Syed1
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Doesn't look like the smartest player around, teams are going to set plans for him and he will fall for it.
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Doesn't look like the smartest player around, teams are going to set plans for him and he will fall for it.
sharjeel khan is bradman compared to fakhar.he is a classic example of hack who had so much luck in every innings of champions trophy.
even in final he was scoring at 50 strike rate untill he played 50 balls after which he got going against indian spinners.
He will score a century in one of the next 2 games.
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His fluke century in the CT final, where he should've been out, has inflated his skills in the eyes of fans, but he is still a very good player for our standards, filled the hole sharjee left behind as he is an attacking batsman and that is valuable in these flat roads.
It means he was out, no ball was an external factor and luck.Why should he have been out? It was a no ball. Should Kholi have walked when he edged Amir to Azhar Ali?
Itching to get that off your chest weren't you? Fakhar will still smack your mediocre bowling around for fun.sharjeel khan is bradman compared to fakhar.he is a classic example of hack who had so much luck in every innings of champions trophy.
even in final he was scoring at 50 strike rate untill he played 50 balls after which he got going against indian spinners.
Itching to get that off your chest weren't you? Fakhar will still smack your mediocre bowling around for fun.
June 18 still hurts![]()
Of course it hurts. Does it hurt still about Ireland knocking Pakistan out of the 2007 WC? Upsets and shock losses will always stick in the craw, especially against rivals.
Pakistan beat India in 2017 CT and proved themselves as the better ODI team
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Yes, I made a bet and held my end up. Keeping your word is something all should try and do.
One word to describe Fakhar - impatient.
He needs to realise occupying the crease is important too. Once he starts doing that his SR will stabilise in it's natural peak and he won't have to worry about playing catchup.
It means he was out, no ball was an external factor and luck.
I never rate innings where players get dropped through dollies or where they should have been out but massive luck saved them.
All it shows is a lucky batsman.
Anyways, it's early days for Fakhar, hopefully he keeps working on his game so other teams can't take advantage of his weaknesses.
It took an awful lot of prompting from memory.
One word to describe Fakhar - impatient.
He needs to realise occupying the crease is important too. Once he starts doing that his SR will stabilise in it's natural peak and he won't have to worry about playing catchup.
Isn't it the nature of the role we're asking him to perform - we want him to be this madcap, daredevil hitter at the top of the order getting us off to a flyer and taking the opposition attack on in the first powerplay overs like we saw in the CT. But these type of batsmen aren't going to be consistent.
Look at Sanath Jayasuriya who averaged 32 in ODIs, McCullum averages 30. I'm not putting Fakhar Zaman in that class but these batsmen will frustrate - they will get out to rash shots and whilst having memorable peaks (June 18th) will also have some troughs.
We have a ton of "patient" grafting batsmen already, and are lacking in batsmen capable of smacking a 30 ball fifty especially with bans to Sharjeel, Latif and Shahzaib. Sahibzada Farhan is still raw. Fahim is a powerhitter but when do we need four pacers in Asia ?
Where Fakhar is fortunate is unlike the past where so many young Pakistani batsmen have shown initial promise but as soon as bowlers worked them out went downhill quickly, we have a relatively more professional setup. The captain backs him and Mickey Arthur is someone who, despite having a torrid time at Australia, oversaw David Warner's rise and has a record of player development.
Opposition pacers are working him over, they're bringing the ball into him and cramping him for room to free his arms, frustrating him into rash shots against the spinners. Fakhar needs to show he can adapt and deal with attacks who are doing their homework against him. This is a test for him and the team management.
Going though the 2nd season syndrome. Arthur has adjusted so many things in his batting that it'll take a bit time; besides every team has decent idea of his range by now. If he returns back after settling with adjustments, he'll play for a decade, otherwise he'll have to have a luck like MoHa, Malik, Afridi ... for a longer career - that's selective performance & keeping numbers up based on whom you are playing against, where and when.
When he isn’t firing immediately, he should do what he did in the CT final.
He wasn’t able to get the pacers away initially but he stuck around and eventually piled up a big score.
He’s gotten impatient twice, and gotten out to Dananjaya in the same way. Maybe it’s because of the change in partner. Now that Azhar isn’t opening with him he might feel like he is the senior in the partnership.
i think more than that these pitches doesnt suit his style of play.he like the ball on the bat but these slow and low UAE pitches will not allow him and he does get frustrated so he tries to over hit spinner.is not it???
That's part of learning as well - in later part of his career, teams used to take pace out and Nazir was out almost every time pulling - top edged to mid wicket or deep mid on. He has to learn how adapt - at present Offies like Mosaddek, Rohit, Dhanajaya or Mahmudullah will bowl to him full quota, from round the wicket, cramping his bottom hand shots.
He did wait till the spinners came on to bowl in the last 2 games.
Problem is not impatience. Problem is the inability to tackle turning ball. Not a good player of spinner when turn is on offer.
He will have hard time to get spinners away in Asian conditions. Especially the ones that have a googly. He will be useful in England and Aus where the ball does not turn at all.
now off the topic but do u think pak has best attack in the world excluding the chucker.i think we have variety but bench strength is not good like other top teams?/
One of the best, for most condition top; but behind AUS in AUS.
why??/we need tall fast bowler and seam all rounder there??
Isn't it the nature of the role we're asking him to perform - we want him to be this madcap, daredevil hitter at the top of the order getting us off to a flyer and taking the opposition attack on in the first powerplay overs like we saw in the CT. But these type of batsmen aren't going to be consistent.
