Will Imran Khan's PTI continue to remain a force in Pakistan politics?

[MenInG]

To many, Imran Khan's arrest spells the end of his career as a politician and the end of his party PTI's influence on Pakistan politics.

Some argue that the party has strong roots in Pakistan and will survive and continue to flourish

Where do you stand on this question?

 

[Sher Khan]

Anyone that thinks PTI has strong roots needs a huge reality check. The party only exists because of Imran Khan and the whole world knows that.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Party to flourish post Imran would need strong young leaders with public backing. The only such person that comes to mind is Murad Saeed who has a lot of public backing for him in Swat. Except him there are pockets with support for individuals but most of the support is only around Imran Khan. Imran Khan is like the magnet that has pulled together public and PTI, the onus is now on PTI members to step up and make their public support count.

If Imran is eliminated in this instance then there would be unfortunately no future for PTI long term.

 

[Abstraction1]

The issue is that the PPP and PMLN are too ingrained into the Pakistani Economy, Infrastructure and Institutions. Even the landowners in their Pockets. The Pakistani psyche is one of apathy.

The other issue is the Military heirachy is happy to entertain the PPP/PMLN shenanigans as it covers their own meddling and plans.

Imran Khan's success was due to his history snd reputation. He was one of the greatest figures in an entire Sport(Cricket) and used his platform to give back to Pakistan (Hospitals and charitable awareness).

You're talking about one in a handful of people in the modern era who transcended sport and politics. Even then the Population are too blindsided, ignorant and apathetic. They much rather pat themselves on the back for being born PaKhTuN, PuNjAbi, SiNdhI, BaLoCHi etc. Than actually doing something of any substance.

To summarise, so long as the Population will turn a blind eye to the rampant corruption and anarchy of PPP/PMLN's history since the 80s, I don't see anyone challenging the status quo. This goes beyond PTI

 

[MenInG]

This is a poll - please add your vote.

 

[Rana]

Party to flourish post Imran would need strong young leaders with public backing. The only such person that comes to mind is Murad Saeed who has a lot of public backing for him in Swat. Except him there are pockets with support for individuals but most of the support is only around Imran Khan. Imran Khan is like the magnet that has pulled together public and PTI, the onus is now on PTI members to step up and make their public support count.

If Imran is eliminated in this instance then there would be unfortunately no future for PTI long term.

Murad Saeed is a nutcase who only puts on a hardboy image because it sells well with the PTI youth/junoonis.

Would love to see him acting tough once Imran is gone

 

[Bewal Express]

Murad Saeed is a nutcase who only puts on a hardboy image because it sells well with the PTI youth/junoonis.

Would love to see him acting tough once Imran is gone

Muraad reps the new generation and will in time become an excellent leader. Its the reason the criminal Generals and their puppets want him dead. It would be better for Muraad to stay under ground until the things change. Its interesting that losers like you have no problem with criminal families but get agitated and angry, when ordinary people having the audacity to aspire to lead PK. I would say the same for Billo but ...........

 

[Bewal Express]

The issue is that the PPP and PMLN are too ingrained into the Pakistani Economy, Infrastructure and Institutions. Even the landowners in their Pockets. The Pakistani psyche is one of apathy.

The other issue is the Military heirachy is happy to entertain the PPP/PMLN shenanigans as it covers their own meddling and plans.

Imran Khan's success was due to his history snd reputation. He was one of the greatest figures in an entire Sport(Cricket) and used his platform to give back to Pakistan (Hospitals and charitable awareness).

You're talking about one in a handful of people in the modern era who transcended sport and politics. Even then the Population are too blindsided, ignorant and apathetic. They much rather pat themselves on the back for being born PaKhTuN, PuNjAbi, SiNdhI, BaLoCHi etc. Than actually doing something of any substance.

To summarise, so long as the Population will turn a blind eye to the rampant corruption and anarchy of PPP/PMLN's history since the 80s, I don't see anyone challenging the status quo. This goes beyond PTI

From where i come from there is commonly used phrase " pissing on someones parade". Well IK has done that with a mafia that subverted a whole country to serve it and not the people.

 

[Rana]

Muraad reps the new generation and will in time become an excellent leader. Its the reason the criminal Generals and their puppets want him dead. It would be better for Muraad to stay under ground until the things change. Its interesting that losers like you have no problem with criminal families but get agitated and angry, when ordinary people having the audacity to aspire to lead PK. I would say the same for Billo but ...........

