopped the trophy tour from going to that area and made it out that they have control over pakistan and can dictate pakistan. Just to boost fake confidence in people like you.

What’s important to note here is that, at this point, neither the PCB nor any Pakistani media channels had officially announced the trophy tour. It was only today that Pakistani media reported on it, showing that Pakistan had no role in creating this narrative.

This highlights the control Indian media has over its audience and how it can manufacture narratives to influence public opinion. In Pakistan, the situation is quite different. The public dictates the direction of the media rather than being controlled by it. This difference in dynamics shows how media can shape national perceptions and priorities, depending on the societal structure it operates in.
 
emranabbas said:
There’s a stark difference between the attitudes of Indian and Pakistani people when it comes to news about each other. In Pakistan, any news related to India doesn’t stir much reaction or concern among the public. However, in India, even the slightest mention of Pakistan tends to create a significant buzz, with the population getting overly hyped up about it.

Take the recent situation with the ICC Trophy tour as an example. The Indian media took it upon themselves to release the tour schedule, which included a stop in what they refer to as Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. This move naturally stirred up discussions and controversies. Then, almost immediately the next day, the same media outlets started reporting that the BCCI had stopped the trophy tour from going to that area and made it out that they have control over pakistan and can dictate pakistan. Just to boost fake confidence in people like you.

What’s important to note here is that, at this point, neither the PCB nor any Pakistani media channels had officially announced the trophy tour. It was only today that Pakistani media reported on it, showing that Pakistan had no role in creating this narrative.

This highlights the control Indian media has over its audience and how it can manufacture narratives to influence public opinion. In Pakistan, the situation is quite different. The public dictates the direction of the media rather than being controlled by it. This difference in dynamics shows how media can shape national perceptions and priorities, depending on the societal structure it operates in.
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Nice story.

Bunch of posters here and on X journo was going on about PCB is doing a good job of irking India which the trophy stunt.

Two possibilities:
1. PCB wanted to irk India : got shot down

2 Indian media made it up and dared PCB

Either way, not a good look for PCB.

With this you want me believe that BCCI is going give money away based on Pak establishment news report?
 
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rpant_gabba said:
Nice story.

Bunch of posters here and on X journo was going on about PCB is doing a good job of irking India which the trophy stunt.

Two possibilities:
1. PCB wanted to irk India : got shot down

2 Indian media made it up and dared PCB

Either way, not a good look for PCB.

With this you want me believe that BCCI is going give money away based on Pak establishment news report?
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I don't know why would you come on a Pakistani forum and expect a Indian narrative

better you watch your own media for reliable news and stay on your own forums where people give you the narrative you want to hear.
 
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rpant_gabba said:
Nice story.

Bunch of posters here and on X journo was going on about PCB is doing a good job of irking India which the trophy stunt.

Two possibilities:
1. PCB wanted to irk India : got shot down

2 Indian media made it up and dared PCB

Either way, not a good look for PCB.

With this you want me believe that BCCI is going give money away based on Pak establishment news report?
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The PCB only released one trophy tour schedule, and it didn't include any of the towns that might offend Indians.

It's not as if the PCB initially released a schedule, faced pressure from India, and then issued a revised one without those towns

that's just a narrative being pushed by your media. To show fake bravado

So, neither of your two suggested possibilities is accurate; it's something imagined by Indians.

If you want accurate information go on PCB website in the news section not random forums or X
 
emranabbas said:
The PCB only released one trophy tour schedule, and it didn't include any of the towns that might offend Indians.

It's not as if the PCB initially released a schedule, faced pressure from India, and then issued a revised one without those towns

that's just a narrative being pushed by your media. To show fake bravado

So, neither of your two suggested possibilities is accurate; it's something imagined by Indians.

If you want accurate information go on PCB website in the news section not random forums or X
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Is Najam Sethi and Samaa TV a credible source?
 
emranabbas said:
The PCB only released one trophy tour schedule, and it didn't include any of the towns that might offend Indians.

