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State the year you started watching cricket (so we can critique you) and then provide your list.

I started watching in the year 1999.

1. Brian Lara
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Younis Khan
4. Rahul Dravid
5. Kumar Sangakara
6. Ricky Ponting
7. KP
8. Big Inzi
9. Kallis
10. Graem Smith
 
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I started watching cricket religiously since 1996. Top 10 would be difficult for me to mention, I'll just name the top 3 in my opinion -

1. Sachin

2. Lara

3. Ponting


Although I'll confess that I will never debate with anyone rating Lara ahead of Sachin. They were really very close. It's obvious that I'm an Indian and a massive, massive fan of Sachin, hence my opinion.
 
Started watching in 2011.

1. Michael Clarke
2. Hashim Amla
3. Younis Khan
4. Ross Taylor
5. Joe Root
6. Murali Vijay
7. Misbah ul-Haq
8. Mominul Haque
9. Kane Williamson
10. Peter Handscomb
 
Anyways, Younis Khan , in my opinion is among the top 5 batsman from Asia ever, and as an Indian I'm just as proud of him as any Pak fan is. And that's because I have followed his career right from his debut till date. I have always, always been a massive fan of his temperament since his debut. I still am.

Here's an example that nice guys like him do not necessarily finish last (as the saying goes).
 
Hitman said:
I started watching cricket religiously since 1996. Top 10 would be difficult for me to mention, I'll just name the top 3 in my opinion -

1. Sachin

2. Lara

3. Ponting


Although I'll confess that I will never debate with anyone rating Lara ahead of Sachin. They were really very close. It's obvious that I'm an Indian and a massive, massive fan of Sachin, hence my opinion.
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Yeah I could easily swap 1 and 2 from my list as well but am a bit biased towards Lara with me Caribbean origins and he was such a joy to watch at his best with those trademark calypso strokes. Although Sachin was great to watch for me in the early 2000's and especially in the 90's think his S/R was better then as well? I can't find any stats for it
 
shaz619 said:
Yeah I could easily swap 1 and 2 from my list as well but am a bit biased towards Lara with me Caribbean origins and he was such a joy to watch at his best with those trademark calypso strokes. Although Sachin was great to watch as well especially in the 90's think his S/R was better then as well? I can't find any stats for it
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Bro, reading your interview on PP, your father if from Caribbean origin, isn't it?
 
shaz619 said:
Yeah I could easily swap 1 and 2 from my list as well but am a bit biased towards Lara with me Caribbean origins and he was such a joy to watch at his best with those trademark calypso strokes. Although Sachin was great to watch for me in the early 2000's and especially in the 90's think his S/R was better then as well? I can't find any stats for it
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Even I'm a big fan of Lara, absolute genius.
 
If anyone can find Sachin Tendulkar S/R in tests from his debut till 1999 let met know, a comparison to his S/R in the 2000's would be nice
 
Rayyman said:
Started watching in 2011.

1. Michael Clarke
2. Hashim Amla
3. Younis Khan
4. Ross Taylor
5. Joe Root
6. Murali Vijay
7. Misbah ul-Haq
8. Mominul Haque
9. Kane Williamson
10. Peter Handscomb
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What ay list :))
 
Since I started watching (late 90s),

Sachin
Lara
Ponting
Steve Waugh (although I saw the very end of his career)
Dravid
Kallis
Sangakkara
Amla
Hayden/Graeme Smith
Younis/VVS/Clarke
 
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Started watching in 1998:

My favorites are:

1- Mohammad Yousuf
2 - Rahul Dravid
3 - Brian Lara
4 - Ricky Ponting
5 - Younis Khan
6 - Hashim Amla
7 - Kevin Pietersen
8 - Kane Williamson
9 - Sangakkara
10 - Joe Root
 
Hitman said:
Ok, great. Anyways, I'd like to apologize to you for behaving like an idiot to you in the past. Rest assured, it will never happen again :)
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No please continue it's all good brother :)) I enjoy the banter :yk me and you are the Bret and HBK of PP at our highs and lows :yk2
 
Sachin136 said:
Since I started watching (late 90s),

Sachin
Lara
Ponting
Steve Waugh (although I saw the very end of his career)
Dravid
Kallis
Sangakkara
Amla
Hayden/Graeme Smith
Younis/VVS/Clarke
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Man I just lost a million dollars, couldn't predict your number one :))
 
shaz619 said:
If anyone can find Sachin Tendulkar S/R in tests from his debut till 1999 let met know, a comparison to his S/R in the 2000's would be nice
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If I recall correctly, Sachin has an SR of 54 in Tests while Lara has an SR of 60. The 'baap' of them all i.e Viv Richards had an SR of 70 odd in Tests back in his time, a time were great ODI players had an SR in the early 60's.
 
