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"Why 40 lakh for Wasim Khan? Myself, Imran Nazir will fix domestic cricket for free" : Tanvir Ahmed

Sports show on Metro News:

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Ok what are your credentials Tanvir Ahmed?
 
Why didnt he say this before wasim was appointed? All these years he kept quiet and now suddenly his sense of duty has awakened.
 
It was disgusting seeing the tv show host agreeing with this guy in bad mouthing Wasim Khan. Funny how they have a problem with Wasim's pay rate. If you want top talent you have to dish out big money. Why do large organizations give millions to their CEOs? Why not just get a new college graduate on unpaid internship as their CEO. I'm sure he will more than willingly take up that zero pay job for experience.
 
The PCB old timers knew what they were doing when they released the amount Wasim Khan was getting. They lit the blue touch paper and sat back with a cigar, knowing full well that the jealousy and envy of the uneducated amongst us would tear at Wasim like a rabid dog.
 
Lol, this is the same guy who said Inzamam was so desperate to work in the PCB, he would even accept a toilet job. Tanvir Ahmed disgusts me, for someone who has very little achievements in life, he talks too much and is very disrespectful to people in general and has an inflated opinion of himself. This is the type of guy who Miandad should take to the cleaners.
 
This joker got put in his place by a journalist on live TV just recently on his unsubstantiated hate for Imam-ul-haq. Was funny to see him changing his statements every other second :))
 
Lmao

What a disgrace this guy is, could have done much better things rather than being a TV expert on Cricket bcz he absolutely sucks at it :facepalm
 
tanveer ahmed is a complete joke, i don't how he can get on television, he lacks basic manners and how to speak to people or about anything in a respectable manner. he thinks he is making fun of others, but the jokes on him, as he is the one humiliating himself by showing what an illiterate, ill-mannered, idiot he is.
 
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I wonder why these former players did not make an effort to sort out the domestic system out then...
 
another 'expert' on television just like him, is "siku bhi" sikander bakht both have no self-respect, lack education and basic decency
 
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Tanvir was good for the short while he played for Pakistan and he was only axed because age was not on his side. Thats it. It was not due to performance or anything

Once again posters who know zilch about the game throwing their two cents. Sigh.
 
This guy is an example of the typical ex Pakistani cricketers who think they’re god gift to the nation (not all but majority ) & will bring out the magic wand to change the a cricket infrastructure in the country for the better & do it all for FREE 👉🏽 PMSL 😂😂🤦🏽*♂️
Would love to see some1 hold these 2 guys to their words..
 
Baatain karwaa lo bas.

Javed Miandad and Abdul Qadir all talked a lot about the domestic circuit but did jack when they were in the PCB
 
Tanvir was good for the short while he played for Pakistan and he was only axed because age was not on his side. Thats it. It was not due to performance or anything

Once again posters who know zilch about the game throwing their two cents. Sigh.

nothing to do with his credentials as a cricketer, the topic is his silly & well hilarious comments tbh
 
These people are still stuck in the 1990's where they think international cricketers should be the only ones who have a say in cricket.
 
Is it 40 Lakh per month?

Should be per week!!!! 4.0 million PKR is like $26K (unless it's devalued even more by now from 1:151), that's around $312K/years. If I take it around 60% of cost to company (PCB's total expense for him including other benefits, but no office facilities like office room, lap top, ticket fair for on job travelling... etc) is like $500K/year for Wasim Khan at PCB's expense account. I am sure, someone with his profile should get more than that just from managing a County Team's Office.
 
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Hoping this fires up Wasim Khan and shuts these people up. Badly need Khan to deliver or it will be shambles. Pak cricket is going down the hill and need someone competent to rescue the ship. Khan should be given a total free hand to implement his vision.
 
Hoping this fires up Wasim Khan and shuts these people up. Badly need Khan to deliver or it will be shambles. Pak cricket is going down the hill and need someone competent to rescue the ship. Khan should be given a total free hand to implement his vision.

I doubt he is bothered by what people say on TV shows. Plenty of people are looking for their 2 minutes of fame with outrageous statements like this one.

The BoG episode could have been an issue, but for now it looks like it's being dealt with.
 
is this bad mouth qualified enough even to sit with Wasim Khan ?
 
Unfortunately theres plenty of these sort of uneducated domestic players willing to be controversial for the sake of a few bucks on gutter tv shows like this
 
He was a good player when he played for us in 2010/11. However he has turned into a clown since then
 
Former PAK players are only good enough to create youtube channels/ sit on tv and talk no sense 24/7.

What have all these former cricketers done for the beatiful game in PAK? nothing, 0 %!
 
