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Who do you want as Pakistan's next head coach?

ZaynM said:
Why would you say that? Good record both as chief selector and interim coach.
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because i disagree with that assement and also i dont think he is a good person to be coach, if you need more info as to why google 'mohsin khan ramiz raja' and trust me theres more then just that
 
hashmist said:
Two words: Pappi, Japhee

That was his whole approach to coaching when he was the interim coach. Don't want him.

I'd say:

1) Kirsten
2) Punter
3) Langer

In that order.
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You know that pappi, japhee part is a big part of coaching aka motivating the players and acting as a father figure. It shows good interpersonal skills. Something vicky bhai clearly lacked.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
because i disagree with that assement and also i dont think he is a good person to be coach, if you need more info as to why google 'mohsin khan ramiz raja' and trust me theres more then just that
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Googled it and all i could see was character assassination by Ramiz making the usual mohsin drunkard remarks. The point that in Mohsin's short term we won three series against Bangladesh, a strong Sri Lanka and world number 1 England is a testament to his ability as a good coach.
 
ZaynM said:
You know that pappi, japhee part is a big part of coaching aka motivating the players and acting as a father figure. It shows good interpersonal skills. Something vicky bhai clearly lacked.
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Sure. But you need more than just that to be successful at this level. These are professional men we're talking about, not some middle school kids who need cuddling and reassurance. We need someone who can talk strategy with them and make sure they follow through. We also need someone who works with them on their weaknesses make sure they deliver. We were only successful in Tests during his stint as coach and that was due to Misbah and YK. That didn't change even after he was gone. Our record in other formats was still pathetic under him.

Game of cricket has evolved since likes of MHK and others were playing it, and Pak team/management has failed to evolve with time. We need someone from 'modern' cricket playing nations as a coach who has been part of that evolution to be able to compete with those countries again. That is why I think we need to have likes of Kirsten or Punter as our next coach.
 
Gary Kirsten
Tom Moody
Inzamam
Rahul dravid
Dean Jones
Jacques kallis
 
ZaynM said:
Googled it and all i could see was character assassination by Ramiz making the usual mohsin drunkard remarks. The point that in Mohsin's short term we won three series against Bangladesh, a strong Sri Lanka and world number 1 England is a testament to his ability as a good coach.
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trust me it isnt a character assassination

plenty have seen it
 
I would rather have a Director of Cricket for Team Pakistan with specialist coaches for each discipline.

Make a someone really competent the Director of Cricket and let him build his team of coaches and backroom staff (within a certain budget).
Also make this person a member of the selection panel.
 
ZaynM said:
If we are going for local then i would prefer for us to go for Mudassar Nazar or Carlo MHK.

If we are going for international then Gary would be an ideal choice. Other options could be: Moody, Jones.
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If mudassar nazar comes u can say farewell to umar akmal and shehzad
 
ZaynM said:
They might be right with regards to MHK's drinking but this has nothing do with his coaching. Isnt drinking his personal choice? Who are we to judge?
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Differnece between drinking and drunk , plus he is the coach of Pakistan, if he can't set example why do we complain about the others and we haven't to his complete of tactical insight, no knowledge of the modern game and his massive ego
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Differnece between drinking and drunk , plus he is the coach of Pakistan, if he can't set example why do we complain about the others and we haven't to his complete of tactical insight, no knowledge of the modern game and his massive ego
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According to ARY news, Dean Jones is the front runner for head coach. I hope to god that does not happen as he looks like the guy who just wants to have fun. Plus he has absolutely no coaching experience.
 
MABA said:
According to ARY news, Dean Jones is the front runner for head coach. I hope to god that does not happen as he looks like the guy who just wants to have fun. Plus he has absolutely no coaching experience.
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I don't want deans either, he doesn't know what he is getting into
 
MABA said:
According to ARY news, Dean Jones is the front runner for head coach. I hope to god that does not happen as he looks like the guy who just wants to have fun. Plus he has absolutely no coaching experience.
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He has no idea.
 
Deano.

I'm well aware of his limitations both as a coach and as a person.

But Waqar Younis and Mushtaq Ahmed proved with Rahat Ali and Yasir Shah just how much technical improvement a specialist coach can bring.

