Who is racist in this case?

[minamino]

My classmates and lecturer has been accusing me of being racist due to my reservations about being in a group with fellow 5 Chinese students ofcourse due to the virus.

I didn't select this group but was put in randomly since I was a bit late but how could I be racist when people who picked groups didn't select any Chinese student at all and all of them were put in a group together and I was the unlucky other to be in that group?

 

[Down2Earth]

You're being openly racist whereas the others are being indirectly racist. Just group up with them. I'm sure you'll survive

 

[CricketDon]

My classmates and lecturer has been accusing me of being racist due to my reservations about being in a group with fellow 5 Chinese students ofcourse due to the virus.

I didn't select this group but was put in randomly since I was a bit late but how could I be racist when people who picked groups didn't select any Chinese student at all and all of them were put in a group together and I was the unlucky other to be in that group?

Well your class mates are racist and you’re racist. Ignorant and have little to no grasp of anatomy or medicine.

 

[minamino]

You're being openly racist whereas the others are being indirectly racist. Just group up with them. I'm sure you'll survive

It's not just about the virus but also about the ability. Most of them are quite duds especially when it comes to presentations. They are good at Accounting and numbers and I am gonna give them credit for that.

 

[Shaddy86]

All of you are being pathetic Inc the teacher for putting all of them in one group. The Chinese guys are probably a lot more cautious and careful about the virus than anyone else.

 

[Waleed93]

Your teacher and classmates' reactions are understandable.

By saying that you don't want to work with them because they are Chinese, and thus could be infected by the virus, you unintentionally hurt their feelings and make them believe as if they were some kind of untouchable things and everyone should stay away from them. All of this because of something they can't even control.

Imagine, if (God Forbid), a terrorist attack takes place tomorrow, and your classmates refuse to work with you because you are a Muslim, and you share the same religion as the terrorist who killed hundreds of innocents, how would you feel?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

For some reason I keep thinking OP is [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]'s little brother.

 

[minamino]

You can't blame the teacher tbh because most of the Chinese students would like to be with themselves as well in groups and it was upon the students to select their group members and they ignored most of them in all seminar groups.

 

[someone21]

You are the racist. With your flawed logic, another person can have reservations with any South Asians due to terrorism....

 

[AdamM97]

My classmates and lecturer has been accusing me of being racist due to my reservations about being in a group with fellow 5 Chinese students ofcourse due to the virus.

I didn't select this group but was put in randomly since I was a bit late but how could I be racist when people who picked groups didn't select any Chinese student at all and all of them were put in a group together and I was the unlucky other to be in that group?

I’m sorry to say, but you’re being a racist. Stereotyping an entire race is a form of racism. You have no proof that they’re carriers of coronavirus.

 

[Mamoon]

I sympathize with you.

This is not racism, this is just being careful. Those Chinese students have a better chance of carrying the virus than non-Chinese students.

 

[Mamoon]

You are the racist. With your flawed logic, another person can have reservations with any South Asians due to terrorism....

Actually, your logic is flawed. Terrorism is not a virus - you cannot catch it from others.

If a person has reservations over hanging out with a South Asian because he feel that he might be a terrorist even though he doesn’t have any proof, then he is definitely discriminating.

In this case, you cannot tell if a person is a carrier or not. Hence, better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Mamoon]

Quite a few people are thinking about not going to Chinese restaurants in Pakistan these days because some of our CPEC masters might be present, and they don’t want to be in close proximity these days.

This is not racism or discrimination. This is called being sensible.

 

[Gilly]

I sympathize with you.

This is not racism, this is just being careful. Those Chinese students have a better chance of carrying the virus than non-Chinese students.

No its racism.

If a student from Denmark did not want to be in a group of Afghanistan students because they are at a higher risk of being Terrorists than other students would you sympathize with him.

 

[Mamoon]

So multiple people have made the false terrorism comparison. Ridiculous really.