Just talk and nothing on their CV. Nasir Hussain and few English players have high regards for Wasim Khan.
 
Whilst I disagree with the opinion of these clowns as they are clearly spewing hate, they do make a valid point in regards to the serious money that is being dished out on one individual as a first contract.

40 lakhs a month as managing director for an 8th ranked side that doesn’t even play in the country?? That’s approximately £22k a month.
 
Whilst I disagree with the opinion of these clowns as they are clearly spewing hate, they do make a valid point in regards to the serious money that is being dished out on one individual as a first contract.

40 lakhs a month as managing director for an 8th ranked side that doesn’t even play in the country?? That’s approximately £22k a month.

Im sure ive read wasim khan would be making a lot more with a county in the uk

You get what you pay for

If there was a pakistani that was equivalently qualified im sure pcb wouldve offered him the job
 
Who is Tanvir Ahmed? I don’t remember him even playing for Pakistan.

Imran Nazir has the intelligence and attention span of a goldfish.

And these two no name idiots will fix Pakistan cricket...
 
Tanvir Ahmed speaks way too much for some reason
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.

If critics and journalists wouldn't keep discussing his salary, he wouldn't have to keep pointing out that he could have earned a lot more in England.
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.

A very good post.!
Pcb paying £300k a year to to any employee is ridiculousThats about twice what the british prime minister earns. I'm sure there must be a qualified pakistani who could do this work for a fraction of the price.
 
Still remember this man when he was screaming like Maria Sharapova while bowling 128kph.
Anyway he is a geo super material and this is what expected from geo super's expert.
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.

Yawn. You have a fetish to complain and criticize. PCB has tried internal employees and local Pakistani employees for a good 70 plus years. It is time to try something different. Besides Wasim Khan is the one who approached Ehsan Mani over a cup of coffee in London and expressed his interest in working for the PCB.

He has a very good resume and has turned around an English County that was in tatters when he took over. Besides one of the reasons why the PCB hired him is to make optimal use of his reputation, contacts and clout in English Cricket and that is how the plans of these exchange programs for Umpires, Curators, A tours, U-16 to U-19 tours will happen. He has also been hired to improve PCB's revenues and convince international teams to tour Pakistan.
 
Whilst I disagree with the opinion of these clowns as they are clearly spewing hate, they do make a valid point in regards to the serious money that is being dished out on one individual as a first contract.

40 lakhs a month as managing director for an 8th ranked side that doesn’t even play in the country?? That’s approximately £22k a month.

PCB is worth billions of ruppees. You will be shocked to see how much CEO's of Big MNC corporations get paid in millions of dollars and pounds. If the PCB can dish out Rs 1.5 million for Miandad for 6 longs years, if it can dish out Rs 1.5 million per month for Inzamam, it can afford Rs 4 million on Wasim Khan
 
Sorry my phone keeps playing up!
Pcb is not a multi national company and should live within its means. I have read pcb employs hundreds of people, i dont know if that is true but if it is - why? Surely, there must be someone in pak qualified to do this job and at a fraction of the salary. Just makes me angry when you read how little some domestic cricketers earn and how little is invested in the domestic cricket infrastructure.
 
Sorry my phone keeps playing up!
Pcb is not a multi national company and should live within its means. I have read pcb employs hundreds of people, i dont know if that is true but if it is - why? Surely, there must be someone in pak qualified to do this job and at a fraction of the salary. Just makes me angry when you read how little some domestic cricketers earn and how little is invested in the domestic cricket infrastructure.

Someone in Pakistan does not have the international and UK contacts and experience that Wasim Khan has. He is not being paid for nothing, he will have to perform or be shown the door. The things he is promising to do for Pakistan Cricket is priceless and worth 100 times more than the salary he is being paid. Its not like the PCB cannot afford to pay him comfortably.
 
Yawn. You have a fetish to complain and criticize. PCB has tried internal employees and local Pakistani employees for a good 70 plus years. It is time to try something different. Besides Wasim Khan is the one who approached Ehsan Mani over a cup of coffee in London and expressed his interest in working for the PCB.

He has a very good resume and has turned around an English County that was in tatters when he took over. Besides one of the reasons why the PCB hired him is to make optimal use of his reputation, contacts and clout in English Cricket and that is how the plans of these exchange programs for Umpires, Curators, A tours, U-16 to U-19 tours will happen. He has also been hired to improve PCB's revenues and convince international teams to tour Pakistan.
Wrong.

Khan said in his interview where he outlined the future domestic system policies that Mani was the one who called Khan and requested him to apply for the MD role. Khan also expressed prior to that call he had never met Mani.
 
Wrong.

