Why can't Bangladesh beat Pakistan?

[Bilal7]

Bangladesh will beat quite a few teams, not just Pakistan they will definitely surpass us all they need is some more cricket.

No they won't. kthanksbye.

 

[Executioner]

They are however, a much better team than New Zealand at the moment, despite what some cocky, delusional Kiwi supporters were claiming a few months ago.

Much better? At home yes

But on neutral venues I would comfortable say that Kiwis are most likely to win. Add to that we would have struggled against Kiwis in NZ. The best way to judge who is better buy playing on a neutral venue that does not really provide enough advantage to either side. I think pitches like those in Hambantota which has both turn + seam movement will be a clear indication of who is better

 

[Executioner]

Absolutely, that's why I was amazed when BD media started saying such stuff at the eve of the penultimate day of Multan test. My father remained as a POW of 71 war and has some fond memories of places like cox bazar,Dhaka, sylhet, Khulna. He still says that in his heart BD is still east Pakistan.

But the players are not! I don't suppose the players really care about what happened during the way. Your players come over to Bangladesh and regularly play in our leagues, and the important part is that they enjoy the respect the hospitality they receive

This bringing up of 1971 by our media is nothing but un-necessary. Our media is no different from that Pakistan/India media. If there is to talk about any war, then it should be about the war in the cricket field. Heck, in the Dhaka League, the title sponsors Walton used to hand over a BLENDER along with a cash prize. Luke wright saw the funny side of it and tweeted about it with a picture. Blenders being handed over was really nothing but a part of marketing, the same way players are handed cheap phones like those Karbonn mobiles. But our media behaved like it was an insult to a legendary player like Sir Luke Wright

 

[saeedhk]

Bangladesh has improved tremendously in recent times while Pakistan has regressed.

 

[Bilal7]

Much better? At home yes

But on neutral venues I would comfortable say that Kiwis are most likely to win. Add to that we would have struggled against Kiwis in NZ. The best way to judge who is better buy playing on a neutral venue that does not really provide enough advantage to either side. I think pitches like those in Hambantota which has both turn + seam movement will be a clear indication of who is better

Funny how the Bengali supporters are more realistic than some Kiwi supporters.

 

[Aman]

Funny how the Bengali supporters are more realistic than some Kiwi supporters.

It's called the catch up effect, obviously the first few tours they'll struggle but after a while they'll settle. The good thing is they have the main ingredient to be a good ODI side - good young batsmen.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

It is because Bangladesh never tried to attack Pakistan's weakness their batting. On seaming pitch Pakistani batting can crumble, so badly that even their bowler cant bail them out (ex Zimbabwe). Bangladesh always prepares flat batting wickets and then try their spinners against Pakistan that is too defensive a strategy. It is not going to work.

 

[Executioner]

It is because Bangladesh never tried to attack Pakistan's weakness their batting. On seaming pitch Pakistani batting can crumble, so badly that even their bowler cant bail them out (ex Zimbabwe). Bangladesh always prepares flat batting wickets and then try their spinners against Pakistan that is too defensive a strategy. It is not going to work.

But Pakistan have some excellent Pace bowlers themselves. Our pace bowlers are barely decent in ODIs, ordinary in tests.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

It's called the catch up effect, obviously the first few tours they'll struggle but after a while they'll settle. The good thing is they have the main ingredient to be a good ODI side - good young batsmen.

Brother kiwi's real name is Amandeep, nice name brother

 

[Energetic]

I created this thread because if you look at the head to head record, Pakistan are the only team that have played Bangladesh the most and the head to head record is so one-sided that Pakistan are literally ranked A and Bangladesh are ranked Z.

I also remember that 3rd ODI between Bangladesh and Pakistan where that floodlight problem happened when Bangladesh were cruising to beat Pakistan but suddenly they just collapsed.

Maybe Pakistan hates losing to Bangladesh given their history? not saying that's a bad thing but Pakistani players show NO remorse no matter how emotional Bangladesh players or even fans are.

Anyway another reason I created this thread was that I have a feeling Bangladesh will finally beat Pakistan given how well they have become since 2012 beat India, Sri Lanka, West Indies and New Zealand recently.

2014 2 teams will be meeting in Asia Cup and in World T20 providing Bangladesh qualify and 2015 a full series just before the world cup. Hopefully we'll find out soon.

