Why has India never had a Muslim Prime Minister or Army Chief?

[Mian]

I got this question in mind while reading another thread. Indian muslim population is 7 to 8 times more than sikhs and still there is no muslim army chief or prime minister in indian history but there are sikh army chief and prime minister? why not?

 

[big_gamer007]

We did have a Muslim president but I don't think there has been any popular Muslim leader who could become the prime minister.. Also all the major states with majority of Lok Sabha seats the regional parties over there have had Hindu leaders only..

And whatever anyone may say here India is not ready to have a Muslim PM the difference between Hindus and Muslims still exists..

Not sure about army chief

 

[vagabond007ti]

Not many capable Muslim leaders who does not view everything from religion prism and appeal to larger population of India. there have been many muslim ministers in high position including home ministry (most imp position after PM) and Indian spy agency chief as well.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We have a Muslim Deputy PM,Home Minister Mufti Mohammad Saeed

We have had Muslim CJIs and SC Judges who are far more powerful than any Army Chief in India.

We have had Muslim Air Force Chief.

May be if Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan had not left, we would have had a Muslim PM.Anyways more than 80% of Indian PMs have been from 1 family of their stooges.

 

[CricketCartoons]

And rightly so. No matter how corrupt or incompetent my leader may be, at least I am not being ruled by a Muslim.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Because they were too busy ruling Bollywood, instead of the country.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

We have a Muslim Deputy PM,Home Minister Mufti Mohammad Saeed

We have had Muslim CJIs and SC Judges who are far more powerful than any Army Chief in India.

We have had Muslim Air Force Chief.

May be if Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan had not left, we would have had a Muslim PM.

Anyways more than 80% of Indian PMs have been from 1 family of their stooges.

Heard his part of freedom struggle not included in school history books for the kids to know. Would have never been a PM. His freedom struggle was used by both nations and left like a goat inside pack of wolves from both countries hungry for being the rulers.

 

[ExpressPacer]

And rightly so. No matter how corrupt or incompetent my leader may be, at least I am not being ruled by a Muslim.

Why should ones religious beliefs matter? I wouldn't mind a Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Atheist or ANYONE ruling Pakistan if they were good for the country.

 

[troodon]

No capable Muslim leaders. The only one I could think of was Ghulam Nabi Azad and he was a Gandhi family boot licker. Did not have the Leadership skills.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Heard his part of freedom struggle not included in school history books for the kids to know. Would have never been a PM. His freedom struggle was used by both nations and left like a goat inside pack of wolves from both countries hungry for being the rulers.

Huh what? Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan is very much included in Indian history books, his work with Khudai Khidmatgar forms a very important part and so does his opposition to partition. His importance can be gauged from the fact that he was awarded the Bharat Ratna..

And Bacha Khan was no goat, he was LION among men, if there ever was one.

 

[Sidilicious]

We did have a Muslim president but I don't think there has been any popular Muslim leader who could become the prime minister.. Also all the major states with majority of Lok Sabha seats the regional parties over there have had Hindu leaders only..

And whatever anyone may say here India is not ready to have a Muslim PM the difference between Hindus and Muslims still exists..

Not sure about army chief

We've had 3 muslim presidents, out of which 1 was acting.

 

[Sidilicious]

Heard his part of freedom struggle not included in school history books for the kids to know. Would have never been a PM. His freedom struggle was used by both nations and left like a goat inside pack of wolves from both countries hungry for being the rulers.

Nope, very much part of our history. Also called as frontier Gandhi.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Huh what? Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan is very much included in Indian history books, his work with Khudai Khidmatgar forms a very important part and so does his opposition to partition. His importance can be gauged from the fact that he was awarded the Bharat Ratna..

And Bacha Khan was no goat, he was LION among men, if there ever was one.

He is deleted from Pakistan historic books for reasons well known.