Khan said in his interview where he outlined the future domestic system policies that Mani was the one who called Khan and requested him to apply for the MD role. Khan also expressed prior to that call he had never met Mani.

I read on cricinfo that the PCB had advertised for the MD role on its website and Wasim Khan then reached out to Ehsan Mani and met him over a cup of coffee to discuss his interest in the role.
 
Wrong.

Khan said in his interview where he outlined the future domestic system policies that Mani was the one who called Khan and requested him to apply for the MD role. Khan also expressed prior to that call he had never met Mani.

According to that article, Wasim sent a congradulatory email to Ehsan Mani when the later was appointed the PCB Chairman in Sept 2018 and immediately offered his services to the PCB as MD and then the two met in London over coffee to discuss in further detail. His wife has given up her job in the UK and the entire family has relocated. His English package was worth more than the current Pakistani package and he had reached the second round of interviews with the ECB for Andrew Strauss's position in the ECB and they were dissapointed to lose him out to the PCB.
 
Pakistan is full of 'wallet watchers' who have an issue with professionals getting paid to do their job.
 
Pakistan is full of 'wallet watchers' who have an issue with professionals getting paid to do their job.

Lol Yes, they lack the ability to think of the bigger picture, All they see is a guy being paid Rs 4,000,000 a month but are completely forgetting that he is not getting it for free, he is expected to deliver big results and to justify that paycheque. His pay and package with the ECB would have been a lot higher.

To expect him to relocate with his wife and kids to Pakistan at a pay of Rs 500,000 a month is insanity given that the PCB is paying Rs 1,000,000 a month to the PCB Media in charge and Rs 1.5 million to Inzi, Rs 1,000,000 to Azhar Mahmood and Grant Flower and Rs 2.5 million to the ball park. Wasim Khan is being paid correctly based on these wages.
 
Pakistani ex cricketers are the worst of the worst. I can’t think of a single one who has consistently made sensible, insightful comments post retirement. Either they have an agenda or talk absolute rubbish.
 
Pakistan ex cricketers speak anything on TV. Seems like there is no accountability. How are they going to fix anything? If you need to fix something which is broken for a long time you actually need a plan.
 
Lol Yes, they lack the ability to think of the bigger picture, All they see is a guy being paid Rs 4,000,000 a month but are completely forgetting that he is not getting it for free, he is expected to deliver big results and to justify that paycheque. His pay and package with the ECB would have been a lot higher.

To expect him to relocate with his wife and kids to Pakistan at a pay of Rs 500,000 a month is insanity given that the PCB is paying Rs 1,000,000 a month to the PCB Media in charge and Rs 1.5 million to Inzi, Rs 1,000,000 to Azhar Mahmood and Grant Flower and Rs 2.5 million to the ball park. Wasim Khan is being paid correctly based on these wages.

It's cause these guys insecure because they aren't very educated, don't have any other career options or investments so the only kinda jobs security they can get is either that of an analysts, commentator or work for the cricket admin.
 
Please tell us your plan. Lets know what your elite mind has in it to reform the domestic structure.
 
Pakistan is full of 'wallet watchers' who have an issue with professionals getting paid to do their job.

BTW, why give 3 lakh/match to Tanveer ? Myself can produce bowling figures of 15-0-100-1 for free ?

Irony is that if not for credentials, Tanveer wouldn't have been in this show. And his credentials are not that great either.
 
How much are these clowns being paid to speak rubbish on TV, i can do that for free? On a serious note if you want the best you have to pay for it simple as, people are unhappy about the salary but at the same time will complain when uneducated clowns are left to make big decisions which ultimately affect the PCB.
 
Shameless man, think about your kids at least what they would think of a grown man behaving like a bigot on national TV
 
Some of our ex players haven't got two brain cells to rub together.
 
Giving them salaries to be on this talk-show is a bigger waste of money.
 
Yawn. You have a fetish to complain and criticize. PCB has tried internal employees and local Pakistani employees for a good 70 plus years. It is time to try something different. Besides Wasim Khan is the one who approached Ehsan Mani over a cup of coffee in London and expressed his interest in working for the PCB.

He has a very good resume and has turned around an English County that was in tatters when he took over. Besides one of the reasons why the PCB hired him is to make optimal use of his reputation, contacts and clout in English Cricket and that is how the plans of these exchange programs for Umpires, Curators, A tours, U-16 to U-19 tours will happen. He has also been hired to improve PCB's revenues and convince international teams to tour Pakistan.

Wasim Khan did not approach Ehsan Mani, it was the other way around. You can defend his appointment all you want, but I refuse to believe that the idea of restructuring domestic cricket (when Imran has provided the framework anyway) should come at a cost of 40 lakhs per month.

