Why Italians looks similar to Pakistanis?

[NishanKonar]

Cause Pakistanis aren't just from Lahore. Indians always use their northernmost examples and take the easternmost examples from Pakistan, the average Indian isn't Punjabi - only 2% of Indians are Punjabi, to give you an idea of how insignificant that is, 5% of Pakistanis speak Balochi which means a Pakistani is over twice as likely to be a Baloch than for an Indian to be a Punjabi. Most of India's population lies in the gangetic belt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIMARU_states

There are 3 times as many Bengalis in India than there are Punjabis so an Indian is more likely to resemble a Bangladeshi than a Pakistani but you never hear indians ever use these people as examples of India even though they are significantly more representative.

Pakistani Punjabis & Sndhis are almost 80% of Pakistan's population - they are genetically almost identical to North Indians ( Punjab / Haryana / UP / Himachal / Rajasthan / Gujarat ). There is enough genetic research to show that. Its not just Punjab. Haryana Jats & UP Brahmins have the highest Aryan / Steppe ancestor in whole subcontinent - more than Pashtun & Kalash people of Pakistan

North Indians comprise almost 40% of India's population - with very similar genetics to most Pakistani Punjabs & Sindhis

Bengalis are similar to Bangladeshis genetically & slightly different from North Indians - bcoz they have 15-20% Chinese ancestory

 

[NishanKonar]

The Dardic people in Pakistan (KPK, GB) definitely do look different to the north Indians.

Most players in the Pakistani cricket team don't look different to your average north indian, but guys like Shaheen, Afridi, Yasir, etc., do definitely look different to anyone from anywhere in India, except maybe the Kashmir valley, which is also the only place in India that has Dardic people. And I'm not just talking about skin complexion, talking about facial structure, hair colour, colour of pupils, etc., as well.

There are exceptions. Shaheen Afridi does look Caucasian but Rashid Khan & most Afghan players are Pashtun but he looks like typical North Indian

Just like Hritik Roshan looks like Greek god but most Punjab / Haryana people dont look like that

 

[Giannis]

Pakistani Punjabis & Sndhis are almost 80% of Pakistan's population - they are genetically almost identical to North Indians ( Punjab / Haryana / UP / Himachal / Rajasthan / Gujarat ).

Yeah but Punjabis are only 2% of India's population, you can't just group all north indians together when they can be very different from each other. I looked up your last name and it turns out your Tamily so that's probably why you think it's convenient to group all north indians together. Also Punjabis and Sindhis together are more like 60-70% of the population or less, you're ignoring the Seraikis who are considered a separate ethnicity in Pakistan. Even if we go by your estimates, you need to realize that Punjabi & Sindhi are linguistic identities in Pakistan, many Punjabis and Sindhis were settlers from other places that adopted the local language - for example, around 40% of Sindhis are Baloch, close to half of Seraikis are Baloch (There are 30-40 million people of Baloch origin in the Indus plains) then there are several Pashtuns and Kashmiris in Punjab who are considered Punjabi now for cultural reasons. Like I said before, most Indians aren't Punjabi. India has more Bengalis than Punjab, an India is more likely to be south indian than Punjabi ( 250 million South Indians vs only 30 million Punjabis in India).

 

[street cricketer]

There are quite a few Pakistani cricketers of Dardic descent but they don't really stand out from the average Pakistani.

In general, I've found that the Pashtuns tend to stand out among Pakistanis in terms of their looks and appearance. Baloch are a mixed bag, I've seen pictures of Balochs who don't look that different to the rest of the Pakistanis.

 

[Giannis]

In general, I've found that the Pashtuns tend to stand out among Pakistanis in terms of their looks and appearance. Baloch are a mixed bag, I've seen pictures of Balochs who don't look that different to the rest of the Pakistanis.

Yeah, I'm not talking about Pashtuns. Northern Dardic people do stand out but Kashmiris generally don't look too different from Punjabis.

 

[NishanKonar]

Yeah but Punjabis are only 2% of India's population, you can't just group all north indians together when they can be very different from each other. I looked up your last name and it turns out your Tamily so that's probably why you think it's convenient to group all north indians together. Also Punjabis and Sindhis together are more like 60-70% of the population or less, you're ignoring the Seraikis who are considered a separate ethnicity in Pakistan. Even if we go by your estimates, you need to realize that Punjabi & Sindhi are linguistic identities in Pakistan, many Punjabis and Sindhis were settlers from other places that adopted the local language - for example, around 40% of Sindhis are Baloch, close to half of Seraikis are Baloch (There are 30-40 million people of Baloch origin in the Indus plains) then there are several Pashtuns and Kashmiris in Punjab who are considered Punjabi now for cultural reasons. Like I said before, most Indians aren't Punjabi. India has more Bengalis than Punjab, an India is more likely to be south indian than Punjabi ( 250 million South Indians vs only 30 million Punjabis in India).