Daniyal 13 said:
Started watching in 1998:

My favorites are:

1- Mohammad Yousuf
2 - Rahul Dravid
3 - Brian Lara
4 - Ricky Ponting
5 - Younis Khan
6 - Hashim Amla
7 - Kevin Pietersen
8 - Kane Williamson
9 - Sangakkara
10 - Joe Root
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Interesting to see Joe Root break into your top 10 for someone who started watching since 1998, does he make your list based on current performances or how you expect his career to turn out in the future?
 
shaz619 said:
Interesting to see Joe Root break into your top 10 for someone who started watching since 1998, does he make your list based on current performances or how you expect his career to turn out in the future?
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Please clarify your thread.
 
Hitman said:
If I recall correctly, Sachin has an SR of 54 in Tests while Lara has an SR of 60. The 'baap' of them all i.e Viv Richards had an SR of 70 odd in Tests back in his time, a time were great ODI players had an SR in the early 60's.
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Is that 54 overall? is there a number for his S/R in the 90's it could be higher for Sachin, yeah Lara and Viv especially was such a beast
 
shaz619 said:
No please continue it's all good brother :)) I enjoy the banter :yk me and you are the Bret and HBK of PP at our highs and lows :yk2
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Shawn has always, always been my favorite wrestler, I swear :))

Although, Bret was my first hero in pro wrestling. That was when Shawn was still making a name for himself in the 'Rockers' with Marty Jennety :)
 
Rayyman said:
Please clarify your thread.
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He could have considered other names such as Graem Smith or Jaques Kallis for example who were prominent beyond 1998 which is the year he started watching so wanted to see why Joe Root made it to his list ahead of those names.
 
shaz619 said:
Is that 54 overall? is there a number for his S/R in the 90's it could be higher for Sachin, yeah Lara and Viv especially was such a beast
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Yea, 54 overall. Viv was simply a bloody beast back then.
 
shaz619 said:
He could have considered other names such as Graem Smith or Jaques Kallis for example who were prominent beyond 1998 which is the year he started watching so wanted to see why Joe Root made it to his list ahead of those names.
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Is it favorites or not?
 
Hitman said:
Yea, 54 overall. Viv was simply a bloody beast back then.
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We need help from our stats guru [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] can you find out what Sachin's S/R was in Tests in the 1990s compared to the 2000's ?
 
Viv, Bradman and SRT's estimated SRs are 67, 58 and 52-54 respectively iirc
 
Hes more of my personal favorite, he looks to me a very composed batsman and he has a great future ahead.

Ofcourse he has yet to achieve a lot, and establish himself as an ATG. My preference in judging a batsman has always been aesthetics (wrong policy) but thats what i mostly look for in a batsman.
 
Followed cricket from 2004 onwards, guys who come to my mind - personal opinion of course:

Yousuf
Younis
G. Smith
Williamson
Trescothick
Cook
 
Kaka4pope said:
Followed cricket from 2004 onwards, guys who come to my mind - personal opinion of course:

Yousuf
Younis
G. Smith
Williamson
Trescothick
Cook
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Nice to see Tresothick get a mention, loved him; was such a destructive opener for England. I rate him as an England legend, would have him open the innings of their all time Test XI with Boycott [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
 
Started watching in 2005. This isn't in order

Sachin Tendulkar
Kumar Sangakara
Jaques Kallis
Ricky Ponting
Hashim Amla
Younis Khan
Rahul Dravid
Alistair Cook
Greame Smith
Michael Clarke
 
My earliest memories would be around 1996 so here's my list
Sachin Tendulkar
Lara
Mark Waugh
Arvinda de Silva
Rahul dravid
Inzamam
Vvs Laxman
S Chanderpaul
Graham Thorpe
C Pujara
 
Hmm very interesting question!

