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Who should be Pakistan's next batting coach?

Ifu Hussain

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It's very unlikely that the PCB would extend the contract of Grant Flower.... In that case, the PCB would be looking for a new Batting Coach.... So give your suggestions guys.... But please be realistic regarding your suggestions keeping in mind that the coach you suggest should be affordable for the PCB and keeping in view the 2019 World Cup to be held in England.
My suggestions:-
Mohd. Yousuf
Kumara Sangakara
Michael Hussey
 
Would love to go with salim malik hes street smart not only he will teach the boys a thing or two about batting but can help sarfraz with captancy also.
 
Would love to go with salim malik hes street smart not only he will teach the boys a thing or two about batting but can help sarfraz with captancy also.

Salim Maliq did come to my mind.... But I guess the match fixing allegations against him would deny him any such post in the National Team.
 
That's an awesome suggestion.... Not only will it be beneficial for our batsmen but it would also help our team tactically, especially Sarfaraz, as Ponting was a fantastic leader ...
 
Someone foreign. Getting a Pakistani will only lead to more politics.
 
why can't inzi do it? as chief selector he will pick batsmen who he wants to coach and sees potential in
 
You guys miss the point

A batting coach doesn't need to be someone who averaged 45+ and Played 100 Tests,Infact some guys are good at picking out mistakes,Friendly,Give players guidance

If you pick say A legend Batsman they will teach the team how they used to bat and as we all know you cannot copy someone in batting maybe bowling but not batting as batting is much more complex and it is meant to suit that individual,Some great players arnt as good as helping or they don't pick out mistakes.

Grant flower was doing a good job and has mixed well with the boys,Azhar wasn't a great bowler but look how he is literally made Hassan Ali,Waqar Younis couldn't do that even with proven players,So it depends on how you coach,it's not about how good a coach can play,it's how he can help, which PPs don't seem to understand
 
I agree to your point bro.... Almost every batsman was happy with Grant Flower.... But as per reports, he's unlikely to be given extension.... But it's necessary that whosoever is brought in should produce results.... I guess the Pakistani batsmen have enough talent and skills to score 330 on consistent basis, be it batting first or chasing....
 
If grants contract is expiring,kindly give him an offer for an extension with bonuses or you can pick Another batting coach if he doesn't accept it as I feel at this moment Grant is the best choice.
 
If grants contract is expiring,kindly give him an offer for an extension with bonuses or you can pick Another batting coach if he doesn't accept it as I feel at this moment Grant is the best choice.

I don't think Grant would mind an extension, the PCB is looking to part ways with him.
 
Why do people think a great batsman would make a great coach?

Coaching requires knowledge of the techniques of course. But just as important is communication, patience, understanding, ability to relate to people, drive, passion, determination, personality.

Does moyo posses these traits?

I don't think so.
 
Ponting has also never coached and seems devoid of drive and personality.

Kumar Sangakarra would bemy choice. Intelligent guy. Has a personality.
 
Ponting has also never coached and seems devoid of drive and personality.

Kumar Sangakarra would bemy choice. Intelligent guy. Has a personality.
Ponting's been a member of the coaching staff for the Mumbai Indians and the Australian T20 team.
 
Ponting's been a member of the coaching staff for the Mumbai Indians and the Australian T20 team.

Don't think pointing will ever coach Pakistan,Because he lacks the passion for our cricket.

In the champions Trophy punter forgot their was a team called Pakistan competing.
 
As long as Mr Malik is a permanent member of our team, Moyo doesnt stand a chance.

Would love to have Sangakarra but listening in to his recent interviews about the 2009 incidents, i doubt he would be crazy about this role. Ponting another possibility but don't see him slotting in either.

Why cant we have an Indian batter as a batting coach? Indians use the Pakistani legend pacemen of the past , why cant we use one of theirs? We dont even need legends, someone like Akaash chopra can be good enough. What do you guys think?
 
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Ajay Jadega. This guy knows what he is talking about and street smart like Sarfraz Ahmed...
 
PAK should hire Aussie batting coach. More than technical adjustment, batsmen need to toughen mentally & be aggressive. Systematic induction of fear has taken the flair out of PAK batting - need a coach who should restore the confidence among batsmen - more importantly, someone who would back batsmen after getting out for an aggressive shot (if the shot was on merit - Afridi style isn't batting actually). Besides, Aussies won't tolerate playing selfishly & they'll call spade a spade.

Jaime Siddons is obviously my first choice - I would love to have him as our coach again. Apart from him, probably the best was Greg, but he is almost 70 now. Shipperd, Langer, Hussey, Marsh are very good choices - but, if not Siddons, I probably will pick Greg Shipperd. He was instrumental in developing one batsman - Rickey Ponting.
 
