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Who'll be the next batter to equal or surpass Virat Kohli (in all 3 formats)?

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Virat Kohli is already the greatest batsmen of this decade.:vk He's few things to achieve as a captain(winning a WC or 2:sarf) but, as a batsman he's achieved to be right up there with the greats.:salute

But who's going to equal or surpass Virat Kohli?:shezzy

Root is just not impactful in LOIs, can't score big in tests. Williamson and Smith have the same problem, being impact less in LOIs.:ssmith

I don't buy the options of Rahul or Fakhar either. They're already 27 and, a batsman has to be a run machine, with impact (in all 3 formats) atleast for 5 years to come anywhere near him. Rahul is not even a regular in LOIs at 27 and Fakhar hasn't even debuted in Tests.:sanga


For a batsman to come near Kohli, a batsman has to be 25 or younger:babar:shh:shh:shh:uak
 
babajee said:
Babar Azam.
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Not saying he can't but he needs to get to the next level. Now he's just a first choice member of playing 11.

Fakhar has had more impact in just one year than Babar whose runs were just for stats. 6 centuries out of 7 against minnows and, one against Aus was a match losing and a selfish one. Yes, he can improve tho.

The upcoming WC will be a good test to see where he stands.

Most importantly, "The Tests" are where he needs to improve.
 
No one from the current lot of players, that's what it looks as of now.
 
No one for at least 30-40 years. Kohli is the most complete batsman of all time.
 
No one. Of the current batch no other player. Maybe Smith, but VK is on another level.

But if there is one, I want him to be Pakistani :)
 
Nobody. Kohli is the undisputed batsman of the decade. We will only realize what a freak he is after he retires. Avg of 58 after 200 ODIs is almost unbelievable.
 
No current batsman has Kohli's versatility. AB came the closest but he's retired now.
 
I don't think KL Rahul is a future legendary player that people are making him out to be but I have a feeling Shubman Gill would become an Indian batting superstar.
 
bhai let him set the benchmark first

This is just little over a half way.
 
Perhaps Prithvi Shaw.

But a part of me feel that we won't see a better LOI batsman than Kohli for the next 25 years.
 
No one currently playing. He's the best in modern cricket and second best is too far out to even be considered in the same league.

He's in his own league. He's talented but no one in the world of cricket has his work ethics. He's the hardest working player even at his level, he doesn't just show up ever. He's there to win every time.

You need that to be where he is. No one else has that in them.

Wish we had even half of a batsman of his caliber in Team Pakiatan.
 
PP should implement a rule regarding the max numbers of smileys you can have in a post.




On topic, I think Smith is right up there with Kohli as one of the best in this decade and you never know he might even surpass him by the time they both end their careers. Can't say anything at the moment.



As for someone being better than both than as per some PP'ers KL Rahul is already better, just ignore his scores and performance :afridi
 
Hmm , he is good but seems to be tad bit overrated on PP considering his career can go in any direction afterhe turns 30.
 
My bet is on Gill. Only one player who has similar dedication. Heard that he would play like 500 balls every day when he was a kid. He is also a fairly ground stroke player like Kohli so it is pretty risk free.
 
I wouldn't call them contenders, but my mind goes to Babar Azam and Kusal Mendis. I was gonna add Aiden Markram but OP said all 3 formats (Aiden hasn't played a T20I).
 
Not in this current generation of players (espacially from Asia). No one has the ability to do what Virat is doing atm in all 3 format. He is successful not only for his talent, but for his work ethics aswell.
 
Kohli said:
Virat Kohli is already the greatest batsmen of this decade.:vk He's few things to achieve as a captain(winning a WC or 2:sarf) but, as a batsman he's achieved to be right up there with the greats.:salute

But who's going to equal or surpass Virat Kohli?:shezzy

Root is just not impactful in LOIs, can't score big in tests. Williamson and Smith have the same problem, being impact less in LOIs.:ssmith

I don't buy the options of Rahul or Fakhar either. They're already 27 and, a batsman has to be a run machine, with impact (in all 3 formats) atleast for 5 years to come anywhere near him. Rahul is not even a regular in LOIs at 27 and Fakhar hasn't even debuted in Tests.:sanga


For a batsman to come near Kohli, a batsman has to be 25 or younger:babar:shh:shh:shh:uak
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Kohli doesn't top the test run scoring charts this decade. He does not have the highest average either. Is he the most skilled then? I believe the best of the four horsemen is Williamson, who actually bats at 3 and scores run, with sublime innings coming against SA, Eng and Aus.

