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Why Foreign Tourists Hate India but Love Pakistan?

Cover Drive Six said:
Guess who’s talking about conversions, lol.
Many old mosques were built over temples and are still standing today.
Islamists should be the last people to lecture others about converting religious shrines , they’re the ones who turned countless ancient temples into rubble. Even the historic Hagia Sophia church was converted into a mosque.
The irony writes itself.
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No Indian who loses composure whenever India is rightly criticized has ever explained why anyone who criticizes India must automatically be a “religious extremist.”

The only logical explanation is projection, they’re simply mirroring their own far right extremist mindset onto others. To justify their own intolerance, they label anyone who calls them out as “extremists.”

You’ll have to do better than that, because everyone can see right through the act.

And I appreciate, ironically, you’re only reinforcing the very point being made, you’re not angry at your fellow Indians, you’re angry that vloggers are showing the world a better experience in Pakistan, and y'all are unable to digest that very fact.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You should thank those yogis who are still protecting and preserving Taj mahal, unlike you guys, who either convert them into religious shrines or turn them into toilets.
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I doubt these Yogis are cleaning the Taj.

Use google or ask your teacher. Who built it? Also what are the top 10 attractions in India visited by foreign tourists?
 
Cleanliness, hospitality, courteousness and protectiveness toward women so they feel safe, being able to enjoy beef without fear

Etc. Seen plenty of poor experiences of folks online regarding India. Scams happen in both countries, but worse in India. Pakistani vendors and owners also have bigger hearts and just let the tourists eat for free on many many occasions.

Big brother of Asia for a reason
 
KingKhanWC said:
I doubt these Yogis are cleaning the Taj.

Use google or ask your teacher. Who built it? Also what are the top 10 attractions in India visited by foreign tourists?
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No need to ask Google who built it, everyone already knows. My point is, you should at least thank those who are still protecting and preserving that structure, unlike you guys who convert historical places into religious shrines and built Mosques on Temples.
 
I guess the groundwork is being laid to rebrand the Taj Mahal as Modi’s Celibacy Mahal. They can't destroy it, it generates $$ so just rebrand it.
 
Suleiman said:
Cleanliness, hospitality, courteousness and protectiveness toward women so they feel safe, being able to enjoy beef without fear

Etc. Seen plenty of poor experiences of folks online regarding India. Scams happen in both countries, but worse in India. Pakistani vendors and owners also have bigger hearts and just let the tourists eat for free on many many occasions.

Big brother of Asia for a reason
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:salute

 
Cover Drive Six said:
No need to ask Google who built it, everyone already knows. My point is, you should at least thank those who are still protecting and preserving that structure, unlike you guys who convert historical places into religious shrines and built Mosques on Temples.
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So acc to you tourists visit Taj Mahal and see bald headed men in orange cleaning floors? Any pics of this?
 
HalBass9 said:
That is it?
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As I said, Pakistan’s tourism is practically non-existent. Forget foreign visitors, even established MNCs are leaving.
Why would anyone risk visiting a country where incidents like the burning of a Sri Lankan man and ongoing religious intolerance like attacking US embassy still make headlines?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
As I said, Pakistan’s tourism is practically non-existent. Forget foreign visitors, even established MNCs are leaving.
Why would anyone risk visiting a country where incidents like the burning of a Sri Lankan man and ongoing religious intolerance like attacking US embassy still make headlines?
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Ask the vloggers who are visiting, posting it on every social media and making you bent out of shape?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Pakistani Food > Indian Food

This isnt debatable. Tourists prefer Pak dishes over Indian too.

Karachi Biryani makes a mockery of Hyderabad biryani too.
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What does Pakistani cuisine have that is unique or different from other world cuisines ? Not much. Some people say nihari, but that's just a temu version of what Indians call curry. And even that has its origins in North India.
 
Lol didn’t expect captain to care about what white folks think , is it Shehbaz Shariff effect?
 
The world bank data seems to back up this thread ..

India is lagging behind both Paksitan and Bangladesh in tourism receipt...never let data come in the way of propaganda and agenda

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KingKhanWC said:
According to Google, top 5 attractions in India.

