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Why don't the likes of Tamim Iqbal / Mushfiqur Rahim get IPL contracts?

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Looking at the list of names in the competition, surprised that these more than handy performers don't get a gig. What's the deal?

Tamim is an opening batsman attuned to spinning wickets which will make him a better contender than most 'videshi' openers, and Mushfiqur is one of the better keeper batsman going around right now.

Is the Bangladesh tag ruining it for them?
 
Varun said:
Looking at the list of names in the competition, surprised that these more than handy performers don't get a gig. What's the deal?

Tamim is an opening batsman attuned to spinning wickets which will make him a better contender than most 'videshi' openers, and Mushfiqur is one of the better keeper batsman going around right now.

Is the Bangladesh tag ruining it for them?
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If the Bangladeshi tag is ruining it, then why are Shakib and Mustafizur being selected?

Tamim and Mushfiqur are not good enough for T20Is.
 
Arsalan Pro said:
If the Bangladeshi tag is ruining it, then why are Shakib and Mustafizur being selected?
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I presume Shakib is considered elite by Bangladeshi standards, and Mustafiz has that shock value because of his exploits vs India in that 2015 ODI series. The latter certainly helps - it's why Sam Curran won such a high amount this year.
 
Varun said:
I presume Shakib is considered elite by Bangladeshi standards, and Mustafiz has that shock value because of his exploits vs India in that 2015 ODI series. The latter certainly helps - it's why Sam Curran won such a high amount this year.
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Okay, but when players like B McCullum, A Hales, J Root, H Amla e.t.c are not selected why would they be?
 
Arsalan Pro said:
Okay, but when players like B McCullum, A Hales, J Root, H Amla e.t.c are not selected why would they be?
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McCullum was one of the IPL's earliest performers and has made a lot of money and fame for his efforts, starting from the very first game. He's obviously not selected now as he is seen to be over the hill. Hales likewise has played for Mumbai Indians. Amla too plays IPL.

Tamim and Mushfiqur have never been considered full stop. That's what I am finding strange.
 
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Market forces

Many foreign players even better than these two have missed out. You can’t comiare the situation with Indian players. As 7 Indians are to play in each team every squad aims to have at least 12-13 Indians. That makes up for an Indian talent pool of around 100 cricketers. Every team will fight till death to have their hands on the best talent out there.

Foreigners only have to fill 4 spots and most teams have those locked with max 6 players who are mostly top of the top available in the market. It’s a tough competition.
 
Poor guys even reduced their base price in hope of getting picked but gets rejected every year. My heart bleeds looking at this injustice...uuffff :(
 
Varun said:
Looking at the list of names in the competition, surprised that these more than handy performers don't get a gig. What's the deal?

Tamim is an opening batsman attuned to spinning wickets which will make him a better contender than most 'videshi' openers, and Mushfiqur is one of the better keeper batsman going around right now.

Is the Bangladesh tag ruining it for them?
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Openers are dime a dozen and you have bowlers like Narine doin well as openers ,Tamim has no chance of playing ahead of other overseas players . Same with Mushfiq , in T20s you dont need specialist WK , when you can make do with some one like KL rahul why spend on a overseas player ?
 
Not sure about Tamim (slow pace, competition) but Mushfiqur and Mahmudullah would have been handy picks, at least at their base price. The teams have too many non Asian mentors and decision makers, even Lankans are being discriminated against especially if you consider the many bits and pieces Aussies these franchises pick.
 
They are just not good enough (Read : They don't meet the requirements of the teams ). Tamim plays too slow to be an IPL opener and Mushfiq is a wicket keeper. There is no demand for overseas wicket keepers unless they are destructive with the bat (like Buttler).
All this talk on social media of ''Being a Bangladeshi is ruining their chances" is utter nonsense.
 
Teams prefer to have Indian openers or international superstars such as Warner and Finch opening.

Also teams prefer Indian keepers. Mushifqar won't be chosen as a specialist bowler or batter when you can only pick 4 overseas players.
 
With Tamim although he's a gifted batsman he's very selfish. Doesn't deserve a pick.

I actually think Mushfiqur could consider himself unlucky, if he was playing for a more prominent side he would probably get picked given the fact that he's currently the best Asian wicket keeper batsman.
 
Useless no name players get picked but not Mushfiqur?

Did shahzad get picked? He would hav been explosive.
 
IPL is an abomination. People who run it has little to no understanding about cricket. There's a reason why tons of mediocore Australian players get picked but a player of roots caliber remains unpicked.

Glad to see that our players aren't playing in this league. It almost destroyed our best fast bower fizz. I'd be really happy if fizz also doesn't get picked anymore.
 
RainMan_ said:
IPL is an abomination. People who run it has little to no understanding about cricket. There's a reason why tons of mediocore Australian players get picked but a player of roots caliber remains unpicked.

Glad to see that our players aren't playing in this league. It almost destroyed our best fast bower fizz. I'd be really happy if fizz also doesn't get picked anymore.
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But what about fans like me bro....who would love to see them playing in our league? This humiliation IPL dishing out to legendary players like Mushy and Tamim year after year, has made me so sad. After all I am BD well wisher, remember?
 