Lol. I am part North Indian from Punjab from my father's side & part Bengali from my mom's side . There is absolutely no Tamil ancestry in my family ( not even close ) . My name " Nishan " is one of the holiest symbols in Sikhism. My father's side migrated from what's now Pakistani Punjab

U seriously have no idea about Indians or our culture

 

[street cricketer]

Yeah, I'm not talking about Pashtuns. Northern Dardic people do stand out but Kashmiris generally don't look too different from Punjabis.

That depends on whether you mean Kashmiri by the political classification or ethnic classification. For me, everyone in J and K would be a Kashmiri, but I've seen Kashmiri muslims say only those in the valley of Kashmir are ethnically Kashmiris.

So the people of Kargil are more related to the Balti people than Kashmiris even though they're muslims, the Hindu Pandits in Kashmir are ethnically Kashmiris but their hindu counterparts in Jammu are more Dogri. The muslims in Jammu are more likely to be Gujjar muslims than Kashmiri muslims. Ladakh is totally different and has more sino tibetan people. And the people in Pakistani side of Kashmir are more related to Punjab than Kashmir, unless you have displaced ethnic Kashmiris from the partition or afterwards.

 

[Giannis]

That depends on whether you mean Kashmiri by the political classification or ethnic classification. For me, everyone in J and K would be a Kashmiri, but I've seen Kashmiri muslims say only those in the valley of Kashmir are ethnically Kashmiris.

I'm talking about people that have ethnic Kashmiri roots. A lot of Indians don't know this but there are several million people in Pakistan Punjab that have origins from the Kashmir valley - there were large waves of migrations between 1820 and 1948. I would never refer to pahari speakers as "dardic".

 

[street cricketer]

I'm talking about people that have ethnic Kashmiri roots. A lot of Indians don't know this but there are several million people in Pakistan Punjab that have origins from the Kashmir valley - there were large waves of migrations between 1820 and 1948. I would never refer to pahari speakers as "dardic".

Well I did mention the migrated/displaced ethnic kashmiris bit in my post.

And when did I say the pahari people were dards. I just said some might have similar looks and that's about it

 

[Giannis]

Well I did mention the migrated/displaced ethnic kashmiris bit in my post.

And when did I say the pahari people were dards. I just said some might have similar looks and that's about it

You only mentioned migrated Kashmiris from the "partition afterward", when in reality the diaspora was established between 1820 and 1948. There are quite a few Pakistani players from this community.

 

[street cricketer]

You only mentioned migrated Kashmiris from the "partition afterward", when in reality the diaspora was established between 1820 and 1948. There are quite a few Pakistani players from this community.

What were the reasons for large scale migrations to Punjab?

 

[Giannis]

What were the reasons for large scale migrations to Punjab?

Started with the Sikh rule in Kashmir in 1820, there was high taxtation and persecution under Ranjit Singh, Then from 1846 onwards the Hindu Dogras took over and they were even more oppressive, many Kashmiri Muslims were killed, they were heavily taxed and treated like second class citizens, this forced a mass exodus to Punjab and to a lesser extent to KPK. Just 4 days ago was the 90th anniversary of Kashmir martyrs day when some Muslim protestors were killed in Kashmir.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Started with the Sikh rule in Kashmir in 1820, there was high taxtation and persecution under Ranjit Singh,

Is that what they taught your dad when he was in Pakistan ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

So this thread is still going, good to see...


To Conclude it is best to say: Some Pakistanis look like Italians while the majority dont...

 

[amax]

In general, I've found that the Pashtuns tend to stand out among Pakistanis in terms of their looks and appearance. Baloch are a mixed bag, I've seen pictures of Balochs who don't look that different to the rest of the Pakistanis.

