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Why do you think Pakistan failed to win the Test match in Dubai despite bowling Austrlia out cheaply in the 1st innings and going into day 5 in such a strong position?

Slow batting in the 1st innings?
Poor team selection?
Poor captaincy?
Poor bowling?

Other?
 
Saj said:
Why do you think Pakistan failed to win the Test match in Dubai despite bowling Austrlia out cheaply in the 1st innings and going into day 5 in such a strong position?

Slow batting in the 1st innings?
Poor team selection?
Poor captaincy?
Poor bowling?

Other?
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All of the above plus much (much) more.
 
Poor Captaincy, Poor ineffective bowling by Wahab and the Pitch eased out considerably on Day 4 and Day 5 which made defensive batting easier.
 
1) snail like batting 1st inns after openers got out.
2) didnt really see why batted in 2nd inns till bowled out, declared abit earlier.
3) rubbish captaincy, field placings, use of reviews
4) Apart ftom Abbas bowling was poor, not pressure or containment.

Until negative influences like Azhar and sarfaraz go results will be poor.
 
Saj said:
Why do you think Pakistan failed to win the Test match in Dubai despite bowling Austrlia out cheaply in the 1st innings and going into day 5 in such a strong position?

Slow batting in the 1st innings?
Poor team selection?
Poor captaincy?
Poor bowling?

Other?
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Aus batted well.
 
Should have had 5-6 men around the bat at all times
Bounced them out more with one at short leg and 2 in the deep

They were hoping for Australia to make mistakes. No killer instinct. Poor captaincy to blame for that
 
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I'll say - lack of belief on themselves. PAK, lead by their dynamic Captain, even after winning a crucial toss, never believed that they were in better position and should dominate the game.

Batted like minnow for at least 75 overs, after a 200+ opening pair. Then batted 2nd time with a lead of 280 like they were in forced follow on by Aussies & trying to save the game (send a NWM as well with a lead over 300 !!!!). Finally, got 462 to defend on last day with 3 down already - yet fielded like more concerned of AUS chasing 462 in 140 overs, rather than themselves picking 10 wickets.
 
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Pakistan lacks the intensity for the kill punch. India had this problem but the new bunch seems to doesn't have this mental block.
 
Khawaja, who unleashed his hidden Pakistani avatar, batting as if at home, with no sort of fuss. He'd been accused of not having done his homework around five years ago in Asia by a man who's now in the opposite ranks to watch him having finally done it
 
1st Mistake: Snail pace batting after an opening stand of 200. Cost us 20-30 overs at least which would have been enough to ensure a win.

2nd Mistake: Defensive field placement when in a strong position. For a good 30-40 overs Australia weren't put under any pressure.

3rd Mistake: 2 missed reviews, the second one was criminal.

Before the match:

Selecting Wahab. I understand the idea behind playing him but he looks depleted.

Selecting Bilal Asif. I have been impressed by him and I feel he has good potential. The turn and bounce he produces can be a potent weapon as shown by his first innings performance but the guy is clearly not used to being a frontline bowler. His inexperience showed in the 4th innings when the Australian batsmen were taking him seriously. He doesn't bowl the proper lines and doesn't know how to set up batsmen like a frontline spinner should.
 
Lack of impetus in the fist innings.

The sad part is, there is no way the players/team management would point this out. This has been a chronic problem for our team.
 
Fahdi said:
1st Mistake: Snail pace batting after an opening stand of 200. Cost us 20-30 overs at least which would have been enough to ensure a win.

2nd Mistake: Defensive field placement when in a strong position. For a good 30-40 overs Australia weren't put under any pressure.

3rd Mistake: 2 missed reviews, the second one was criminal.

Before the match:

Selecting Wahab. I understand the idea behind playing him but he looks depleted.

Selecting Bilal Asif. I have been impressed by him and I feel he has good potential. The turn and bounce he produces can be a potent weapon as shown by his first innings performance but the guy is clearly not used to being a frontline bowler. His inexperience showed in the 4th innings when the Australian batsmen were taking him seriously. He doesn't bowl the proper lines and doesn't know how to set up batsmen like a frontline spinner should.
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Can you tell what happened? I wasn't able to catch the Aus 2nd innings.
 