Na I think he reps the hollow reality of the josh. Sorry to say it but he is a studio gangster

Muraad reps the new generation and will in time become an excellent leader. Its the reason the criminal Generals and their puppets want him dead. It would be better for Muraad to stay under ground until the things change. Its interesting that losers like you have no problem with criminal families but get agitated and angry, when ordinary people having the audacity to aspire to lead PK. You are born ghulam, a boot polisher, so stick to Nani and Junaid and their unborn. I would say the same for Billo but ...........

Murad is great for comic relief. Would love him to become the next PTI leader and watch him throw tantrums daily

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There was no need for PTI if the main parties led by the Bhuttos and the Sharifs were either competent or sincere. They have done nothing for Pakistan in half a century, I don't know what makes anyone think they will do it now. They'll maybe sign off on a few more international loans and divert a nice chunk of the funds into their foreign bank accounts.

 

[Savak]

IK survived as long as he did because of his Cricketing Superstardom. It will be better for PTI or another honest third political force to provide an alternative without IK's stardom as that way the scrutiny and expectations will be less and more grounded.

 

[Bewal Express]

IK survived as long as he did because of his Cricketing Superstardom. It will be better for PTI or another honest third political force to provide an alternative without IK's stardom as that way the scrutiny and expectations will be less and more grounded.

Who is going to be the honest 3rd force that has a profile to challenge the mafia and the Generals? Answers on post card

 

[I think therfore I am]

Who is going to be the honest 3rd force that has a profile to challenge the mafia and the Generals? Answers on post card

No one, the country is finished. Pakistanis deserves what is coming there way, self destruction!!!

 

[Hitman]

No one, the country is finished. Pakistanis deserves what is coming there way, self destruction!!!

You don't have hopes on the Sharif brothers?

 

[daytrader]

Pledging their loyalty and renewing their trust in Imran Khan, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) on Tuesday bestowed the lifelong title of party chairman upon the former premier.

The party also decided to challenge in the Supreme Court the decision of the Council of Common Interests (CCI) regarding the digital census, according to a statement of the PTI core committee.

The former premier was arrested and sent to Attock jail on Saturday hours after a trial court in Islamabad sentenced him to three years in prison while imposing on him a fine of Rs100,000 for “making false declarations” about his assets to the polls supervisory body.

PTI Vice Chairman Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Tuesday presided over an “important meeting” of the core committee in Lahore. The party unanimously passed a resolution stating that the post of PTI chairmanship would be reserved for party founder Imran Khan.

In view of the directives issued by the party chairman from jail, the committee decided to celebrate the Independence Day with full zeal and vehemence, and vowed to organise special events in Pakistan and around the world on the occasion.

Meanwhile, after approval from the PTI chief, the party decided to challenge the decision of the CCI in the apex court, and announced to defy every attempt to delay the upcoming general election with full legal and political resistance.

PTI affirms Imran Khan’s lifetime chairmanship | The Express Tribune

Core committee decides to challenge CCI decision on census in SC

tribune.com.pk

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Who is going to be the honest 3rd force that has a profile to challenge the mafia and the Generals? Answers on post card

Did you note how the poster could not provide any names or political institutions which could provide this pie in the sky 3rd party alternative? Just some vague hope that someone would appear from somewhere magically onto the scene, despite all evidence pointing to the likelihood that such an alternative would be wiped out by the vested parties who run the country at present.

These people know the reality, but they themselves are either shameless beneficiaries or just disconnected from ground realities of what the future holds for the nation.

 

[Bewal Express]

Did you note how the poster could not provide any names or political institutions which could provide this pie in the sky 3rd party alternative? Just some vague hope that someone would appear from somewhere magically onto the scene, despite all evidence pointing to the likelihood that such an alternative would be wiped out by the vested parties who run the country at present.

These people know the reality, but they themselves are either shameless beneficiaries or just disconnected from ground realities of what the future holds for the nation.

What the events have shown is that the Junta-Mafia is so strong that its nigh on impossible for PK to throw it off. If a man with 70-80% who has a world wide profile, the intellect,honesty and the humanity cant do it, then no one can.

 

[Rana]

What the events have shown is that the Junta-Mafia is so strong that its nigh on impossible for PK to throw it off. If a man with 70-80% who has a world wide profile, the intellect,honesty and the humanity cant do it, then no one can.

Yeah I guess no one can because Imran can’t? Imran’s been out of power for a while now

Pakistan has marched on since. It will continue

No man is bigger than any country. You need to snap out of it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yeah I guess no one can because Imran can’t? Imran’s been out of power for a while now

Pakistan has marched on since. It will continue

No man is bigger than any country. You need to snap out of it.