It depends on teams combination & their coaches opinion about certain player.

mushfiqur lost to Bairstow,klassen,pooran.
Even ronchi didn't get picked despite his full time availability and red hot form.

Tamim had no chance anyway considering more fierce competition In batsman pool.
 
Difficult to explain. While the point about market forces and team requirements being the decisive forces is true, imagine the huge BD market that gets opened if we have more BD players in IPL. Maybe that market is not yet strong enough for IPL and the IPL think tank is happy with what the Indian market offers.

With a strong economy and sustainable high GDP growth, in 3-4 years time BD could potentially be a money spinner for IPL. KKR or SRH could then add couple of other BD players and think of even playing some of their home games in Dhaka. Will be a win win for everyone - fans, both the boards and obviously the brand IPL.
 
RainMan_ said:
IPL is an abomination. People who run it has little to no understanding about cricket. There's a reason why tons of mediocore Australian players get picked but a player of roots caliber remains unpicked.

Glad to see that our players aren't playing in this league. It almost destroyed our best fast bower fizz. I'd be really happy if fizz also doesn't get picked anymore.
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How on earth can a league destroy a player? :facepalm:
 
Stalin said:
Well ..whose fault is that?
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IPL... for over taxing the Bangladeshi players beyond their physical capacity... be it bench warming or playing number of games.

Remember how Sakib had to miss out the test matches during the South Africa tour due to "tiredness". He was too knackered from warming the bench and the occasional game that year... IPL must start providing comfortable bench seats to the Bangladeshi players!!
 
Not sure about Tamim but we all know why Muhfiq dost not get picked.
 
Stalin said:
How on earth can a league destroy a player? :facepalm:
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It's quite simple brother. IPL is unnecessarily too long and puts too much physical pressure on players, especially on fast bowlers. I will distribute sweets to my neighbours the day the special window that IPL enjoys will get abolished by ICC.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
But what about fans like me bro....who would love to see them playing in our league? This humiliation IPL dishing out to legendary players like Mushy and Tamim year after year, has made me so sad. After all I am BD well wisher, remember?
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Nothing can be done here dude. It's necessary for us to preserve our valuable players from the abomination called IPL. BTW, nobody is getting humiliated here since everyone knows that those who run the these franchisees know little to nothing about quality players which is why they prefer many mediocore Aussie players over players like Root.

It's better for players like mushy and Tamim that they aren't taking part in the circus called IPL. Even our board is thinking about banning Shakib from taking the part in more than one foreign league to keep him fresh for international matches.
 
Tamim is a good ODI player but not a good T20 bat. Mushfiqur's cheap antics against India means he will never be selected in IPL.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
Poor guys even reduced their base price in hope of getting picked but gets rejected every year. My heart bleeds looking at this injustice...uuffff :(
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Yeah, they reduced their base price so cheap just to get a foot in the door. However, not to worry brother Canford Cliffs, hopefully they stay more focused for the World Cup than IPL.
 
RainMan_ said:
Nothing can be done here dude. It's necessary for us to preserve our valuable players from the abomination called IPL. BTW, nobody is getting humiliated here since everyone knows that those who run the these franchisees know little to nothing about quality players which is why they prefer many mediocore Aussie players over players like Root.

It's better for players like mushy and Tamim that they aren't taking part in the circus called IPL. Even our board is thinking about banning Shakib from taking the part in more than one foreign league to keep him fresh for international matches.
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By Root do you mean Joe Root? He is not regular even in Eng T20 side and was dropped in India series. So his ommission is expected brother. But Mushy, being a legendary player from powerhouse team gets rejected every single year even after lowering his base price is ultimate humiliation. Personally I am heart broken for this snub. Its better if Mushy withdraws his name from next season and realizes that IPL dont rate him at all.
 
Tamim isn't great in T20 , Mushi is good but I guess negativity around him could be a reason but shouldn't be an issue for him to get into Southern teams ideally RCB not sure why he isn't selected also are they available for.majority of the season?
 
JaDed said:
Tamim isn't great in T20 , Mushi is good but I guess negativity around him could be a reason but shouldn't be an issue for him to get into Southern teams ideally RCB not sure why he isn't selected also are they available for.majority of the season?
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Why southern?? Can you explain??
 
Stalin said:
Why southern?? Can you explain??
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Yeah I don't think it makes a difference. The IPL teams are like spaghetti on a bad day - mix and match regardless of the consistency.
 
I reckon the reason why Mushy doesn't get picked is because of his antics on Twitter with his bhangra over India losing that semi against WI during the 2016 WT20. That isn't going to get you far with the cricket's top dog.
 
topspin said:
I reckon the reason why Mushy doesn't get picked is because of his antics on Twitter with his bhangra over India losing that semi against WI during the 2016 WT20. That isn't going to get you far with the cricket's top dog.
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Does this matter to IPL teams? Andrew Symonds got picked - they care about marketability, not any bad blood there might have been prior.

If anything, I'd argue that Mushfiqur's antics have made him more memorable to the Indian public.
 
Varun said:
Does this matter to IPL teams? Andrew Symonds got picked - they care about marketability, not any bad blood there might have been prior.