Langer.... Good choice..... Another worthy appointment would be Dean Jones.... Great cricketing knowledge but I doubt him taking the role of Batting Coach as he wanted to be the Head Coach of the Pakistan Team
 
You guys miss the point

A batting coach doesn't need to be someone who averaged 45+ and Played 100 Tests,Infact some guys are good at picking out mistakes,Friendly,Give players guidance

If you pick say A legend Batsman they will teach the team how they used to bat and as we all know you cannot copy someone in batting maybe bowling but not batting as batting is much more complex and it is meant to suit that individual,Some great players arnt as good as helping or they don't pick out mistakes.

Grant flower was doing a good job and has mixed well with the boys,Azhar wasn't a great bowler but look how he is literally made Hassan Ali,Waqar Younis couldn't do that even with proven players,So it depends on how you coach,it's not about how good a coach can play,it's how he can help, which PPs don't seem to understand

If grants contract is expiring,kindly give him an offer for an extension with bonuses or you can pick Another batting coach if he doesn't accept it as I feel at this moment Grant is the best choice.

I agree Grant is the best choice at the moment.. If grant is not available then need to find someone who are good at picking out mistakes,friendly,give players guidance just like grant did..Also a big name guy might be a bit too hard to mingle with the team and the supporting staff... Big names demand big pay cheques for their name and fame but how effective they are will be unknown..

Keeping what i said above in mind the coaches that i can think of are

Trent Woodhill, Simon Helmet, Trevor Penney, Chris Adams, Graham Thorpe, Graeme Hick.
 
Pointing will be ideal choice but i dont think he will risk his IPl contract for full time pakistani batting coach and that so under Arthur whose relation with Aussies arent good anyways. My choice will be either Mahela or Sangakara
 
Our batting is getting better in both tests and LOI. Think Grant's doing a good job. Guys new to the team are improving which is a good sign of coaching working. Difficult to change guys who are already set in their ways, not coach's fault. He showed good results in tests, and now we're starting to see improvements in LOI. And he's not a sit back kind of coach either from player responses, actually puts effort into helping them, and players are complimentary. Also seen an improvement in the batting of the tailenders, which in part is probably down to his efforts.

Tbh there aren't many candidates who stand out. A lot of the names floated around wouldn't even take the role, or have very little to do with coaching. Langer is a good one, but think he's currently busy in the Australian set up.

Sangakaara and Ponting are more into commentary I think. Plus Grant's got a lot more experience than them.

Dean Jones is a possibility, eager to be part of the Pakistani set up, experienced success with Islamabad PSL 1, and seems to have a decent eye for talent as evidenced by Sharjeel. No secret though he wants the main gig in Pakistan coach though.

I'd rather keep Grant as coach. Bet the selectors are taking credit for the victory, but most of them bar Zaman are pretty much the same batsmen as before. They've just happened to have been doing better lately.
 
Think Yousuf would be an excellent coach if he wanted to be. Looks like he understands batting, and himself pretty much a textbook master of it.

But his statements haven't been too great, come across a bit whingey and in poor taste. Now Misbah's gone perhaps he could work within the set up. Though obviously grant has more coaching experience, and experience in conditions which our batsmen struggle in more.
 
I definitely agree to everyone who feels that Grant has done a decent job.... Personally I feel that being with the team for nearly 3 years, he must know most of the batsmen inside out.... Whosoever replaces him will take time to know about the flaws of various batsmen, which Grant as of now must be fully aware about.... So wish that his contract is given an extension until the 2019 World Cup..... Moreover almost every batsman is satisfied with Grant so far.... Need more replies from u guys.... Waiting for your replies...
 
Our batting is getting better in both tests and LOI. Think Grant's doing a good job. Guys new to the team are improving which is a good sign of coaching working. Difficult to change guys who are already set in their ways, not coach's fault. He showed good results in tests, and now we're starting to see improvements in LOI. And he's not a sit back kind of coach either from player responses, actually puts effort into helping them, and players are complimentary. Also seen an improvement in the batting of the tailenders, which in part is probably down to his efforts.

Tbh there aren't many candidates who stand out. A lot of the names floated around wouldn't even take the role, or have very little to do with coaching. Langer is a good one, but think he's currently busy in the Australian set up.

Sangakaara and Ponting are more into commentary I think. Plus Grant's got a lot more experience than them.

Dean Jones is a possibility, eager to be part of the Pakistani set up, experienced success with Islamabad PSL 1, and seems to have a decent eye for talent as evidenced by Sharjeel. No secret though he wants the main gig in Pakistan coach though.