Marched on to where? Democracy? Free press? Human rights? Free Judiciary? A growing economy? Growing exports? A stronger Rp? As I said yesterday to you education is very important in understanding these things, or even just basic common sense.

 

[Rana]

Marched on to where? Democracy? Free press? Human rights? Free Judiciary? A growing economy? Growing exports? A stronger Rp? As I said yesterday to you education is very important in understanding these things, or even just basic common sense.

And they were growing with Khan in power? How exactly was he the saviour?

You have an education apparently, explain how Khan couldn’t manage to keep himself clean when in power and is now in Jail for breaking the law?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You don't have hopes on the Sharif brothers?

Have you noted that not even the most vocal critics of Imran Khan have failed to back either the Sharif brothers or the Bhutto clan on this thread?

 

[Bewal Express]

And they were growing with Khan in power? How exactly was he the saviour?

You have an education apparently, explain how Khan couldn’t manage to keep himself clean when in power and is now in Jail for breaking the law?

Yes. look it up. Press was free, he offered elections, and PK economy was stable and growing. The fact that you dont know these things( or you are just being obtuse) shows that education is desperately needed. And as far as the conviction is concerned, well the less said the better. The conviction has about much credibility as suggesting AA for captain

 

[Rana]

Yes. look it up. Press was free, he offered elections, and PK economy was stable and growing. The fact that you dont know these things( or you are just being obtuse) shows that education is desperately needed. And as far as the conviction is concerned, well the less said the better. The conviction has about much credibility as suggesting AA for captain

Grow up if you already haven’t.

The Press was not free. IK was selective on who can report and who couldn’t

The economy was stable???

Of course he offered Elections after viciously vilifying his opponents. Then again, elections are not his problem…playing by the laws of the country and not biting the hand that fed him (the Army) are his downfall.

My view is as ‘obtuse’ as yours because you cannot see any good besides Khan. Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

 

[Rana]

Have you noted that not even the most vocal critics of Imran Khan have failed to back either the Sharif brothers or the Bhutto clan on this thread?

Have you ever thought that the Sharifs or Bhuttos are hardly as dislikable as Khan is due to his arrogance?

 

[Bewal Express]

Grow up if you already haven’t.

The Press was not free. IK was selective on who can report and who couldn’t

The economy was stable???

Of course he offered Elections after viciously vilifying his opponents. Then again, elections are not his problem…playing by the laws of the country and not biting the hand that fed him (the Army) are his downfall.

My view is as ‘obtuse’ as yours because you cannot see any good besides Khan. Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

Thanks boot polisher. Why have all the channels been forced to stop reporting IKs name? He is banned from national TV? by whom and why? Why was Arshad murdered? where is Imran Riaz Khan? Why has there been no elections in Punjab and KP? Why have the SC orders been ignored? Education son.

 

[Bewal Express]

Grow up if you already haven’t.

The Press was not free. IK was selective on who can report and who couldn’t

The economy was stable???

Of course he offered Elections after viciously vilifying his opponents. Then again, elections are not his problem…playing by the laws of the country and not biting the hand that fed him (the Army) are his downfall.

My view is as ‘obtuse’ as yours because you cannot see any good besides Khan. Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

You are the guy that told us you didnt know anything about politics and then you would comment on every issue. I think you were trying to be clever, but actually you didnt know anything and you lie was wasted. Remember when i called you out on wanting to be educated( son i am educating you on not lying)

 

[Hextro]

Yeah I guess no one can because Imran can’t? Imran’s been out of power for a while now

Pakistan has marched on since. It will continue

No man is bigger than any country. You need to snap out of it.

"Marched on", lol. The country is in a state of collapse. The majority is suppressed and the common folk as struggling with 30% inflation. The government is in no mood of conducting elections thus Pakistan is an unofficial dictatorship as things stand.

Not surprised you consider this "marching on".

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Have you ever thought that the Sharifs or Bhuttos are hardly as dislikable as Khan is due to his arrogance?

What does likeable have to do with it? Would you prefer a nice friendly thief living in your home as a guest for a month, or an arrogant guest who had a reputation for honesty?

 

[Bewal Express]

What does likeable have to do with it? Would you prefer a nice friendly thief living in your home as a guest for a month, or an arrogant guest who had a reputation for honesty?

As the guy himself said he needs to be educated and doesnt know much.

 

[the Great Khan]

Yeah I guess no one can because Imran can’t? Imran’s been out of power for a while now

Pakistan has marched on since. It will continue

No man is bigger than any country. You need to snap out of it.

Marching on towards the abyss..OK smart mouth let's see if you really are as smart as you think..