"The top five attractions in India are the Taj Mahal, Golden Temple (Harmandir Sahib), Agra Fort, Qutub Minar, and the Kerala backwaters."

How many of these are Hindu?
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I mean the entire Paksitan state is converted Hindu citizens of Hindustan..so I don't know what your point is..
 
Hikaru said:
Pakistanis seem to live in their own bubble where five or six of them (all equally delusional) create an alternate reality where Pakistan is seen as something it's not even remotely close to in the real world.

This forum is one such congregation. These same posters have been doing it for decades, every single day. Its almost as if all this effort is to make up for the self-esteem they lack in real life.
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Have you seen their media ...taking about hacking Indian railways and power grid

Their dgispr - claiming India attacked Afghanistan and Amritsar


Their pm sharing Chinese missiles to felicitate Munir as field marshall

Their country s air bases and terrorist assets destroyed ..and these jokers are celebrating it as a victory

Their pm and field marshall using crypto and Nobel Peace prize to curry transient favor and these jokers think Pakistan is the most visited tourist spot in western world..while they and their Muslim brethrens either blow themselves up or groom women
 
JaDed said:
Lol didn’t expect captain to care about what white folks think , is it Shehbaz Shariff effect?
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White folk dominate thinking in white countries, which is where I live. I can't really give a perspective from an Asian POV, and to be perfectly honest, we don't really get much of one from those who post from Asia either. They are too busy parroting western tropes like terrorism or bin Laden nonsense from 20 years ago.
 
RexRex said:
What does Pakistani cuisine have that is unique or different from other world cuisines ? Not much. Some people say nihari, but that's just a temu version of what Indians call curry. And even that has its origins in North India.
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All the meat ones. The BBQ to meat curries esp the Karahi are top notch. I've tried various Indian curries, they put in some strange weird tasting spices, not nice at all. Many foods may be similar but Pakistan has perfected them to taste better. One of the most popular Indian foods is dosa, this is a starter in Pakistan like some spring roll
 
While I don't agree with the tonality of this thread, it is in-fact a disgrace that tourists were raped on their bike trip and such incidents happen in 2025. Pakistan is not the metric for us in any sense as it’s just another nation at the bottom of the pyramid. Even Srilanka has well maintained tourism industry.

We should improve our security first and police response time should be better. Investments in Tourism infrastructure should be encouraged. I am witnessing that in Andhra Pradesh and haven't followed it across other states. But, India is such a diverse nation that one can find from extreme desert spots to well maintained beaches and backwater lakes, snowy mountains and monsoon weathers all along the year.

We are far off from actively become a true tourist destination but atleast push some resources to improve safety aspects.
 
KingKhanWC said:
The BBQ to meat curries esp the Karahi are top notch. I've tried various Indian curries, they put in some strange weird tasting spices, not nice at all. Many foods may be similar but Pakistan has perfected them to taste better. One of the most popular Indian foods is dosa, this is a starter in Pakistan like some spring roll
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Dosa is a breakfast dish and neither a main-course dish nor a starter. India has wide variety of cuisines that changes for every 300-400 kms. I haven't tasted Pakistani dishes but in general, authentic dishes are hard to find and those you tasted may not be truly Indian dishes.

Tastes vary for people and India certainly offers more variety in both veg and non-veg. You seem to undermine vegetarian dishes but there is a big segment catering to it.
 
KingKhanWC said:
All the meat ones. The BBQ to meat curries esp the Karahi are top notch. I've tried various Indian curries, they put in some strange weird tasting spices, not nice at all. Many foods may be similar but Pakistan has perfected them to taste better. One of the most popular Indian foods is dosa, this is a starter in Pakistan like some spring roll
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I've tasted Pak cuisines in several Gulf states. It comes off good on some days especially nihari but on other days it's just the normal fare..

Was it Ian Botham who once said - 'You don’t eat Pakistani food — you train for it 🤭
 
Theanonymousone said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1980182401650192452

While PPers are content by sharing some basket cases, here is a contrasting one. “India is an absolute must”
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Even Fawad Alam would receive the same treatment as Peterson, that’s not what’s being debated here.