If Andrew rather than Grant Flower was your batting coach I'd believe that your batsmen were as improved as they can be. But your batting coach averaged just 29.54 as a Test batsman.

So I think that Dean Jones has a decent chance of getting a fair bit of improvement out of your batsmen.
 
I really want rahul dravid but realistically dean Jones is an obvious choice here
 
If John Wright still coaches, Pakistan should bag him.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Differnece between drinking and drunk , plus he is the coach of Pakistan, if he can't set example why do we complain about the others and we haven't to his complete of tactical insight, no knowledge of the modern game and his massive ego
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What example are you trying to ask him to set? Is he coaching a cricket team or bunch of jihadis? I dont know how you managed to say that he does not have any knowledge of the modern game or any tactical insight when he is the same guy who in his short term as interim coach won us three series against top sides like England and Sri Lanka. Its a joke that you are absolutely avoiding the facts and trying to base your argument on conjecture.

You want no bodies like Azhar Mehmood as Pakistani Head coach but when it comes to proven people like MHK you claim that they are tactically inept. There is nothing to back your opinion as well. Whereas there is evidence against your argument.
 
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pakistan should look for india's most sought after batting coach at the moment
PRAVIN AMRE former india test cricketer...coached rahane rohit uthhappa from their childhood...all set to give shreyas iyer another exciting prospect...
Amre is from shardashram school mumbai and student of ramakant achrekar sir
 
Sanga is a good shout from an early post.

He would teach the guys much more than cricket.


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A lot of you have mentioned Dean Jones, and he's a stern guy for the most part but after reading a couple articles about him, maybe he isn't the coach we need as there were allegations he was involved in a fixing scandal back in Aus. We don't need to scenario again, and I don't think a lot of our former players will be too happy about hiring a suspected cheater.

It may all be hog wash, but I'm just throwing this in there.
 
As I said in another thread, best man for the job is MJ... I have being very impressed with his tactical and insightful comments during the WT20, he focus on little things that adds up which others don't. He took average SL team to 5/6 finals, the way he used Milanga was also good. Under him SL was tactically efficient, something we lack dearly...

Also, he understand and had played in modern era, which is a big deal... He understand every format of game very well... Plus he is asian too, can work with our guys better than Auses or English...
 
yasir said:
As I said in another thread, best man for the job is MJ... I have being very impressed with his tactical and insightful comments during the WT20, he focus on little things that adds up which others don't. He took average SL team to 5/6 finals, the way he used Milanga was also good. Under him SL was tactically efficient, something we lack dearly...

Also, he understand and had played in modern era, which is a big deal... He understand every format of game very well... Plus he is asian too, can work with our guys better than Auses or English...
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Who is MJ?
 
ZaynM said:
What example are you trying to ask him to set? Is he coaching a cricket team or bunch of jihadis? I dont know how you managed to say that he does not have any knowledge of the modern game or any tactical insight when he is the same guy who in his short term as interim coach won us three series against top sides like England and Sri Lanka. Its a joke that you are absolutely avoiding the facts and trying to base your argument on conjecture.
You want no bodies like Azhar Mehmood as Pakistani Head coach but when it comes to proven people like MHK you claim that they are tactically inept. There is nothing to back your opinion as well. Whereas there is evidence against your argument.
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okay now i see there is no point in debating this
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Could be an interesting choice. Somehow I don't think anyone from the PCB would even be aware of him.
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That's true, they have pinned it to either Jones or Aqib for now...

Both MJ and Sanga are good choices, somebody in PCB should be talking to them, but I am afraid nobody is doing that...
 
Junaids said:
Deano.

I'm well aware of his limitations both as a coach and as a person.

But Waqar Younis and Mushtaq Ahmed proved with Rahat Ali and Yasir Shah just how much technical improvement a specialist coach can bring.

If Andrew rather than Grant Flower was your batting coach I'd believe that your batsmen were as improved as they can be. But your batting coach averaged just 29.54 as a Test batsman.

So I think that Dean Jones has a decent chance of getting a fair bit of improvement out of your batsmen.
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Dean jones is a combustible character. If I recall didn't get along with some of the team mates and also his board
 
Nasir hussain. Best cricketing mind atm.