He is surely capable and has a very good resume, but his appointment is an inefficient decision and shows that Ehsan Mani has no confidence in himself to take corrective measures. There is no reason why he should not have taken this matter in his own hands or even appoint an advisor of his choice that would cost PCB less than 40 lakhs per month.
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.

Listen, PCB and Pakistan cricket have bigger issues; Wasim actually doesn't have the worst CV. But let me ask you a question, you want Brit Pak's to contribute more when it comes to the country of their origin right but then can you explain why there is always so much hate towards them no matter what they do? I can see it from your "I left England because I care for Pakistan" quote. It seems like the very popular thing to do though, whether or not people from abroad make a positive contribution there is a feeling that they are not accepted, but is that how you treat your guests ? with abuse ? am just saying this generally and it goes beyond the current example.

But going back to your quote, if the pay is equal I can still safely say the benefits are much better for him in England but at the same time it's a privilege to work for Pakistan in a cricketing role despite the challenges because as you know most grow up supporting the Pakistan cricket team in the UK.
 
Wasim Khan did not approach Ehsan Mani, it was the other way around. You can defend his appointment all you want, but I refuse to believe that the idea of restructuring domestic cricket (when Imran has provided the framework anyway) should come at a cost of 40 lakhs per month.

He is surely capable and has a very good resume, but his appointment is an inefficient decision and shows that Ehsan Mani has no confidence in himself to take corrective measures. There is no reason why he should not have taken this matter in his own hands or even appoint an advisor of his choice that would cost PCB less than 40 lakhs per month.

Read the Espn article. It specifically states that Wasim Khan emailed Ehsan Mani when the later was appointed PCB Chairman congradulating him and then offered his services for Pakistan Cricket. Then the two met in England over a cup of coffee to discuss things further.

People like you are just short sighted attention seekers who just have a fetish to run their mouths to stay in the lime light.
 
Listen, PCB and Pakistan cricket have bigger issues; Wasim actually doesn't have the worst CV. But let me ask you a question, you want Brit Pak's to contribute more when it comes to the country of their origin right but then can you explain why there is always so much hate towards them no matter what they do? I can see it from your "I left England because I care for Pakistan" quote. It seems like the very popular thing to do though, whether or not people from abroad make a positive contribution there is a feeling that they are not accepted, but is that how you treat your guests ? with abuse ? am just saying this generally and it goes beyond the current example.

But going back to your quote, if the pay is equal I can still safely say the benefits are much better for him in England but at the same time it's a privilege to work for Pakistan in a cricketing role despite the challenges because as you know most grow up supporting the Pakistan cricket team in the UK.

He is just an attention seeker who has a fetish to be on the look out to criticize popular opinion to stay in the lime light. Something Sarfaraz Nawaz specialized in.
 
While Tanvir Ahmed is an uncouth individual with a big mouth, I have a different take on this.

Emotional rhetoric like "Wasim Khan cares a lot about Pakistan cricket and he left a high paying job and a great lifestyle in England to help PCB because he cares" sells like hot cakes in Pakistan. Our public is easily exploited with the patriotism card.

We are a gullible nation and Wasim Khan is probably charging 10 lakhs for this 'ahsaan' alone. Generally speaking, I don't think 40 lakhs/month is massive amount for bringing someone from the first world to the third world in an MD role. PCB had to pay him more (or at least equivalent) of what he was earning in £ to convince him to act on his 'patriotism and love and care for Pakistan'.

However, the pertinent question is, did PCB really need to hire someone from the UK for 40 lakhs per month and create a new fancy position in the hierarchy to fix domestic cricket? Whatever Wasim Khan is doing or planning to do should have been performed by the Chairman itself, and someone like Misbah could have been hired on 10 lakhs/month in an advisory role - he is educated, well-versed with the problems of domestic cricket and must have clear ideas on the areas that need improvement.

Besides, according to rumours, Imran Khan has established the framework for reforming the domestic cricket. Again, did we really need to hire someone for 40 lakhs per month to implement the design of Imran Khan and perhaps do a bit of tinkering? Why can't the Chairman do this job?

Ultimately, it is PCB's failure of failing to find internal solutions and looking to minimise costs without impacting performance, something that all organisations should be striving to achieve. I refuse to believe that the only solution for fixing Pakistan's domestic cricket was to hire a British Pakistani for 40 lakhs/month, and hear his narrative of how he left his job in England and took a pay-cut because he wants to help Pakistan cricket etc. every time he opens his mouth.

I hope Mr "I left England because I care for Pakistan" is able to bring change in our domestic setup and get it up and running without too many hiccups, but I do believe that this is far from an efficient process and all of this could have been achieved at a much lower cost.