India is undeniably a must visit destination, from its rich historical sites and stunning regional landscapes to its unmatched South Indian cuisine.

The real concern arises when ordinary tourists experience how they’re treated by the people during their travels in India.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Dosa is a breakfast dish and neither a main-course dish nor a starter. India has wide variety of cuisines that changes for every 300-400 kms. I haven't tasted Pakistani dishes but in general, authentic dishes are hard to find and those you tasted may not be truly Indian dishes.

Tastes vary for people and India certainly offers more variety in both veg and non-veg. You seem to undermine vegetarian dishes but there is a big segment catering to it.
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In general, I think Pakistani restaurants (at least in the UK) treat the red meats better - lamb, beef... Indian cuisines tend to use too many spices.

However, they're terrible at vegetarian and seafood. All the Indian cuisines do vegetarian better and of course all the Indian coastal regions do awesome seafood. They also lack the variety of flavours in Indian - especially influences like North Eastern (which is closer to Easy Asian), Bengali, Portugese (Goan and Mangalorean) and South Indian.

They also of course don't do pork while India does it in North Eastern, Goan and Coorgi varieties.
 
Red-Indian said:
In general, I think Pakistani restaurants (at least in the UK) treat the red meats better - lamb, beef... Indian cuisines tend to use too many spices.

However, they're terrible at vegetarian and seafood. All the Indian cuisines do vegetarian better and of course all the Indian coastal regions do awesome seafood. They also lack the variety of flavours in Indian - especially influences like North Eastern (which is closer to Easy Asian), Bengali, Portugese (Goan and Mangalorean) and South Indian.

They also of course don't do pork while India does it in North Eastern, Goan and Coorgi varieties.
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Pakistanis keep their meat dishes simple, no overwhelming use of spices, just the essentials.

My all-time favorite is Shinwari Chicken Karahi, made with only 5 ingredients, tomatoes, salt, green chili, and ghee.

Sri Lankans, on the other hand, have truly mastered the art of crafting incredible seafood using Indian inspired seasonings.
 
HalBass9 said:
Pakistanis keep their meat dishes simple, no overwhelming use of spices, just the essentials.

My all-time favorite is Shinwari Chicken Karahi, made with only 5 ingredients, tomatoes, salt, green chili, and ghee.

Sri Lankans, on the other hand, have truly mastered the art of crafting incredible seafood using Indian inspired seasonings.
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Yep... there's very little difference between Sri Lankan and Tamil coastal food. Both delicious! The Sri Lankans have refined it a bit recently.

I had one of the best seafood meals of my life 10 years ago at the Ministry of Crab (Sangakkara and Mahela's restaurant) 10 years ago in Colombo. I see they've opened a branch in Mumbai. Will have to make it there on my next trip.
 
Red-Indian said:
In general, I think Pakistani restaurants (at least in the UK) treat the red meats better - lamb, beef... Indian cuisines tend to use too many spices.

However, they're terrible at vegetarian and seafood. All the Indian cuisines do vegetarian better and of course all the Indian coastal regions do awesome seafood. They also lack the variety of flavours in Indian - especially influences like North Eastern (which is closer to Easy Asian), Bengali, Portugese (Goan and Mangalorean) and South Indian.

They also of course don't do pork while India does it in North Eastern, Goan and Coorgi varieties.
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Agree. Most of the red meat dishes including lamb available in Southern India are mostly from Muslim restaurants inspired from other regions.

The problem is our taste palette has become so conditioned that authentic food restaurants are running out of business due customers getting used to chain restaurants. Also, some of the local dishes take so much time to cool that commercialization of those is difficult particularly in low-income, high densely populated nations like India.

Dishes like Bamboo chicken, dried fish, prawns with sorrel leaves curries etc are sparsely available in Andhra now despite having a larger appeal.

But I think whats unique to India is the wide variety of vegetarian dishes. During client visits, most of them request for local vegetarian dishes in general.
 
Red-Indian said:
In general, I think Pakistani restaurants (at least in the UK) treat the red meats better - lamb, beef... Indian cuisines tend to use too many spices.

