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Why do you need Imad Wasim, when Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik and Haris Sohail can bowl 10 overs?

Kohli The King of Chase

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"PLEASE READ THE WHOLE POST"

I AM NOT ASKING TO KEEP MALIK AND HAFEEZ IN THE TEAM. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE DECIDED TO PLAY BOTH, then why don't you drop Imad and bring in Haris

Hafeez, Malik and Haris can easily bowl 10, and you get an extra batsman, Haris.

Above all, Hafeez , Malik and Haris can attest spin the ball.

This team looks lot better

Fakhar
Azhar/ Imam/ Sahibzada
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfraz * +(floater, comes in early if wickets fall.)

This gives you depth in the batting.

Simple equation:

HARIS IS MUCH BETTER BATSMAN THAN IMAD.

HAFEEZ IS MUCH BETTER SPINNER THAN IMAD, ABOVE ALL IS AN OFFIE.
 
Change it to why do you need Hafeez when you have the other 3. Malik makes the team on batting merit. Whilst Hafeez doesn't. Harris is a superior player so he should replace him.

Babar
Harris
Malik
Sarfraz

Malik and Sarfraz should alternate depending on the situation.
 
If it were upto me, I'd drop Azhar, Hafeez and Imad, and bring in, Sahibzada, Haris and Faheem.

And play this

Sahibzada
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz * +
Malik
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Rumman

Amir, Hassan , Rumman and Shadab to bowl 10 overs each.

Faheem, Haris and Malik to bowl remaining 10.
 
Change it to why do you need Hafeez when you have the other 3. Malik makes the team on batting merit. Whilst Hafeez doesn't. Harris is a superior player so he should replace him.

Babar
Harris
Malik
Sarfraz

Malik and Sarfraz should alternate depending on the situation.

That's why I've mentioned, WHEN YOU HAVE DECIDED TO PLAY HAFEEZ. HE'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. " SENIOR "
 
We don't need Imad tbh, he's more of a luxury. But we don't have many options to bat at 7 so he stays. Hafeez was a better bowler than Imad, not sure anymore, but you're right between Haris, Hafeez and Malik you could probably make up 10 overs quite easily. Imad does make the bowling attack a little stronger too so that's good.

I don't want Sarfraz at 7, he's arguably the best batsman in the team and will be wasted 7. He's not a great hitter as well so don't think he'll do a good job at 7 (and hasn't in the past).

Dropping Imad at this point doesn't necessarily make our batting order stronger due to lack of lower order batting options.
 
If it were upto me, I'd drop Azhar, Hafeez and Imad, and bring in, Sahibzada, Haris and Faheem.

And play this

Sahibzada
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz * +
Malik
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Rumman

Amir, Hassan , Rumman and Shadab to bowl 10 overs each.

Faheem, Haris and Malik to bowl remaining 10.

If Farhan lives up to the hype then this team can win the world cup, gives me goosebumps.

You have 2 hard hitting openers, then two of the best batsmen Pakistan has ever produced, the captain who won't eat up balls, then Malik and Faheem who are capable hitters, the tail is decent as well, haven't seen Rummans batting.

Excellent team, they really need to play faheem and harris more, its a travesty.
 
Because he is the new golden boy of Pakistan Cricket. His fitness is deteriorating day by day, batsmen are finding him much easier to play because he is a one trick pony. Yet, he continues to be an 'integral' part of the team.
 
faheem is better choice than Imad , because he is much better hitter.

Hafeez , harris , Malik , Babaar all can bowl , can easily share 15 - 20 overs a game.
 
I think Imad has a great batting record in ODI's and his bowling probably is a bonus. He also has bowled with the new ball in few T20 games which shows, the Pakistan think tank rates his bowling pretty highly. Anyways all three of them probably are batsman first and bowling is just an added bonus. If Pakistan can get 10 overs or sometimes even 20 overs from the three of them if your main spinner or fast bowler got carted around, it will be a bonus.
 
Imad is simply a better all rounder than Hafeez.Pakistan is needlessly carrying this old player.Hafeez is not destined to play next world cup.He is already 37. Let's groom a pace bowling all rounder in Faheem.
 
Imad is simply a better all rounder than Hafeez.Pakistan is needlessly carrying this old player.Hafeez is not destined to play next world cup.He is already 37. Let's groom a pace bowling all rounder in Faheem.

Agreed, but I still believe both Hafeez and Imad are needless. I will also drop Shehzad and groom a youngster like Sahibzada. Babar at 3, and Sarfraz should bat at 4. He is not a power hitter but plays run a ball kind of cricket so best suited for no 4. Harris should bat at 5 followed by Malik and Faheem. He should be followed by Shadab and three fast bowlers.

Sahibzada (wish we had Sharjeel)
Zaman
Azam
Sarfraz
Harris
Malik
Faheem/Nawaz (in subcontinent)
Shadab
Hassan
Aamir
Raees
 
Leave it to an Indian to weaken the second best bowling attack in the world. Pakistan's strength is bowling and we will not rely on part-timers to give us ten overs in a match.

The fifth bowler will be Imad or Faheem and then we can rely on Haris and/or Malik to cover for one of the front-line bowlers if needed.
 
If it were upto me, I'd drop Azhar, Hafeez and Imad, and bring in, Sahibzada, Haris and Faheem.

And play this

Sahibzada
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz * +
Malik
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Rumman

Amir, Hassan , Rumman and Shadab to bowl 10 overs each.

Faheem, Haris and Malik to bowl remaining 10.

This really potential to be One hell of an LOI side, but as always our selectors are there to make sure we never play at our Max potential with best available team.
 