This is a very simple and narrow minded take on this matter.

We need someone of Wasim Khan's background, not all the incompetent individuals based at home who've been tried and tested.

You're forgetting about what he did for Leicestershire CC. He literally did wonders for a financially crippling CC and utilised his contacts to bring in some quality signings from overseas.

Wasim Khan is an excellent appointment because he has recent experience and is therefore in touch with the modern game. It's all very well saying we don't need him because the structural reforms have already been decided, but who's going to oversee these changes? Who is going to be there to maintain and enhance it?

He's a blessing to PCB because if he did not reach out to Ehsan Mani, he could be earning close to £1m for the ECB (if not more). The reason why most of the BoG are insecure about him is because he actually cares about the greater good of Pakistan cricket and is willing to recommend for them to be axed from their roles, if required. If I was Ehsan Mani, I would have fired everyone who stood in his way because they are the dead weight in this organisation.
 
He is just an attention seeker who has a fetish to be on the look out to criticize popular opinion to stay in the lime light. Something Sarfaraz Nawaz specialized in.

Mamoon is a legend :)) he's writing a massive essay right now aha

I don't agree with him all the time but he's a good poster.


Regarding popular opinions I think it is popular to criticise Wasim in Pakistan primarily because of his background before he has even started his role properly
 
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This is the same guy who said Kohli ran away scared during the asia cup , when india suggested he would be rested, the ridcule he got on social media from indian fans led him to delete his social media accounts, he deserves a similar reaction for these comments tbh, also Imran Nazir should no better, trying to leech onto the PSL himself trying to make comebacks he should sit down and propose something more sensible if he can come up with a proper domestic structure for free. for the first time Pak are trying to do things professionally and they get criticized for it.
 
Mamoon is a legend :)) he's writing a massive essay right now aha

I don't agree with him all the time but he's a good poster.


Regarding popular opinions I think it is popular to criticise Wasim in Pakistan primarily because of his background before he has even started his role properly

I agree he is a good poster but does stuff for attention
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]

I have nothing against Wasim Khan or his credentials, but my point is that hiring him is not an efficient process.

Only a few months after appointing a new chairman, PCB has created a new unconstitutional position in its hierarchy at 40 lakh rupees per month in order to restructure domestic cricket.

This clearly says a lot about Ehsan Mani and his confidence in his own abilities to address the issues that have plagued domestic cricket.

40 lakhs per months may not be a big amount for a British Pakistani who has been earning in £s all his career, but it is an insanely huge amount for PCB, especially for duties that should be performed by the chairman himself.

In addition, Imran Khan has already laid the framework for the new domestic setup that he wants PCB to establish, so basically, Wasim Khan is getting 40 lakhs per month for implementing someone else’s idea, which again is something that Ehsan Mani is should be to pull off himself.

All these exchange programs (umpires, curators etc.) make little to no sense to me. Firstly, there is absolutely nothing in it for the ECB. They are not going to pay for English umpires and curators to go to Pakistan because Wasim Khan says so.

So what is going to happen? If this goes through, PCB will be covering the costs of the English umpires and curators to travel to Pakistan and work here for a few months, and it will also cover the costs of the Pakistani counterparts who will head to England. It is an expense that can be easily avoided.

Moreover, we have produced flat wickets for decades and only recently we produced flat wickets in Karachi for PSL. Why do our curators suddenly need help from English curators to produce pitches for F/C matches?

The pitches that they produced for PSL are the pitches that we need in F/C cricket, so Wasim Khan’s idea is to pay ECB curators thousands of £s to teach our curators what we already know.

Is he here to help Pakistan cricket or is he an ECB agent tasked with milking PCB dry?

As far as the umpire exchange program is concerned and paying thousands of pounds to bring English umpires here and send our umpires there, PCB could hire Aleem Dar as a consultant (and he won’t charge 40 lakhs per month) to help in devising an umpire training program.

He is one of the greatest umpires of all time and better and more experienced than any county umpire. There is no reason why PCB cannot use his services.

When it comes to A tours and U-19 matches, we have already had a decent number of fixtures in the last two years or so, and if the former president of ICC and our chairman doesn’t have enough clout to arrange a few A tours, what good is he?

Unless Wasim Khan can use his influence to convince ECB to tour Pakistan, I don’t see his appointment as worthwhile, and whatever he is intending to can be achieved more efficiently at a much lower cost if PCB had an enterprising chairman at the helm.

Appointing him seems like an easy solution on PCB’s part. His credentials are impressive, he has foreign experience and speaks English with a British accent. Let’s throw money at him without thinking this through.
 