If anything, I'd argue that Mushfiqur's antics have made him more memorable to the Indian public.
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Symonds was a one off on-field incident involving an Indian player.

But what Mushfiqur did made him look childish (as his baby face) and unmarketable. If a player holds that kind of image, IPL teams will go for players who are far more marketable not for those who are merely controversial.
 
Tamim is a fantastic ODI player but in T20 franchises would prefer somebody more aggressive like Munro, Finch, Warner etc.

Mushfiqur deserved a chance though as I think he has the capability to be a reliable middle order batsmen.
 
To put things into perspective: Last 4 years ODI against top teams with minimum 30 innings.

Tamim SR is mediocre, while Mushy seemed to have good SR.

Tamim Mushy.jpg
 
I don't know much about Tamim in T20 - cricinfo stats did show that he is not the best in that format. His is better in odi/test. But if you ask me, he probably would not be a bad buy for a IPL team seeing how consistent he has been. Mushfiqur is public enemy for lots of indians, kinda says alot on the snob. And the amount of time I saw this guy bat in T20, definitely was not impressed. this format is definitely not his strength.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
By Root do you mean Joe Root? He is not regular even in Eng T20 side and was dropped in India series. So his ommission is expected brother. But Mushy, being a legendary player from powerhouse team gets rejected every single year even after lowering his base price is ultimate humiliation. Personally I am heart broken for this snub. Its better if Mushy withdraws his name from next season and realizes that IPL dont rate him at all.
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Mushfiqur has a T20I average of 20.65 at a strike rate of 119.95 and is borderline unuseable behind the stumps given how remarkably awful his keeping is, not exactly surprising he got left out is it. Root would clearly have been a sure pick last year if he wasn't unavailable for over half the tournament.
 
Not world class players but if guys like Keemo Paul, Rutherford gets picked and some third class Aus cricketers, I am not sure what our boys are doing wrong

Bangladesh have won 3 of the last 5 matches against West Indies.
 
Tamim scored a gargantuan 141 in the BPL final last night.

Just sayin'
 
Tamim was picked in IPL before but he didn't perform well. Even now, his SR is not so good to be an IPL opener. IPL wants Hollywood batsmen who can smash the ball in the PP overs like Gayle or Lewis.

Mushfiq is another accumulator. Even if his SR is 200, he won't be selected because of his cringeworthy behavior with Indians over the years. Shakib and Fizz are good and hence part of IPL.
 
Varun said:
Does this matter to IPL teams? Andrew Symonds got picked - they care about marketability, not any bad blood there might have been prior.

If anything, I'd argue that Mushfiqur's antics have made him more memorable to the Indian public.
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Symonds was there because of IPL's fascination with Aussies. Also he did great with DC when Rohit and Gilly were part of that team.and won in SA.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Useless no name players get picked but not Mushfiqur?

Did shahzad get picked? He would hav been explosive.
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Varun said:
Looking at the list of names in the competition, surprised that these more than handy performers don't get a gig. What's the deal?

Tamim is an opening batsman attuned to spinning wickets which will make him a better contender than most 'videshi' openers, and Mushfiqur is one of the better keeper batsman going around right now.

Is the Bangladesh tag ruining it for them?
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As for Mushfiqur, remember this?

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Teams are supposed to pay players who the fans will root for, not those who have alienated the fans.
 
Mushi has improved as an odi player
But in t20is his stats are mediocre
Who will take a WKB who has SR of 119 and averages 20 with the bat?

Tamim Iqbal has a SR of 116 and average of 23
So again nothing speical about him

There is a reason BD is ranked 10th in t20is below likes of Afg

Their players are just not that in the t20 format as they are in Odis

If BD tag was the reason then Even Shakib,Fizz and Mashrafe/ Razzaq/Ashraful(in the early seasons) would not have got picked
 
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I think Tamim was selected by an IPL team a few years but was benched for the whole season. He is a far better player now. Deserves a spot

Mushfiq is a very good player but his previous antics means he is effectively banned from the IPL.
 
As the IPL expands and BD matures as a nation (and goes past Pakistan economically), I think we will almost certainly see at least one Dhaka team in the IPL.

I expect a 2-team expansion in the next cycle in 2022 and then another 6 teams and additional month in the schedule (either September or March) in 2027 (and expansion into BD and SL potentially).
 
Tamim never got the chance to perform in the IPL, like others mentioned he was picked and benched the entire season while his team was flopping. Ganguly was the captain and never picked him
 
Tamim Iqbal is a poor T20 batsman. He can get a pass in ODIs where finishers can make up for his poor strike rate. Not in T20s.
 
rhony said:
Tamim was picked in IPL before but he didn't perform well. Even now, his SR is not so good to be an IPL opener. IPL wants Hollywood batsmen who can smash the ball in the PP overs like Gayle or Lewis.

Mushfiq is another accumulator. Even if his SR is 200, he won't be selected because of his cringeworthy behavior with Indians over the years. Shakib and Fizz are good and hence part of IPL.
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Tamim was picked up by Pune Warriors India but he didn't play a game.
 
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