Now tell me the ten things the current govt has done that has made life better for a common Pakistani. They have had nearly two years without any major global disaster or internal terror etc. And the full support of chacha jee and his babay. So how about you tell all of us here what a wonderful job shobaaz sarkaar has done..you have this thread and this forum to tell us..now don't veer off into whataboutery just give us the plain facts..

 

[KingKhanWC]

PTI will remain a popular party as the youth will continue to support it for many years to come.

Pakistan is done and dusted. Next step will be an economic disaster, bankruptcy, followed by Generals selling out Pakistani nuclear capability by 2030.

Imran has done his bit, the people are too scared to continue his mission.

 

[Rana]

You are the guy that told us you didnt know anything about politics and then you would comment on every issue. I think you were trying to be clever, but actually you didnt know anything and you lie was wasted. Remember when i called you out on wanting to be educated( son i am educating you on not lying)

What are you trying to even say? Kehna kya chaah rahe ho? You are educated but you called me out on wanting to be educated? What does that even mean?

 

[Rana]

What does likeable have to do with it? Would you prefer a nice friendly thief living in your home as a guest for a month, or an arrogant guest who had a reputation for honesty?

Isn’t that what Khan did and is in Jail for? Honest and arrogant thief?

 

[Rana]

Marching on towards the abyss..OK smart mouth let's see if you really are as smart as you think..

Now tell me the ten things the current govt has done that has made life better for a common Pakistani. They have had nearly two years without any major global disaster or internal terror etc. And the full support of chacha jee and his babay. So how about you tell all of us here what a wonderful job shobaaz sarkaar has done..you have this thread and this forum to tell us..now don't veer off into whataboutery just give us the plain facts..

First speak in a respectful manner and I will respond.

I belong to a civilised society where we address people in a kind, respectful and decent manner. Just because you disagree with me or the truth I speak, doesn’t give you the right to speak to me in a disdainful manner.

Pehle Tameez
Phir guftagoo

You have seen the results of badtameezi and arrogance. It doesn’t amount to anything but jail time

 

[Rana]

"Marched on", lol. The country is in a state of collapse. The majority is suppressed and the common folk as struggling with 30% inflation. The government is in no mood of conducting elections thus Pakistan is an unofficial dictatorship as things stand.

Not surprised you consider this "marching on".

Oh yes the country has collapsed…

Which country are you on about?

 

[Bewal Express]

What are you trying to even say? Kehna kya chaah rahe ho? You are educated but you called me out on wanting to be educated? What does that even mean?

No, you said to Kingkhan that you are here to learn BECAUSE YOU DIDNT ANYTHING ABOUT PK Politics. Well its a slow start but soon you will learn about the rule of law, the constitution, elections, ethics and human rights.

 

[Bewal Express]

First speak in a respectful manner and I will respond.

I belong to a civilised society where we address people in a kind, respectful and decent manner. Just because you disagree with me or the truth I speak, doesn’t give you the right to speak to me in a disdainful manner.

Pehle Tameez
Phir guftagoo

You have seen the results of badtameezi and arrogance. It doesn’t amount to anything but jail time

As soon you start to get called out you look to the Mods to delete the conversation.

 

[Rana]

As soon you start to get called out you look to the Mods to delete the conversation.

Don’t delete it

Nothing I have said is wrong. Some of you people need to learn to speak in a respectful manner. This comment can stay.

What has the disrespectful/abusive and insulting language achieved for your politicians? A jail sentence?

 

[Rana]

No, you said to Kingkhan that you are here to learn BECAUSE YOU DIDNT ANYTHING ABOUT PK Politics. Well its a slow start but soon you will learn about the rule of law, the constitution, elections, ethics and human rights.

Yeah and I don’t know and honestly I could care less.

What I do know is Imran Khan is not the messiah he is portrayed to be. Kill me for this view if you like.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Isn’t that what Khan did and is in Jail for? Honest and arrogant thief?

According to who? This is like saying Kashmir belongs rightfully to India because the leader of Kashmir was bribed to side with India at partition.

Leaders are ultimately judged by their actions and how they advance their nation. Pakistan has been led by the Sharifs and the Bhuttos for the majority of it's history. Can you deny both families became rich while the nation was led nowhere but a path to bankruptcy?

 

[Bewal Express]

Don’t delete it

Nothing I have said is wrong. Some of you people need to learn to speak in a respectful manner. This comment can stay.

What has the disrespectful/abusive and insulting language achieved for your politicians? A jail sentence?