I personally think this is median look of pakistani Punjabis , saying that punjabis are diverse , as they can range from tamil looking (umar akmal??) to almost Pashtun looking(fazal mehmood)

this picture is from gujranwala in Pakistan Punjab

these are pakistani pashtuns from swat

these are sindhis

people who stand out the most in pakistan are dardic people of chitral and gilgit and even they make rougly 3% of population which is non neglible

 

[street cricketer]

I personally think this is median look of pakistani Punjabis , saying that punjabis are diverse , as they can range from tamil looking (umar akmal??) to almost Pashtun looking(fazal mehmood)

this picture is from gujranwala in Pakistan Punjab

these are pakistani pashtuns from swat

these are sindhis

people who stand out the most in pakistan are dardic people of chitral and gilgit and even they make rougly 3% of population which is non neglible

I get that each ethnicity in Pakistan has a distinct look. I just said that the Pakthuns tend to stand out in terms of overall looks you find in south asia. Obviosuly Dardic people stand out way different. In India's case, the north easterners tend to have looks that stand out in south asia, and you could probably mistake a few for south east asians.

 

[amax]

I get that each ethnicity in Pakistan has a distinct look. I just said that the Pakthuns tend to stand out in terms of overall looks you find in south asia. Obviosuly Dardic people stand out way different. In India's case, the north easterners tend to have looks that stand out in south asia, and you could probably mistake a few for south east asians.

yeah india in certain ways is more diverse than pakistan , because of north east component , e.g you can map a punjabi to a pashtun by making him lighter , but you cant never do it to north east person as their features are way too different.

 

[street cricketer]

yeah india in certain ways is more diverse than pakistan , because of north east component , e.g you can map a punjabi to a pashtun by making him lighter , but you cant never do it to north east person as their features are way too different.

It's not just about the skin colour with regards to Pashtuns. But Pashtuns have a typical rugged facial look, it's almost as if they look a bit older than what they're actually (mind goes to the Afghan cricketers). And you can find plenty of fair skinned south indians too, but they would mostly have black hair, whereas hair colour of Pashtuns may range from black to brown to reddish brown hues and pupils tend can be on the lighter side as well whereas it's mostly black or brown for Indians.

 

[amax]

It's not just about the skin colour with regards to Pashtuns. But Pashtuns have a typical rugged facial look, it's almost as if they look a bit older than what they're actually (mind goes to the Afghan cricketers). And you can find plenty of fair skinned south indians too, but they would mostly have black hair, whereas hair colour of Pashtuns may range from black to brown to reddish brown hues and pupils tend can be on the lighter side as well whereas it's mostly black or brown for Indians.

people from mountains generally have rugged features compared to those living in plains , also rural vs urban lifestyle also plays its role , pashtuns are also genetically less ASI than even northernmost indo aryans , so genetic component is also there

these indian farmers from recent protests are showing more similarities to pashtuns than other indians

 

[Giannis]

Is that what they taught your dad when he was in Pakistan ?

These are documented historical facts. You can try to be funnier irl instead of trying to seek approval from people on an internet forum.

 

[MenInG]

With all respect to some of our best posting minds on PP, I just dont know what this thread is trying to say!

Some people say I resemble Adonis.

As they say, bolnay mai kiya harj hai

 

[Romali_rotti]

These are documented historical facts. You can try to be funnier irl instead of trying to seek approval from people on an internet forum.

Yeah ofcourse.

There are historical facts,

then there are historical facts taught in Pakistani school curriculum

 

[Giannis]

Yeah ofcourse.

There are historical facts,

then there are historical facts taught in Pakistani school curriculum

These are documented historical facts that even non-Kashmiris can verify. If you can't contribute substance to this forum other than oddly immature comments and corny jokes that no one else laughs at, I'd suggest getting out sometime.

 

[Romali_rotti]

These are documented historical facts that even non-Kashmiris can verify. If you can't contribute substance to this forum other than oddly immature comments and corny jokes that no one else laughs at, I'd suggest getting out sometime.

Listen kid, you seem to think I care about your opinion,, I don't.. If you too sensitive after reading my posts, you should put me on Ignore..

There is also verified info which says opposite to what is taught in the Pakistani curriculum

 

[OMB]

To me, most pakistanis look like Indians and those who do not look like Afghans.

 

[Realromeo]

Very few Pakistanis look like White. Most just look like Indians. Funny thing is lot of Pakistanis think they don't have accents for some reason. Ha Ha

 

[Colorblind Genius]

 

[sweep_shot]

Italians have similarities with desi people in terms of behaviors. Both are emotional.

Regarding looks, they definitely have similarities with certain types of Pakistanis.