It's not as if the PCB initially released a schedule, faced pressure from India, and then issued a revised one without those towns

that's just a narrative being pushed by your media. To show fake bravado

So, neither of your two suggested possibilities is accurate; it's something imagined by Indians.

If you want accurate information go on PCB website in the news section not random forums or X
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bhai, thodi research kar liya kar liya karo! Literally lost count now! :facepalm
 
emranabbas said:
The PCB only released one trophy tour schedule, and it didn't include any of the towns that might offend Indians.

It's not as if the PCB initially released a schedule, faced pressure from India, and then issued a revised one without those towns

that's just a narrative being pushed by your media. To show fake bravado

So, neither of your two suggested possibilities is accurate; it's something imagined by Indians.

If you want accurate information go on PCB website in the news section not random forums or X
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Aang_The_last_airbender said:
bhai, thodi research kar liya kar liya karo! Literally lost count now! :facepalm
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PCB posted this on their X account.
 
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I would have liked nothing more than to see the whole tournament in Pakistan. But we have to be realistic here. I like that the PCB is sticking to their guns, but in all likelihood money will win out in the end.

Given the present circumstances where it seems highly likely that India will not come to Pakistan, Pakistan should at the very least try to get something out of this situation and draw a line in the sand in-regards to future matches with India:

- When India's government finally gives their B.S reason for not coming to Pakistan, Pakistan should use that to say that our government does not allow us to play India in India until they come here.
- For the tournament India can play their matches in UAE, but Pakistan will not play India in UAE. Pakistan will play all their matches at home. Get the groups changed and hit the broadcasters where it hurts.
- India will play all their matches in UAE, with one semi-final scheduled in UAE. But the final will be in Pakistan.
- Ask ICC for additional hosting fees to compensate for the lost revenue from the moved matches and organizing another part of the tournament in UAE.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I would have liked nothing more than to see the whole tournament in Pakistan. But we have to be realistic here. I like that the PCB is sticking to their guns, but in all likelihood money will win out in the end.

Given the present circumstances where it seems highly likely that India will not come to Pakistan, Pakistan should at the very least try to get something out of this situation and draw a line in the sand in-regards to future matches with India:

- When India's government finally gives their B.S reason for not coming to Pakistan, Pakistan should use that to say that our government does not allow us to play India in India until they come here.
- For the tournament India can play their matches in UAE, but Pakistan will not play India in UAE. Pakistan will play all their matches at home. Get the groups changed and hit the broadcasters where it hurts.
- India will play all their matches in UAE, with one semi-final scheduled in UAE. But the final will be in Pakistan.
- Ask ICC for additional hosting fees to compensate for the lost revenue from the moved matches and organizing another part of the tournament in UAE.
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You give the PCB far too much credit.

Any stance, or perceived stance (which appears to be just remaining silent) is for public consumption.

INMHO the Military, the Government and hence the PCB don't give too hoots about anything other then making money, and by money I mean money for their own corrupt pockets.

So expect some sort of hybrid situation and everyone continues as they are.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I would have liked nothing more than to see the whole tournament in Pakistan. But we have to be realistic here. I like that the PCB is sticking to their guns, but in all likelihood money will win out in the end.

Given the present circumstances where it seems highly likely that India will not come to Pakistan, Pakistan should at the very least try to get something out of this situation and draw a line in the sand in-regards to future matches with India:

- When India's government finally gives their B.S reason for not coming to Pakistan, Pakistan should use that to say that our government does not allow us to play India in India until they come here.
- For the tournament India can play their matches in UAE, but Pakistan will not play India in UAE. Pakistan will play all their matches at home. Get the groups changed and hit the broadcasters where it hurts.
- India will play all their matches in UAE, with one semi-final scheduled in UAE. But the final will be in Pakistan.
- Ask ICC for additional hosting fees to compensate for the lost revenue from the moved matches and organizing another part of the tournament in UAE.
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Beggars can’t be choosers
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I would have liked nothing more than to see the whole tournament in Pakistan. But we have to be realistic here. I like that the PCB is sticking to their guns, but in all likelihood money will win out in the end.