However, they're terrible at vegetarian and seafood. All the Indian cuisines do vegetarian better and of course all the Indian coastal regions do awesome seafood. They also lack the variety of flavours in Indian - especially influences like North Eastern (which is closer to Easy Asian), Bengali, Portugese (Goan and Mangalorean) and South Indian.

They also of course don't do pork while India does it in North Eastern, Goan and Coorgi varieties.
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Agree with you there, I am not a fan of Pakistani veg food, it is really bland. Indians do it much better. In fact just about every culture does it better. At least in the UK the veg dishes are terrible. But Pakistani food which is meat focused is up there with the best.

This thread has been severely knocked off track though, we already have a bajillion threads about Pak restaurants vs Indian but I will let this one pass.
 
What's not to love about Pakistan?

I'm sure the food alone is killer.
 
With that said, the OP itself is a classic coconut syndrome: "See the white people like me but not you. God save the King!"
 
RexRex said:
What does Pakistani cuisine have that is unique or different from other world cuisines ? Not much. Some people say nihari, but that's just a temu version of what Indians call curry. And even that has its origins in North India.
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You’ve definitely never tried Pakistan’s beef nihari or beef trotters you need too!

It’s not just about the dish itself, it’s about how it’s made. Indian food tends to be quite bland

That's why their are more authentic pakistani restraunts around the world than Indian ones because nobody want yo eat Indian food
 
Varun said:
With that said, the OP itself is a classic coconut syndrome: "See the white people like me but not you. God save the King!"
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Indians on Pakistani websites are weird. If I say something negative about Britain I am an Islamist or failing to integrate. If I say something positive then I am a coconut. What is really funny is that they find it hard to put the blame where it actually lies because in fact it is themselves who sing God save the King, they just don't want to admit it.
 
Theanonymousone said:
Dosa is a breakfast dish and neither a main-course dish nor a starter. India has wide variety of cuisines that changes for every 300-400 kms. I haven't tasted Pakistani dishes but in general, authentic dishes are hard to find and those you tasted may not be truly Indian dishes.

Tastes vary for people and India certainly offers more variety in both veg and non-veg. You seem to undermine vegetarian dishes but there is a big segment catering to it.
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I like veggie food. Its not the main ingrediants but the spices they use, some are way too strong. Not sure what they are called but Pakistani dishes seem milder and im not talking chilli.

Hope you get to check out some Pak food, ill try the dosa one day.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Indians on Pakistani websites are weird. If I say something negative about Britain I am an Islamist or failing to integrate. If I say something positive then I am a coconut. What is really funny is that they find it hard to put the blame where it actually lies because in fact it is themselves who sing God save the King, they just don't want to admit it.
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Varun is just frustrated, I advised him to apply for a visa to UK but he must have been rejected. Until then he wont understand the Brit Asian dynamic. Can you help him Cap?
 
KingKhanWC said:
I like veggie food. Its not the main ingrediants but the spices they use, some are way too strong. Not sure what they are called but Pakistani dishes seem milder and im not talking chilli.

Hope you get to check out some Pak food, ill try the dosa one day.
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I do want to try but haven't travelled much abroad. Tried few Turkish dishes and liked them.

Food and sports are some of the hobbies that unite people than divide them. No point in arguing which cuisines are better. Relishing the better ines takes the priority lol😁
 
Theanonymousone said:
I do want to try but haven't travelled much abroad. Tried few Turkish dishes and liked them.

Food and sports are some of the hobbies that unite people than divide them. No point in arguing which cuisines are better. Relishing the better ines takes the priority lol😁
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Im sure there are some great Indian foods but dosa isnt something that wets my appetite.

If you could choose the greatest Indian dish, what do you recommend?

Ive ate almost every single worldwide cuisine, travelling. It maybe due to the upbringing but nothing come close to Pakistani food
 
KingKhanWC said:
Im sure there are some great Indian foods but dosa isnt something that wets my appetite.

If you could choose the greatest Indian dish, what do you recommend?