 

[JaDed]

Heard his part of freedom struggle not included in school history books for the kids to know. Would have never been a PM. His freedom struggle was used by both nations and left like a goat inside pack of wolves from both countries hungry for being the rulers.

Incorrect information,even in Tamil Nadu school history books he is mentioned as Frontier Gandhi ,even the Ali brothers are mentioned and none in negative light.

 

[Black Zero]

You need majority vote to become PM.
it's a popularity content.

Impress Hindu voters and become PM.

 

[Black Zero]

anyway, in Pakistan, it's unconstitutional to have non-muslim PM.

 

[Black Zero]

We've had 3 muslim presidents, out of which 1 was acting.

Shahrukh/Slaman/Aamir...which one?

 

[KingKhanWC]

We've had 3 muslim presidents, out of which 1 was acting.

What is the highest position held by a Muslim in the BJP? And who is this person?

 

[troodon]

What is the highest position held by a Muslim in the BJP? And who is this person?

I remember Sikandar Bakht. I think he no more.

Then there are Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi, Najma Heptullah from the top of my head.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I remember Sikandar Bakht. I think he no more.

Then there are Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi, Najma Heptullah from the top of my head.

Thanks.

 

[maverick85]

He is deleted from Pakistan historic books for reasons well known.

O brave one, look at Indian occupied Kashmir and how sheikh abdullah abdullah fared. Result is 6 lakh Daal khorasani underfed occupiers manning all butcher shops.

 

[Sidilicious]

What is the highest position held by a Muslim in the BJP? And who is this person?

Other than ministry of minority affairs, I think MJ Akbar is a minister of state for external affairs.

 

[Syed1]

Well we haven't had high ranking Hindu ministers either. Prime Minister tou possible hi nahi.


Highest post that I know off is CJ Bhagwandas.

 

[Bilal7]

Mohammad Bin Qasim (RA), Mamluks, Delhi Sultanate and the glorious Mughals. Muslims have had authority over India for hundreds of years. Once the Muslim-Hindu relations get better, India will have a Muslim PM as well.

Well we haven't had high ranking Hindu ministers either. Prime Minister tou possible hi nahi.


Highest post that I know off is CJ Bhagwandas.

Pakistan is 99% Muslim and does not claim to be a secular state. This makes sense.

 

[CanadianG00se]

we Indians dont vote based on religion. As long as we have PM that is suitable to lead nation, we will vote for him or her.

I dont know why is it a big fuss about PM being Hindu or Muslim.

I hope Modi is our PM for very long time.

 

[MosquitoMan]

My only and slightly unrelated contribution to this thread will be this; the apparent shining example of the 'free world', the United States of America has never had a female President and until very recently voted for an ethnic minority/black President.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Muslims have better future in India than in Pakistan by far. OP's true intention failed.

 

[gani999]

We've had 3 muslim presidents, out of which 1 was acting.

All three were proper presidents and none of them were acting. Two of them, ie Zakir Hussain and Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed, died in office and so could not complete their tenures.

 

[Sidilicious]

All three were proper presidents and none of them were acting. Two of them, ie Zakir Hussain and Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed, died in office and so could not complete their tenures.

my bad. on top o the 3, Hidayatullah was an acting president

 

[Waseem]

To be honest, it's really none of our concern who becomes Indian PM as long as it's not a nutcase like Modi who will spread hatred and extremism not only in his country but neighbouring countries as well to please his Hindu extremists.

 

[Madplayer]

No capable Muslim leaders. The only one I could think of was Ghulam Nabi Azad and he was a Gandhi family boot licker. Did not have the Leadership skills.

Gh nabi Azad made India polio free. He is very capable and a genuine leader from his college days. But for religious reasons he would never be made a PM.

 

[MenInG]

We are dancing around this so will state it.

Think its simplistic to think that a majority Hindu state will elect a Muslim PM if he was a panch waqt ka namazi! A Muslim in India to become a PM will need to embrace Hindu culture to become a PM.

