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Why no Indian or Indian origin man features in the list of distinguished MMA or Boxing fighters?

It’s not a big deal.

MMA is not a famous traditional sport and hence is not a priority for many nations.

There is also a genuine arguement for abolishment of violent and traditionally drug abusing sports like MMA. Great entertainment for those who like savagery but not a great contribution to mankind from a health or culture point of view.

Majority of MMA fighters end up abusing their bodies beyond repair, have miserable personal lives and are often not great role models either.

I vouch for investments in sports in India purely from the point of view of building a healthy nations and for the cultures. MMA doesn’t feature in my priority.
 
Bhaijaan said:
It’s not a big deal.

MMA is not a famous traditional sport and hence is not a priority for many nations.

There is also a genuine arguement for abolishment of violent and traditionally drug abusing sports like MMA. Great entertainment for those who like savagery but not a great contribution to mankind from a health or culture point of view.

Majority of MMA fighters end up abusing their bodies beyond repair, have miserable personal lives and are often not great role models either.

I vouch for investments in sports in India purely from the point of view of building a healthy nations and for the cultures. MMA doesn’t feature in my priority.
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Sensible post @Bhaijaan

Even though I am a big fan of MMA, I cannot pretend it is a healthy sport. It is there because man has an innate appetite for violence, which in a responsible society would not be indulged for profit.
 
Robbie said:
And Pakistanis should get back to goats or grooming little children in London..
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.. or scamming their way into UFC as well so they can kick the snot out of this dude. I am sure it would be a walk in the park for the more strongly built pakistanis.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Interesting you should say that. My father's side of the family are from rural area (so in fact @Romali_rotti's constant pind 'insults' are accurate) and when I was there as a teenager you got to see first hand how physically intimidating the guys were, all 6ftrs and very lean and strong. But they ate very clean food which they produced themselves and this probably had a bearing. Next generations have moved to the city and are chowing on the same junk food as their western counterparts and hence the diabetes explosion. It's kind of ironic that the less well educated paindu grandmothers knew more about food health than today's city slicker Pakistanis.
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No its not that. The food villagers eat in Pakistan, which they proudly claim to be healthy is actually not entirely healthy. YES, its clean and pure and unadulterated, free of preservatives, etc but in context of what I had said in my post: it is the actual cuisine we have. and its the same in rural or urban areas.

we eat a lot of rice and roti and they are both heavy in carbs, designed to fill a lot of stomachs with little, because we, indians, banglas, lankas, etc are all from poor nations with a lot of mouths to feed and not enough resources.

Now the reason people in the villages remain healthy and managed to have overall superior physical characteristics is because of their lifestyle. Historically, its extremely tough work out in the fields. and physical labor helps burn off all the carbs. but there does cone a point where it has the same adverse effects on you, particularly in old age.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Indians always boast as some people of greatest physical strength yet it is astonishing to note that no Indian or Indian origin fighter makes it to the list of elite fighters in the realm of boxing and MMA.

So what exactly are the reasons behind India's lack of fame and mark in the real wrestling industry? Is it because of mental brittleness, lack of proper technique, funding issues or insufficient physical toughness. So enlist below the actual reason behind India's lack of limelight in the real wrestling industry.
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OP asked a genuine question, but as always, a few insecure souls derailed the thread by dragging Pakistan into it. These days, many Indians carry a superiority complex fueled by the fake image created by Godi media. Phrases like 'vishwaguru', 'danka baj raha hai', 'superpower bharat' and 'laal aankh' are prime examples. Even Indians abroad buy into this illusion, until reality hits and they get humbled. :inti
 
Bhaijaan said:
It’s not a big deal.

MMA is not a famous traditional sport and hence is not a priority for many nations.

There is also a genuine arguement for abolishment of violent and traditionally drug abusing sports like MMA. Great entertainment for those who like savagery but not a great contribution to mankind from a health or culture point of view.

Majority of MMA fighters end up abusing their bodies beyond repair, have miserable personal lives and are often not great role models either.

I vouch for investments in sports in India purely from the point of view of building a healthy nations and for the cultures. MMA doesn’t feature in my priority.
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well that sounds wonderful!

So when exactly are you planning to run for the post of the PM of India, just asking so we know when to start giving 2 (letters between E and G) about your intellectual views on the topic
 
Stewie said:
well that sounds wonderful!

So when exactly are you planning to run for the post of the PM of India, just asking so we know when to start giving 2 (letters between E and G) about your intellectual views on the topic
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@Bhaijaan is nearing retirement with 69k posts. Only after that can he run for PM of India. He will most probably pass the torch to @TexasRattlesnake to keep us entertained. :inti
 
2 fighters winning UFC championship belts, the highest prize in MMA currently, fighting with Palestinian flag around them in the name of Islam #Alhamdullilah #PalestineActionProtest 😌
 
Stewie said:
well that sounds wonderful!