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] [MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]

I have nothing against Wasim Khan or his credentials, but my point is that hiring him is not an efficient process.

Lol what are you talking about? There were 350 applicants for the position and it came down to Wasim Khan and Dr Nauman Niaz. This is standard practice for hiring applicants and no different to how PCB goes about hiring coaches. So based on this logic PCB shouldn't hire foreign coaches like Mickey Arthur and David Whatmore because there are Pakistani's who can do the role as well. Wasim Khan's resume, experience and accomplishments especially relating to Cricket are not what every other Pakistani has

Only a few months after appointing a new chairman, PCB has created a new unconstitutional position in its hierarchy at 40 lakh rupees per month in order to restructure domestic cricket.

This clearly says a lot about Ehsan Mani and his confidence in his own abilities to address the issues that have plagued domestic cricket.

Actually if you think about it, there was nothing in the PCB constitution for the post of Director General under the PPP, but Javed Miandad occupied that role for 6 long years at a cost of almost Rs 1.5 million a month and did absolutely zilch for Pakistan Cricket. He even on record at the time said on tv that given his stature, prestige he deserved to be paid that much but the PCB was not utilizing his services properly

Ehsan Mani's point of view is that in all other cricket boards, the position of the chairman and the position of the CEO are two different roles and seperate positions. In no other Board the Chairman is also the CEO. Wasim Khan has been hired as MD for now but the plan is to later change the constitution and to change his post from MD to CEO.

The role of the CEO is to be responsible for the day to day functioning at the PCB, performance of the team, international cricket, domestic cricket and the chairman on the other hands provides overall strategic overview.

40 lakhs per months may not be a big amount for a British Pakistani who has been earning in £s all his career, but it is an insanely huge amount for PCB, especially for duties that should be performed by the chairman himself.

Last i checked, the PCB Bank Accounts showed a total of Rs 10 billion, Rs 4 million for a CEO with an outstanding trackrecord of performance and with the pressure to deliver big is justified.

In addition, Imran Khan has already laid the framework for the new domestic setup that he wants PCB to establish, so basically, Wasim Khan is getting 40 lakhs per month for implementing someone else’s idea, which again is something that Ehsan Mani is should be to pull off himself.

Implementing the domestic structure as you can see and observe is very messy where the departments mafia are already making a lot of noise about players no longer getting free handouts. Plus it is not easy to overhaul a 70 year old system. The transition has to be handled professionally and with due care and dilligence.

He is not here for domestic cricket only, his role is to thoroughly professionalize the organization, improve revenue streams, get international cricket to Pakistan, get more U 16, U 19, A tours going

All these exchange programs (umpires, curators etc.) make little to no sense to me. Firstly, there is absolutely nothing in it for the ECB. They are not going to pay for English umpires and curators to go to Pakistan because Wasim Khan says so.

So what is going to happen? If this goes through, PCB will be covering the costs of the English umpires and curators to travel to Pakistan and work here for a few months, and it will also cover the costs of the Pakistani counterparts who will head to England. It is an expense that can be easily avoided.


As far as the umpire exchange program is concerned and paying thousands of pounds to bring English umpires here and send our umpires there, PCB could hire Aleem Dar as a consultant (and he won’t charge 40 lakhs per month) to help in devising an umpire training program.

He is one of the greatest umpires of all time and better and more experienced than any county umpire. There is no reason why PCB cannot use his services.

Everyone knows that umpring standards in Pakistan's domestic cricket is very poor. I once remember seeing a video clip on GEO which showed bowlers were openly indulging in ball tampering and the umpires were powerless to do anything about it.

Again, your desire to criticize, mock, riddicule is far greater than your desire to see improvements in Pakistan Cricket. I am pretty sure if Imran Khan had come to you for a donation for the Shaukat Khannum Hospital in the 80's and 90's, you would have turned him away and completely dismissed the idea and demoralized him that you are wasting your time, you will never ever be successful, forget it.

Thank goodness we have some people on this planet who have the ability to see the bigger picture.

Moreover, we have produced flat wickets for decades and only recently we produced flat wickets in Karachi for PSL. Why do our curators suddenly need help from English curators to produce pitches for F/C matches?

The pitches that they produced for PSL are the pitches that we need in F/C cricket, so Wasim Khan’s idea is to pay ECB curators thousands of £s to teach our curators what we already know.

Actually if you had listened to his interview properly, he specifically mentioned that all professional domestic cricket structures around the world have different kinds of pitches in different stadiums. It is no secret that our domestic cricket pitches have gone for a complete toss in the last 10 plus years and the groundsmen had very little knowledge on how to prepare proper fast flat pitches with decent bounce that you see in India.