 

[GBK_Fan]

We are dancing around this so will state it.

Think its simplistic to think that a majority Hindu state will elect a Muslim PM if he was a panch waqt ka namazi! A Muslim in India to become a PM will need to embrace Hindu culture to become a PM.

Such a guy will find it difficult to reach the top spot in any non Muslim secular democracy be it india or the uk or any other

 

[ask_analyse_act]

we Indians dont vote based on religion. As long as we have

PM that is suitable to lead nation

, we will vote for him or her.

I dont know why is it a big fuss about PM being Hindu or Muslim.

I hope

Modi is our PM for very long time.

suitable to lead nation and MODI for very long time....

what and where improvements do you have under MODI. list out the proofs, AFAIK he is orchestrating large scale looting and permanent downfall in the name of Government.

 

[Madplayer]

We are dancing around this so will state it.

Think its simplistic to think that a majority Hindu state will elect a Muslim PM if he was a panch waqt ka namazi! A Muslim in India to become a PM will need to embrace Hindu culture to become a PM.

This is true for all countries. Can't expect a hindu/muslim purist to become a prime minister of a christian majority.

In a democracy, You have to be secular and leave your religious preferences to some extent if you want to become a leader of the majority who dont share your faith.

 

[cricketjoshila]

To be honest, it's really none of our concern who becomes Indian PM as long as it's not a nutcase like Modi who will spread hatred and extremism not only in his country but neighbouring countries as well to please his Hindu extremists.

Actually its none of your concern either way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Gh nabi Azad made India polio free. He is very capable and a genuine leader from his college days. But for religious reasons he would never be made a PM.

Ghulam Nabi Azad can never be PM because he is a Gandhi Family stooge.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He is deleted from Pakistan historic books for reasons well known.

Because he was a better leader than Jinnah?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Because he was a better leader than Jinnah?

Who is the better leader? One who achieved the rights of his people, vs the one who failed?

 

[Zahid87]

Realistically, the present political scenario will not allow it - it is very simplistic to assume that because India is a majority Hindu state, it will not allow it.

There are 2 major national political parties - the Congress and the BJP.

The Congress will always have a member of the Nehru-Gandhi family as their PM candidate - Manmohan Singh was a proxy for Sonia Gandhi. No space for a Muslim there.

And the BJP is a Hindu party - no space for a Muslim there either.

Until there is a vacuum created which allows a third party to enter - it will be impossible.

Its as pointless as asking will PPP elect a non-Bhutto as PM candidate, or PLMN elect a member outside the Sharif clan.

The only way a Muslim could have been PM is if Gandhi did not fall in love with Nehru, and allowed Jinnah to be rightful PM. Would have been great for India. May have stopped the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty at its birth. Pakistan could have come into existence without Jinnah in any case.

 

[Zahid87]

We are dancing around this so will state it.

Think its simplistic to think that a majority Hindu state will elect a Muslim PM if he was a panch waqt ka namazi! A Muslim in India to become a PM will need to embrace Hindu culture to become a PM.

I think that is insulting the intelligence of voters to some extent. Do you really think that the prime reason a voter will cast his vote is dependent upon the religion of the candidate. I know there is backwardness, etc. But religion is not a defining trait like Race or ethnicity which makes someone appear alien. Religious identity is fluid.

The same family can share different religions, and still co-exist. You have people who have been living together for hundreds of years, sharing the same language, food, culture, and also sharing the same problems.

 

[big_gamer007]

I think that is insulting the intelligence of voters to some extent. Do you really think that the prime reason a voter will cast his vote is dependent upon the religion of the candidate. I know there is backwardness, etc. But religion is not a defining trait like Race or ethnicity which makes someone appear alien. Religious identity is fluid.

The same family can share different religions, and still co-exist. You have people who have been living together for hundreds of years, sharing the same language, food, culture, and also sharing the same problems.