So when exactly are you planning to run for the post of the PM of India, just asking so we know when to start giving 2 (letters between E and G) about your intellectual views on the topic
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Do know that India has started taking sports far more seriously than in the past. Over the last decade, significant funding has gone into building sports academies and improving infrastructure with the clear aim of enhancing athlete participation and ultimately increasing our medal tally in global events.

But it’s important to remember, changes of this scale don’t happen overnight, especially in a country where there hasn’t traditionally been a strong sports culture.

We are not China, where children are pushed from an early age into highly regimented medal-focused training regardless of if they even like the sport that much. India is a gigantic democracy where transformation happens gradually. Small nudges, once multiplied across a nation of 1.4 billion people, lead to massive change over time and that process is very much underway.

Speaking personally, for me it isn’t just about the medals. What I deeply admire about many Western nations is how they’ve integrated sports into the very fabric of everyday life. Sports there are not only about competition; they’re about health, family bonding, and building community. Families take part in activities like tennis, skiing, cycling, swimming, or surfing, not necessarily to produce champions, but to enjoy time together and cultivate a shared culture of activity. That, in my opinion, is the best use of sports, as a tool for well-being, social connection, and a stronger society.

Of course, there will always be people who crave the adrenaline rush of pushing human capabilities to the extreme. For them, niche and high-intensity sports like MMA provide a platform to showcase their passion to the world, and there will always be an audience for that including myself. But I see that as a different domain altogether, distinct from the role of general sports in everyday life.

Take wrestling in Haryana, for example. It became a massive phenomenon, producing world-class athletes and bringing recognition to the region. Yet it also came with darker sides. Our once-celebrated Olympic medalist, Sushil Kumar, is now serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a murder tied to gang culture. Sadly, this isn’t an isolated case globally, there’s extensive research showing how athletes in violent or substance-abuse-prone sports often suffer long-term mental and social deterioration.

So while medals and achievements on the world stage are important, the real victory for India would be when sports become a natural part of everyday life for ordinary families not just a spectacle of glory but a culture of fitness, joy, and togetherness. That’s the end goal.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Do know that India has started taking sports far more seriously than in the past. Over the last decade, significant funding has gone into building sports academies and improving infrastructure with the clear aim of enhancing athlete participation and ultimately increasing our medal tally in global events.

But it’s important to remember, changes of this scale don’t happen overnight, especially in a country where there hasn’t traditionally been a strong sports culture.

We are not China, where children are pushed from an early age into highly regimented medal-focused training regardless of if they even like the sport that much. India is a gigantic democracy where transformation happens gradually. Small nudges, once multiplied across a nation of 1.4 billion people, lead to massive change over time and that process is very much underway.

Speaking personally, for me it isn’t just about the medals. What I deeply admire about many Western nations is how they’ve integrated sports into the very fabric of everyday life. Sports there are not only about competition; they’re about health, family bonding, and building community. Families take part in activities like tennis, skiing, cycling, swimming, or surfing, not necessarily to produce champions, but to enjoy time together and cultivate a shared culture of activity. That, in my opinion, is the best use of sports, as a tool for well-being, social connection, and a stronger society.

Of course, there will always be people who crave the adrenaline rush of pushing human capabilities to the extreme. For them, niche and high-intensity sports like MMA provide a platform to showcase their passion to the world, and there will always be an audience for that including myself. But I see that as a different domain altogether, distinct from the role of general sports in everyday life.

Take wrestling in Haryana, for example. It became a massive phenomenon, producing world-class athletes and bringing recognition to the region. Yet it also came with darker sides. Our once-celebrated Olympic medalist, Sushil Kumar, is now serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a murder tied to gang culture. Sadly, this isn’t an isolated case globally, there’s extensive research showing how athletes in violent or substance-abuse-prone sports often suffer long-term mental and social deterioration.

So while medals and achievements on the world stage are important, the real victory for India would be when sports become a natural part of everyday life for ordinary families not just a spectacle of glory but a culture of fitness, joy, and togetherness. That’s the end goal.
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Do you know that I actually did not read any of it past the first three words?

Just saying so you can feel really warm an fuzzy about writing all of it. :yahoo
 
They are used to with 5-on-1, 10-on-1, 50-on-1 etc.

In MMA/UFC, it is 1-on-1. So, it is a problem for them. They are not used to with fairness. :inti
 
India has some Mma fighters coming through, one from kashmir but can't remember his name, another few years and more talent should come through in MMa and possibly boxing, Wrestling they have plenty of wrestlers but at the elite level there is so many countries with elite level wrestlers especially from the caucasus region, its hard to beat them guys.
 
sweep_shot said:
India and fighting do not go together. Whether it is a war (like Operation Tandoor) or street fight.

