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Why is Salman Ali Agha considered a modern T20 hero compared to Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?

BouncerGuy said:
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Agenda?

What’s the agenda? Why are you insistent on repeating the same mistakes that were made when Sarfaraz was the captain of Pakistan’s T20 side.

Have you people not learned from your mistakes??
 
I’ll tell you right now,

It’s very easy for this guy to misuse his power, open the innings, waste balls to play himself in and score a little 50 off 35-40 balls for you people who prefer runs>sr

That’s how simple it is for him. He’s not doing it because he cares about his team first and not you crybabies

Cry more! He’s our captain! We rally behind him! A captain who cares about the team first!
 
Rana said:
I’ll tell you right now,

It’s very easy for this guy to misuse his power, open the innings, waste balls to play himself in and score a little 50 off 35-40 balls for you people who prefer runs>sr

That’s how simple it is for him. He’s not doing it because he cares about his team first and not you crybabies

Cry more! He’s our captain! We rally behind him! A captain who cares about the team first!
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How can a non performing captain be considered a good captain?

Is there a specialist captain role in the playing Xi?
 
Hawkeye said:
How can a non performing captain be considered a good captain?
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He’s an out of form batter

He performed well for Pakistan in the tri series and other series in the lead up to the Asia cup

His team is pulling through during his slump, he will pull them through as well at their time of need.

That’s how a winning unit functions.

We stand with our players in their best and worst times.

Who’s going to captain and do a job for Pakistan if you remove Agha?? You plan on bringing the Shoda Rizwan back?
 
Rana said:
He’s an out of form batter

He performed well for Pakistan in the tri series and other series in the lead up to the Asia cup

His team is pulling through during his slump, he will pull them through as well at their time of need.

That’s how a winning unit functions.

We stand with our players in their best and worst times.

Who’s going to captain and do a job for Pakistan if you remove Agha?? You plan on bringing the Shoda Rizwan back?
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RIZWAN no way.

Agha as a specialist captain hasn’t done any wonders and it seems like Hesson calls all the shots so any performing player can be made one.

Would prefer a bowler. Fakhar maybe as well.

Problem with Agha is his lack of shots and the inability to accelerate. He’s similar to Rizwan. Just an accumulator.
 
Hawkeye said:
RIZWAN no way.

Agha as a specialist captain hasn’t done any wonders and it seems like Hesson calls all the shots so any performing player can be made one.

Would prefer a bowler. Fakhar maybe as well.

Problem with Agha is his lack of shots and the ability to accelerate. He’s similar to Rizwan.
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Agha was doing well with the bat before assuming captaincy.

It seems like captaincy responsibility ruined his game.
 
sweep_shot said:
Agha was doing well with the bat before assuming captaincy.

It seems like captaincy responsibility ruined his game.
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I judge a batter based on their range of shots. He lacks them when trying to accelerate.

What was his strike rate and average?
 
Rana said:
Agha was never in the T20 team before Captaincy

Let’s not mix up formats.
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You are right. I mixed up ODI and T20.

Anyway, he seemed more natural and confident before captaincy and right after captaincy.

Last few months, he has been struggling.
 
Hawkeye said:
I judge a batter based on their range of shots. He lacks them when trying to accelerate.

What was his strike rate and average?
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He was doing well during that time.

Here was one innings:

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Anyway, his form is obviously gone now. He is struggling currently.
 
sweep_shot said:
He was doing well during that time.

Here was one innings:

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Anyway, his form is obviously gone now. He is struggling currently.
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His best position is number 3

Even for Islamabad United, his best knocks have come at 3.

He puts Youngsters and aggressive batters ahead of himself for Pakistan.

They pick 3 openers and make Saim or Fakhar rotate at 3. They also try to maximise Harris by sending him at 3.

Agha hasn’t once put himself ahead of the team!
 
Clearly not good enough to be in the T20 team no matter how anyone will talk about his form or past performances.
 
Rana said:
Agenda?

What’s the agenda? Why are you insistent on repeating the same mistakes that were made when Sarfaraz was the captain of Pakistan’s T20 side.

Have you people not learned from your mistakes??
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Yes Pakistan got rid of a specialist captain who was batting below tailenders. Same will be applied too with Salman who is even worse.
 
khyberlion said:
Yes we were already a Australian team with 10 players when sarfraz was the captain.🤡
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What a 🤡 Argument and you fell right into it.

