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Why is India not giving KL Rahul a consistent run?

Rishta Aunty said:
Really rate Rahul; seems technically very sound and can play the big shots too. And he seemed to do really well in that series against Australia against all the quicks.

Why doesn't India seem to trust him? I cannot for one moment believe that Pandey or Jadhav are better players than him. Indian posters talk about India's batting culture and nurturing of talent, but it seems unthinkable thank Pant, who looked completely unprepared for international cricket can be given a chance ahead of Rahul.
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Rahul is a fantastic bat! But the problem with him is he throws it away at crucial stages with risky/unnecessary shots! He finds ways to get himself out even when the required rate is under control. He has to learn how to convert his 20s and 30s into big numbers. Yesterday was the right platform for him to prove himself on big stage, but he messed it up, on the other hand DK embraced it and turned into a super-hero of the final! Rahul will continue to struggle unless he ups his mental game and stops throwing his wicket away with stupid shot selections. Pant is not ready for National side yet! With the emergance of DK 2.0, Manish Pandey and Raina, Rahul's place in the team is doubtful too. Let's see how he performs in the IPL.
 
Ideally should be the second name on the list in Tests and T20s and 3rd in ODIs after Virat and Dhoni purely based on what hes shown already , unfortunate that hes still made to fight for a spot when hes way ahead of likes of Pandey , Dhawan (Tests ) , Rohit etc

Just cant understand whats gone woring so badly in last 3-4 months hes suddenly out of favour
 
Tyler Durden said:
Rahul is a fantastic bat! But the problem with him is he throws it away at crucial stages with risky/unnecessary shots! He finds ways to get himself out even when the required rate is under control. He has to learn how to convert his 20s and 30s into big numbers. Yesterday was the right platform for him to prove himself on big stage, but he messed it up, on the other hand DK embraced it and turned into a super-hero of the final! Rahul will continue to struggle unless he ups his mental game and stops throwing his wicket away with stupid shot selections. Pant is not ready for National side yet! With the emergance of DK 2.0, Manish Pandey and Raina, Rahul's place in the team is doubtful too. Let's see how he performs in the IPL.
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KL is a careless and can do better , but its a myth that hes inconsistent . He has some big knocks in all the formats . Just before he was ran out of favour with our captain , he has scored 9 50s in his last 11 innings ..yes no hundreds , but 6 of those 50s came in Aus series on very difficult pitches . Hes not averaging ~45 in T20s by scoring 20s and 30s . you keep droping him , moving up and down I doubt any player can be consistent .
 
He really bottled his chance ahead of Raina once Kohli returns. I wouldn't mid Kohli skipping couple of T20I so we get firm confirmation between Raina, KL, and Manish. I go with Raina and Manish at the moment.
 
He should be given consistent run in odis at no.4 although Karthik has confirmed his booking with that special knock in finals.

T20s, pick whoever you want as no one really cares. Personally, Raina has to be one of main picks for T20s IMO.
 
jusarrived said:
KL is a careless and can do better , but its a myth that hes inconsistent . He has some big knocks in all the formats . Just before he was ran out of favour with our captain , he has scored 9 50s in his last 11 innings ..yes no hundreds , but 6 of those 50s came in Aus series on very difficult pitches . Hes not averaging ~45 in T20s by scoring 20s and 30s . you keep droping him , moving up and down I doubt any player can be consistent .
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Don't talk logic man.

Leave Indian management, look at the arguments given by cricket fans.

Let's have our Rohits and Dhawans in our test team captained by legendary kaptan King Kohli.
 
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First KL was a 100 or 0 batsman.

Then according to Shastri not good enough cos he couldn't convert his 50s (was scoring 50s almost every innings).

I wonder what's gonna be the next trend?
 
With Rahul out of RCB I am sure he won't even get that slightest confidence of Kohli! I guess he will be sidelined completely even if he performs well like Utthappa did for KKR. Rahul has to forget everything and concentrate on Test Cricket where Rohit tries to hide in the middle order and Dhawan falters much more than the so-called inconsistent-Rahul! There is not much competition in Test Cricket to him especially at the top order...
 
jusarrived said:
Ideally should be the second name on the list in Tests and T20s and 3rd in ODIs after Virat and Dhoni purely based on what hes shown already , unfortunate that hes still made to fight for a spot when hes way ahead of likes of Pandey , Dhawan (Tests ) , Rohit etc

Just cant understand whats gone woring so badly in last 3-4 months hes suddenly out of favour
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Meant Dhawan :)
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
First KL was a 100 or 0 batsman.