A lot of factors contributed to Australia holding on for a draw. Form of Yasir coming into the match, Wahab's presence in a 4-man bolwing attack, and Bilal's ineffectiveness in the last inninings. I don't buy that we batted slow in either first or second innings. 4.5 sessions is a lot of time to get a team out.

However, with all being said, the major reason for me was the absurd captaincy of Sarfaraz. Even with all the handicaps described above, we should have won if not for Sarfaraz's defensive captaincy where he spread the field and gave easy singles to every new batsman.
 
Everything actually. The slow batting after opening partnership. Mediocre keeping from Sarfraz and Captaincy. Missed chances. Poor reviews. Yasir out of form. Wahab as usual. Bilal inexperienced in International Cricket.
 
The pitch had eased out as well on Day 4 and 5. Very slow turn, little bounce and pace. Easy for the batsmen to defend, but Sarfaraz did not help himself with his defensive captaincy
 
Experience and know how. Some teams can punch above their weight with attitude and know how translated into wriggling out of difficult situations. Australia showed how it should be done. To win five sessions and still get a draw for Australia just shows how much we have to improve as a team and it’s wrong to isolate bad captaincy or bad bowling.
 
Itachi said:
Pakistan lacks the intensity for the kill punch. India had this problem but the new bunch seems to doesn't have this mental block.
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Had this under Misbah at least in Tests.

Not there anymore. Sarfraz is a nobody. No brains. Tactics.
 
Australia did their homework . Micky Arthur did not do his :))
 
Pakistan don't force the advantage when the opposition is down.

In the first innings they were 222-2 (69.3 ovs) and then crawled to 244-3 (86.5 ovs). I mean 22 runs in 17 overs is just pathetic.
 
I'd have to say...Wahab.
Not too much wrong other than that...
Pakistan always bat at around 3 rpo, so that wasnt it.
May be a bit timid captaincy, but we would say that now cos we've lost.
Not seen too much wrong with Pak play..and of course the Aussies were superb!
 
That was a disappointing result against an under strength Aussie side. Misbah used to call Sarfraz the team's oxygen when he was batting for him in the UAE test matches. He is a shadow of that player now and that lack of confidence and killer instinct is showing in his captaincy.
 
The aussies batted well. Lets face it.. why do we have to always find blame with soemone within our team..

Nobody is perfect and sure there are lots of areas for improvement but credit where its due

Khawaja batted well. Period!
 
Well, I don't know, maybe Australia were absolutely superb in the fourth innings? They are an international team too, you know?

Before the match started, I said that anything less than a crushing whitewash would be a loss for Pakistan but after seeing the heart this Aussie side showed, I'm not even disappointed. Pakistan did nothing wrong, Australia just deserved a draw.

However, the next game HAS to be won.
 
Saj said:
Pakistan don't force the advantage when the opposition is down.

In the first innings they were 222-2 (69.3 ovs) and then crawled to 244-3 (86.5 ovs). I mean 22 runs in 17 overs is just pathetic.
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Azhar started the nightwatchmens job early on day 1 and did just as bad a job on day 3 in same role :facepalm: pathetic indeed
 
Why do out batsman just tuk tuk tuk. They could have gotten singles in the first innings to keep the scoreboard ticking over but no just block block block even at over 200 for 2. In the 2nd innings either should have enforced follow on (bet no one wanted to bat on the 5th day thats why they didn’t enforce) but since we were batting quick runs were required not slow batting which just took up time.
 
Saj said:
Pakistan don't force the advantage when the opposition is down.

In the first innings they were 222-2 (69.3 ovs) and then crawled to 244-3 (86.5 ovs). I mean 22 runs in 17 overs is just pathetic.
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More matches will be drawn or lost unless a few attacking batsmen are played Umar Akmal should be a certain starter in these conditions to attack the bowling.
 