Trust me he is absolutely right in his assessment, if any political party declares a Muslim as their PM candidate they won't win in India.. That is the truth..

The hardcore hindutva folks are against all minorities but the casual normal citizens maybe not be against Christians/Sikhs are are generally cool with them but a lot of these casual normal citizens still differentiate against Muslims..

 

[Madplayer]

Ghulam Nabi Azad can never be PM because he is a Gandhi Family stooge.

Can or should?

If can, then What logic is that? He is a member of congress party and one should expect him to be loyal to the party whose ideology he believes in. If he is capable to take India forward, is secular minded and not a hindu/muslim fundamentalist and has a good previous record then there should be no reason why a party loyalist should not become a PM.

He possesses all of the required qualities but You and me both know that he cant become the PM because of reasons other than merit.

 

[Madplayer]

I think that is insulting the intelligence of voters to some extent. Do you really think that the prime reason a voter will cast his vote is dependent upon the religion of the candidate. I know there is backwardness, etc. But religion is not a defining trait like Race or ethnicity which makes someone appear alien. Religious identity is fluid.

The same family can share different religions, and still co-exist. You have people who have been living together for hundreds of years, sharing the same language, food, culture, and also sharing the same problems.

I think you have a utopian view when you talk about the Indian electorate. Religion is a very important factor for them and religion card becomes 100 times stronger if a leader tries to use religion and bring forward the supposed "minority appeasement" by prior governments. I dont need to quote its biggest example to you because it is already staring Indians in the eye.

 

[kaayal]

Can or should?

If can, then What logic is that? He is a member of congress party and one should expect him to be loyal to the party whose ideology he believes in. If he is capable to take India forward, is secular minded and not a hindu/muslim fundamentalist and has a good previous record then there should be no reason why a party loyalist should not become a PM.

He possesses all of the required qualities but You and me both know that he cant become the PM because of reasons other than merit.

Almost all the congress men are gandhi family stooges tbh. Among them only Pranab Mukherjhee had any chance of becoming a PM and we know what they did to him.

 

[kaayal]

I want only good representation of educated muslim leaders in the Parliament to address their issues instead of this minority appeasement and vote bank politics by Congress and IUML. What we have now is the Owaisi types which are bringing bad reputation for all of us.

 

[Madplayer]

Almost all the congress men are gandhi family stooges tbh. Among them only Pranab Mukherjhee had any chance of becoming a PM and we know what they did to him.

See the party itself needs to amend ways and consider others as PM candidates as well if it has to survive. But CAN they choose a muslim for it? I really doubt it because of the fear of how it will go down with Indian hindus.

 

[kaayal]

See the party itself needs to amend ways and consider others as PM candidates as well if it has to survive. But CAN they choose a muslim for it? I really doubt it because of the fear of how it will go down with Indian hindus.

I wish they had the courage to project someone other than Rahul/Priyanka as the PM but no, the way they are clinging on to Rahul irrespective of the huge failure he has been.....No one in congress is going to revolt against them.

 

[kaayal]

See the party itself needs to amend ways and consider others as PM candidates as well if it has to survive. But CAN they choose a muslim for it? I really doubt it because of the fear of how it will go down with Indian hindus.

Indian Public is still not recovered from the muslim conquest of the past. I will be glad to have Muslim ministers in the cabinet. We can have our work done instead of being in the limelight and crucified all the time.

 

[gani999]

The one half-decent Muslim leader India had was Maulana Azad. There have been none after him. The likes of Owaisi are only capable of thuggery in Hyderabad's old city and nothing more.

Two hundred million muslims in India, and not one capable leader! Why, 1.25 billion Indians and we will still have only the likes of Rahul Gandhi ruling us if Modi fails.

Let's get the British back, shall we? Better still, the Americans this time.

 

[Sidilicious]

The one half-decent Muslim leader India had was Maulana Azad. There have been none after him. The likes of Owaisi are only capable of thuggery in Hyderabad's old city and nothing more.