 

[minamino]

I don't know how my classmates are better off when they didn't pick any Chinese students when they had the chance. In the first week of uni, when the virus was not in the news, A lot of my classmates had Chinese students in their group as well for rehearsal yet now they have suddenly changed their groups as they are more 'comfortable' with their friends.

 

[Technics 1210]

So taking precaution, given then news etc, is now racist?

What is this world coming to!

 

[AdamM97]

I don't know how my classmates are better off when they didn't pick any Chinese students when they had the chance. In the first week of uni, when the virus was not in the news, A lot of my classmates had Chinese students in their group as well for rehearsal yet now they have suddenly changed their groups as they are more 'comfortable' with their friends.

Have those Chinese students been to China recently?

If not, then it’s clearly racism and your assuming that these students could be carriers just because they’re Chinese.

 

[Mamoon]

No its racism.

If a student from Denmark did not want to be in a group of Afghanistan students because they are at a higher risk of being Terrorists than other students would you sympathize with him.

Again, that is a nonsense analogy.

If a Danish person does not want to be in a group of Afghans because of the Afghans are terrorists stereotype, then he is discriminating against them.

If the danish person does not want to be in a group of Afghans that have ties with an Afghan terrorist, then he has the right to be cautious.

No one is discriminating against Chinese people because they are Chinese; people are simply cautious because Chinese people right now have the greatest possibility of being corona virus carriers.

This isn’t limited to the Chinese only. Anyone who has been to China lately should understand if people don’t want to be around them for now.

If they feel discriminated, it is their problem. No one should risk their lives just because others would call them racist.

 

[Mamoon]

No one in this thread who is handing out the racist cards would be comfortable in his situation, but it is easy to sit behind a computer and call other people racist.

 

[Gilly]

So taking precaution, given then news etc, is now racist?

What is this world coming to!

Its always been racist, if a person feels unsafe when around blacks they are racist, if a person prefers not to fly on a plane because someone dressed similar to a ISIS fighter is on the flight it is racist, if a person does not want to be in the same group as a chinese person because of a virus its racism.

 

[AdamM97]

No one in this thread who is handing out the racist cards would be comfortable in his situation, but it is easy to sit behind a computer and call other people racist.

I would be comfortable. In fact, I just returned from university and worked on a project with a few people, one of them was a Chinese female.

Obviously I would be careful if I knew that a Chinese person had been to China recently, but assuming stuff without any shred of proof and stereotyping is racism.

 

[Gilly]

Again, that is a nonsense analogy.

If a Danish person does not want to be in a group of Afghans because of the Afghans are terrorists stereotype, then he is discriminating against them.

If the danish person does not want to be in a group of Afghans that have ties with an Afghan terrorist, then he has the right to be cautious.

No one is discriminating against Chinese people because they are Chinese; people are simply cautious because Chinese people right now have the greatest possibility of being corona virus carriers.

This isn’t limited to the Chinese only. Anyone who has been to China lately should understand if people don’t want to be around them for now.

If they feel discriminated, it is their problem. No one should risk their lives just because others would call them racist.

OK I didnt know these chinese students has ties with people who carry the virus.

 

[Slog]

My classmates and lecturer has been accusing me of being racist due to my reservations about being in a group with fellow 5 Chinese students ofcourse due to the virus.

I didn't select this group but was put in randomly since I was a bit late but how could I be racist when people who picked groups didn't select any Chinese student at all and all of them were put in a group together and I was the unlucky other to be in that group?

Is the problem due to the corona virus ) or the fact is that you don’t want to be with them in the first place?

 

[minamino]

Is the problem due to the corona virus ) or the fact is that you don’t want to be with them in the first place?

I wouldn’t want them in my group anyways due to their lack of ability but I would have put more effort from my side if it wasn’t for coronavirus

 

[Mamoon]

I would be comfortable. In fact, I just returned from university and worked on a project with a few people, one of them was a Chinese female.

Obviously I would be careful if I knew that a Chinese person had been to China recently, but assuming stuff without any shred of proof and stereotyping is racism.

That person could have been in contact with someone from China who had the virus.

