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While we criticise our batting, the bowling has best E/R in this World Cup

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Before the two Semi-Finals, our bowing has the best Economy Rate in thie World Cup so far.
 

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There is a reason we continue to reach knockout phases of these tournaments, and its not due to our world beating batting line up.
 
Not to mention, the teams with best Bowling S/R have qualified for the Semi-Finals....
 

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We have always had such good t20 bowling mA....

Hafeez, Afridi and Ajmal used to be lethal and now we have Shaheen, Rauf and Shadab who could get us a wicket at any point in the game.

There is no weak link in our bowling right now. Losing to India might have been a blessing in that sense because carrying only 3 seamers was canned immediately.
 
Need to keep it going for two more games and then these guys should be given some much needed rest. Especially Haris, who has bowled way too much for a 150 kph fast bowler.

We need to develop Hasnain into another finished article and have a pace battery of six world class fast bowlers. A backup spinner or two would also be much appreciated.
 
Indeed the gold standard of bowling should not be let down 2 more games
 
Pacers in this WC - by E/R.
 

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Spinners in this WC - by S/R.
 

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Pak and Ind have taken the most number of wickets in 5 games. Pak had better Ave and Econ while Indians have a marginally better SR. NZ seems to be the best bowling unit leading the Ave, SR and good econ
 
Pak and Ind have taken the most number of wickets in 5 games. Pak had better Ave and Econ while Indians have a marginally better SR. NZ seems to be the best bowling unit leading the Ave, SR and good econ

Shadab Khan. He is the difference. I think he is going under 6.
 
Need to keep it going for two more games and then these guys should be given some much needed rest. Especially Haris, who has bowled way too much for a 150 kph fast bowler.

We need to develop Hasnain into another finished article and have a pace battery of six world class fast bowlers. A backup spinner or two would also be much appreciated.

Are you talking in the sense of the calendar year or in this series?

The scheduling has been very forgiving in this cup. Prior to this Pakistan have mainly played t20's with Haris not featuring in any long form cricket. I don't see what the issue would be with any bowlers fitness personally. Bowling 4 overs in a day is really quite light work even at 100% of effort.
 
The bowlers absolutely bottled the India match, and they are extremely lucky that it didn’t prove costly enough to cost them a place in the semifinal.

There is no need to praise their performance in this World Cup, but yes the semifinal is a great occasion to make amends.
 
Have to agree with Mamoon, our bowling attack bottled under pressure against Kohli, overthought unnecessarily against Zimbabwe in the first three overs by bowling full on a fast bouncy Perth Wicket and allowed the Zimbabwe players to score at 10 runs per over in the first four overs. Our bowlers were put under the pump by South Africa and Bangladesh in the first 6 overs.

Our bowlers always wilt when brutally attacked by quality T20 players like from England, Australia. Surya Kumar Yadav will make them cry with his unpredictable 360 degree stroke play.
 
We have always had such good t20 bowling mA....

Hafeez, Afridi and Ajmal used to be lethal and now we have Shaheen, Rauf and Shadab who could get us a wicket at any point in the game.

There is no weak link in our bowling right now. Losing to India might have been a blessing in that sense because carrying only 3 seamers was canned immediately.

The problem with us fans is that we tend to forget the good stats of past once a bowler is taken to cleaners. Just wait till Shadab or any other bowler will have an off-day and read the posts on them then....
 
First of [MENTION=2344]W63L35[/MENTION] where the hell have you been all these years. Good to see you back

And yup you havent changed, you posting stats is really nostalgic

Im surprised australia is in the bottom eith cummins, hazlewood and starc
 
Pakistan's bowling unit has been outstanding in this tournament:

India 160/6 in 20 overs
Zimbabwe 130/8 in 20 overs
Netherlands 91/9 in 20 overs
South Africa 108/9 in 14 overs
Bangladesh 127/8 in 20 overs
 
Among the teams left Moeen Ali is the best match up against Shadab Khan. Other teams will have their task cut out against him. Pandya is not the same anymore.
 
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Top 4 bowling sides are in semi

BP = Boundary percentage
BP6 = Balls per six
NBSR = Non-boundary strike rate
DBP = Dot ball percentage
 
Very impressive New zealand. Atleast other teams have some weaknesses. But NZ looks amazing.
 
They got smashed by England. They did not look amazing by any measure.

England looks the worst if you look at the first table , batting stats. boundary percentage/balls per six both very low. NZ is comfortably green there. Bowling more or less the same. Spin bowling stats is excellent for NZ. Only Pak/Australia are better.
 
Have to agree with Mamoon, our bowling attack bottled under pressure against Kohli, overthought unnecessarily against Zimbabwe in the first three overs by bowling full on a fast bouncy Perth Wicket and allowed the Zimbabwe players to score at 10 runs per over in the first four overs. Our bowlers were put under the pump by South Africa and Bangladesh in the first 6 overs.

Our bowlers always wilt when brutally attacked by quality T20 players like from England, Australia. Surya Kumar Yadav will make them cry with his unpredictable 360 degree stroke play.

Savak, use some common sense and stop backing narcissists.
It wasn't the bowlers bottling it.
It was selecting three fast bowlers and having to bowl 8 overs of spin on a fast, bouncy Melbourne wicket.
Also one of the three fast bowlers was just coming back after a very long lay off due to injury. It was his first competitive game following that injury.
 
Need to keep it going for two more games and then these guys should be given some much needed rest. Especially Haris, who has bowled way too much for a 150 kph fast bowler.

We need to develop Hasnain into another finished article and have a pace battery of six world class fast bowlers. A backup spinner or two would also be much appreciated.