 

[Energetic]

We'll see if they can though.

 

[hadi123]

I know we've made several bad bowlers look like legends but doing that against people like Shahadat Hossain is just too much and we can flay losers like him

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

is back in form, also getting his bowling mojo back, we are happy facing windies and zimbos :flower

The minnow bashers combined is doomsday for us

 

[Energetic]

It seems impossible to beat Pakistan no matter how good we compete. Maybe its a curse.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

I believe there are 9 Pakistan born players in Hong Kong's squad

 

[Mamoon]

I believe there are 9 Pakistan born players in Hong Kong's squad

Well spotted

 

[thivakar]

Because they are not good enough

 

[hafeezrocks]

Bangladesh cannot defeat Pakistan or even its B,C,D or Z teams

any team that is predominantly fully of players with origin from Pakistan is enough to defeat Bangladesh.

 

[yadunoe]

This is an interesting question

Its identical to why Pakistan can't beat India in World Cups. Ever since that "Flukish" win in 1999, Bangladesh have come perilously close to beating Pakistan several times but went to lose, not because of Pakistan's ability but because of OUR INEPTNESS. Now everytime we come in a winning position, a shadow of doubt hovers around Bangladeshi players: "Are we gonna bottle it up again"?

The only solution to this problem is if we manage to win just 1 match, and then we can hope to win regularly. Pakistan are still the better team by a good margin so the claims of BD being favourites for a 5 match ODI series is not justified. Its like that the series will end up as 3-2 or 4-1 in Pakistan's favour. Now home advantage is useless in this case because both Pakistan and Bangldesh are decent on spin friendly conditions, but mediocre overseas.

However, with Pakistan's decline and Bangladesh's rise we may see Pakistan VS Bangladesh being competitive in the future.

what decline are you talking about and what rise are you talking about , Bangla are closer in quality to AFG and Ire then they are to pak

 

[yadunoe]

Your attack is over rated, once under fire it disappears

And even if they do fire Bangladesh will still score 220+, which at the moment is too much for Pakistan to chase.

do you suffer from short term memory loss? we just chased down their biggest ever total in their own stadium

 

[Strike Rate]

I believe there are 9 Pakistan born players in Hong Kong's squad

actualy 11 out of 15 are pakisani born and 8/9 in every 11 they play are part of that.

 

[IJWBS]

Bangladesh have a 100% record against Pakistan in World Cups and that's more important than winning JAMODIs

 

[yadunoe]

I'm just stating my opinion theres no need to bash NZ. Bangladesh are a promising side there is no denying that.

they bring the promise of loosing to HK that is all

 

[Aman]

do you suffer from short term memory loss? we just chased down their biggest ever total in their own stadium

Work in progress, who knows they might just knock you out of the WT20

 

[Aman]

they bring the promise of loosing to HK that is all

Pakistan lose Tests to Zimbabwe yet they're still superstars?

 

[Areesh]

Pakistan lose Tests to Zimbabwe yet they're still superstars?

Pakistan also beat India, SL, West Indies etc etc

 

[menace2society]

BD need to do quite a bit of winning before they can start comparing. Say 10 years of regularly beating top teams?

 

[yadunoe]

BD need to do quite a bit of winning before they can start comparing. Say 10 years of regularly beating top teams?

first ten years of regularly beating bad teams then winning 2 world cups and producing countless legends, then they can come and try to compare themselves

 

[Bilal7]

Because they are not good enough

This is it. Bangladesh should stick to humiliating the overrated Kiwis and forget about beating Pakistan.

InshAllah, it will never happen (again).

 

[menace2society]

first ten years of regularly beating bad teams then winning 2 world cups and producing countless legends, then they can come and try to compare themselves

Thats a bit extreme.

They can produce greats in the process who will be remembered.

But for that BD has to win against top teams and win the odd world cup.

Right now they are in minnowland, and in minnowland they have buddies who are Afghanistan and Ireland who are comparable.

 

[Gujra]

Haters gonna hate


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[Arsal_AK]

They are simply not good enough.

 

[BDfanforever]

Thats a bit extreme.

They can produce greats in the process who will be remembered.

But for that BD has to win against top teams and win the odd world cup.