Had you caught the virus from your female colleague, would you be happy with your decision of not assuming stuff?

 

[Mamoon]

OK I didnt know these chinese students has ties with people who carry the virus.

They could have, you never know.

It is better to be virus-free and get called a racist on PP than to die.

 

[in_cutter]

My classmates and lecturer has been accusing me of being racist due to my reservations about being in a group with fellow 5 Chinese students ofcourse due to the virus.

I didn't select this group but was put in randomly since I was a bit late but how could I be racist when people who picked groups didn't select any Chinese student at all and all of them were put in a group together and I was the unlucky other to be in that group?

Pathetic from you. Just because they are quite..they are ‘duds’? They may be better than yourself?

 

[Gilly]

They could have, you never know.

It is better to be virus-free and get called a racist on PP than to die.

Same with the Afghani students, they could have you never know, explain why its different.

 

[AdamM97]

That person could have been in contact with someone from China who had the virus.

Had you caught the virus from your female colleague, would you be happy with your decision of not assuming stuff?

And what exactly is the likelihood of catching the virus from a random Chinese person in Sweden?

Going by your logic, airplanes should not let Muslims or brown people enter a plane for security reasons and black people shouldn’t be let anywhere near any grocery shops.

 

[Technics 1210]

The funny thing is, if the Op had asked students if they had been to China recently, the left would still label him a racist!

 

[minamino]

The funny thing is, if the Op had asked students if they had been to China recently, the left would still label him a racist!

I don’t have anything against left because I’m a left myself but the thing is that if I’m ‘racist’ then so are my classmates who had chance to pick Chinese students but they didn’t.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I wouldn’t want them in my group anyways due to their lack of ability but I would have put more effort from my side if it wasn’t for coronavirus

Maybe that's why your classmates didn't choose them, due to lack of ability rather than any virus. Maybe you are jumping to conclusions by associating your views with theirs?

 

[Gilly]

I don’t have anything against left because I’m a left myself but the thing is that if I’m ‘racist’ then so are my classmates who had chance to pick Chinese students but they didn’t.

Your classmates didnt pick them because they wanted stronger teams, you dont want to be in their group because they are chinese.

 

[Mamoon]

And what exactly is the likelihood of catching the virus from a random Chinese person in Sweden?

Going by your logic, airplanes should not let Muslims or brown people enter a plane for security reasons and black people shouldn’t be let anywhere near any grocery shops.

Because it is better to be safe than sorry. The random Chinese person has a greater chance of being a carrier or being in contact with a carrier than a non-Chinese person.

You neglected the risk, but if you were to end up catching the virus, you wouldn’t be proud of your decision.

The point is that some people are less risk-averse than others. It is not racism.

If you are a grocery shop owner in an area where there are black people who are known for stealing things from grocery story, you would be very naive not to be vigilant when a black guy comes to your store. That is not racism, it is just being careful.

Airplanes screen people before allowing them to board. The OP cannot screen Chinese people to see if they are corona virus carriers or not. Hence, because he doesn’t know, he is not comfortable in taking a risk.

This is not racism. This is simply taking a precautionary measure.

 

[topspin]

I have an alternative suggestion. Ask the Chinese students to complete the Questionnaire below:

1. When was the last time you visited China?
2. Whereabouts in China do you reside?
3. Have you been to Wuhan? If so when did you last visit?
4. Have you eaten Bats, Snakes or any other unusual animals? If so please specify the animal and when it was consumed.

 

[Mamoon]

Same with the Afghani students, they could have you never know, explain why its different.

I have already explained.

Terrorism is not a virus. You cannot catch “terrorism”. If a Danish person suspects that a certain Afghan is a terrorist, then is aversion will be justified provided that he gives a reasonable explanation for his suspicion.

If a danish person suspects that a certain Afghan is a terrorist just because he is Afghan, then he is being racist.

There is no way one can tell if a certain Chinese person is a carrier or not. Hence, it is nor racist if a person avoids to be in close proximity with Chinese people these days.