Given the present circumstances where it seems highly likely that India will not come to Pakistan, Pakistan should at the very least try to get something out of this situation and draw a line in the sand in-regards to future matches with India:

- When India's government finally gives their B.S reason for not coming to Pakistan, Pakistan should use that to say that our government does not allow us to play India in India until they come here.
- For the tournament India can play their matches in UAE, but Pakistan will not play India in UAE. Pakistan will play all their matches at home. Get the groups changed and hit the broadcasters where it hurts.
- India will play all their matches in UAE, with one semi-final scheduled in UAE. But the final will be in Pakistan.
- Ask ICC for additional hosting fees to compensate for the lost revenue from the moved matches and organizing another part of the tournament in UAE.
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Lol..... wishful thinking.
 
PCB will have to accept Hybrid model in the end.

BCCI replaced by Other team is looking quite impssoible.
 
Another thing, Pakistan India clash is a cash galore for broadcasters. So despite being a poor board in comparison to BCCi. PCB can make them dance on their head only if they realize their team's brand real worth.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Another thing, Pakistan India clash is a cash galore for broadcasters. So despite being a poor board in comparison to BCCi. PCB can make them dance on their head only if they realize their team's brand real worth.
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The biggest cricket broadcast deal in the world has no pakistani connection. Infact its broadcast is banned in Pakistan.

Even in a India Pakistan match money comes from the Indian market.

Don't over extend yourself. Last time PCB tried this, Pakistanis got banned from the biggest t20 league.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Another thing, Pakistan India clash is a cash galore for broadcasters. So despite being a poor board in comparison to BCCi. PCB can make them dance on their head only if they realize their team's brand real worth.
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Bro first get a good deals for pakistan home series Plus PSL.

India is no match for pakistan in every fields. :kp
 
cricketjoshila said:
The biggest cricket broadcast deal in the world has no pakistani connection. Infact its broadcast is banned in Pakistan.

Even in a India Pakistan match money comes from the Indian market.

Don't over extend yourself. Last time PCB tried this, Pakistanis got banned from the biggest t20 league.
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So, if Pakistan boycott Indian games, Indians wouldn't complain like lunatics. Correct?
 
ICC is putting pressure on the PCB to accept the Hybrid model and agree to India playing in UAE. If I were the PCB, I would negotiate an increase in the hosting fees and share of revenues from the tournament in exchange for accepting the demand and for the Semi Finals and Finals to be played in Pakistan if India doesn't qualify.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The biggest cricket broadcast deal in the world has no pakistani connection. Infact its broadcast is banned in Pakistan.

Even in a India Pakistan match money comes from the Indian market.

Don't over extend yourself. Last time PCB tried this, Pakistanis got banned from the biggest t20 league.
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The broadcasters are threatening to sue the ICC over no Pakistan-India match.

You can drop this narrative now. The IPL has absolutely jack to do with ICC media rights.
 
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zn426 said:
The broadcasters are threatening to sue the ICC over no Pakistan-India match.


You can drop this narrative now. The IPL has absolutely jack to do with ICC media rights.
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Amidst all the chaos, a report has claimed that the schedule of the Champions Trophy 2025 has been halted due to the current row between India and Pakistan. The report adds that the broadcasters and commercial partners are pretty much ‘stubborn’ on the thought of having the India vs Pakistan match in the Champions Trophy 2025 schedule which doesn’t look possible in the current scenario. The report states that if no India vs Pakistan match is included in the Champions Trophy 2025 schedule then the broadcasters and commercial partners can take a legal action against the ICC.
 
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Pakistan don't hold any leverage. India holds it all. Pak will eventually have to bow down and agree to hybrid model. Only leverage they can do is to host knockouts in Pakistan if India is not there.