Ive ate almost every single worldwide cuisine, travelling. It maybe due to the upbringing but nothing come close to Pakistani food
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Very tough question to answer, It's like saying name the greatest European dish and you'd have to choose between Italian, French, Spanish, Portugese etc. cuisines.

Tough to pick an absolute top but here would be my personal favourites. I'm leaving out Pork dishes and Punjabi/Haryanvi stuff you'd be pretty familiar with already. Also veg dishes since you guys seem to dislike them

Goan Fish Curry (Pomfret cooked with coconut and raw mango)
Laal Maas (Fiery Rajasthani meat curry usually made with Mutton or Lamb. I've eaten once made with wild boar)
Chicken Chettinad (Again fiery from Tamil Nadu)
Machher Jhol (Bengali fish curry cooked in mustard oil and uses freshwater fish - Hilsa or Rohu)
Chicken or Mutton Ghee Roast (Mangalorean...not too spicy but sinful as hell)
Beef Fry (From Kerala one of the few states that eats Beef)
Prawn Koliwada (Not as famous but being from Mumbai, I love them)

This should be a good start if you're interested but there's so many I've left out. I can't include a single North Eastern dish since almost everything I love has pork, I've picked nothing from Telangana/Andhra to avoid favouritism. Also didn't pick anything from Kashmir to avoid controversy. The best pure meat meal I've had in my life was the Wazwan at Ahdoos in Lal Chowk Srinagar and almost every item on there could be listed here.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Varun is just frustrated, I advised him to apply for a visa to UK but he must have been rejected. Until then he wont understand the Brit Asian dynamic. Can you help him Cap?
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Yes. My advice would be if you want to salute the British flag, you can start by saluting me.

:salute
 
KingKhanWC said:
Varun is just frustrated, I advised him to apply for a visa to UK but he must have been rejected. Until then he wont understand the Brit Asian dynamic. Can you help him Cap?
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Varun probably thinks people in west think like him. LOL.

This type of petty/stupid thought process is mostly present in India and nowhere else.
 
Red-Indian said:
Very tough question to answer, It's like saying name the greatest European dish and you'd have to choose between Italian, French, Spanish, Portugese etc. cuisines.

Tough to pick an absolute top but here would be my personal favourites. I'm leaving out Pork dishes and Punjabi/Haryanvi stuff you'd be pretty familiar with already. Also veg dishes since you guys seem to dislike them

Goan Fish Curry (Pomfret cooked with coconut and raw mango)
Laal Maas (Fiery Rajasthani meat curry usually made with Mutton or Lamb. I've eaten once made with wild boar)
Chicken Chettinad (Again fiery from Tamil Nadu)
Machher Jhol (Bengali fish curry cooked in mustard oil and uses freshwater fish - Hilsa or Rohu)
Chicken or Mutton Ghee Roast (Mangalorean...not too spicy but sinful as hell)
Beef Fry (From Kerala one of the few states that eats Beef)
Prawn Koliwada (Not as famous but being from Mumbai, I love them)

This should be a good start if you're interested but there's so many I've left out. I can't include a single North Eastern dish since almost everything I love has pork, I've picked nothing from Telangana/Andhra to avoid favouritism. Also didn't pick anything from Kashmir to avoid controversy. The best pure meat meal I've had in my life was the Wazwan at Ahdoos in Lal Chowk Srinagar and almost every item on there could be listed here.
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Those sound delicious. Would these dishes be found in a Bengali restaurant and Kerela dishes in a normal Indian place? I had a fish curry last night made by family. What type of fish they do use in Goan? Appreciate your response.
 
We can eliminate the Islam excuse from the cult by simply stating millions of White families are selling up shop and moving to Islamic countries in the ME. Heck, even the cult are, yet the trend is reversed in India, where even the cult are desperately trying to flee 'Incredible' India!
 
As for Indian dishes in the West. In the UK many Indian dishes are under spotlight after it was revealed certain manufacturers added the urine touch.
 
Red-Indian said:
Very tough question to answer, It's like saying name the greatest European dish and you'd have to choose between Italian, French, Spanish, Portugese etc. cuisines.