If racism means taking precautionary measures and not taking risks for safety purposes, then Australia is the most racist country in the cricket world because they have not toured Pakistan for 22 years.

 

[Gilly]

If you are a grocery shop owner in an area where there are black people who are known for stealing things from grocery story, you would be very naive not to be vigilant when a black guy comes to your store. That is not racism, it is just being careful.


This is not racism. This is simply taking a precautionary measure.

I dont think there is a better description of racism. You are saying because a black person steals from a shop then its safe to assume other blacks may steal from your shop.

 

[Mamoon]

I have an alternative suggestion. Ask the Chinese students to complete the Questionnaire below:

1. When was the last time you visited China?
2. Whereabouts in China do you reside?
3. Have you been to Wuhan? If so when did you last visit?
4. Have you eaten Bats, Snakes or any other unusual animals? If so please specify the animal and when it was consumed.

That’s the job of his school and his lecturer. The elephant in the room here is the carelessness of his school.

These days, they need to be more careful than to let Chinese students mingle freely with non-Chinese students. This isn’t racism, this is being careful. If these Chinese feel offended it is their problem.

If I lived in the West and my kid had Chinese students in his school, I would definitely not allow him to go school these days.

 

[troodon]

Health concern is not racist.

Everything has become racist these days and everybody wants to be a victim.

 

[AdamM97]

Because it is better to be safe than sorry. The random Chinese person has a greater chance of being a carrier or being in contact with a carrier than a non-Chinese person.

You neglected the risk, but if you were to end up catching the virus, you wouldn’t be proud of your decision.

The point is that some people are less risk-averse than others. It is not racism.

If you are a grocery shop owner in an area where there are black people who are known for stealing things from grocery story, you would be very naive not to be vigilant when a black guy comes to your store. That is not racism, it is just being careful.

Airplanes screen people before allowing them to board. The OP cannot screen Chinese people to see if they are corona virus carriers or not. Hence, because he doesn’t know, he is not comfortable in taking a risk.

This is not racism. This is simply taking a precautionary measure.

But what is the likelihood of me catching the virus from a random Chinese person on the other side of the planet? Even if the risk was 5-10%, I would have agreed with you. But the chance of such things happening are so low, that it’s stupid to even try avoiding Chinese people.


The odds of me being involved in a drunk car crash on a Saturday evening is greater than the odds of me catching the coronavirus by a random Chinese female. In that case, I will make sure I don’t leave my house on Saturdays. Better to be safe than sorry, right?

 

[Gilly]

I have already explained.

Terrorism is not a virus. You cannot catch “terrorism”. If a Danish person suspects that a certain Afghan is a terrorist, then is aversion will be justified provided that he gives a reasonable explanation for his suspicion.

If a danish person suspects that a certain Afghan is a terrorist just because he is Afghan, then he is being racist.

There is no way one can tell if a certain Chinese person is a carrier or not. Hence, it is nor racist if a person avoids to be in close proximity with Chinese people these days.

If racism means taking precautionary measures and not taking risks for safety purposes, then Australia is the most racist country in the cricket world because they have not toured Pakistan for 22 years.

Australia had good reason though, Pakistan is the only country in the cricket world that has gunned down cricketers.

 

[Mamoon]

I dont think there is a better description of racism. You are saying because a black person steals from a shop then its safe to assume other blacks may steal from your shop.

I disagree.

I will repeat. If you are a shop owner in a neighborhood where there is a group of black people that steals stuff from grocery stores, you have to be vigilant if a black guy shows up in your store because you wouldn’t know if he is one of them.

That is not being racist, that is being careful. Your are not discriminating against black people - you are only being careful because there is a group of black people in your neighborhood who are shoplifters.

I am sure you or someone else in your house locks the door at night. Why do you do it? Are you assuming that people in your neighborhood are burglars? Are you racist against the people of your neighborhood?

Those who are calling the OP racist need to differentiate between being racist and being cautious.

 

[Technics 1210]

Australia had good reason though, Pakistan is the only country in the cricket world that has gunned down cricketers.