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Am i the only one who wish's waqar makes a u-turn? Seems like he genuinely wanted to instill a professional approach within the team, also wanted to improve fitness levels, but unfortunately due to the sad nature of Pakistan cricket player power defeated him at times (akmal, shahzad).
However if one analyses waqar's stint as coach separating the format of the game into test and the limited overs version of the game, its clearly evident he achieved a lot in the test arena, one can just go back and look at some of the results and performances during that period and it can be seen that misbah and waqar worked closely together without any so called politics involved in the team or against each other.
Unfortunately when it comes to the limited overs version of the game and personnel in the team change, eg akmal afridi and co the Pakistan team seems to all of a sudden start performing below par, this is not a coincidence its a clear case of politics and sign that there is no harmony in the dressing room, seems like when it comes to the limited over side and personnel change the professional approach and seriousness drops down a few notches which causes dressing room issues between players and coaching staff, and this can all be confirmed by the poor run of results and rankings. Also Waqar was unfortunately not taken seriously enough by the board on the many occasions that he reported bad fitness and attitude of certain individuals within the limited overs squad, some how these individuals found themselves back in the team, now we can see this is what happens when player power becomes bigger then the coach and team. As said by waqar these players need to be sent back to domestic cricket and need to earn there place back in the team with performances and improved fitness and attitude, and most importantly to understand what is expected and required to represent Pakistan at the international level.
 
ZaynM said:
What example are you trying to ask him to set? Is he coaching a cricket team or bunch of jihadis? I dont know how you managed to say that he does not have any knowledge of the modern game or any tactical insight when he is the same guy who in his short term as interim coach won us three series against top sides like England and Sri Lanka. Its a joke that you are absolutely avoiding the facts and trying to base your argument on conjecture.

You want no bodies like Azhar Mehmood as Pakistani Head coach but when it comes to proven people like MHK you claim that they are tactically inept. There is nothing to back your opinion as well. Whereas there is evidence against your argument.
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He thinks Ahmed Shehzad should be persisted with. That reason enough for you?
 
Sahibzada Mohammad Shahid Khan as player-coach-captain-opener-new ball bowler. Would not but be a token gesture for his years of dedicated service to the cause.
 
Shahid Khan Afridi.

The best damn batsman in the history of the game.


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No?

We need someone bullish. Who can let the Pakistanis unleash their inner mongrel thats been hibernating for over a decade now. No nonsense, unorthodox because orthodox doesnt suit us, someone that allows for the natural flair to come out, does not put up with the bull****. Whoever fits that bill, would be a great coach for us.
Ponting, Hussey, Deano, KP????? Maybe?
 
aliasad1998 said:
Wasnt he made scapegoat after 96?
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Pretty much, made the odd return here or there but never followed up with compelling performances to maintain his spot. Think he wasn't needed to be honest; not when they had a batting order of Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly and Azharuddin - with Laxman in reserve.
 
Pete Rose said:
Dean jones is a combustible character. If I recall didn't get along with some of the team mates and also his board
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Deano was anti establishment because NSW is establishment. He wanted to break their shackles and he was good enough to do it. He was ostracized for it by the NSW lobby (Border, Waughs, etc)

There are other cricketers who have had that problem as well, Warne is one.
 
Stewie said:
Deano was anti establishment because NSW is establishment. He wanted to break their shackles and he was good enough to do it. He was ostracized for it by the NSW lobby (Border, Waughs, etc)

There are other cricketers who have had that problem as well, Warne is one.
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not sure if that works at the pcb or the current lot of players.
I am all for shaking people out of their comfort zone and encouraging creative conflict - just not sure if that's the kind of stuff that geta much support or leeway at the PCB.
At the end of the day you are dealing with infirm old folks running the PCB, the dimwitted egocentric players, and the hack journalists who play favorites.
 
My support goes to Mudassar Nazar, not sure if he is even under consideration
 
slog said:
also i think while a good man manager he is overrated as coach. He got success with indiana and south african sides brimming with individual superstars and he was able to quickly make them into a strong, well oiled machine. However with pakistan the problems runs deeper which is something i don't think kirsten is equipped to do

in a dream world tom moody would be a dream choice
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i. Want. Moody.
 
1. Tom Moody
2. Paul Farbrace
3. Gary Kirsten
4. Mike Hesson
5. Anyone but Misbah
 
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