Tough to pick an absolute top but here would be my personal favourites. I'm leaving out Pork dishes and Punjabi/Haryanvi stuff you'd be pretty familiar with already. Also veg dishes since you guys seem to dislike them

Goan Fish Curry (Pomfret cooked with coconut and raw mango)
Laal Maas (Fiery Rajasthani meat curry usually made with Mutton or Lamb. I've eaten once made with wild boar)
Chicken Chettinad (Again fiery from Tamil Nadu)
Machher Jhol (Bengali fish curry cooked in mustard oil and uses freshwater fish - Hilsa or Rohu)
Chicken or Mutton Ghee Roast (Mangalorean...not too spicy but sinful as hell)
Beef Fry (From Kerala one of the few states that eats Beef)
Prawn Koliwada (Not as famous but being from Mumbai, I love them)

This should be a good start if you're interested but there's so many I've left out. I can't include a single North Eastern dish since almost everything I love has pork, I've picked nothing from Telangana/Andhra to avoid favouritism. Also didn't pick anything from Kashmir to avoid controversy. The best pure meat meal I've had in my life was the Wazwan at Ahdoos in Lal Chowk Srinagar and almost every item on there could be listed here.
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Great list and I recently had chicken chettinad and LOVED it! Is beef chettinad a thing or not?
 
rickroll said:
Great list and I recently had chicken chettinad and LOVED it! Is beef chettinad a thing or not?
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No Beef Chettinad is not a thing. Tamil cuisine doesn't use beef and is actually predominantly vegetarian with seafood on the coast. The only meats you'll find are chicken and a little mutton.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Those sound delicious. Would these dishes be found in a Bengali restaurant and Kerela dishes in a normal Indian place? I had a fish curry last night made by family. What type of fish they do use in Goan? Appreciate your response.
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Unfortunately not. Most Indian restaurants abroad play it safe focusing on vegetarian food or standard fare like butter chicken, vindaloo or rogan josh. You'll have to look for speciality restaurants.

They weren't easy to find outside their region in India either but the last few years have seen an explosion of 'exotic' restaurants, homechefs and cloud kitchens that have made them available. Some dishes like Chicken Chettinad, Chicken 65 etc. have broken out and gone mainstream.
 
Red-Indian said:
Unfortunately not. Most Indian restaurants abroad play it safe focusing on vegetarian food or standard fare like butter chicken, vindaloo or rogan josh. You'll have to look for speciality restaurants.

They weren't easy to find outside their region in India either but the last few years have seen an explosion of 'exotic' restaurants, homechefs and cloud kitchens that have made them available. Some dishes like Chicken Chettinad, Chicken 65 etc. have broken out and gone mainstream.
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Though I should say most of the newer Michelin starred Indian restaurants (I haven't been to any of them) have seemed to focus on either fusion or regional Indian cuisine - Semma is a prime example.

By the way, Goan fish curry tends to use either Surmai (king mackerel) or Pomfret ( I tried to Google what that's called in the West but couldn't find it).
 
KingKhanWC said:
Im sure there are some great Indian foods but dosa isnt something that wets my appetite.

If you could choose the greatest Indian dish, what do you recommend?

Ive ate almost every single worldwide cuisine, travelling. It maybe due to the upbringing but nothing come close to Pakistani food
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If you are looking to try Vegetarian dishes, you can pick
1. Stuffed brinjal / eggplant curry
2. Tamarind rice
3. Bhindi fry
These are preferred ones in Andhra Pradesh. But I am not sure if these will be available in UK or Europe. Vegetarian dishes will not make you heavy and hence a typical Vegetarian meal will have multiple dishes to try.

For Non veg, bamboo chicken and bamboo biryani is a must try. If you want to try something different ‘Gongura chicken’ is also good. It brings a tangy flavor to the chicken. Its not an every day dish to eat but it will be good for those who want to try different things.

Again, people from other Indian regions will prefer other dishes. But these come to my mind.

I like mutton dishes from Muslim restaurants. They cook it better in Hyderabad, India. No shame in accepting that. I will try some Pakistani dishes in future, they should be available here in Hyderabad.
 
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