Saars, Bird Flu, Swine Flu all have China in common. So going by your logic the OP has a good enough reason without being labelled a racist.

Oh the shooting took place almost 10 years ago, what was the reason for not touring 12 years prior to Pakistan?

 

[Mamoon]

Australia had good reason though, Pakistan is the only country in the cricket world that has gunned down cricketers.

What stopped them from touring until 2009? Were they being racist from 1999 to 2008, when all other teams toured Pakistan except Australia?

The OP also has a good reason. The nCoV strain of corona virus originated in China, and hence Chinese people are at a far, far greater risk.

This is the same logic that Australia used to be racist towards Pakistan.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Australia had good reason though, Pakistan is the only country in the cricket world that has gunned down cricketers.

You haven’t toured since the year 2000. The attack happened in 2009.

 

[Gilly]

What stopped them from touring until 2009? Were they being racist from 1999 to 2008, when all other teams toured Pakistan except Australia?

The OP also has a good reason. The nCoV strain of corona virus originated in China, and hence Chinese people are at a far, far greater risk.

This is the same logic that Australia used to be racist towards Pakistan.

So Australia not touring Pakistan has nothing to do with racism then?.

 

[minamino]

Your classmates didnt pick them because they wanted stronger teams, you dont want to be in their group because they are chinese.

If they wanted stronger teams then why did they select and bond well with them in the first week?

 

[minamino]

I have an alternative suggestion. Ask the Chinese students to complete the Questionnaire below:

1. When was the last time you visited China?
2. Whereabouts in China do you reside?
3. Have you been to Wuhan? If so when did you last visit?
4. Have you eaten Bats, Snakes or any other unusual animals? If so please specify the animal and when it was consumed.

And what is the guarantee that they would answer it honestly since its not even official? People lie a lot in such useless questionnaires and surveys especially if it's unofficial.

 

[Gilly]

If they wanted stronger teams then why did they select and bond well with them in the first week?

They are obviously racist if they didnt pick them because they are chinese.

 

[Mamoon]

So Australia not touring Pakistan has nothing to do with racism then?.

Of course not. I was only using your logic of confusing risk-aversion and self-protection with racism, which is what you have done in this thread.

Australia not touring Pakistan is not racism, it is risk-aversion. They are more cautious than other sides and that is okay. Same goes for OP.

 

[minamino]

Arabs and Chinese are two types of student who you would not want in your group because a) They are careless, b) They are rich as hell and could earn in millions even if they don't get a degree at all.

But I had no issues in the past with being in group with them even though I scored really poorly last year when I was in a group with only Chinese students since it was group marking in that CW. I had Arab only group in the last semester and I managed to do well.

I wouldn't have had any issue with having Chinese students again this time as well because I have a lot of Chinese friends too but I changed my mind due to coronavirus.

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol of course it's racist. You are in school with them, if they had virus or will have virus you will catch it regardless, they are in same school as you!!!
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - I don't see your point on this one, this guy is definitely a racist, the kids are in same class so if they are infected then it will spread in class regardless, how does it matter if he's in their group or not? He only declined it because the current environment is stereotyping racism against Chinese.

 

[sindhiboy]

Arabs and Chinese are two types of student who you would not want in your group because a) They are careless, b) They are rich as hell and could earn in millions even if they don't get a degree at all.

But I had no issues in the past with being in group with them even though I scored really poorly last year when I was in a group with only Chinese students since it was group marking in that CW. I had Arab only group in the last semester and I managed to do well.

I wouldn't have had any issue with having Chinese students again this time as well because I have a lot of Chinese friends too but I changed my mind due to coronavirus.

I have found that chineese students can either be the worst group members you can have or one of the best. It depends on whether they struggle in English or nor ,and as you said, if they are brats and don't bother to work at all.

I think the same may apply to arabs, although I don't have alot of experience with them

 

[MenInG]

Asian people in the UK say the coronavirus outbreak has led to a rise in racism - such as people appearing to avoid them on public transport.