Two hundred million muslims in India, and not one capable leader! Why, 1.25 billion Indians and we will still have only the likes of Rahul Gandhi ruling us if Modi fails.

Let's get the British back, shall we? Better still, the Americans this time.

Wouldn't mind an American colonisation.

Could do with a Starbucks at every corner.

 

[Bilal7]

Such a guy will find it difficult to reach the top spot in any non Muslim secular democracy be it india or the uk or any other

This is true for all countries. Can't expect a hindu/muslim purist to become a prime minister of a christian majority.

In a democracy, You have to be secular and leave your religious preferences to some extent if you want to become a leader of the majority who dont share your faith.

Not necessarily true. India is not a truly secular democratic country, no matter what some would have you believe. Hindu nationalists are present in large number and still hold sway in a few places. It's not a Hindu country either but regardless, religion is big over there.

A true secular democracy would be Canada. Over here, the leader of our third party is Jagmeet Singh, a practicing sikh who wears a turban, carries a kirpan and because of his speaking out for the atrocities committed against sikhs in India, has been banned from entering the country of his parents' birth.

So yes, a sikh can become the PM of Canada in a couple of years, and it's also possible that in a few years we'll have a Muslim PM as well. It can be done but not in India, at the moment.

 

[Thomaskutty]

It can be done but not in India, at the moment.

That's tosh...it could easily have been done in 2004 and 2009 , both elections were won by Sonia's party and she could have handpicked a senior muslim congress leader , but she eventually went with Manmohan. Salman Khurshid is an example.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Not necessarily true. India is not a truly secular democratic country, no matter what some would have you believe. Hindu nationalists are present in large number and still hold sway in a few places. It's not a Hindu country either but regardless, religion is big over there.

A true secular democracy would be Canada. Over here, the leader of our third party is Jagmeet Singh, a practicing sikh who wears a turban, carries a kirpan and because of his speaking out for the atrocities committed against sikhs in India, has been banned from entering the country of his parents' birth.

So yes, a sikh can become the PM of Canada in a couple of years, and it's also possible that in a few years we'll have a Muslim PM as well. It can be done but not in India, at the moment.

"Possible", "May be", let's talk when you have concrete examples. Also Sikhs and Muslims are not usually put in the same bucket by most western countries. I assume you see the difference in social acceptance and the concessions accorded to either community

 

[LastManstanding]

"Possible", "May be", let's talk when you have concrete examples. Also Sikhs and Muslims are not usually put in the same bucket by most western countries. I assume you see the difference in social acceptance and the concessions accorded to either community

We already had a Sikh prime minister but for Pakistani ppers that doesn't make India secular.

 

[Pakistanian]

Huh what? Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan is very much included in Indian history books, his work with Khudai Khidmatgar forms a very important part and so does his opposition to partition. His importance can be gauged from the fact that he was awarded the Bharat Ratna..

And Bacha Khan was no goat, he was LION among men, if there ever was one.

He was never interested in ruling india, ghaffar khan wanted to join Afghanistan. Rifht now india can look back at history and think he was pro india. If partition hadn't happened and india didn't grant his people independence, he would've definitely turned against india and yall would despise him the way Kashmiri political leaders are despised by indians today.

 

[Madplayer]

I wish they had the courage to project someone other than Rahul/Priyanka as the PM but no, the way they are clinging on to Rahul irrespective of the huge failure he has been.....No one in congress is going to revolt against them.

Tbf they did make manmohan the PM although he was little more than a mouth piece. Now the story seems different.

 

[Madplayer]

Indian Public is still not recovered from the muslim conquest of the past. I will be glad to have Muslim ministers in the cabinet. We can have our work done instead of being in the limelight and crucified all the time.

Its plain hindu loyalty. Conquests are a secondary factor i would say. We need better examples. In sarpanch elections in one of the places in Kashmir , kashmiris elected a Pandit woman because she was better than muslim candidates. More such examples are needed everywhere including Kashmir.