In ODIs, he has not surpassed AB and is maybe on par with Amla but of the current four, he is possibly the best but unlike Ponting/Tendulkar in the previous decade, he does not stand head and shoulders above the rest.

In T20s he is by far the best but that is the lowest of all the formats.
 
No one in international cricket right now. If there might be one, it will be from India. They have an exceptional batting culture right from school level up to the highest level.

Prithvi Shaw seems the be the next darling of Indian cricket but it remains to be seen how Prithvi handles pressures and different match situations which Kohli so masterly revels in.
 
Steve Smith should end as better batsman then Kohli.

Already helped his team win a World Cup by playing important innings in quarter , semi and final of World Cup. I remember how Watson was dancing against Wahab and how calmly Smith was playing that hostile spell in a clutch knockout match.

In tests he is the undisputed king.

T20s don't define your legacy except for maybe winning a World T20.

Will be a good battle between Kohli and Smith. Others are behind them.
 
Would like to know opinions of @Proactive, [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], [MENTION=139867]dauntless[/MENTION].
 
The fact is that india's best batsman vs Australia's best batsman has always been a tough competition, but india has always been the winner
SRT-PONTING
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And now to take the legacy ahead kohli is ahead of smith ATM. No amount of trash talks about performing only in world cup will help(munaf patel>waqar) . Kohli is a countrymile ahead of smith in odis.
 
barah_admi said:
Kohli doesn't top the test run scoring charts this decade. He does not have the highest average either. Is he the most skilled then? I believe the best of the four horsemen is Williamson, who actually bats at 3 and scores run, with sublime innings coming against SA, Eng and Aus.

In ODIs, he has not surpassed AB and is maybe on par with Amla but of the current four, he is possibly the best but unlike Ponting/Tendulkar in the previous decade, he does not stand head and shoulders above the rest.

In T20s he is by far the best but that is the lowest of all the formats.
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Why is kohli not head and shoulders above the rest in odis?
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
The fact is that india's best batsman vs Australia's best batsman has always been a tough competition, but india has always been the winner
SRT-PONTING
Gavaskar - border
Kohli-smith
And now to take the legacy ahead kohli is ahead of smith ATM. No amount of trash talks about performing only in world cup will help(munaf patel>waqar) . Kohli is a countrymile ahead of smith in odis.
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If talking about WCs, then Raina>>>Lara too, lol.
 
Prithvi Shaw?

The is 18 but has attitude like Sachin had during his 16. He's only really faced international class bowling in IPL so far but the courage and attitude he's shown gives me hope that he'll take the mantle from Kohli.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Why is kohli not head and shoulders above the rest in odis?
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Because AB was better, he could hit the ball harder and score in a more varied way than Kohli. Amla was in his prime just as good if not better and had to play against the new ball more often than not.

When Ponting and Tendulkar were doing their thing, no one was better or even close, not even Lara, Inzy, Hayden or Gilly, the other best ODI batsman of that time.
 
barah_admi said:
Because AB was better, he could hit the ball harder and score in a more varied way than Kohli. Amla was in his prime just as good if not better and had to play against the new ball more often than not.

When Ponting and Tendulkar were doing their thing, no one was better or even close, not even Lara, Inzy, Hayden or Gilly, the other best ODI batsman of that time.
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Funny how hate can u make write so many things which even you mayself consider true.
Amla has been a great opener definitely in odis no diubt but he is nowhere the class of kohli and 90 percent of people except for the most delusional posters.
As for ab no doubt he in prime as was a good as a player there has been in the history of game. However kohli prime form has been after the rough patch he hit after 2015 wc. He has been literally unstoppable since than and conquered almost every obstacle. All that is left for him to be the goat is one outstanding wc and while currently ab may be considered his equal by some fans he can not get ahead of kohli now while kohli can.
As far as amla is concerned he is not even in top 10 odi greats let alone challenge kohli who is certified top 3/5 player.
 
I think it be a windies boy I think watching them I’m very impressed and if we get one with a kohli work ethic he’ll do it.
 
Doubt anyone from the current era can reach him. What Kohli is doing right now is simply phenomenal, players like him don't come along too often.
 
"Daniel Lawrence" from England will be next star batsman. his wrist work is amazing.
 
Kohli is in league of Viv, SRT, Lara and Ponting.