What was Pakistan’s win percentage under Sarfaraz?

What kind of Khyber Lion are you
 
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Agha apologists have been badly humiliated. It is very clear now the they had a personal agenda against Babar and Rizwan and the whole schtick of “it is for the betterment of Pakistan cricket” nonsense was a load of drama.

If they were impartial, they would be equally critical (if not more) of Agha now because those two even at their lowest from were never as bad as Agha is right now.
 
Mamoon said:
Agha apologists have been badly humiliated. It is very clear now the they had a personal agenda against Babar and Rizwan and the whole schtick of “it is for the betterment of Pakistan cricket” nonsense was a load of drama.

If they were impartial, they would be equally critical (if not more) of Agha now because those two even at their lowest from were never as bad as Agha is right now.
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78 sr is decent in t20s. He's doing a good job and has the right intentions.
 
Rana said:
His best position is number 3

Even for Islamabad United, his best knocks have come at 3.

He puts Youngsters and aggressive batters ahead of himself for Pakistan.

They pick 3 openers and make Saim or Fakhar rotate at 3. They also try to maximise Harris by sending him at 3.

Agha hasn’t once put himself ahead of the team!
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Agha’s best position is number 3. Haris best position is number 3. Your local naan shop owner’s best position is number 3.

Pakistan is a magical cricket team where it only specializes in producing number 3 batsmen, and they are such specialists the these number 3 batsmen can’t buy a run anywhere else.

🤣🤣🤣
 
Let’s address the Sarfaraz myth too. The clown revisionism that Pakistan was a top team under him before he was unfairly axed couldn’t be further from the truth.

Both the team and his individual performances were in freefall and he basically sacked himself.

Kicking him out and replacing him with Rizwan is the best thing Misbah did as coach, and it shouldn’t have been done earlier. By 2019, Rizwan was clearly better, and should have played the World Cup but Sarfraz was so insecure that he didn’t even have him in the squad.

The ODI series vs Australia in th UAE two months before the World Cup made it very clear that Rizwan was now better than him, and he didn’t even make the final 15 in spite of scoring 2 centuries.

Sarfraz turned Pakistan into a minnow in ODIs between 2018 and 2019, and his pathetic batting was a key driver behind Pakistan’s demise.

He had lost so much confidence in himself that he started hiding behind tailenders like Wahab, Amir and Hassan Ali who would often bat above him. How embarrassing.

Pakistan couldn’t be further from the number 1 ranking in ODIs at the time. They were closer to being number 1 from the bottom.

Sarfaraz also ruined Pakistan in Test cricket.

The only saving grace was T20Is, but that bubble would have burst if there was a T20I World Cup in 2018. He was lucky there wasn’t one.

He cashed on playing a lot of T20I cricket vs C and D teams as other boards were resting their key players to prioritize ODIs because it was the ODI World Cup season.

However, if there was T20I World Cup in 2018, all teams would have fielded their best XIs and Sarfraz and his topi drama would have been exposed.
 
The new excuse we have now is NUMBER 3 position... Eveyr guy in the team is a number 3 now that is why he is not performing.
 
Rana said:
cool story bud.

keep finding the 'weakest link's and highlighting them for us every game. They change every other game these days.
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There are many weak links... They are quite exposed... No need to try hard...
 
Rana said:
Good. keep pointing them out whilst ignoring the positives.
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We really need to do something about being five down for nothing every single game.

People are whining about playing so many all-rounders, but they are the only ones contributing consistently. The batsmen, besides Farhan to a certain extent, are literally doing nothing.
 
Salman Agha (has not scored any runs in his last 9 innings since his fifty against Afghanistan in the Tri-series opener) needs to be replaced by Fakhar Zaman as captain. Fakhar is a match-winner in both formats of white ball cricket. He should have always opened in T20Is (I feel that Pak have finally got the combo right with Fakhar-Farhan). People criticise Fakhar's lack of consistency in T20Is (and with some merit. His ODI record is better) but he was never allowed to settle into that opening role. Sometimes he's sent at 3 or 4, other times 5 or 6. It is hard to perform as a batsman when you do not have a settled batting position in the team and don't know your exact role.

SSA will be a good alternative candidate. He has won PSL x 3 but I am not sure if he's captaincy material. Comes across as mentally weak. But that's just my opinion.
 