I'd rather keep Grant as coach. Bet the selectors are taking credit for the victory, but most of them bar Zaman are pretty much the same batsmen as before. They've just happened to have been doing better lately.

Don' change what is not manifestly broken. We have recently been no 1 in Tests, just on won the CT, and now feel it is time to change coaches?
 
An Australian is needed as a batting coach to pamper this new found aggression in the Pak team.
Justin Langer is quite knowledgeable as far as the batting nuances are concerned and his reputation is going up quite quickly. Beside that he himself achieved a lot in the international cricket through his compact technique which means he can give what is necessary to become a champion batsman to those who have talent. If not him then Dean Jones or Mike Hussey.
That will also prepare batsmen mentally for doing well in Australia and SA where Pak hasn't done too well in the past.
 
You missed a point 54 FC hundreds in the only condition that he ever knew and a failure otherwise. Could be considered as Pak U13 coach since he plays with a smile on his face as you said.

I don't where you're from but on sky sports watch his batting analysis in the zone. Knows all about batting.
 
I don't where you're from but on sky sports watch his batting analysis in the zone. Knows all about batting.

Does he have any coaching experience? Plus, as much as I like Rob Key he was mentally weak as a batsmen so I don't think he would be a good pick. There are far better options out there.
 
Someone who wasn't a legend of the game but instead had to work hard on every single technical aspect to perform at the highest level. Someone like a Sachin or a Wasim can never be a good coach in my opinion because the simple basics of cricket came naturally to them and they just had to fine tune it as they went along (if it didn't come naturally they wouldn't be legends). Meanwhile someone like a Dravid or a Younis Khan would make for an excellent coach. They weren't naturally supremely talented and hence had to think about and work on every single aspect of their game to reach the stature that they achieved.

If Yuni is ready and willing then he should be our next batting coach in a year or two.
 
Does he have any coaching experience? Plus, as much as I like Rob Key he was mentally weak as a batsmen so I don't think he would be a good pick. There are far better options out there.

Exactly the thing.
When one participates on a forum then he should realise that he is making a point which has some logical reasons in it. One can not write just to be different in an unimpressive manner.
 
Anyone who is not pakistani..
I think PCB should allow Mickey to chose his choice of batting coach, if not possible continue with Grant.
Don't want team to get into politics kindda scenario with the domestic coach or player
 
I don't where you're from but on sky sports watch his batting analysis in the zone. Knows all about batting.

He explains batting strategy very well - that's his situational analysis, something someone like Tony Cozier did fantastically without hitting a single FC hundred. But is Key good enough, say to find the weakness of Babar - why he struggles against spin & then find a solution (practice method) to overcome that at nets?

I have seen every English coach is very good on batting techniques by book, but not sure if they are the best to coach International players, who should be already beyond batting fundamentals. Most of the English players are technically good & excellent to watch (none more than Ian Bell), therefore an English batting coach for U16 or U19 team is probably the best option, but, for national team, not sure.
 
Hard work, technique, ability, eye for talent, no ego, same language, and a true mentor. Dravid has everything except that he is from India. Dont see PCB ever approaching and him ever accepting because of the relations b/w the 2 countries.
 
dravid is already booked and will never work for pakistan. langer - gary - yousuf. one of 3 would be good.
 
Stephen Fleming won't be a bad choice either.
He was a good batsman at the international level and as far as coaching experience is concerned, he has been with the Chennai SuperKings/Pune Super Giants as the coach/mentor

http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/37000.html

Add to that he has been controversy free for most of his career and doesn't seem to be one who will have major ego clashes with the players or other support staff.

If not for Pakistan's batting coach this guy should be approached to be the head coach of Multan's franchise for the PSL.

Do you guys see having any negatives with respect to Stephen Fleming becoming the batting coach and will he accept the offer to coach Pakistan?
 
Who ever it will be, they must be harsh - discipline is needed. Someone like langer or hayden.

Someone above said gilcrisht - in s. Warne eyes he was a complete yes man to anyone above him
 
Stephen Fleming won't be a bad choice either.
He was a good batsman at the international level and as far as coaching experience is concerned, he has been with the Chennai SuperKings/Pune Super Giants as the coach/mentor

http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/37000.html

Add to that he has been controversy free for most of his career and doesn't seem to be one who will have major ego clashes with the players or other support staff.

If not for Pakistan's batting coach this guy should be approached to be the head coach of Multan's franchise for the PSL.

Do you guys see having any negatives with respect to Stephen Fleming becoming the batting coach and will he accept the offer to coach Pakistan?

He is nice but still a Kiwi. Pak need an aggressive yet knowledgeable coach so a Kangaroo would be the best option.
 
Mahela Jayawardene would be a good option. He is coaching a BPL team right now as well.
 
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