With Yasir struggling you need another genuine spinner around. Hafeez and Bilal are decent options for the third spinner role. They never have been the key spinner for their teams.

Some good spinners like Gohar, Asghar and Kashif Bhatti haven't had a chance yet which is a pity. In the UAE you'd rather have extra spinners than not having enough. You can not rely on part timers.

It costed us the SL series and it will cost us the Aus series as well.
 
Couldn't get Khawaja out cheaply in either innings is the real reason,
 
Only one person is to blame here that is captain mr.useless who has been just awful in every aspect of the game whether it's field placements or tactics and his own performance.He is garbage at everything apart from shouting at his own players.
 
Poor captaincy did not give any confidence to bowlers.
 
I think the decision to not enforce follow on was one of the major reasons. This also stems from the fact that Pakistan are worried about batting 4th chasing any target set by the opposition. Also the batting in the first innings was poor, so was the bowling of Wahab Riaz.
 
Saj said:
Pakistan don't force the advantage when the opposition is down.

In the first innings they were 222-2 (69.3 ovs) and then crawled to 244-3 (86.5 ovs). I mean 22 runs in 17 overs is just pathetic.
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Defensive mindset to blame, batting ,bowling and importantly captaincy was just awful.
 
giri26 said:
I think the decision to not enforce follow on was one of the major reasons. This also stems from the fact that Pakistan are worried about batting 4th chasing any target set by the opposition. Also the batting in the first innings was poor, so was the bowling of Wahab Riaz.
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You dont enforce follow on UAE wickets and in thst heat. Nobody does that. Unless you bowl a team out in 20-30 overs, have a cushion of 350 or so runs and your bowlers are very fresh. Its almost comical to think a team will enforce follow on on these dead wickets.

Like i said earlier... you can dissect this test as much as you want.. and nitpick what could have been.. but the bottomline is the aussies batted well and showed a lot of heart.
 
Shandarchowka said:
Where is the denial? The pitch didn't break enough in the last innings. How do you think Aussies batter the way they did?
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If you place 5 fielders at the boundary, then its easy to bat like Australia even on a 5th day pitch.
 
A lack of patience is what did it. Never stuck to any plans. Yasir kept on switching between around the wicket and over the wicket like a kid who can only buy one toy but found two he really wants.

Should have either persisted around the wicket bowling into the rough against Khawaja despite reverse sweep with few guys waiting for top edge, or should have stayed over the wicket to the lefties which gave him bit of success (the Khawaja inside edge).

He was also really impatient with Bilal Asif, constantly changing the fields, not really giving him a chance to build pressure. Even with the quality of bowling we saw, we could have still taken 10 wickets.

And why they didn't declare earlier is still beyond me.
 
crick fan said:
How about not enforcing the follow on! Took the lazy and defensive path
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This! The defensive path worked well under Misbah as he had the patience to keep his plans and wear out the opposition. Sarfraz is no Misbah and should've enforced the follow on
 
daytrader said:
This! The defensive path worked well under Misbah as he had the patience to keep his plans and wear out the opposition. Sarfraz is no Misbah and should've enforced the follow on
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Enforcing the follow on may have seen Australia bat better than they did and give us a target of 150-200 which could have become a winning target if they get few quick wickets and Lyon clicked. However, they should have declared earlier in the second innings. If Sarfraz though that Australia could chase the target down in 5 and a half sessions then he really mustn't have had faith in his bowlers.

Also, Sarfraz should learn from Misbah in the sense that you need to persist with plans to see them pay off. You can't bowl six variations/over expecting to take a wicket!
 
I just caught the rerun of the day’s play. Looked like there was no team planning - for the most part Sarfaraz looked complacent & was happy to contain the runs till things started going south. And obviously they elected not to enforce follow-on thinking that the pitch will start spinning in the 4th innings - but without have a second specialist spinner. Will blame both the captain & coach for their stupidity.
 
dildilpak said:
I just caught the rerun of the day’s play. Looked like there was no team planning - for the most part Sarfaraz looked complacent & was happy to contain the runs till things started going south. And obviously they elected not to enforce follow-on thinking that the pitch will start spinning in the 4th innings - but without have a second specialist spinner. Will blame both the captain & coach for their stupidity.
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Bilal was the second specialist spinner. But you're right, they just waited for a collapse.
 