So, obviously, it will take a while for anyone to get there, let alone surpass him. AB was once in a generation talent and a very unique cricketer but unfortunately, he underachieved and no one in their right mind would even put him close to Jacques Kallis, let alone that trio. Others are quite behind, although the judgement is yet to be made on Steven Smith.
 
barah_admi said:
Kohli doesn't top the test run scoring charts this decade. He does not have the highest average either. Is he the most skilled then? I believe the best of the four horsemen is Williamson, who actually bats at 3 and scores run, with sublime innings coming against SA, Eng and Aus.

In ODIs, he has not surpassed AB and is maybe on par with Amla but of the current four, he is possibly the best but unlike Ponting/Tendulkar in the previous decade, he does not stand head and shoulders above the rest.

In T20s he is by far the best but that is the lowest of all the formats.
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Lol.

There are many things funny in life, but nothing is funnier than overrating Hashim Amla to the point where he becomes as good as Kohli as an ODI player.

Amla is the least impactful player in ODI's the world has ever seen.

Huge average but disappointingly average.
 
Even in bilaterals if you tell Amla that it is KO, he will fail under pressure.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Lol.

There are many things funny in life, but nothing is funnier than overrating Hashim Amla to the point where he becomes as good as Kohli as an ODI player.

Amla is the least impactful player in ODI's the world has ever seen.

Huge average but disappointingly average.
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Statistically Rohit sharma looks like a great ODI player , Amla is a poorer version of him ..All these openers have inflated their stats .
 
It would be hard for anyone to replicate Kohli when we talk about all 3 formats combined.

In ODIs, Some great batsmen are copybook style who set up a game by playing long innings and then others come to finish it. These batsmen average quite high. Some other great batsmen are the ones who dont average very high but are flamboyant, aggressive and perform in pressure situations when others need somebody to stand up. Kohli is doing both and doing it better than anyone else. His game is so tight and compact, its incredible.

In tests he is very good but to be honest, there are players who are at par with him. He is still one of the best.

In t20s he is the best again. Plays perfectly as per situation.
 
Madplayer said:
In tests he is very good but to be honest, there are players who are at par with him. He is still one of the best.
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Care to name them?

Obvious one would be Smith. But who else apart from him?

Root & Williamson can’t be that. Markram just had a horrendous SL series. Nobody from Pakistan or WI or SL is anywhere near him. Then who else is left?
 
Kohli work ethics are far greater than any other Batsman, he may not be most talented around , but most determined one.
 
MP2011 said:
Care to name them?

Obvious one would be Smith. But who else apart from him?

Root & Williamson can’t be that. Markram just had a horrendous SL series. Nobody from Pakistan or WI or SL is anywhere near him. Then who else is left?
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They only exist in his imagination.
 
MP2011 said:
Care to name them?

Obvious one would be Smith. But who else apart from him?

Root & Williamson can’t be that. Markram just had a horrendous SL series. Nobody from Pakistan or WI or SL is anywhere near him. Then who else is left?
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Smith is (was) better than Kohli is tests. Root and williamson are not better than Kohli but lets be fair to them, they have had patches where they put in comparable performances over sustained periods ( hence the term "Fab 4" coined by cricket pundits). What i was saying is that in ODIs and t20s, Kohli is untouchable. In tests, there are people who have challenged him or in other words the gap between him and others isnt as big as in other formats.
 
Don't think so.

India will produce greats in form of Pant, Gill and Shaw but don't think they will reach the levels of Kohli and Tendulkar.
 
Still none.

Smith, Williamson, Root and Warner all of them are entering in ending phase of their respective peaks. Smith is a better test bat than him but overall VK is ahead.

Babar is eons ahead of his generation (Labu, SL/WI batters and plethora of Indian IPLers) but VK is still better than Babar.

Let's wait 6 more years to see how high Babar's actual peak is and how VK copes with eventual decline!
 
Kohli will remain the best of this era , his stats and impact while chasing are exceptional.
 
shamaan said:
Do you think he can reach the 100 centuries mark
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Will be very, very difficult. With the type of form he was in 2 years ago, he would have crossed 80 centuries by now if he didn't have a slump in form.
 
Difficult in the normal course of a cricketing career which stops at 35 years of age or thereabouts.
but Kohli is supremely fit so his career might well on for further 5 years. If he can regain his form in coming year then it will be done
 
Few names mentioned 4 years back were

KL Rahul
P Shaw
S Gill
B Azam
De Kock

Looks like apart from Babar a little bit no one has made a name for himself yet (in all 3 formats).

Having said that, Kohli himself needs to become Kohli (of old)
 
Babar has surpassed him.

I think Babar can finish higher than Kohli by the time both are retired.
 
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