Then according to Shastri not good enough cos he couldn't convert his 50s (was scoring 50s almost every innings).

I wonder what's gonna be the next trend?
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He has to hit 200 thrice in ODIs, for the moment he doesn't have one in Tests!
 
Dinesh Kartik will now be permanent fixture of ODIs/T20s followed by Pandey, Jadhav, Raina, etc. Rahul will be the last priority...
 
After Kohli, this guy's the most exciting batting talent from India.

51 off 13 today.

He needs to make it count in international cricket and be consistent.
 
Just bat him at 4 in ODIs since Dhwaan and Rohit won't be replaced . In tests he seems to be the regular opener and should be persisted with.
 
He looked so elegant today. That square drive off Boult’s bowling was special.

Consistent performances even half as good would get him a permanent place in the Indian XI. Chances will come his way. He should make them count.
 
Might be because Kohli is scared that KL will overtake him.
 
Where does KL Rahul go from here?

It looks like he wouldn't t be a permanent member in the playing 11, in T20is until 2020.

He still has a chance in Odis to get into the playing 11, if he does well against England. But again, he may not even get a chance.

What does future hold for him? I am afraid if India gives him a chance when he's out of form and low on confidence.

And that comparison has become an embarrassment. One player has moved to #1 and #2 in T20Is and Odis, and other is still struggling to find a place in the 11. While his competitors are uncles and some match losers.
 
If KL opens, Kohli has to push his buddy Rohit down the order.

If KL clicks in middle order, what will happen to his precious Jadhav and Pandey?

So basically KL can stick to IPL and leave international cricket for Big boys like Jadhav, Pandey etc.
 
As long as "sharma ji ka beta" is there kl rahul will never get opening slot. So he should cash in at no.4 if he gets opportunity otherwise he will consistently in & out of the team.
 
I find it hard to believe that someone like Kohli can have hard time identifying real batting talent. Indian team selection for the last many series has been baffling to say the least. It actually cost us a Test series in South Africa too.
 
Calm down, people.Kohli just said in the presentation ceremony that he will be trying out new players next game.So hopefully Rahul will get to bat.
 
introvert said:
As long as "sharma ji ka beta" is there kl rahul will never get opening slot. So he should cash in at no.4 if he gets opportunity otherwise he will consistently in & out of the team.
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Then he should just change his name to 'KL Sharma'.
 
Dingolfy said:
Calm down, people.Kohli just said in the presentation ceremony that he will be trying out new players next game.So hopefully Rahul will get to bat.
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That does not justify the silly decision of leaving out Rahul and more importantly DK. Dhoni has a divine right to be in team after a decade of doing nothing in T20Is and even a guy who won us a final after hitting last ball six has to make way for him. Nothing can be worse than that.

Shame on this team management who keep going back to their favorites Raina and Pandey
 
These foolish selections will cost India the world cup. It's better to prepare ourselves for the 2023 World Cup instead with most of these oldies gone after the 2019 WC.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
These foolish selections will cost India the world cup. It's better to prepare ourselves for the 2023 World Cup instead with most of these oldies gone after the 2019 WC.
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I think they are doing the same only since 2023 WC is at home.
 
cricketindiafan said:
That does not justify the silly decision of leaving out Rahul and more importantly DK. Dhoni has a divine right to be in team after a decade of doing nothing in T20Is and even a guy who won us a final after hitting last ball six has to make way for him. Nothing can be worse than that.

Shame on this team management who keep going back to their favorites Raina and Pandey
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They have tried quite a few at Raina's place but nobody has been able to do anything extraordinary.Jadhav gave some hopes in England series but fizzled after and also a very poor fielder.Raina gives you an option of a sixth bowler too.
 