Look at Sanath Jayasuriya who averaged 32 in ODIs, McCullum averages 30. I'm not putting Fakhar Zaman in that class but these batsmen will frustrate - they will get out to rash shots and whilst having memorable peaks (June 18th) will also have some troughs.
We have a ton of "patient" grafting batsmen already, and are lacking in batsmen capable of smacking a 30 ball fifty especially with bans to Sharjeel, Latif and Shahzaib. Sahibzada Farhan is still raw. Fahim is a powerhitter but when do we need four pacers in Asia ?
Where Fakhar is fortunate is unlike the past where so many young Pakistani batsmen have shown initial promise but as soon as bowlers worked them out went downhill quickly, we have a relatively more professional setup. The captain backs him and Mickey Arthur is someone who, despite having a torrid time at Australia, oversaw David Warner's rise and has a record of player development.
Opposition pacers are working him over, they're bringing the ball into him and cramping him for room to free his arms, frustrating him into rash shots against the spinners. Fakhar needs to show he can adapt and deal with attacks who are doing their homework against him. This is a test for him and the team management.
He did wait till the spinners came on to bowl in the last 2 games.
Problem is not impatience. Problem is the inability to tackle turning ball. Not a good player of spinner when turn is on offer.
He will have hard time to get spinners away in Asian conditions. Especially the ones that have a googly. He will be useful in England and Aus where the ball does not turn at all.
Fakhar needs to adjust to slow pitches’
Fakhar Zaman, centurion in the 2017 Champions Trophy final, hasn’t been able to replicate the same flair in the ongoing ODI series, and Arthur believes he needs to learn to adjust to the pace in the pitch.
“It worries me that a good player like Fakhar is not able to score runs,” he said. “What Fakhar needs to learn is that he played on fast pitches in England, but in UAE the pitches are slow and don’t allow him to play much strokes.”
Arthur suggested Fakhar to rotate strike more to develop his game further. “He needs to learn to rotate strike a bit more, and needs to learn to take singles to get to the other end. That is going to be the key in the development of Fakhar if he wants to become a good batsman. He still is a key player for the team and after he plays the last ODI, he will be taking his form to the T20 series.”
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1538500/7-arthur-praises-sarfrazs-response-bookie/
I didn't watch much of the ODI series so didn't see Fakhar bat very much but in the T20I today it's clear there are some basic issues with his batting:
Head position all over the place
Too much bottom hand
Trying to smash every ball
Saj bhai. Leave him alone. Do you want another Shehzad to open?
I didn't watch much of the ODI series so didn't see Fakhar bat very much but in the T20I today it's clear there are some basic issues with his batting:
Head position all over the place
Too much bottom hand
Trying to smash every ball
Saj bhai. Leave him alone. Do you want another Shehzad to open?
It's not as though there are only two options for opening in the country.
He obviously has a role to play with regards to giving the innings momentum but while doing that, when he doesn't get deliveries in his zone then he starts trying to smash every ball to midwicket which hasn't really worked.
I think Fakhar should be given a long run.
After CT heroics he must have been floating over they clouds from all the reception and media attention. Give the guy a bit more time to settle back and refresh his mind.
He would probably never be able to outperform his CT final innings still he needs to keep a calm head and not over do it.
His role is to bash from the get go. Very difficult to maintain consistency when you are trying to hit everything out of the park.
When Fakhar is batting, you know that after playing 3 or 4 dots, the guy is going to do something stupid. He obviously has some difficulty playing pacers and spinners(when turn is on offer). His strengths are bashing darters and trundlers. Will still be a valuable piece in ODI arena for Pak.
May be Pak is looking at Fakhar as a filler until Sharjeel returns. It did wonders for Pak in CT.
I think Fakhar should be given a long run.
After CT heroics he must have been floating over they clouds from all the reception and media attention. Give the guy a bit more time to settle back and refresh his mind.
He would probably never be able to outperform his CT final innings still he needs to keep a calm head and not over do it.
It means he was out, no ball was an external factor and luck.
I never rate innings where players get dropped through dollies or where they should have been out but massive luck saved them.
All it shows is a lucky batsman.
Anyways, it's early days for Fakhar, hopefully he keeps working on his game so other teams can't take advantage of his weaknesses.
Who are these better players?Can't wait til his fans turn on him. It will happen. Nothing personal against him, it's just a bit annoying watching him play ahead of so many better players, the way Afridi did for over a decade. Zaman can't bowl, so he wont last as long as Afridi.
What external factor?
And what luck?
Incompetent bowler is not an external factor.
Who are these better players?
Farhan is untested even in domestic cricket. Umar Amin is a conventional stroke-player, not a dasher. Don't insult the fans' intelligence by mentioning Umar Akmal in a cricket discussion please.Farhan, Umar Amin to name a few. Umar Akmal is also an option.
Nothing is running out just these pitches in UAE are slow he needs to rotate strike as Mickey Arthur said but he is unable to resist his temptation of big shotsI fear time is running out for Fakhar. He played another poor shot and he is trying to hit every ball too hard. Basics flaws in his batting are creeping up.
Farhan, Umar Amin to name a few. Umar Akmal is also an option.
Remember South Africa's De Koch's early days when he kept on failing but he was persisted with. Pakistan think tank needs to show the same patience with F Zaman.
still averages 37 at 85 strike rate batting at no.6. Tell me about the stats of no.6 batsmen that replaced him? come on try!)
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Looked much better today and mainly played some decent shots before he was sold a dummy by his opening partner.
Looked much better today and mainly played some decent shots before he was sold a dummy by his opening partner.
But His feets moves nowhere while connecting ball