AZulfi said:
Salman Agha (has not scored any runs in his last 9 innings since his fifty against Afghanistan in the Tri-series opener) needs to be replaced by Fakhar Zaman as captain. Fakhar is a match-winner in both formats of white ball cricket. He should have always opened in T20Is (I feel that Pak have finally got the combo right with Fakhar-Farhan). People criticise Fakhar's lack of consistency in T20Is (and with some merit. His ODI record is better) but he was never allowed to settle into that opening role. Sometimes he's sent at 3 or 4, other times 5 or 6. It is hard to perform as a batsman when you do not have a settled batting position in the team and don't know your exact role.

SSA will be a good alternative candidate. He has won PSL x 3 but I am not sure if he's captaincy material. Comes across as mentally weak. But that's just my opinion.
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Fakhar, Farhan followed by Saim
 
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If Agha’s best position is 3 he should bat there. It would greatly help the team who badly need someone at 3. The window is wide open at 3. It’s not selfishness if it actually benefits the team.

I actually think he could perform there too.
 
T20 batsmen who have batted 25 innings as a captain or more in T20 history. True hall of shame.

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AZulfi said:
Do we have better options?

Saim has been the biggest disappointment in this tournament.
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I was trying to make a joke...
Initials of each of the players I named...
got deleted 😁

Saim has been a real disappointment...
I'm sure there are other options out there
 
Mad respect to Agha for maintains a T20I SR of 111 after telling the world that Pakistan will bat with new intent and aggression.

But but intentions sir 🤣🤣🤣
 
Mamoon said:
Let’s address the Sarfaraz myth too. The clown revisionism that Pakistan was a top team under him before he was unfairly axed couldn’t be further from the truth.

Both the team and his individual performances were in freefall and he basically sacked himself.

Kicking him out and replacing him with Rizwan is the best thing Misbah did as coach, and it shouldn’t have been done earlier. By 2019, Rizwan was clearly better, and should have played the World Cup but Sarfraz was so insecure that he didn’t even have him in the squad.

The ODI series vs Australia in th UAE two months before the World Cup made it very clear that Rizwan was now better than him, and he didn’t even make the final 15 in spite of scoring 2 centuries.

Sarfraz turned Pakistan into a minnow in ODIs between 2018 and 2019, and his pathetic batting was a key driver behind Pakistan’s demise.

He had lost so much confidence in himself that he started hiding behind tailenders like Wahab, Amir and Hassan Ali who would often bat above him. How embarrassing.

Pakistan couldn’t be further from the number 1 ranking in ODIs at the time. They were closer to being number 1 from the bottom.

Sarfaraz also ruined Pakistan in Test cricket.

The only saving grace was T20Is, but that bubble would have burst if there was a T20I World Cup in 2018. He was lucky there wasn’t one.

He cashed on playing a lot of T20I cricket vs C and D teams as other boards were resting their key players to prioritize ODIs because it was the ODI World Cup season.

However, if there was T20I World Cup in 2018, all teams would have fielded their best XIs and Sarfraz and his topi drama would have been exposed.
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Great post and well said about the myth that sarfraz was some great captain. His batting was useless but his keeping was quite quite poor before being sacked along with becoming overweight.
 
Mamoon said:
Agha apologists have been badly humiliated. It is very clear now the they had a personal agenda against Babar and Rizwan and the whole schtick of “it is for the betterment of Pakistan cricket” nonsense was a load of drama.

If they were impartial, they would be equally critical (if not more) of Agha now because those two even at their lowest from were never as bad as Agha is right now.
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Your point may be valid for some people.

Vast majority of RIZWAN Babar critics also equally criticize Agha.

All three (specially Agha and RIZWAN) are pathetic white ball cricketers and have no place in the T20 team. Babar has good timing and range of shots so he’s debatable and can be part of the team playing around proper hitters.

It’s a huge travesty that Agha is the captain now and undroppable.
 