Dingolfy said:
They have tried quite a few at Raina's place but nobody has been able to do anything extraordinary.Jadhav gave some hopes in England series but fizzled after and also a very poor fielder.Raina gives you an option of a sixth bowler too.
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One can understand Raina as a backup bowler for Pandya. But what utility does Manish brings to the team?
 
BlackShadow said:
I find it hard to believe that someone like Kohli can have hard time identifying real batting talent. Indian team selection for the last many series has been baffling to say the least. It actually cost us a Test series in South Africa too.
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Even an imbecile would have figured out Rahul is a real talent and a long term investment, part of the nucleus. But this omission appears to be intentional. I sincerely believe something has happened between Rahul and Kohli that we don't know of. THen dropping of Rahane over Rohit.
 
Kohli will be relieved of captaincy after 2019 WC. That is when KL will get his chances.
 
When you get a chance to play against a team like Ireland, you take it! He should try and get a century here and then it will be hard for him to lose his place even if it's just against Ireland.
 
Best batsman to emerge from Asia since Kohli, and by some distance.
 
The more I watch Rahul bat like this, the more it annoys me that Kohli and Shastri have been wasting his talent for the last 2 years.
 
Mamoon said:
Best batsman to emerge from Asia since Kohli, and by some distance.
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I agree.

Will be massively disappointed if he doesn't end up hitting some legendary doubles or even triples in test cricket.

He has superstar written all over him.
 
Rahul is potentially more talented than kohli. Unfortunately, first injuries and now unfair treatment is delaying his superstar status and who knows might even get destroyed under two idiots : Shastri and kohli.
 
jusarrived said:
KL is a careless and can do better , but its a myth that hes inconsistent . He has some big knocks in all the formats . Just before he was ran out of favour with our captain , he has scored 9 50s in his last 11 innings ..yes no hundreds , but 6 of those 50s came in Aus series on very difficult pitches . Hes not averaging ~45 in T20s by scoring 20s and 30s . you keep droping him , moving up and down I doubt any player can be consistent .
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And those 50s were gold when others were struggling due to some good bowling and bowler friendly conditions at the start.
 
hadi123 said:
When you get a chance to play against a team like Ireland, you take it! He should try and get a century here and then it will be hard for him to lose his place even if it's just against Ireland.
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He scored a century against a much better attack, West Indies, off 46 balls. Still....
 
King Kong said:
He scored a century against a much better attack, West Indies, off 46 balls. Still....
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I'm not saying he's a minnow basher, I'm just saying that when you play against worse teams, it's a chance to play a phenomenal innings to cement your place
 
hadi123 said:
I'm not saying he's a minnow basher, I'm just saying that when you play against worse teams, it's a chance to play a phenomenal innings to cement your place
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That's what I meant. He did score a century in T20 internationals, still doesn't have a permanent spot. India have the worst captain, coach, management in the world. How foolish was I to have thought Kohli would become a great captain.
 
King Kong said:
That's what I meant. He did score a century in T20 internationals, still doesn't have a permanent spot. India have the worst captain, coach, management in the world. How foolish was I to have thought Kohli would become a great captain.
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Oh yeah true, you have to feel for him, India have a large pool of players.
 
KL Rahul and Fawad Alam look to carry similar luck. Potential but rarely selected
 
mp812rediff said:
KL Rahul and Fawad Alam look to carry similar luck. Potential but rarely selected
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Not really. Actually Rahul is actually picked in the side, he is just not getting consistent games. He got injured at wrong time where he was about to be picked for long term. I think now he will.
 
Rohit & Dhawan should be opener and virat at 3 then rahul at 4 for both odis and t20s. In odis rahul will get enough time to bat at 4. In t20s he may not get that much time but he can do finisher kind of role for us.
 
This team is crying for Pant and his six hitting ability. Will make the batting so formidable.

What does a 37 year old Dhoni get by playing these T20Is, has played non stop since 2006. Let him make way for a youngster in such fine form and banging the door with weight of his runs
 
cricketindiafan said:
This team is crying for Pant and his six hitting ability. Will make the batting so formidable.