There is nothing wrong for striving to further improve.

When it comes to A tours and U-19 matches, we have already had a decent number of fixtures in the last two years or so, and if the former president of ICC and our chairman doesn’t have enough clout to arrange a few A tours, what good is he?

Unless Wasim Khan can use his influence to convince ECB to tour Pakistan, I don’t see his appointment as worthwhile, and whatever he is intending to can be achieved more efficiently at a much lower cost if PCB had an enterprising chairman at the helm.

Yes, we have seen how past PCB Chairman's and employees have been able to achieve. Lol i wonder if you will take back your words if the ECB does agree to a full tour of Pakistan. I predict you will dismiss it as if it could have been achieved by anyone else as well

Is he here to help Pakistan cricket or is he an ECB agent tasked with milking PCB dry? Appointing him seems like an easy solution on PCB’s part. His credentials are impressive, he has foreign experience and speaks English with a British accent. Let’s throw money at him without thinking this through.

He could have made 1,000,000 pounds a year working for the ECB. He was in running for Andrew Strauss's position and had made it to the second interview and the ECB were disappointed that he chose to work for the PCB. Appointing him was no easy solution by any means, he has already mentioned that he would not have accepted the position if he wasn't sure if he would have been able to make a difference and that IK becoming Prime Minister played a major role in him deciding to offer his services to Pakistan Cricket
 
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]! Your opinion on the new domestic structure?

Are Six regional teams 1st class tournament good for Pakistan?
 
Lol what are you talking about? There were 350 applicants for the position and it came down to Wasim Khan and Dr Nauman Niaz. This is standard practice for hiring applicants and no different to how PCB goes about hiring coaches. So based on this logic PCB shouldn't hire foreign coaches like Mickey Arthur and David Whatmore because there are Pakistani's who can do the role as well. Wasim Khan's resume, experience and accomplishments especially relating to Cricket are not what every other Pakistani has

It is not an efficient process because restructuring the format of domestic competitions (especially when Imran Khan wants his idea to be implemented) should not come at a cost of 40 lakhs per month. This job should be performed by the chairman.

It is not about whether local people can perform the role or not. Hiring Mickey or Arthur is not a waste of resources, but hiring two people for what should be the job of one individual certainly is.

There is absolutely no reason why Ehsan Mani shouldn’t have performed this job, and he could have easily appointed an advisor who wouldn’t have costed PCB 40 lakhs per month.
Actually if you think about it, there was nothing in the PCB constitution for the post of Director General under the PPP, but Javed Miandad occupied that role for 6 long years at a cost of almost Rs 1.5 million a month and did absolutely zilch for Pakistan Cricket. He even on record at the time said on tv that given his stature, prestige he deserved to be paid that much but the PCB was not utilizing his services properly

And Wasim Khan is going to cost more for a job that should have been performed by our chairman. The end result is essentially the same - it is an unjustifiable waste of resources.

Ehsan Mani's point of view is that in all other cricket boards, the position of the chairman and the position of the CEO are two different roles and seperate positions. In no other Board the Chairman is also the CEO. Wasim Khan has been hired as MD for now but the plan is to later change the constitution and to change his post from MD to CEO.

Most of these boards generate more revenue than PCB and they don’t have foreigners as MDs/CEOs who would cost more than a local alternative.

Ehsan Mani was quick to come up with a list of the over the top expenses during Sethi’s tenure, but his solution for cost cutting was to invent a position at a cost of 40 lakhs per month to essentially perform a job that he should be performing in the first place.

The role of the CEO is to be responsible for the day to day functioning at the PCB, performance of the team, international cricket, domestic cricket and the chairman on the other hands provides overall strategic overview.

What is this strategic overview that Mani is or will provide? It is a very vague term with an unclear job description.

If Imran Khan is providing the framework for the new domestic structure and Wasim Khan is tasked with implementing the structure, Ehsan Mani doesn’t fit in anywhere. His role is now so marginalized that it doesn’t justify two individuals and two job titles.

Last i checked, the PCB Bank Accounts showed a total of Rs 10 billion, Rs 4 million for a CEO with an outstanding trackrecord of performance and with the pressure to deliver big is justified.

Even the most profitable organization strive to minimize costs without compromising on performance. I am yet to see a solid explanation for why the chairman cannot oversee the restructuring of domestic cricket and evaluate the performance of the team.

Implementing the domestic structure as you can see and observe is very messy where the departments mafia are already making a lot of noise about players no longer getting free handouts. Plus it is not easy to overhaul a 70 year old system. The transition has to be handled professionally and with due care and dilligence.