Should have declared a little bit early.

Should have tried Bilal and Asif a bit more in the last session than Abbas.
 
Follow on is overrated. If OZ had batted with the same resolve, Pakistani bowlers would have ended up bowling minimum of 220 overs on the trot with

1. abbas bowling - 46 overs
2. yasir - 72 overs
3. bilal - 59 overs
 
Dr_Bassim said:
If you place 5 fielders at the boundary, then its easy to bat like Australia even on a 5th day pitch.
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Yes that can be right. But don't you think the pitch hasn't broken enough on 5th day? We need more competitive pitches which will widen the different between good and bad batsmen.
 
Shandarchowka said:
Yes that can be right. But don't you think the pitch hasn't broken enough on 5th day? We need more competitive pitches which will widen the different between good and bad batsmen.
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It had enough for Yasir to suddenly bowl Pakistan close to victory.

There are actually 3 things which decided the match.

1. Yasir bowling poorly till almost the end of day 5 when he finally got it right.
2. Sarfraz bowling a defenisve field because of being worried about 462 being chased.
3. Lack of genuine 2nd spinner.

This pitch was not a raging turner but questionable captaincy and lack of bowling options ensured that even a day 5 pitch seemed docile most of the day.

The sort of desperation Pakistan had in last hour should have been seen the entire day.
 
Bilal7 said:
Well, I don't know, maybe Australia were absolutely superb in the fourth innings? They are an international team too, you know?

Before the match started, I said that anything less than a crushing whitewash would be a loss for Pakistan but after seeing the heart this Aussie side showed, I'm not even disappointed. Pakistan did nothing wrong, Australia just deserved a draw.

However, the next game HAS to be won.
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Yes. Anything less than a crushing 1-0 would be a loss for Pakistan.
 
Pathetic captaincy
Lack of a spinner who made the team on bowling merit to support Yasir
Poor bowling from Wahab and Yasir.
 
People have to keep things in perspective.

Yes Wahab was a bad selection and yes a short gully could have been placed to stop Khauja from playing the reverse sweep BUT if the wicket had the any pace in it then does anyone here really believe that Starc and Lyon would not have picked up more wickets?

The wicket has to take the majority of the blame here
 
1)Substandard bowling.
2)Pitch
3)Selection

Wahab even at his best is PSL standard, so don't know what he was doing playing international Cricket. Not playing two genuine spinners was another blunder.
 
Pitch, pitch and pitch. It's very hard to win matches on a pitch, where no:10 batsman can easily play spinners on 5th day.
 
As an Indian I must say that:

-The Pakistani batsmen- Imam Shafiq and Sohail batted very slowly (SR 40s) in the 1st innings. On such a flat pitch you should have a strike rate of at least 60-70. It looked as if they were looking to score for themselves instead of accelerating for the team’s cause. If you look at great batsmen, they generally score quickly on flat wickets and take their time initially on tough wickets and then catch up much later if they can survive the initial period.

-Wahab should retire. Pakistan have a factory of quicks so they don’t need him. Speed is hopeless without accuracy.

-Sarfaraz’s captaincy is too defensive, he’s still in the Asia cup mode trying to save runs when he’s over 400 runs ahead on a wearing pitch.

Pakistan otherwise would have won in the 2nd session on day 5.

Check out the strike rates of the Indian batsmen against West Indies for the 1st test on a similar flat track. Every main batsman had a strike rate of over 60.
 
There were many poor aspects of the game but I'd say the main reasons we failed to win was poor use of DRS and poor bowling, should be able to bowl out an Australian side in a day and a bit. Yes, Australia batted well but on a day 4-5 pitch I would expect our bowling attack to take 10 wickets.
 
giri26 said:
I think the decision to not enforce follow on was one of the major reasons. This also stems from the fact that Pakistan are worried about batting 4th chasing any target set by the opposition. Also the batting in the first innings was poor, so was the bowling of Wahab Riaz.
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I don't get this obsession of Pakistani captains not to enforce the follow-on.