I've been watching cricket very closely for as long as I can remember, however, I guess my earliest memories are around 1995/96

It's going to be tough to list 10 in order - however let's give it a shot:

1. Dravid
2. Lara
3. Younis
4. KP
5. Gilchrist
6. Inzi
7. Hayden
8. Amla
9. Ponting
10. Sachin
 
Rayyman said:
Started watching in 2011.

1. Michael Clarke
2. Hashim Amla
3. Younis Khan
4. Ross Taylor
5. Joe Root
6. Murali Vijay
7. Misbah ul-Haq
8. Mominul Haque
9. Kane Williamson
10. Peter Handscomb
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I'll give a list of players from the start of this decade:

1) Sangakkara
2) Younis Khan
3) Hashim Amla
4) Jacques Kallis
5) Steven Smith
6) Alastair Cook
7) Michael Clarke
8) Graeme Smith
9) Azhar Ali
10) Kane Williamson
 
shaz619 said:
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Top 10 is probably too difficult to order - I'll pick Lara & Viv for top 2 for sure. Rest, not in actual order - Tendulkar, KP, Inzi, Ponting, Kallis, Martin Crowe, YK, Sanga, Border.

But still, there is Greg Chappel (Technically, I saw him), Dravid, Gavaskar, Amarnath, Gooch, Grineedge, AB, Steve, Mark, Saeed, Mahela, Shiva, Gower, Zaheer, Smith (Steve) - and still I am missing many for sure. It's not easy actually.

I'll stick to my top 2 - Lara & Viv.
 
Tendulkar
Lara
Steve Waugh
Ponting
Sangakkara
Dravid
Clarke
Cook
Graeme Smith
Pietersen

In no particular order, but with heavy bias for the 90s and 2000s generation players, which is why Kohli, Smith and Root miss out. Saeed Anwar, Sehwag, Damien Martyn, Inzamam and Aravinda unlucky to miss out.
 
Started watching in 1999
Saeed anwar, Rahul dravid, inzy, yousuf, younus, kallis, Bell, Langer, lara , sachin, sanga and above all Peterson
 
I started watching in 1991 and here is the list of my top 10 batsmen in TEST MATCHES only !!!

Dravid
Lara
Sangakkara
Kallis
Sachin
Ponting
Hayden
Martin Crowe
Younis
Langer
 
1. Brian Lara

2. Ricky Ponting

3. Sachin Tendulkar

4. Jacques Kallis

5. Rahul Dravid

6. Younis Khan

7. Andy Flower

8. Mohammad Yousuf

9. Mathew Hayden

10. Kumar Sangakara

11. Kevin Pieterson (had to name him)
 
shaz619 said:
Nice to see Tresothick get a mention, loved him; was such a destructive opener for England. I rate him as an England legend, would have him open the innings of their all time Test XI with Boycott [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
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Always enjoyed watching him tee off at the start of an innings, ball ripping through the covers :)
 
1. Ponting
2. Lara
3. Tendulkar
4. Younis
5. Sangakara
6. Kallis
7. Dravid
8. Inzi
9. KP
10. AB
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Very little to separate some of these guys tbh, picking 10 guys wasn't as difficult as ranking them :))
 
Started in mid 1990's missing the best years of Javed Miandad. For this reason I have excluded him from the list.

Teenda
Lara
Ponting
Inzi
Dravid
Greame Smith
Kevin Pietersen
Amla
Sanga.
Gilchrist
 
from what i remember and who i rated the best when i saw them play.

Tendulkar
Lara
Ponting
Dravid
KP
G Smith
Amla
Sanga
Younis
Inzi



These are the top 10 guys i enjoyed
 
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This will be debatable as usual but here goes with a suitable lack of objectivity:

1. Brian Lara
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Kumar Sangakkara
7. Hashim Amla
8. Kevin Pietersen
9. Aravinda De Silva
10. Inzamam ul Haq

I know I'll be slaughtered by the Younis Khan fans on here.
 
Top 10 is a bit irrelevant. Here are my top 5 and i will try if i can push my brain till 10. Here you go:-

1. Sachin
Comfortably the finest test as well as ODI batsman of his era. Ruled the game in terms of quality of runs and in sheer stats. Him being elegant with the bat, well balanced, having the perfect textbook style technique and humble makes the selection even more easier and proud.