Firstly, why can’t Ehsan Mani do it?

Secondly, do you really think Wasim Khan has what it takes to take on the mafia?

He is not here for domestic cricket only, his role is to thoroughly professionalize the organization, improve revenue streams, get international cricket to Pakistan, get more U 16, U 19, A tours going

Again, why can’t Ehsan Mani do it?

Everyone knows that umpring standards in Pakistan's domestic cricket is very poor. I once remember seeing a video clip on GEO which showed bowlers were openly indulging in ball tampering and the umpires were powerless to do anything about it.

Yes they are poor, but spending thousands of pounds to bring ECB umpires here and send our umpires to England doesn’t seem like a prudent solution to me, and more of a money wasting exercise. What will ECB teach them? How to not be powerless when there is ball tampering?

I see no reason why Aleem Dar’s services cannot be utilized to improve the standard of umpiring in domestic cricket. He is better and more accomplished than any umpire on ECB’s watch.
Again, your desire to criticize, mock, riddicule is far greater than your desire to see improvements in Pakistan Cricket. I am pretty sure if Imran Khan had come to you for a donation for the Shaukat Khannum Hospital in the 80's and 90's, you would have turned him away and completely dismissed the idea and demoralized him that you are wasting your time, you will never ever be successful, forget it.

Thank goodness we have some people on this planet who have the ability to see the bigger picture.

You can make your thinly veiled personal attacks, but I don’t criticize for the sake of criticism - I have yet to come across a genuine justification for why appointing Wasim Khan at 40 lakhs per month is reasonable after the appointment of Ehsan Mani. I am not stubborn, and if someone makes a genuine argument I will accept.

Actually if you had listened to his interview properly, he specifically mentioned that all professional domestic cricket structures around the world have different kinds of pitches in different stadiums. It is no secret that our domestic cricket pitches have gone for a complete toss in the last 10 plus years and the groundsmen had very little knowledge on how to prepare proper fast flat pitches with decent bounce that you see in India.

Our groundsmen seem to have more than adequate knowledge on how to produce flat, high-scoring pitches for PSL and Pakistan Cup. If they produce these wickets in F/C matches, we will see scores of 500+ that we want, and it is strange why they are unable to produce those pitches in F/C tournaments.

Is because the F/C season is scheduled in the winters or is what the local coaches demand? Anyway, spending thousands of pounds to bring English curators to Pakistan and send our curators to England is not the solution.

Yes, we have seen how past PCB Chairman's and employees have been able to achieve. Lol i wonder if you will take back your words if the ECB does agree to a full tour of Pakistan. I predict you will dismiss it as if it could have been achieved by anyone else as well.

I will accept the worth of his appointment if he can convince ECB to arrange a full tour to Pakistan. Apart from that, I don’t see any worth in his appointment that couldn’t have been achieved with better planning at less cost.

He could have made 1,000,000 pounds a year working for the ECB. He was in running for Andrew Strauss's position and had made it to the second interview and the ECB were disappointed that he chose to work for the PCB. Appointing him was no easy solution by any means, he has already mentioned that he would not have accepted the position if he wasn't sure if he would have been able to make a difference and that IK becoming Prime Minister played a major role in him deciding to offer his services to Pakistan Cricket

Yes he did a big favor to Pakistan cricket by choosing PCB over ECB, but this is not about his credentials but PCB’s ill-planning. Like most of Imran Khan’s appointments, Ehsan Mani was a mistake. He is only fit for ceremonial roles where he has no real power (e.g. ICC President).

He doesn’t have the energy for this role and the confidence to take matters into his own hands. His solution is to dump all responsibility on Wasim Khan’s head at a cost of 40 lakhs per month while he attends meetings and does nothing.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]! Your opinion on the new domestic structure?

Are Six regional teams 1st class tournament good for Pakistan?

Abolishing departmental cricket is not feasible in Pakistan. It is the bread and butter of the domestic players and their main source of income. Unless the regional boards are able to pay them as much as departments, this idea will not work in the long-term.
 
Wasim Khan is getting what he is worth, if not all the posters here would be getting that kind of money. Eng of conversation. If you want top quality you must pay top bucks.
 
Mamoon has made a name of himself for criticising Pakistan as a country, it's institutions, the people, the politicians, just about anyone and anything associated with the nation.

Yet as soon as a qualified British Pakistani from abroad is hired to oversee the domestic structure, he starts complaining that local Pakistanis themselves should have been given the job! :91:
 
40 Lakhs a month or not. Why PCB needed to hire someone from abroad? Is everyone dead in Pakistan?
 
Imran has been playing FC for 25 years? How old was he when he made his FC debut? 11?
 
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