You have the opposition on the ropes and instead of hammering home the advantage, you bat again, lose a few early wickets and help to lift the opposition's morale.
 
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Saj said:
I don't get this obsession of Pakistani captains not to enforce the follow-on.

You have the opposition on the ropes and instead of hammering home the advantage, you bat again, lose a few early wickets and help to lift the opposition's morale.
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Give the bowlers a rest?

Not have to bat on Day 5? (In hindsight, a good idea).
 
ManFan said:
Give the bowlers a rest?

Not have to bat on Day 5? (In hindsight, a good idea).
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But it's not like Pakistan had bowled hundreds of overs in the first innings. They bowled 83.3 overs in total.

As for not having to bat on Day 5, the mindset should be to win by an innings on day 4 :)
 
Saj said:
But it's not like Pakistan had bowled hundreds of overs in the first innings. They bowled 83.3 overs in total.

As for not having to bat on Day 5, the mindset should be to win by an innings on day 4 :)
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True but the conditions were hot, it depends on the bowling and weather conditions. On flat pitches I am sure bowlers would prefer a bit of a rest before doing it again. But again had Sarfaraz attacked throughout Day 4 and Day 5 like he did in the final session, considerably high chances we might have won.
 
One honest question - and I want an honest answer as well.

Q: Which is the more dumber Captaincy - MoYo at SCG (2010) or Sarfraz at Dubai (2018)?


I start with my personal opinion - Sarfraz.

Though MoYo lost that Test after a 200+ lead (only 6 times teams have lost after a 200+ lead, 3 times bowling in 3rd innings of the game, and 3 times after following on). But, he had some excuses as well - playing away & at one of the toughest place to play cricket against hosts - AUS. Then he was hard done by his WKeeper and fielders, and most importantly, AUS was setting target there in 3rd innings & Mike Hussey anchored the innings from one end. His batsmen (including himself) failed to chase 170ish target, otherwise still he could have won that Test - it was equally a batting failure as well.

Here this Sarfraz chap had 280 lead on a slow turning wicket with 200 overs left in game when his team started 2nd innings, against a team as bad as MoYo's opponent were as good in respective condition, exhausted in the desert heat, still not acclimatized with Dubai wicket & FC games (their domestic FC season hasn't started yet), under (or over) prepared from 67 overs of Iftekhar;s spin - and they had absolutely no chance of winning the game on last innings; only thing left for them was a hopeless rear guard to save the game & they did that, because of the ineptness of PAK Captain. On Day 5, it was AUS in control of the game for like 5 of the 6 hours, and Sarfraz just went through the motion, and led his side like they were trying to save the game.

Discuss pls ....
 
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1. Poor, defensive and unmotivated captaincy.
2. Didn’t bowl Abbas for the first hour of day 5.
3. Poor review calls.

Sarfraz gotta go as he doesn’t contribute in any way except yelling and screaming.
 
MMHS said:
One honest question - and I want an honest answer as well.

Q: Which is the more dumber Captaincy - MoYo at SCG (2010) or Sarfraz at Dubai (2018)?


I start with my personal opinion - Sarfraz.

Though MoYo lost that Test after a 200+ lead (only 6 times teams have lost after a 200+ lead, 3 times bowling in 3rd innings of the game, and 3 times after following on). But, he had some excuses as well - playing away & at one of the toughest place to play cricket against hosts - AUS. Then he was hard done by his WKeeper and fielders, and most importantly, AUS was setting target there in 3rd innings & Mike Hussey anchored the innings from one end. His batsmen (including himself) failed to chase 170ish target, otherwise still he could have won that Test - it was equally a batting failure as well.