2. Brian Lara
Was a monster on his day. Not much separating him and Sachin and many would probably take him over Sachin but those two are without question the top two of their era respectively.

3. Ricky Ponting
There is Tendulkar and Lara's league and then you have the rest of the great batsmen after a massive gap. Whatever lies between those two universes probably belongs to Ricky Ponting's realm. If not for the phenomenal dip in standards post his phenomenal peak, Ponting would probably be counted in the same league. Lack of runs in India remains a blot on his stellar career.

4. Jaques Kallis
Runs everywhere. Scored heavily over a decade without any apparent dip in form. What Kallis didn't achieve as a batsman that the other 3 above him did probably is he never dominated bowling line-ups in a manner they could. Despite the high end average, one couldn't really claim with great pride and authority at any instance in his career that he was comfortably the best in the world. It just so happened that someone was always doing it better.

5. Rahul Dravid
India's unofficial test opener throughout his career. There were time she scored 20 runs off 80 deliveries which in the context of the game seemed as useful as a 100 on a flat pitch. Played legendary knocks. Would have rated him above Kallis if he had a more consistent record in RSA/Aus.


I tried writing further. I think i can't push myself more. You have a few players after that roughly at the same level.
 
Sehwag, Mathew Hayden, Jayasurya, Gilchrist and Kevin Peterson - All 5 were genuine match winners. Yes they had their weaknesses but their strengths were terrorising and game changing. They made watching test cricket interesting.

Graeme Smith, Dravid, Ponting and Hussey - all of them were team players to the core and won a lot of games for their teams.

Tkar and Lara - they were more of media properties and were made to look much better than they actually were. I would pick Graeme Smith over them any day if I am chasing 300 in 4th inning or Steve waugh over them if i have to bat an entire day to save a test match. Yet its fashionable to call them greatest though both of them had won far fewer matches for their teams than all the others I have listed above.
 
shaz619 said:
State the year you started watching cricket (so we can critique you) and then provide your list.

I started watching in the year 1999.

1. Brian Lara
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Younis Khan
4. Rahul Dravid
5. Kumar Sangakara
6. Ricky Ponting
7. KP
8. Big Inzi
9. Kallis
10. Graem Smith
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1,2,6,4,9,5,10/7/3,Amla..That would be my top 10 in tests with the numbers mentioned from yours.
 
Started watching in 2004/05.

Top 10 in no particular order:

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Kumar Sangakkara
Mohammad Yousuf
Kevin Pietersen
Alastair Cook
Graeme Smith
Jacques Kallis
Michael Clarke

Honourable mentions: Younis Khan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Hashim Amla, Rahul Dravid, Michael Hussey.
 
Square Drive said:
Started watching in 2004/05.

Top 10 in no particular order:

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Kumar Sangakkara
Mohammad Yousuf
Kevin Pietersen
Alastair Cook
Graeme Smith
Jacques Kallis
Michael Clarke

Honourable mentions: Younis Khan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Hashim Amla, Rahul Dravid, Michael Hussey.
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Yes, I am sure that you sat and watched Test matches at 6 years old. :shkhan
 
Rayyman said:
Yes, I am sure that you sat and watched Test matches at 6 years old. :shkhan
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Indeed I did, as that was my first ever visit to Pakistan.

Of course I properly started 2008/09 onwards, as that's when I began to develop a better understanding of the game. :hafeez

However, I've been watching from 2004/05 nonetheless.
 
Watching cricket since 1990. Here are my top 10:

1. Ricky Ponting
2. Brian Lara
3. Jacques Kallis
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Kumar Sangakarra
6. Rahul Dravid
7. Hashim Amla
8. Steve Waugh
9. Kevin Pietersen
10. Younis Khan
 
Started watching the game in 1986.

Top 10 test bats
1. Viv Richards
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Brian Lara
4. Sunil Gavaskar
5. Allan Border
6. Rahul Dravid
7. Ricky Ponting
8. Jaques Kallis
9. Kumar Sangakkara
10 Steven Waugh
 
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The_Odd_One said:
Watching cricket since 1990. Here are my top 10:

1. Ricky Ponting
2. Brian Lara
3. Jacques Kallis
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Kumar Sangakarra
6. Rahul Dravid
7. Hashim Amla
8. Steve Waugh
9. Kevin Pietersen
10. Younis Khan
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Good list. Surprising to see Waugh and KP there, however. You also seem to underrate Younis.
 