 

[Chrish]

They dont have inside connections.

 

[GBK_Fan]

We already had a Sikh prime minister but for Pakistani ppers that doesn't make India secular.

And the Canadian guy will probably not even become the PM. You cannot underline the hypocrisy enough

 

[GBK_Fan]

Indian Public is still not recovered from the muslim conquest of the past. I will be glad to have Muslim ministers in the cabinet. We can have our work done instead of being in the limelight and crucified all the time.

Wow that a gem. Aren't you a doctor living in India? You post more like a rabid anti Indian Pakistani.

Has the Indian public recovered from the partition? Muslims demanding a separate country as soon as we near independence. How about Kashmir where Muslims drove out the Pandits? Or the frequent riots? Or Muslim gangsters seeking refuge in Islamic countries? Naa let's put it down to the glorious Muslim empire which ended in the 1700s. Good going.

 

[Mian]

Because he was a better leader than Jinnah?

Forget Jinnah Bacha Khan wasn't even better than many muslim league leaders. He was only their to please congress and Gandhi. Maybe indians remember Bacha khan more but the world knows more about Jinnah the father of our nation and he wasn't racist like Bacha Khan and his pashtun pride.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

anyway, in Pakistan, it's unconstitutional to have non-muslim PM.

what-about-ism example #1

Muslims have better future in India than in Pakistan by far. OP's true intention failed.

what-about-ism example #1

My only and slightly unrelated contribution to this thread will be this; the apparent shining example of the 'free world', the United States of America has never had a female President and until very recently voted for an ethnic minority/black President.

what-about-ism example #3


Is it really so hard just to answer a direct question?

 

[cricketjoshila]

He was never interested in ruling india, ghaffar khan wanted to join Afghanistan. Rifht now india can look back at history and think he was pro india. If partition hadn't happened and india didn't grant his people independence, he would've definitely turned against india and yall would despise him the way Kashmiri political leaders are despised by indians today.

You need to re read history.Not ISPR vetted history though.

 

[Madplayer]

Wow that a gem. Aren't you a doctor living in India? You post more like a rabid anti Indian Pakistani.

Has the Indian public recovered from the partition? Muslims demanding a separate country as soon as we near independence. How about Kashmir where Muslims drove out the Pandits? Or the frequent riots? Or Muslim gangsters seeking refuge in Islamic countries? Naa let's put it down to the glorious Muslim empire which ended in the 1700s. Good going.

Dont bring Kashmir into it when you have no clue about ground zero. "Muslims drove out pandits". Usual brain washed Bull sheet propaganda.

Talk about UP villages where hindus drove muslims out.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Forget Jinnah Bacha Khan wasn't even better than many muslim league leaders. He was only their to please congress and Gandhi. Maybe indians remember Bacha khan more but the world knows more about Jinnah the father of our nation and he wasn't racist like Bacha Khan and his pashtun pride.

Bacha Khan was a better leader than Nehru and Jinnah put together.Just because he was not ready for violence and sacrifice lives for his goal doesnt make him a lesser leader.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Dont bring Kashmir into it when you have no clue about ground zero. "Muslims drove out pandits". Usual brain washed Bull sheet propaganda.

Talk about UP villages where hindus drove muslims out.

Muslims killed and drove out pandits in 100s of 1000s.Thats the truth.

 

[Snak3eye5]

In the end India did have a minority president in Manmoham Singh and that's what matters. India also has no clause in the constitution that they cannot elect a minority prime minister whether Christian, Muslim etc as a prime minister. While Pakistan has a strict clause that the prime minister can only be Muslim. In addition India has had various presidents who have been Christian, Muslim etc etc....It's only a matter of time that if there is a capable person to lead the contry who is not Hindu people will surely elect. I won't ever doubt the Indian electoral system here.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Dont bring Kashmir into it when you have no clue about ground zero. "Muslims drove out pandits". Usual brain washed Bull sheet propaganda.