Here this Sarfraz chap had 280 lead on a slow turning wicket with 200 overs left in game when his team started 2nd innings, against a team as bad as MoYo's opponent were as good in respective condition, exhausted in the desert heat, still not acclimatized with Dubai wicket & FC games (their domestic FC season hasn't started yet), under (or over) prepared from 67 overs of Iftekhar;s spin - and they had absolutely no chance of winning the game on last innings; only thing left for them was a hopeless rear guard to save the game & they did that, because of the ineptness of PAK Captain. On Day 5, it was AUS in control of the game for like 5 of the 6 hours, and Sarfraz just went through the motion, and led his side like they were trying to save the game.

Discuss pls ....
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Like you said, slow turning wicket. Slow turn with slow bounce makes it easier for the batting side to deal with. This Australian batting line up would have easily collapsed had they been playing in India.
 
BlackShadow said:
1)Substandard bowling.
2)Pitch
3)Selection

Wahab even at his best is PSL standard, so don't know what he was doing playing international Cricket. Not playing two genuine spinners was another blunder.
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I'd have to say

Selection
Pitch
Bowling
Captaincy

Poor use of DRS is not a problem if bowlers create enough chances.
Which clearly didn't happen. We did not see three oh-ah's every over.

Captaincy was poor, put I am unconvinced that simply putting more men around the bat would have worked. How many "I wish a third slip had been in place" moments did we see?

Bowling was poor, this has to be said, apart from Abbas. We were lucky that the Aussies played risky shots far outside off against Asif on the first day, but they learned their lesson fast enough. Doubtful whether he should start in the next game, but I suspect he will, because no better alternative is traveling with the squad. And his likely one off performance covered over the fact that we were lucky to get Aus out for so little in the second innings. Clearly the pitch got worse, but much worse?

Which leaves the question of selection. Could the bowling have been better? Well, that is quite clear. Yasir has had poor domestic form but has Pakistan's only Test match winner in recent years, until the emergence of Abbas. He could not be left out. And we see how poor we become when he does not perform.

Wahab is another matter. A complete dud in the match, and it could have been expected. He was never one to run through sides and has looked poor in recent games. If he had one function it was to pry out at least one or two wickets with a wearing ball, but Abbas was better at getting the ball to reverse.

And then, why no second specialist spinner? I was tearing my hair out looking at Bhatti's stats during the Test. He has incredibly domestic numbers is in superb form right now and should have been a shoe-in for selection. India is playing three specialist spinners in Hyderabad, Pakistan plays one in the UAE. Mickey really doesn't learn it seems.
 
MMHS said:
One honest question - and I want an honest answer as well.

Q: Which is the more dumber Captaincy - MoYo at SCG (2010) or Sarfraz at Dubai (2018)?


I start with my personal opinion - Sarfraz.

Though MoYo lost that Test after a 200+ lead (only 6 times teams have lost after a 200+ lead, 3 times bowling in 3rd innings of the game, and 3 times after following on). But, he had some excuses as well - playing away & at one of the toughest place to play cricket against hosts - AUS. Then he was hard done by his WKeeper and fielders, and most importantly, AUS was setting target there in 3rd innings & Mike Hussey anchored the innings from one end. His batsmen (including himself) failed to chase 170ish target, otherwise still he could have won that Test - it was equally a batting failure as well.

Here this Sarfraz chap had 280 lead on a slow turning wicket with 200 overs left in game when his team started 2nd innings, against a team as bad as MoYo's opponent were as good in respective condition, exhausted in the desert heat, still not acclimatized with Dubai wicket & FC games (their domestic FC season hasn't started yet), under (or over) prepared from 67 overs of Iftekhar;s spin - and they had absolutely no chance of winning the game on last innings; only thing left for them was a hopeless rear guard to save the game & they did that, because of the ineptness of PAK Captain. On Day 5, it was AUS in control of the game for like 5 of the 6 hours, and Sarfraz just went through the motion, and led his side like they were trying to save the game.

Discuss pls ....
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K. Akmal and perhaps others made damn sure Pakistan lost that Sydney test in ver suspicious looking circumstances. Don't you expect a keeper who catches a throw cleanly to- even after a few seconds of though- actually move his hands towards the stumps if he intends to effect the run out? Let alone drop 3/4 catches.
 
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