Red Devil said:
1. Ponting
2. Lara
3. Tendulkar
4. Younis
5. Sangakara
6. Kallis
7. Dravid
8. Inzi
9. KP
10. AB

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Very little to separate some of these guys tbh, picking 10 guys wasn't as difficult as ranking them :))
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Are you having second thoughts about your line up by any chance ? :yk3 lads [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] get ready.
 
Bilal7 said:
Good list. Surprising to see Waugh and KP there, however. You also seem to underrate Younis.
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Khan has made the top 10 list of most posters, great to see; and then you have people questing his ATG status at times, it's probably hard for them to admit because he's not aesthetically gifted
 
shaz619 said:
Khan has made the top 10 list of most posters, great to see; and then you have people questing his ATG status at times, it's probably hard for them to admit because he's not aesthetically gifted
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Being a top 10 batsman (similar to Clarke, VVS, AB etc) from the 1990s doesn't mean he is up there with the best of all time as an all-time great.
 
Square Drive said:
Started watching in 2004/05.

Top 10 in no particular order:

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Kumar Sangakkara
Mohammad Yousuf
Kevin Pietersen
Alastair Cook
Graeme Smith
Jacques Kallis
Michael Clarke

Honourable mentions: Younis Khan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Hashim Amla, Rahul Dravid, Michael Hussey.
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Moyo over Dravid and Younis? :yk2
 
shaz619 said:
Khan has made the top 10 list of most posters, great to see; and then you have people questing his ATG status at times, it's probably hard for them to admit because he's not aesthetically gifted
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Yeah, Khan isn't flashy so the T20 crowd here is unable to appreciate his legendary quality.
 
Sachin136 said:
Being a top 10 batsman (similar to Clarke, VVS, AB etc) from the 1990s doesn't mean he is up there with the best of all time as an all-time great.
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It is confirmation that he is the greatest and among them
 
No idea when I first watched a cricket match, always been part of my family so I've pretty much watched cricket all my 27 years BUT I can properly remember the game from around 98/99, so I'll go from there.

Now, objectively speaking (runs scored, the rate at which they were scored (sr and avg), innings played at crucial times, skill level, entertainment value being some of the criteria), these are the top 10 best batsmen of my lifetime, across ests and ODIs:

1. Tendulkar
2. Ponting
3. Lara
4. AB
5. Amla
6. KP
7. Yousuf
8. Dravid
9. Smith
10. Kallis

My favourites list would look somewhat different.

I'm sure my top 10 could be switched around too and some names taken off, others added but I think the top 7 is pretty set.
 
dildildalwalla said:
No idea when I first watched a cricket match, always been part of my family so I've pretty much watched cricket all my 27 years BUT I can properly remember the game from around 98/99, so I'll go from there.

Now, objectively speaking (runs scored, the rate at which they were scored (sr and avg), innings played at crucial times, skill level, entertainment value being some of the criteria), these are the top 10 best batsmen of my lifetime, across ests and ODIs:

1. Tendulkar
2. Ponting
3. Lara
4. AB
5. Amla
6. KP
7. Yousuf
8. Dravid
9. Smith
10. Kallis

My favourites list would look somewhat different.

I'm sure my top 10 could be switched around too and some names taken off, others added but I think the top 7 is pretty set.
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Great list, although I disagree with Yousuf being there and not Inzamam. Can you do a test only list?
 
shaz619 said:
SD legit doesn't like Khan, he has been cheering for him out of respect for his elders and his retirement :))
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Moyo might have been better to watch bu Dravid and Younis grit and character give them the advantage. Plus they scored more pressure runs than Moyo.
 
Hasan123 said:
Moyo might have been better to watch bu Dravid and Younis grit and character give them the advantage. Plus they scored more pressure runs than Moyo.
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I like Moyo and that season in 2006 was just incredible, but beyond that there's not much to write about his Test career. He averages 33 in India, and regardless off what people make of the opposition's quality at the time runs against them are highly valued given the pressure scenario and the bragging rights which were on the line not to mention the spin challenge. He also averages 33 in Lanka, 26 in SA and 31 in AUS. No one has been a bigger Test match winner and pressure player then Younis Khan for Pakistan in my lifetime.
 