What does a 37 year old Dhoni get by playing these T20Is, has played non stop since 2006. Let him make way for a youngster in such fine form and banging the door with weight of his runs
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He is beyond shameless.
 
cricketindiafan said:
This team is crying for Pant and his six hitting ability. Will make the batting so formidable.

What does a 37 year old Dhoni get by playing these T20Is, has played non stop since 2006. Let him make way for a youngster in such fine form and banging the door with weight of his runs
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sensible-indian-fan said:
He is beyond shameless.
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Bit Harsh. He is fit. He is def. there as team is thinking of playing him for next WC. I don't think we have a keeper who is as good as him when Kuldeep and Chahal are bowling.

Do we really need another batter in t20? I know age is against MSD, but I will pick him alone for his keeping.
 
Dhoni is a better keeper than Pant for sure in LOIs.However, he is in the team for his captaincy skills.Kohli still goes to him for all major decisions.
 
Dingolfy said:
Dhoni is a better keeper than Pant for sure in LOIs.However, he is in the team for his captaincy skills.Kohli still goes to him for all major decisions.
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I too want Dhoni to retire honorably now but fear that our over smart kaptaan will lose the plot too many times. He already has wasted some golden chances in tests.
 
What a way of making you case to be in the team. Damn this kid needs to play more.
 
That is about to change now. He isn't getting dropped unless the team wants to rest someone.
 
Dingolfy said:
Dhoni is a better keeper than Pant for sure in LOIs.However, he is in the team for his captaincy skills.Kohli still goes to him for all major decisions.
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Is this a joke or what? A guy who had made India number 1 in tests and done things which Dhoni as Test captain never could, needs Dhoni to run his LOI teams?

Kohli is being over diplomatic and giving far too much respect to Dhoni. Which shows in team performance as well, our LOI team still plays like Dhoni's team. Test squad has none of that and has been far more successfull.
 
Rahul hasn't scored 150 or 200 in the match, so he might be dropped by Shastri!
 
Just to make a point on how this guy has changed his game in the past couple of years or so, you look at his List A stats and it shows that in 47 innings, he has an average of 38.21 and a strike rate of 74.23. Those are well below average for the 50-overs format, and most certainly below average by Indian standards. This guy used to be an accumulator with a solid record in first-class cricket but he added an extra dimension to his batting with his attacking strokeplay and it is beginning to pay off.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Just to make a point on how this guy has changed his game in the past couple of years or so, you look at his List A stats and it shows that in 47 innings, he has an average of 38.21 and a strike rate of 74.23. Those are well below average for the 50-overs format, and most certainly below average by Indian standards. This guy used to be an accumulator with a solid record in first-class cricket but he added an extra dimension to his batting with his attacking strokeplay and it is beginning to pay off.
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In my opinion all that credit should go to IPL. It is the craze of IPL that has driven him to become so much aggressive! Otherwise he would have got settled to play only in Tests as an opener like M.Vijay! (If you observed even Vijay tried hard in IPL to improve his LOI game! But he couldn't sustain it because of lack of skills or temperament or whatever) So he had to undergo lot of tests & challenges for that (almost cost him his career itself!) Eventually it is perhaps paying off (still not 100% guaranteed as yet). If he keeps up to this he can become that rare all-format player like Kohli!
 
Glad that he has earned the accolades from Kohli now! That's what I like about Kohli... At least he has the heart of a kid... Anyone who performs well (pure performance) will automatically draw his attention. He has no other yardstick in his mind. Dhoni, Shastri, etc, have different things going in their mind while favoring anyone and its known to everyone! Still these guys will try to manipulate things & distract Kohli in whatever way possible! Another monstrous 200 by Rohit against Sri Lanka in India and an injury to Rahul will probably set back things again, and unfortunately that's how Kohli sees things... I think India needed Captain Ganguly again now to lead this strong Indian lineup to different levels!
 
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They've dropped him again - for a bloke who does not even average 30 despite playing ODI cricket for 14 years. Meanwhile granpa Dhoni keeps his place.
 
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Insecure kohli not allowing to develop KL because he knows he will become the real MVP.
 
So Rahul is dropped after one match while shameless grandpa and Raina are still here. I have absolutely no hope from Kohli and shastri.
 
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