Why are Pakistani batsmen so poor against bounce?

[Boiz Played Well]

I think we are in a dry spell for quality players. New domestic system should give us better players. Expect this in 5 years I reckon.

A relatively competitive Australian series can inspire some confidence in the ranks too.

 

[omairsiddiqui]

Pak batsmen really need to take on the short ball

Overall, the Test series was a great success for the batsmen. Barring Rizwan and Haris, all got big scores and enjoyed home conditions.

One thing I did observe, both in home Tests and in Australia, was that almost no one in the top 6, except maybe Shan, likes to play the pull shot. They all duck and weave to the short ball.

I thought SL didn't test Pak batsmen enough with the short ball in Karachi. Abid got a few in Pindi, but that was it.

Ducking and weaving is important, but not hooking or pulling a single short ball is not a good habit to develop if you want to score runs overseas. The England tour is the next major Test series and a certain Jofra Archer will be targeting those helmets.

 

[shamaan]

Shan masood and babar can play short ball.they need hard training to overcome this problem not a one day fix

 

[Swashbuckler]

Zimbabwe 130 kph pacers do the job in Perth. No improvement in Pakistan, if they can't handle bounce in T20s which already has so many restrictions on bowlers, something is terribly wrong with their domestic cricket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This was printed on october 4th

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...nd-shoaib-akhtar-reiterates-it-again-8186798/

Does Pakistan’s Babar Azam have a bouncer problem? Shoaib Akthar thinks so
“I fear that this Pakistan team can go out of the world cup in the first round itself,” says Shoaib Akthar.

 

[Fawad_Bhai]

Here's what I don't understand, isn't Kohli a front foot player too? I've seen many people blame it that PAKISTAN batsmen can only play on front foot and that's why they are struggling which doesn't make sense compared to how Indian batsmen are doing well

 

[cricketjoshila]

20 years back, India has similar issues. A concerted effort has been made to only select batsman who can score on bouncy pitches.

An example is why Shreyas Iyer was not played in SA tests, apparently he has issues with bounce.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Here's what I don't understand, isn't Kohli a front foot player too? I've seen many people blame it that PAKISTAN batsmen can only play on front foot and that's why they are struggling which doesn't make sense compared to how Indian batsmen are doing well

Kohli is not an ordinary batsman. Its wrong to compare him with others.

 

[emranabbas]

2019 shan masood played short ball well and he still playing short ball well
Imad should have been selected for wc since he can play short ball too

 

[Swashbuckler]

20 years back, India has similar issues. A concerted effort has been made to only select batsman who can score on bouncy pitches.

An example is why Shreyas Iyer was not played in SA tests, apparently he has issues with bounce.

India always had great batsmen against bounce, the likes of Viswanath, Gavaskar, Amarnath etc. Lillee and Andy Roberts (both feared for their bouncers) rated Viswanath pretty highly, Marshall's biggest rival was Vengsarkar. We all know about Amarnath.

In 1980-81 they drew 1-1 in Australia against Lillee-Pascoe (that Aussie team also had Greg Chappell, Doug Walters, Border, Kim Hughes, Rod Marsh). Even Thommo didn't have a good record against India.

India's major weaknesses throughout history have been batting against swing bowling. And of course weak pace bowling.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India always had great batsmen against bounce, the likes of Viswanath, Gavaskar, Amarnath etc. Lillee and Andy Roberts (both feared for their bouncers) rated Viswanath pretty highly, Marshall's biggest rival was Vengsarkar. We all know about Amarnath.

In 1980-81 they drew 1-1 in Australia against Lillee-Pascoe (that Aussie team also had Greg Chappell, Doug Walters, Border, Kim Hughes, Rod Marsh). Even Thommo didn't have a good record against India.

India's major weaknesses throughout history have been batting against swing bowling. And of course weak pace bowling.

India actually did well against swing. India's record against England in England is better than their record in Australia.

The players you mentioned were the exception to their teammates. The others in the line up struggled against bounce.

This started changing in 2000s, Dravid Tendulkar Laxman all played bounce well. Sehwag though weaker against bounce, devised his own technique to atleast be able to score runs.

Ganguly was an exception, but he was dropped and had to work on his short pitch game to get back into the team.

Since then we have made sure our batters dont struggle against pace and bounce. Movement is another thing altogether.

 

[Swashbuckler]

India actually did well against swing. India's record against England in England is better than their record in Australia.

India's W-L is 9-30 in Australia, 9-36 in England. Australia historically has been far far better team than England, far tougher place to tour. If you take that into account India's record in Australia is better than in England.

India did well against swing in 80s and 2000s. I give you that.