Bilal7 said:
Great list, although I disagree with Yousuf being there and not Inzamam. Can you do a test only list?
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Swap in Inzy with any of the bottom three I feel. I will probably have to spend a little more time to make a truly solid list I'm comfortable with.

Test only...let's see, I'd probably have something like:

1. Tendulkar
2. Lara
3. Ponting (interchangeable with Lara imo)
4. Khan
5. KP
6. Yousuf
7. Dravid
8. Jayawardene
9. Sangakkara
10. Cook/Smith/Inzy/Clarke/Amla/AB

I can't decide on that 10th. Cook is the best opener I have watched live, Smith is domineering, Amla is class, Inzy is a true fighter, AB is a swashbuckler. Maybe throw Kallis in there somewhere?
 
shaz619 said:
I like Moyo and that season in 2006 was just incredible, but beyond that there's not much to write about his Test career. He averages 33 in India, and regardless off what people make of the opposition's quality at the time runs against them are highly valued given the pressure scenario and the bragging rights which were on the line not to mention the spin challenge. He also averages 33 in Lanka, 26 in SA and 31 in AUS. No one has been a bigger Test match winner and pressure player then Younis Khan for Pakistan in my lifetime.
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In England he did well but yes under pressure he was a disappointment .

But tbh I agree with Mamoon when he said had he played from 2010-2013 he could have brilliant stats. He wouldn't have a problem scoring in uae.

Brilliant batsmen to watch but a let down in pressure situations. He should have matched /or surpassed YK test stats for someone with his elegance and timing.
 
Hasan123 said:
In England he did well but yes under pressure he was a disappointment .

But tbh I agree with Mamoon when he said had he played from 2010-2013 he could have brilliant stats. He wouldn't have a problem scoring in uae.

Brilliant batsmen to watch but a let down in pressure situations. He should have matched /or surpassed YK test stats for someone with his elegance and timing.
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On flat pitches definitely, but if there's a help for the seamer or spinner he will fail (or like you say in pressure situations, 4th innings etc). At his peak he averaged 33 in India and in 2010 last tour of AUS he averaged about 30. So besides 2006, I think he is generally overrated; no doubt in full flow he was a joy to watch. At his best maybe he could have been a batsman similar to Amla, but he lacked Amla's mental toughness and grit.
 
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shaz619 said:
On flat pitches definitely, but if there's a help for the seamer or spinner he will fail (or like you say in pressure situations, 4th innings etc). At his peak he averaged 33 in India and in 2010 last tour of AUS he averaged about 30. So besides 2006, I think he is generally overrated; no doubt in full flow he was a joy to watch.
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In England he did well regardless of conditions.

Maybe [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] can answer why he was so bad under pressure and failed in Australia ,India, and South Africa.
 
Saeed Anwar
Javaid Miandad
Brian Lara
Tendulkar
Hashim Amla
Younis Khan
Inzi
Steve Waugh
Graham Thorpe
Azhar Ali
 
Hasan123 said:
In England he did well regardless of conditions.

Maybe [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] can answer why he was so bad under pressure and failed in Australia ,India, and South Africa.
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In England the summer was beautiful in 2006, conditions were great for batting. No doubt he may have played some gems here and there in challenging situations but there are few and far between, Azhar Mahmood and Taufeeq Umar have a hundred in SA; point is every now and then someone will have their moment in the sun, but we have to define their careers by consistency more then anything else
 
shaz619 said:
In England the summer was beautiful in 2006, conditions were great for batting. No doubt he may have played some gems here and there in challenging situations but there are few and far between, Azhar Mahmood and Taufeeq Umar have a hundred in SA; point is every now and then someone will have their moment in the sun, but we have to define their careers by consistency more then anything else
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Btw what do you think of my list?
 
Hasan123 said:
Btw what do you think of my list?
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It's a good list, perhaps I'd swap Cook with KP; but I can see how that can be a challenging one, for me it's a no brainer because I tend to favour players that can turn a game on its head with a moment of madness
 
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