Indians can't fight one-on-one. They always have to gang up 5-on-1, 7-on-1, 10-on-1 etc. Pretty cowardly. :inti

It is probably because many of them don't eat meat and it is hard to fight if you do not eat meat.
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25000 to Millions - and the British still won.
 
The 90% of cult Indians can't answer the question in the OP cos the same 90% despise their country and are bailing SupaPuwa India in their droves.

Indians aren't built to fight let alone stand up for what they believe in. Heck, even their AF pilots can't dog fight without surrendering 6 jets then begging for a ceasefire.

India is a joke, just ask the 90% fleeing 'incredible' India.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Do know that India has started taking sports far more seriously than in the past. Over the last decade, significant funding has gone into building sports academies and improving infrastructure with the clear aim of enhancing athlete participation and ultimately increasing our medal tally in global events.

But it’s important to remember, changes of this scale don’t happen overnight, especially in a country where there hasn’t traditionally been a strong sports culture.

We are not China, where children are pushed from an early age into highly regimented medal-focused training regardless of if they even like the sport that much. India is a gigantic democracy where transformation happens gradually. Small nudges, once multiplied across a nation of 1.4 billion people, lead to massive change over time and that process is very much underway.

Speaking personally, for me it isn’t just about the medals. What I deeply admire about many Western nations is how they’ve integrated sports into the very fabric of everyday life. Sports there are not only about competition; they’re about health, family bonding, and building community. Families take part in activities like tennis, skiing, cycling, swimming, or surfing, not necessarily to produce champions, but to enjoy time together and cultivate a shared culture of activity. That, in my opinion, is the best use of sports, as a tool for well-being, social connection, and a stronger society.

Of course, there will always be people who crave the adrenaline rush of pushing human capabilities to the extreme. For them, niche and high-intensity sports like MMA provide a platform to showcase their passion to the world, and there will always be an audience for that including myself. But I see that as a different domain altogether, distinct from the role of general sports in everyday life.

Take wrestling in Haryana, for example. It became a massive phenomenon, producing world-class athletes and bringing recognition to the region. Yet it also came with darker sides. Our once-celebrated Olympic medalist, Sushil Kumar, is now serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a murder tied to gang culture. Sadly, this isn’t an isolated case globally, there’s extensive research showing how athletes in violent or substance-abuse-prone sports often suffer long-term mental and social deterioration.

So while medals and achievements on the world stage are important, the real victory for India would be when sports become a natural part of everyday life for ordinary families not just a spectacle of glory but a culture of fitness, joy, and togetherness. That’s the end goal.
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Performance enhancing drugs mate..... Its a serious issue that Neeraj Chjopra is trying to raise.

www.livemint.com

Neeraj Chopra raises alarm over doping among Indian athletes: ‘Once doping is in the mind...’ | Mint

Neeraj Chopra discusses the urgent need to combat doping in Indian sports, stressing that athletes must focus on dedication and proper guidance instead of performance-enhancing drugs. He believes this shift will elevate the country's sports performance.
www.livemint.com www.livemint.com
 
IronShield said:
Performance enhancing drugs mate..... Its a serious issue that Neeraj Chjopra is trying to raise.

www.livemint.com

Neeraj Chopra raises alarm over doping among Indian athletes: ‘Once doping is in the mind...’ | Mint

Neeraj Chopra discusses the urgent need to combat doping in Indian sports, stressing that athletes must focus on dedication and proper guidance instead of performance-enhancing drugs. He believes this shift will elevate the country's sports performance.
www.livemint.com www.livemint.com
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Most Indians can't do anything without cheating I guess. :inti

They won 2025 CT by cheating. They also did cheating in 2024 World T20. They tried the same in 2023 WC but it backfired as Aussies were too good.

I remember I once took a Java course in college and Indian students were cheating when instructor went outside for a bit. I was shocked. It was unfair for non-Indian students (including me) who didn't cheat. I guess that's how they often get good grades (through cheating). :inti:inti

It has gotten to a point where Indians need to be double checked/triple checked. They have a poor record when it comes to integrity. :inti
 
Lol look at the Pakistani coping.

Other Muslim nationalities or British Pakistanis are NOT Pakistani.

Pakistani wrestlers/boxers fare very poorly, not even qualifying for stuff like the Olympics and when they do face Idnian fighters, get their asses kicked.

Don't hide behind Dagestanis.

Indian wrestlers teching Pakistani wrestlers

 
Technics 1210 said:
The 90% of cult Indians can't answer the question in the OP cos the same 90% despise their country and are bailing SupaPuwa India in their droves.