Right now they are in minnowland, and in minnowland they have buddies who are Afghanistan and Ireland who are comparable.

Haha yeah in minnowland we are more like Ind and Ire=Ban, AFG=Zim.

 

[steelo green]

I think simply saying they are not good enough should suffice, but a little more analysis would do well.

When you have a streak against a team, no matter what the circumstance, you play with ease a great deal. Pakistan, for whatever reason, have always felt they are better than Bangladesh and always show it.

The reason why Bangladesh has had a shot against India is because historically, they have had poor bowling, and if you can restrict India a tad bit, you may be able to beat them with the bat. Pakistan on the other hand have historically been a strong bowling team, something that will always give you a chance to win every match.

Being that Pakistans bowling of late seems to have fallen off, it gave Bangladesh in the last match the closest opportunity to strike.

To be fair though, it is exactly what it is, Bangladesh is not a good team. Hong Kong beat them today. I don't care much for the format, but at home they were embarrassed today probably more so than any team I can remember in recent history.

 

[Adil_94]

Pakistan lose Tests to Zimbabwe yet they're still superstars?

We are inconsistent we lost to Zimbabwe then beat SA could Bangladesh ever beat South Africa in a Test Match at home no we aren't the best team but still we are comfortably ahead of Bangladesh to say we couldn't chase over 220 against the Bengali bowling attack is just trolling We never get under pressure playing them it's always them who choke against us even when they're in winning positions. Like us against India in World Cups.

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[Adil_94]

Bangladesh have a 100% record against Pakistan in World Cups and that's more important than winning JAMODIs

Hahaha we were already through and everybody in cricket knew Pakistan fixed that game so you would get Test status :Bengali Bhai

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[cricketAXEpert]

As long as we have 2 "minnow-basher" beasts ... dont even think about it

LoL yes the Minnow Bashers, they always take the game away from Bangladesh

 

[Gujra]

Just because Bangladesh won couple of matches in last year or so doesn't mean they are par with Pakistan first why don't you compete with WI,NZ heck even Zimbabwe.

 

[yadunoe]

Thats a bit extreme.

They can produce greats in the process who will be remembered.

But for that BD has to win against top teams and win the odd world cup.

Right now they are in minnowland, and in minnowland they have buddies who are Afghanistan and Ireland who are comparable.

they have not even produced one cricketer who is a legend

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

BUMP

BD always choke against us..

 

[Someone]

Soooo ummmmm can bangladesh beat pakistan now ?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Soooo ummmmm can bangladesh beat pakistan now ?

Nope, they can't.

 

[Zerotohero]

Nope, they can't.

What was the result of their last series ?

 

[zain7077]

What was the result of their last series ?

The last series had none of fakhar babar haris malik amir hassan shadab fahim.

This team would absolutely annihilate the Mirpur bullies.

 

[Zerotohero]

The last series had none of fakhar babar haris malik amir hassan shadab fahim.

This team would absolutely annihilate the Mirpur bullies.

You are speaking as if all those are ATG's


What next Imran,Miandad,Anwar,Wasim and Waqar were also not there after your next series whitewash in hands of the Tigers ?

Every day is not sunday and not a CT final. If Bangladesh were there in place of India , would have beaten your team black and blue.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Bangladesh are not mentally strong when it comes against us...whether its men,women or under 19.

Sort of how we were versus India in the early 2010s

 

[zain7077]

You are speaking as if all those are ATG's


What next Imran,Miandad,Anwar,Wasim and Waqar were also not there after your next series whitewash in hands of the Tigers ?



Every day is not sunday and not a CT final. If Bangladesh were there in place of India , would have beaten your team black and blue.

Azhar < Tamim
Fakhar > Soumya
Babar > Littion/ Kayes or whoever ur no. 3 is
Malik > Mahmadullah
Hafeez < Shakib
Imad > N Hossain
Shadab > M Hassan/ Mosadden
Hasan > Fizz
Amir > Taskin
Junaid > Rubel


Lol our line up when we toured last was

Azhar
Hafeez
Fawad
Saad nasim
Shafiq
Ajmal
rahat
Gul
Irfan

Kenya can beat that team ^

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistan beat the living daylights out of Bangaldesh in the last limited overs match the two sides played. The Pakistan team at that time was much inferior to what we have right now.