It comes as China's UK ambassador warned against "rumours and panic" over the virus.

Spoiler

Three cases have been identified in Britain so far - with one more diagnosed on Thursday.

However, a Burmese food writer from London posted photos of a Tube journey which showed people choosing to stand rather than sit next to her.

"I got on to the Victoria line at Highbury and Islington and was on my way to Oxford Circus. Platform was full, carriage was full," said MiMi Aye.

"I noticed that no-one had sat down either side of me and I thought 'Huh, that's weird' ... I decided to take photos of the empty seats around me.


"People around me looked very uncomfortable and wouldn't catch my eye."

Others have posted on social media about similar experiences.

Writer Angela Hui tweeted: "Don't you just love to see it when a man sits in the empty seat next to you on the Tube and immediately gets back up muttering 'errr, not sitting next to coronavirus'."

In Sheffield, a Chinese student was reportedly pushed and abused for wearing a face mask.

South Yorkshire Police said they were "liaising with both universities and representatives from the Chinese community in the city to offer reassurance and establish further details".

Ken Chung, a British-Chinese comedian, posted: "Less than 0.001% of Chinese people have coronavirus yet more than 99.999% have already experienced coronaracism."

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has spoken out against racist attitudes over the outbreak.

"I deplore any attacks on the Chinese community. This is not about one part of the world," he said on Thursday.

"It's about making sure that we have the proper response. We have plans in place, we're working through those plans."

Liu Xiaoming, China's UK ambassador, urged Britain to support his country and warned people to stay level-headed.

"It is of hope that governments of all countries, including the UK, should understand and support China's efforts, avoid overreaction, avoid creating panic, and ensure normal co-operation and exchanges between countries," he said.

There have also been instances of racism reported around the world since the outbreak began - a little over a month ago.

Twitter users in France have been using the hashtag #JeNeSuisPasUnVirus - "I am not a virus" to fight back against prejudice.

A group of Chinese tourists were also allegedly spat at in Venice, while US beauty blogger Michelle Phan tweeted: "Why are some of you telling me to go back to eating bats? I'm American you ignorant f****."

Another tweet seeking to put the virus into context has been liked by nearly 200,000 people.

There were also reports in Australia's Daily Telegraph last week that people had avoided doing CPR on a man who collapsed and died in Sydney's Chinatown over fears he could have the virus.

A police spokesperson did not comment on the claims.

However, a video is also being shared that shows people with a more compassionate approach.

People hugged a masked Asian man who stood in the centre of Florence with a sign reading: "I'm not a virus, I'm a human, eradicate the prejudice."

Italy last week suspended all flights from China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan until the end of April.

Outside mainland China, at least 240 cases of the virus have been confirmed, with 28 cases in Europe, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

In China, 563 people have died, but the daily jump in cases is getting bigger.

Figures early on Thursday said the number of confirmed cases there had increased 3,694 to 28,018.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...asian-people-after-outbreak-in-china-11927470

 

[minamino]

I am very careful about this. I can differentiate between Chinese and other Far Eastern people. I don't want them to feel discriminated but there is an Urdu saying: Jaan hai toh jahaan hai

 

[Mamoon]

Lol of course it's racist. You are in school with them, if they had virus or will have virus you will catch it regardless, they are in same school as you!!!
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - I don't see your point on this one, this guy is definitely a racist, the kids are in same class so if they are infected then it will spread in class regardless, how does it matter if he's in their group or not? He only declined it because the current environment is stereotyping racism against Chinese.

Not necessarily.

It is recommended to maintain a distance of at least 3 ft from an infected person and to avoid touching surface that might be contaminated.

Therefore, while you are still at high risk if you are in the same school or the same classroom, you definitely are at an even higher risk if you sit next to them in a group.

If a person wants to minimize his chances of catching the virus and doesn’t want to be in close proximity of a Chinese person, it is big racist. It is simply being cautious and protecting yourself.

It would be racist only if the OP would refuse to sit next to a Chinese person but would have no problem sitting next to an American who just came back from China.