Indians aren't built to fight let alone stand up for what they believe in. Heck, even their AF pilots can't dog fight without surrendering 6 jets then begging for a ceasefire.

India is a joke, just ask the 90% fleeing 'incredible' India.
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Lol khayali pulao. Pakistanis make their own happiness.

Pakistan is the joke.

Getting 20+ terrorist hideouts and air bases bombed while couldn't even retaliate.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
Strange guy.

Combat sports are the most difficult to excel at the high level but many find pretending to be MMA or boxing athletes as some sort fake glory.

Its unlikely you will see an Indian as champion in UFC in a lifetime.
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Lol as if Pakistanis have been UFC champions.

Pakistanis do worse than Indians in every combat sport, including wrestling where Indians are perennial Olympic/World Championship medalists while Pakistanis don't even qualify.
 
@Bhaijaan check out post 81 and this 👇
tribune.com.pk

Pakistani boxer Shahir Afridi knocks out unbeaten Indian boxer in Thailand | The Express Tribune

Referee was forced to stop bout after assessing Indian boxer’s deteriorating condition following punishing third round
tribune.com.pk tribune.com.pk

TexasRattlesnake said:
Don't hide behind Dagestan because of "ummah".

What have Pakistanis done lol.

Paksitanis always making new because they themselves get curb stomped by Indians everytime.
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TexasRattlesnake said:
Lol as if Pakistanis have been UFC champions.

Pakistanis do worse than Indians in every combat sport, including wrestling where Indians are perennial Olympic/World Championship medalists while Pakistanis don't even qualify.
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I never said Pakistani will be UFC champ.

Amir Khan and Hamzah Sheeraz are just two names of British Pakistani superstar boxers. Name 1 Indian?
 
To be a champion at a young age comes from a culture of grappling, wrestling, Martial Arts and even Pakistan doesn't have it in all parts and India has "almost" none. The physical Muslim culture in the Caucus, Black sea region, Anatolia doesn't exist (across whole of) Pakistan or India.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Bhaijaan, is this the same Sushil Kumar who went to jail for a murder case? Was he truly a pure sanatani wrestler? :inti @KingKhanWC

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He even had the audacity to click like on one of his own alt account posts 😂

@Bhaijaan na kar yaar. Retire in peace if you have to retire, if you don’t want to retire, then stay- it doesn’t matter. But don’t try to prolong your stay with these alter egos to talk smack while keeping your real account clean and proper
:misbah
 
Fighting in a cage like animals, bloodied and beaten to the pulp... All for what? To prove that you are manly?

Even if an individual from a country is a UFC or MMA champion, it does not mean everyone in that country can be like him.

These kinds of extreme contact sports can cause brain damage. The effects of it will not be felt until a little later in the age.

How many of the people here who are questioning Indians actually fought professionally? I bet it is none. But it is nice to troll India when their own country has produced zilch.
 
LordJames said:
To be a champion at a young age comes from a culture of grappling, wrestling, Martial Arts and even Pakistan doesn't have it in all parts and India has "almost" none. The physical Muslim culture in the Caucus, Black sea region, Anatolia doesn't exist (across whole of) Pakistan or India.
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India has no culture of grappling?

If you don't know, at lease do a basic google search before posting. Haryana has a rich culture of wrestling and it has produced many athletes that won medals at highest stage for India.

May be Pakistan does not have grappling culture. I don't know. But India definitely has it.
 
Champ_Pal said:
What has his assault case got to do with the medals he won for India?

Its okay to troll India. But this is silly from you. Demeaning the achievements of your country men. :mv
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Yeah, you are right. I shouldn't have confirmed the identity of a guy who went to jail for murder. After all, he didn't demean a whole country's achievements by killing someone, but I did, just by confirming who he was. Brilliant andhbhakt logic. :bow: :inti
 
I delayed my reply to not get unnecessarily triggered and contribute to another troll post.

Sports culture in India is entirely regional apart from Cricket. Somehow, cricket is the only pan-Indian sport.
Kabaddi, CoCo, Badminton etc were played prominently as kids be it lack of infrastructure / grounds and also convenience in Southern parts of India.

Contact sports are not part of our culture at-least in Andhra / Telangana but Kerala had their own martial arts called ‘Kalari’ but I doubt it has prominence as people start doing other sports / martial arts.

I think Punjab has a prominent Wrestling culture but boxing hasn't been mainstream as much.

And I don't think It lack of strength or anything, but parents don't encourage violent sports especially down South. Injury costs and insurance are still not easily economical for everyone. And rewards for it is limited as mainstream money is not there at all. So, there is absolutely ZERO incentive for young people to get into either MMA/Boxing.
 
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