Talk about UP villages where hindus drove muslims out.

Yup I will believe you and not the people I know who had their family members killed and homes burned. People living in squalor in Mumbai and other metropolis due to the magnanimity of people like you.

 

[rahulrulezz]

It's amazing how this thread is full of the word "Hindutava Extremists" as if they have faced or heard some Hindu extremism by these extremists in their native country or any country in the world. Have you heard a single hinditava extremists blowing or shooting in name of religion .. its other way around where most of the world have seen extremists from a certain religion.
Regardless, it's funny how people call Modi and BJP a Hindutava party even if they haven't implemented a single anti Muslim or pro Hindu policy. Ironic thing is, Muslim country such as Pakistan has political party names such as "Muslim" Awami league or heck even their country is named "Islamic" republic of Pakistan.

 

[Black Zero]

The one half-decent Muslim leader India had was Maulana Azad. There have been none after him. The likes of Owaisi are only capable of thuggery in Hyderabad's old city and nothing more.

Two hundred million muslims in India, and not one capable leader! Why, 1.25 billion Indians and we will still have only the likes of Rahul Gandhi ruling us if Modi fails.

Let's get the British back, shall we? Better still, the Americans this time.

Poor Azad was used by Congress.

 

[big_gamer007]

Indian Public is still not recovered from the muslim conquest of the past. I will be glad to have Muslim ministers in the cabinet. We can have our work done instead of being in the limelight and crucified all the time.

Loool that's far from the truth, I am surprised you think like that maybe you are spending too much time here on PP..

The reason why There are differences/hate between some Hindus against Muslims is because of partition and the fact that Muslims live in ghettos, have gangster culture, recent decade is the stories/rise of terrorism.. The fact they eat meat and slaughter animals does not go down well with some older generation Hindus who think this makes Muslims barbarians and probably pass this to their kids.. There might be some other reasons but these are what comes to mind..

Of course the above reason just shows the mindset of Indians (both Hindus and Muslims) have not evolved but your post suggesting it's due to conquest by Muslim rulers is far from accurate and is something other than used. BY some app trolls you would never hear..


Take a break from here it's clouding your views..

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

It's amazing how this thread is full of the word "Hindutava Extremists" as if they have faced or heard some Hindu extremism by these extremists in their native country or any country in the world. Have you heard a single hinditava extremists blowing or shooting in name of religion .. its other way around where most of the world have seen extremists from a certain religion.
Regardless, it's funny how people call Modi and BJP a Hindutava party even if they haven't implemented a single anti Muslim or pro Hindu policy. Ironic thing is, Muslim country such as Pakistan has political party names such as "Muslim" Awami league or heck even their country is named "Islamic" republic of Pakistan.

No bro, it ain't funny. Modi is a bona fide murderer. In 2002 Gujarat riots, the way he acted makes beasts humane. Al-Qaeda-esque stuff from him.

 

[kaayal]

Wow that a gem. Aren't you a doctor living in India? You post more like a rabid anti Indian Pakistani.

Has the Indian public recovered from the partition? Muslims demanding a separate country as soon as we near independence. How about Kashmir where Muslims drove out the Pandits? Or the frequent riots? Or Muslim gangsters seeking refuge in Islamic countries? Naa let's put it down to the glorious Muslim empire which ended in the 1700s. Good going.

Yep i am a doctor living in India and the bolded part is just laughable. I post what i like. If that offends you i am sorry i can't help. Learn to deal with it.

 

[kaayal]

Loool that's far from the truth, I am surprised you think like that maybe you are spending too much time here on PP..