There is no stereotyping either. It is a fact that that the nCoV breakout happened in China and Chinese people are at a far, far greater risk of being carriers.

Hence, in this environment, it is perfectly understandable, reasonable and logical if people want to maintain a distance from them to be extra careful, since you never know if a person is a carrier or not.

What will you tell the OP if he ends up catching the virus because of one of the Chinese students in his group was a carrier?

Or what would the school tell his parents? His parents would have every right to ask the school if it was sensible to allow the Chinese and non-Chinese students to mingle these days?

Did the school screen these Chinese students and ensure that they are not carriers?

Remember - you can carry the virus inside you for many days before you start showing symptoms, so a Chinese person might seem perfectly normal and healthy when in fact he is a carrier.

The parents would not only be right in questioning the incompetence of the school, they would also question the OP for not being careful and not standing up for himself.

Whoever is calling the OP racist is being extremely irrational. We all need to be extra careful these days and avoid contact with Chinese people and avoid eating Chinese food, because you never know where the ingredients come from.

They could be contaminated.

This is not racism, this is common sense. You are protecting yourself.

Chinese people themselves should avoid contact with other Chinese people who have recently come from China.

If there is a family member he/she should be using separate utensils and sleeping alone.

If some relatives want to come over from China they shouldn’t, and if you want to go to China you shouldn’t either.

However, as I said earlier, if a person has no problem mingling with an American or an Indian who recently came from China and only has a problem with ethnic Chinese, then that’s racism.

I am quite appalled with the causal responses in this thread and the ease with which people are handing out racism cards. Looks like there are a lot of careless or potentially careless future parents here.

I would be livid if I had a son and the school would have grouped him with Chinese students these days.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You’re being an open racist bigot unfortunately even reading your other comments about Arab and Chinese students’ lack of ability etc and being bad group members. Be better

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Although I find it ironic that certain people in this thread calling him racist are blatant bigots

 

[minamino]

You’re being an open racist bigot unfortunately even reading your other comments about Arab and Chinese students’ lack of ability etc and being bad group members. Be better

Anyone who studies in UK universities would know this. The Arabs and Chinese who come here to non-RG universities are filthy rich and don't care about the degree at all. They would rather depend on non-Arab and Chinese people as well in group coursework and barely pass in other CWs.

 

[MenInG]

You’re being an open racist bigot unfortunately even reading your other comments about Arab and Chinese students’ lack of ability etc and being bad group members. Be better

This is an issue with people who dont live in the Middle-East - they tend to be have very set ideas about Arabs.

 

[DeadBall]

Although I find it ironic that certain people in this thread calling him racist are blatant bigots

You know something is afoot when even [MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] bhai is defending Asians and Black folk.

Yai din bhi dekhne thay.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Anyone who studies in UK universities would know this. The Arabs and Chinese who come here to non-RG universities are filthy rich and don't care about the degree at all. They would rather depend on non-Arab and Chinese people as well in group coursework and barely pass in other CWs.

I am studying abroad in Toronto as well but I don’t hold racist values. One would think that living in a multicultural area would make one more open minded

 

[DeadBall]

This is an issue with people who dont live in the Middle-East - they tend to be have very set ideas about Arabs.

Yeah but OP is actually an Emarati.

 

[minamino]

Yeah but OP is actually an Emarati.

What is Emarati?

 

[DeadBall]

What is Emarati?

People emanating from the UAE of course.

 

[Bigboii]

Anyone who studies in UK universities would know this. The Arabs and Chinese who come here to non-RG universities are filthy rich and don't care about the degree at all. They would rather depend on non-Arab and Chinese people as well in group coursework and barely pass in other CWs.

2nd that but Chinese who immigrated just a few years ago are not like that (some of the most hard working peopt) cause they are immigrants but unfortunately the people who come directly from China to study are lazy as you know what

 

[angrypathan]

You know something is afoot when even [MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] bhai is defending Asians and Black folk.