This really potential to be One hell of an LOI side, but as always our selectors are there to make sure we never play at our Max potential with best available team.

:facepalm:

The best side is the one that won the CT. Not what some fan, who has never seen any of these guys in the nets or spoken to their coaches thinks it is.

Sahibzada is a nobody right now and apart from Haris, everyone else is already in the team.
 
"PLEASE READ THE WHOLE POST"

I AM NOT ASKING TO KEEP MALIK AND HAFEEZ IN THE TEAM. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE DECIDED TO PLAY BOTH, then why don't you drop Imad and bring in Haris

Hafeez, Malik and Haris can easily bowl 10, and you get an extra batsman, Haris.

Above all, Hafeez , Malik and Haris can attest spin the ball.

This team looks lot better

Fakhar
Azhar/ Imam/ Sahibzada
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfraz * +(floater, comes in early if wickets fall.)

This gives you depth in the batting.

Simple equation:

HARIS IS MUCH BETTER BATSMAN THAN IMAD.

HAFEEZ IS MUCH BETTER SPINNER THAN IMAD, ABOVE ALL IS AN OFFIE.

I don't understand why people don't see it; Imad is an absolute necessity to this team because of a multitude of reasons;

1) While he certainly is not up there with the best finishers in the world, he is certainly a massive upgrade over the likes we've had in the recent past, for example - Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti, Aamer Yamin, Saad Nasim and co.

It is these few runs he makes at the end of the order taking a few deliveries that really make the difference between the two sides and add pressure onto the the other team.

2) His bowling is an absolute necessity and all Non-Asian sides will have an extremely hard time playing him, as they have thus far. I can't believe how most fans have ignored his contributions in the CT win, especially in the South African game where he got AB who averages IIRC a 100 against us.

It is not HIS fault that he is usually underutilized and therefore, ends up with fewer wickets and high bowling averages. Even in the last game, he was given only 2 overs and that too not until the 40th over.

However, your demand of having Harris Sohail in the squad is absolutely valid and therefore, I think Mohammad Hafeez should make way for Harris because:

1) Harris Sohail, despite being a very good hitter compared to most of our batsmen, is NOT a finisher. And it would make absolutely ZERO sense for Harris Sohail to come in for Imad, who bats at 7/8. Babar has always batted in the middle-order and that is where the management can make best use of him.

Not only will a probably failure at 7/8 will lead to him being dropped and being labelled as a "Test" specialist but also the fact that PCT will have to persist with Hafeez forever.

2) Mohammad Hafeez, despite being on the back of a very good CT '17 Final performance is STILL an extremely average, 38 year old batsman and a liability to the team. He has bought himself some time with that innings but it is only a matter of time before he will be back to his usual best and he is already showing signs of it with his low scores in the first two ODI's vs Sri Lanka.

And not to mention it is only a matter of time before Hafeez gets called for chucking and gets banned AGAIN, only to play as a specialist "batsman".

Imad, Malik, Harris and Shadab are all absolute fundamentals to this team and need to be in the XI. Maybe Imad and Fahim Ashraf can replace each other for different kinds of pitches but no way in hell should any of these guys make way for Hafeez.
 
If you think about it Imad has no really spot in the Odi team regardless. T20 he is a very good player, but ODI he hasn’t produced the same magic. His batting isn’t the best, a bit hit and miss. Rather he went for Haris Sohail and Shehzad for Imam Ul Haq.
In the future we have a lot of options who can take Imads spot: Mohammad Asghar, Sohail Khan, Aamer Yamin, Bilal Asif to name a few, even Fahim Ashraf is waiting in the ranks for a proper opportunity. Apart from an exceptional economy rate, he’s rather one dimensional and against top teams he’s will go for runs, like he did against Australia and India. 26 wickets in 27 games isn’t great as he took 5 of those in 1 game.
 
No wildcards, no unseen potential, just the best side considering players already in the international domain:

1. Azhar
2. Zaman
3. Azam
4. Sarfraz
5. Malik
6. Haris
7. Hafeez
8. Shadab
9. Hassan
10. Amir
11. Raees / Khan

Good batting depth. Haris' inclusion will take the pressure of Malik. Haris and Malik to serve as sixth/seventh bowlers, but only if necessary.
 
I wonder if Sarfraz not bowling Imad and bowling Hafeez in this ODI suggests that he is leaning towards dropping him for Haris or just playing the conditions and opposition?
 
Agree. Bring in Harris Sohail and Fahim Ashraf and take out Imad Wasim and Ahmed Shezad. You have a much more balanced team with three part time spinners,
 
Change it to why do you need Hafeez when you have the other 3. Malik makes the team on batting merit. Whilst Hafeez doesn't. Harris is a superior player so he should replace him.

Babar
Harris
Malik
Sarfraz

Malik and Sarfraz should alternate depending on the situation.

SL has like millions of lefty’s, that’s why Hafeez is must in this series. He is too good against lefty’s to be dropped. Shezad and Immad are passenger. Harris and Fahim can replace them, bring more fire power, stability and balance to the team.
 
Hafeez
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Fahim
Shadab
Hassan
Rumman
Junaid
This team gives you at least 8 bowling options. 4 seamers and 4 spinners. Also a strong batting line up. Would love to see this team in the next match.
 
Imad just doesn't have the variety in his bowling to trouble quality batsman. He might be good enough for T20s but can't see his utility in the presence of Hafeez and Malik, which diminishes even further if we pick Haris (which we must). We'd be better off picking a seam bowling allrounder like Faheem or Yamin instead.
 
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