In future ICC events being held in India, there wont be a hybrid model to accommodate Pakistan. Pakistan wont be able to move their matches outside of India either especially Knockouts including Pakistan won't be held outside of India like it is being done here.

In that case, if Pakistan says our government isnt' allowing to play matches in India. ICC will just ignore them and ask them to sit out if they can't come. That's reality of the power dynamics

jihda danda ohdi majj
 
cogent said:
Pakistan don't hold any leverage. India holds it all. Pak will eventually have to bow down and agree to hybrid model. Only leverage they can do is to host knockouts in Pakistan if India is not there.

In future ICC events being held in India, there wont be a hybrid model to accommodate Pakistan. Pakistan wont be able to move their matches outside of India either especially Knockouts including Pakistan won't be held outside of India like it is being done here.

In that case, if Pakistan says our government isnt' allowing to play matches in India. ICC will just ignore them and ask them to sit out if they can't come. That's reality of the power dynamics

jihda danda ohdi majj
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This is tru. I agree. PCB has no real control when it comes to BCCI and ICC. I think hybrid model will be the only think they have to agree to.
 
Amjid Javed said:
🤣🤣 BCCI putting a dossier together of how dangerous Pakistan is?

How many games at ICC tournament cricket have been stopped due to stadiums being set on fire and fans throwing parts of stadium on the pitch.

Oh the irony

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At Karachi, December 20. No result, the match being stopped because of crowd trouble. Toss: India. Put in on a damp pitch, Pakistan were in dire straits when Prabhakar picked up three wickets in his opening spell of five overs. However, the Indian team were forced to leave the field owing to repeated stone-throwing by the huge crowd, particularly from the galleries. The police were still struggling to control the student faction when the Indians, though reluctantly, took the field for the second time. As missiles more deadly than stones kept coming, they walked off again. With a full-scale battle between the police and the students resulting in the use of tear-gas and gun shots outside the National Stadium being heard, the abandonment of the match was a formality.

Link: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-v-india-1989-90-150767



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Amjid Javed said:
🤣🤣 BCCI putting a dossier together of how dangerous Pakistan is?

How many games at ICC tournament cricket have been stopped due to stadiums being set on fire and fans throwing parts of stadium on the pitch.

Oh the irony
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No icc events in pakistan period
 
Mohsin Naqvi has been a disappointment but atleast he could ask ICC to not put Pakistan in a same group as India.
 
Hitman said:
At Karachi, December 20. No result, the match being stopped because of crowd trouble. Toss: India. Put in on a damp pitch, Pakistan were in dire straits when Prabhakar picked up three wickets in his opening spell of five overs. However, the Indian team were forced to leave the field owing to repeated stone-throwing by the huge crowd, particularly from the galleries. The police were still struggling to control the student faction when the Indians, though reluctantly, took the field for the second time. As missiles more deadly than stones kept coming, they walked off again. With a full-scale battle between the police and the students resulting in the use of tear-gas and gun shots outside the National Stadium being heard, the abandonment of the match was a formality.

Link: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/pakistan-v-india-1989-90-150767



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Lmao...


Now watch that guy run away.. :yk
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohsin Naqvi has been a disappointment but atleast he could ask ICC to not put Pakistan in a same group as India.
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What's been disappointing? He stood up for Pakistan and demanded equal treatment with India. If India won't visit Pakistan, then Pakistan won't visit India, and India will also have to host Pakistan in a hybrid model just like how pakistan have to host India. What did ramiz raja do? Sold pakistan
 
Naqvi has taken a stand and he should stick to it. It is better to lose the CT hosting rights than to run away from the scene
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohsin Naqvi has been a disappointment but atleast he could ask ICC to not put Pakistan in a same group as India.
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This is not ICC/ BCCI / PCB hands. Broadcasters are deciding All the fixture theses day becouse they paid them healthy amount .
 
The only strategy for Naqvi Sahab now is to stay quiet and never speak boldly as they will have to accept what they were denied from day one.
 
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