Salman Ali agha mostly captained against 8th, 9th, 10th or below ranked teams. So that makes his performances are more woeful than it shows. Players going through bad patch is normal. But he never had a good patch to begin with.
 
khyberlion said:
78 is decent in t20s. He's playing for the team and has good intentions.
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I think he believes chewing gum will make him more intimidating lol. Ben duckett strike rate in Tests for this year 87.17, Harry Brook 87.12, Jamie smith 79, Pant 77.54 , Jos Inglis 82 lol Cricket has come a long way.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I think he believes chewing gum will make him more intimidating lol. Ben duckett strike rate in Tests for this year 87.17, Harry Brook 87.12, Jamie smith 79, Pant 77.54 , Jos Inglis 82 lol Cricket has come a long way.
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In fairness to him he's not a t20 players but he's beyond abysmal. He's a decent batter at best and tbh has punched above his weight in tests and odis. In t20s he shouldn't be in the 25 squad let alone be the captain. He needs to be shown the door after asia cup regardless of the results.
 
khyberlion said:
In fairness to him he's not a t20 players but he's beyond abysmal. He's a decent batter at best and tbh has punched above his weight in tests and odis. In t20s he shouldn't be in the 25 squad let alone be the captain. He needs to be shown the door after asia cup regardless of the results.
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This is why you pick the squad first then pick the captain. I wonder which genius came up with the idea of appointing a 31 year old with no T20 stats to back up as T20 captain.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
This is why you pick the squad first then pick the captain. I wonder which genius came up with the idea of appointing a 31 year old with no T20 stats to back up as T20 captain.
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Probably the clown that is naqvi. After getting rid of babar and rizwan we have gone for a player who is far more worse.
 
Modern T20 Hero? Who gave him that title?
Whoever it was, their brain deserves a glass case in the museum.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Which players you want to see in the squad?
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Hasan Nawaz over him will be a good start.

Pakistan needs to go for some hitter even though I don't rate Abdul sammad, irfan naizi etc much they will still be better than salman. You can't justify having a captain who is sr is 110. Anyone will do a better job.
 
khyberlion said:
Hasan Nawaz over him will be a good start.

Pakistan needs to go for some hitter even though I don't rate Abdul sammad, irfan naizi etc much they will still be better than salman. You can't justify having a captain who is sr is 110. Anyone will do a better job.
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He is stalling the growth of Hasan Nawaz. Looks selfish. He should voulantrily sit down like ROhit did at the SCG test. Anyway Hesson is controlling the captaincy.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He is stalling the growth of Hasan Nawaz. Looks selfish. He should voulantrily sit down like ROhit did at the SCG test. Anyway Hesson is controlling the captaincy.
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And we have replaced Hasan Nawaz with Hussain talat who is not international standard player.
 
Rana said:
His best position is number 3

Even for Islamabad United, his best knocks have come at 3.

He puts Youngsters and aggressive batters ahead of himself for Pakistan.

They pick 3 openers and make Saim or Fakhar rotate at 3. They also try to maximise Harris by sending him at 3.

Agha hasn’t once put himself ahead of the team!
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Yea Talat Hussain and Muhammad Nawaz are great upcoming hard-hitting batsmen. It was embarrassing how he sent them up in the order against India and hid himself. He knows he doesn’t have the game.
 
Savak said:
Agha has failed as a T20 player. Hopefully the PCB puts him out of his misery after the Asia Cup. No need to make fun of him.
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He isn’t above criticism. If you’re feeling so bad why don’t you go and make a “I love you” thread for him.
 
mominsaigol said:
Yes heddie you are correct. Babar is defo heavier then the other 12 players.

So much so that we fans feel the weight on PK team when he's in the squad.
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Not just the heavyweight. Babar has more runs, more fifties, more centuries alone than the rest of the squad combined. Such is his class.
 
Imagine the irony if the most mediocre player to ever captain Pakistan ends up leading them to their most satisfying win :jimmy:ishant
 
Average player but definitely a captain who can make team fight . Which was missing from Babar and Rizwan . If he can sort out his batting Agha can keep going ahead . Chance for Agha boy to clinch the title .
 
Why can't people just accept they all are crap instead of taking sides and fighting like emotional unintelligent fans. Whether Salman Agha or Babar Azam, they just are not cut out for international cricket.
 
Salman Agha is not cut out for T20 cricket as a batsman. This needs to be acknowledged. The positions that he gets into while batting in T20 are not really going to give him alot of big boundaries. Should stick to ODI and Test. He can be a good enough player in both those formats for Pakistan.
 
I never understand this. Pakistan is in the final inspite of Agha not beacuse of Agha. Not many captains have such a horrible strike rate in Asia cup history. From pakistan lala has company for him.

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Since there is no more rivalry we dont need our best Xi for final, Agha can rest and let Hasan Nawaz play instead.
 
This experiment needs to end. This guy is apparently our best player of spin bowling. An absolute joke.
 
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