The reason why There are differences/hate between some Hindus against Muslims is because of partition and the fact that Muslims live in ghettos, have gangster culture, recent decade is the stories/rise of terrorism.. The fact they eat meat and slaughter animals does not go down well with some older generation Hindus who think this makes Muslims barbarians and probably pass this to their kids.. There might be some other reasons but these are what comes to mind..

Of course the above reason just shows the mindset of Indians (both Hindus and Muslims) have not evolved but your post suggesting it's due to conquest by Muslim rulers is far from accurate and is something other than used. BY some app trolls you would never hear..


Take a break from here it's clouding your views..

I appreciate your post. But it's not only PP but reading a lot of article also made me think like that. Just leave it.

 

[big_gamer007]

I appreciate your post. But it's not only PP but reading a lot of article also made me think like that. Just leave it.

Not sure about the articles but what I posted is from my interactions with people (a lot are anti Muslim especially the ones from Meerut/Aligarh etc)... British ruled over us for a sizeable amount of years after the last Muslim ruler so I'm surprised anyone would have that view.. Also the fact that we have roads named after Mughals and glorified the monuments they built shows no scars.. Personally I haven't met anyone who even talks about this first time I heard this was in a troll post here by a resident Pakistani troll..

 

[CanadianG00se]

Dont bring Kashmir into it when you have no clue about ground zero. "Muslims drove out pandits". Usual brain washed Bull sheet propaganda.

Talk about UP villages where hindus drove muslims out.

There are still millions of muslim living in UP. Not sure if there any Pandits left in Kashmir.

 

[rahulrulezz]

No bro, it ain't funny. Modi is a bona fide murderer. In 2002 Gujarat riots, the way he acted makes beasts humane. Al-Qaeda-esque stuff from him.

Hahaha I knew this would be coming. That's a balant lie!!! A myth propagated by Pakistanis


Modi and his government has never said or did anything to start or support any riot. All the false accusations are cleared. Just like Imran Khan is accused as Taliban Khan, does.tgat make him a Taliban.

Regardless, Godhra Riots were started by Muslim riot iwhere they burnt alive innocent Hindu 65 women and kids pilgrims in Train in a "preplannned massacre". 25 Muslims including the imam have been finallly arrested after 12 years for planning this massacre. Pakistanis would always ignore this fact.

The riots was a revenge taken by Hindu mobs who were gutted out by the fact that even Gujarat had10% Muslim, these Muslim terrorists planned out massacred against innocent Hindu pilgrims for no reason


Imagine if few Ahmedis in Pakistan plan a massacre of 50 innocent Sunnis in Pakistan.
All the Ahmedis would be wiped of the face of Pakistan if they did sometuing even remotely close to what some Muslims did in Gujarat before the riots started in Gujarat.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Hahaha I knew this would be coming. That's a balant lie!!! A myth propagated by Pakistanis


Modi and his government has never said or did anything to start or support any riot. All the false accusations are cleared. Just like Imran Khan is accused as Taliban Khan, does.tgat make him a Taliban.

Regardless, Godhra Riots were started by Muslim riot iwhere they burnt alive innocent Hindu 65 women and kids pilgrims in Train in a "preplannned massacre". 25 Muslims including the imam have been finallly arrested after 12 years for planning this massacre. Pakistanis would always ignore this fact.

The riots was a revenge taken by Hindu mobs who were gutted out by the fact that even Gujarat had10% Muslim, these Muslim terrorists planned out massacred against innocent Hindu pilgrims for no reason


Imagine if few Ahmedis in Pakistan plan a massacre of 50 innocent Sunnis in Pakistan.
All the Ahmedis would be wiped of the face of Pakistan if they did sometuing even remotely close to what some Muslims did in Gujarat before the riots started in Gujarat.

You've been at PP for 10 years, I respect you for that.

That said, your post insults common sense at so many levels that it ain't worth pointing out.

 

[MenInG]

Just a short reminder to those wishing to discuss Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah

He is not to be addressed as Jinnah but either as Mr. Jinnah or Quaid-e-Azam.