Definitely Shaheen and Rauf should be rested.
 
Premature thread, our bowling hasn't been tested against England, New Zealand, Australia.

We saw how England demolished our pacers in Pakistan. Our pacers chocked and lost the game against India from a winning position.

Our bowlers struggle badly when attacked by the opposition.
 
There is a reason we continue to reach knockout phases of these tournaments, and its not due to our world beating batting line up.

Isn't this the story of Pakistan cricket for decades now. Somehow an excellent bowling attack always arises. Occasionally there is enough batting scraped together to provide the bowlers enough to work with.

Despite all the criticism, there is some quality in this batting lineup. But yes, the bowlers are almost not getting the praise enough- as a unit they have performed well.
 
I said before the WT20 to play an extra bowler as that is our strength and drop the useless Asif Ali.

It took team management a shameful defeat against India to figure that one out.

Why cant we ever be proactive.
 
Yes, England batters were in brilliant form before this tournament.... but England batting at 3, 4, 5 and 6 totally flopped in this World Cup. Please see the chart below. So your argument that Pakistan bowling was not tested vs England during the tournament does not apply. Their average was also at #9. Over all batting (all position), England's S/R below Pakistan at #8.

NZ and Aus batting has been very good in the tournament...

But Pakistan bowling did play against India and South Africa, their batting S/R (over all) is at #2 and #3 respectively in the tournament. Here is the link...
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...=span;template=results;trophy=89;type=batting
 

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Isn't this the story of Pakistan cricket for decades now. Somehow an excellent bowling attack always arises. Occasionally there is enough batting scraped together to provide the bowlers enough to work with.

Despite all the criticism, there is some quality in this batting lineup. But yes, the bowlers are almost not getting the praise enough- as a unit they have performed well.

It is simple logic. If you a good bowling unit and a bowler makes a mistake he can come back. But if you have a very good batting unit and batsman makes a mistake he can't come back. That's it. So it is always way too risky to go in as a batting dependent unit. It works only when you play on absolute roads like they did in 2019 world cup.
 
Definitely a well balanced attack. LEft arm spin, off spin, leg spin, left arm seamer, 3 right arm seamers. Good variety.

Variety in the bowling attack is useless if the bowlers don't know how to use them and most importantly if the captain doesn't know which bowler to utilize at the right time given the pitch, match situation etc.
 
It is simple logic. If you a good bowling unit and a bowler makes a mistake he can come back. But if you have a very good batting unit and batsman makes a mistake he can't come back. That's it. So it is always way too risky to go in as a batting dependent unit. It works only when you play on absolute roads like they did in 2019 world cup.

Lulz. Bad "logic".

It's exactly the same for batting too. Batsmen make mistakes and survive all the time.
 
Lulz. Bad "logic".

It's exactly the same for batting too. Batsmen make mistakes and survive all the time.

Yes. I don't think Pakistan chooses to have weaker batting, it's just almost always been the case. These are the best you have, so you play them. I'm sure they'd pick a flawless batting lineup if they could.
 
Pakistan's bowling attack has been the best in the tournament but it has been vulnerable in the Powerplay.

If NZ get to bat first on a placid Sydney pitch and Finn Allen gets going, it could give NZ a significant advantage . Problem for NZ is Pakistan bowling is scary good in the middle and at the death. So they need to maximize the powerplay.
 
Pakistan's bowling attack has been the best in the tournament but it has been vulnerable in the Powerplay.

If NZ get to bat first on a placid Sydney pitch and Finn Allen gets going, it could give NZ a significant advantage . Problem for NZ is Pakistan bowling is scary good in the middle and at the death. So they need to maximize the powerplay.

I think they need to target Naseem rather than Shaheen
 
Yes amidst all the average to rubbish batting, the bowling has been outstanding apart from the last couple of innings overs against India.

Our bowling deserves better than the batting lineup we have. With a better one we would be unbeatable
 
I think they need to target Naseem rather than Shaheen

I think they should look to attack everyone in the PP. So far, SCG has shown little seam or swing compared to other venues.

They can't afford to target only 1 bowler. They'll struggle against Shadab and Rauf in the middle overs.
 
I think they should look to attack everyone in the PP. So far, SCG has shown little seam or swing compared to other venues.

They can't afford to target only 1 bowler. They'll struggle against Shadab and Rauf in the middle overs.

Naseem and Wasim Jr. Not much experience and could be easy targets. If it doesn't swing, Shaheen will be attacked. Shadab and Rauf are trump cards.
 
Depends if they hold their nerve. Imagine if they had a semi-competent batting lineup behind them
 
It's very good signs for the future that this young attack has performed so well in Australia.
 
On average, NZ were scoring 8.88 runs (177 in 20 overs) in this tournament before the semi-final. We just restricted them to 152 - 25 runs below their average.
 

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On average, NZ were scoring 8.88 runs (177 in 20 overs) in this tournament before the semi-final. We just restricted them to 152 - 25 runs below their average.

Pakistan has been scoring 151 runs on the average. We need 153.
 
Pakistani bowling had been giving away 127 runs on the average... today they gave away 152.

NZ bowling had been giving away 140 runs on the average and we need to score 153 from them!
 

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Updated after the NZ innings today:

Pakistan's economy-rate in this T20 World Cup is a very impressive 6.50
 
The best bowling attack in this tournament. What a team we could be if the batsmen would pull their weight
 
The bowling attack made 138 look like 168!!! Afridi's fitness/injury was the big letdown
 
Batting could've limped to 150 but alas that's what they are. Worst batting lineup in the tournament. Gotta feel for the bowlers, they get 0 support.
 
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