Yai din bhi dekhne thay.

I still can't believe my eyes

 

[imrankhannsu]

All parties are racist IMO apart from the Chinese students themselves.

 

[The_KING]

Lol at the snowflakes lefty liberals calling the OP racist. For them, everything is racist, sexist or homophobic.

The OP wasn’t being racist by refusing to work with the Chinese students. He was just being cautious. It’s funny how someone worrying about their health and well being is considered racist.

What a horrible world we live in.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Lol at the snowflakes lefty liberals calling the OP racist. For them, everything is racist, sexist or homophobic.

The OP wasn’t being racist by refusing to work with the Chinese students. He was just being cautious. It’s funny how someone worrying about their health and well being is considered racist.

What a horrible world we live in.

If the chinese students haven’t gone to China for years, how are they gonna get the virus?

 

[minamino]

If the chinese students haven’t gone to China for years, how are they gonna get the virus?

I know for a fact that most of the Chinese students went back to China and came back before the uni started again. I can differentiate between native Chinese and Chinese origin people.

 

[Tubs]

I can sympathise with you certainly. Even if they haven't been to China recently, they likely socialise with other Chinese students who might have. I go to a uni with many Chinese students, and they mainly hang out together. Regarding presentations, I also understand. Assuming you're in the UK, the English language requirements aren't very high, so some of the students may not have a great command of English. I have had an international student, who happened to be Chinese, in my group who couldn't understand a simple question during a Q&A session, I felt terrible for him, and the TA just had to move on after 2 minutes of trying to explain to question to him.

 

[minamino]

I can sympathise with you certainly. Even if they haven't been to China recently, they likely socialise with other Chinese students who might have. I go to a uni with many Chinese students, and they mainly hang out together. Regarding presentations, I also understand. Assuming you're in the UK, the English language requirements aren't very high, so some of the students may not have a great command of English. I have had an international student, who happened to be Chinese, in my group who couldn't understand a simple question during a Q&A session, I felt terrible for him, and the TA just had to move on after 2 minutes of trying to explain to question to him.

They have been to China most probably that too before 20th Jan. I have been able to change my group but that was on the grounds of competency rather than the virus.

 

[minamino]

So now the uni has requested people from 16 countries, all of them from Far East to stay indoors yet they expect me and other students to work with them.

 

[Realromeo]

I sympathize with you.

This is not racism, this is just being careful. Those Chinese students have a better chance of carrying the virus than non-Chinese students.

Does this apply to religion and terrorism ? See where this goes ? I think OP is being openly racist. Those 5 students picked each other because they are probably more comfortable with each other. Unlike, Indians and Pakistanis lots of Chinese students arrive in western countries for schooling with 0 English.

 

[Stewie]

This is such a racist thread, that most of you don’t realize it, barring the OP.
Lol

What’s the incubation period of corona virus? How long have these chinese students been in the UK or wherever it is you are? Were they in China fairly recently? Any of them showing signs of illness?

 

[DeadBall]

I was watching IP Man 4 The Finale today and when I saw Donnie Yen coughing in a plane, I was like omg Coronavirus. Took me a full minute to compose myself and realize that this was a movie based upon the chapter in the life of Bruce Lee's mentor in the 1960s.

 

[the Great Khan]

Sorry but your being racist. The coronavirus is quite a specific kind of virus and only those who have been in contact with it would probably be infected. Not all chinese are from Wuhan and many parts of China are virus free. How do you know they are all from the same part of China? were they in wuhan this year? did you bother to find out or did you just make a decision based on where they are from? if that is the case you are discriminating against them and being racist. i suggest you look in the mirror.

 

[Mamoon]

Does this apply to religion and terrorism ? See where this goes ? I think OP is being openly racist. Those 5 students picked each other because they are probably more comfortable with each other. Unlike, Indians and Pakistanis lots of Chinese students arrive in western countries for schooling with 0 English.

I don’t have anything further to add here apart from what I have said already.

I have covered each and every aspect, so please read all my posts in this thread if you have the time.