What did he say that was so disrespectful? Was he wrong to call you smart mouth. i called out your lies many times. Do you deny that you claimed to be total novice about PK politics and was only here to learn? Why not be honest and give your views. We see 100s of you guys and they all start off with i dont know much or i was an IK supporter but.......

 

[Rana]

What did he say that was so disrespectful? Was he wrong to call you smart mouth. i called out your lies many times. Do you deny that you claimed to be total novice about PK politics and was only here to learn? Why not be honest and give your views. We see 100s of you guys and they all start off with i dont know much or i was an IK supporter but.......

Thanks boot polisher. Why have all the channels been forced to stop reporting IKs name? He is banned from national TV? by whom and why? Why was Arshad murdered? where is Imran Riaz Khan? Why has there been no elections in Punjab and KP? Why have the SC orders been ignored? Education son.

What is a boot polisher? Why do you call me that?

I am Alhamdolillah a substantial Tax contribute to the country of my residence. I don’t polish boots for an earning, not that I am belittling those who do so as their means of living in their less economically developed countries.

 

[Rana]

According to who? This is like saying Kashmir belongs rightfully to India because the leader of Kashmir was bribed to side with India at partition.

Leaders are ultimately judged by their actions and how they advance their nation. Pakistan has been led by the Sharifs and the Bhuttos for the majority of it's history. Can you deny both families became rich while the nation was led nowhere but a path to bankruptcy?

According to the laws of the country that he was the PM of. The same laws that sent the Sharifs and Bhuttos in jail for their crimes.

If charges on Khan are bogus, what is there to say that the charges on his political opponents of the past and present are not equally bogus?

 

[Bewal Express]

Yeah and I don’t know and honestly I could care less.

What I do know is Imran Khan is not the messiah he is portrayed to be. Kill me for this view if you like.

What is a boot polisher? Why do you call me that?

I am Alhamdolillah a substantial Tax contribute to the country of my residence. I don’t polish boots for an earning, not that I am belittling those who do so as their means of living in their less economically developed countries.

Just google boot polisher and SS. IK is not the messiah and never will be, he has flaws like all others but is incorruptible and PKs biggest problem is the cancer of corruption that has led to a mafia that used our poor country to live in luxury, We always thought our Generals were anti this mafia but we know now, they were at the top of the mafia food chain.

 

[Bewal Express]

According to the laws of the country that he was the PM of. The same laws that sent the Sharifs and Bhuttos in jail for their crimes.

If charges on Khan are bogus, what is there to say that the charges on his political opponents of the past and present are not equally bogus?

Which law has IK been convicted under and what evidence was provided? Are people allowed to bring witnesses in their defense? Tell us please. This is about to show your boot polishing skills

 

[Rana]

Which law has IK been convicted under and what evidence was provided? Are people allowed to bring witnesses in their defense? Tell us please. This is about to show your boot polishing skills

Whatever law that he is done under, the guy is serving 3 years

I wouldn’t appeal if I were him and just suck it in. Do your time, leave the country once freed.

 

[Bewal Express]

Whatever law that he is done under, the guy is serving 3 years

I wouldn’t appeal if I were him and just suck it in. Do your time, leave the country once freed.

So you dont have an answer, you just quoted a corrupt judgement. Brilliant

 

[I think therfore I am]

You don't have hopes on the Sharif brothers?

They don't fill you with confidence based on NS track record, SS is a worse version.

Pakistan has become a Shakespearean tragedy.

I give the country another 20yrs before it is fragmented further, occupied or no longer exists.

 

[Rana]

They don't fill you with confidence based on NS track record, SS is a worse version.

Pakistan has become a Shakespearean tragedy.

I give the country another 20yrs before it is fragmented further, occupied or no longer exists.

They probably said that 50 years ago too. Guess what, Pakistan is still here in 2023

 

[Rana]

Life goes on

Life always goes on

 

[MenInG]

Life goes on

Life always goes on

Allah ka nizam hai

I think Imran will remain a force because Social Media is king

 

[Bewal Express]

Allah ka nizam hai

I think Imran will remain a force because Social Media is king

Next step is to ban social media accounts that are critical of the Junta.

 

[Rana]

Allah ka nizam hai

I think Imran will remain a force because Social Media is king

Let’s hope social media gets him out of jail, not sure if lawyers can do that.

 

[MenInG]

Let’s hope social media gets him out of jail, not sure if lawyers can do that.

As we all know, most judgements in Pakistan can be reversed based on who is in power.

If Imran has enough support, he will be out.

 

[Rana]

As we all know, most judgements in Pakistan can be reversed based on who is in power.

If Imran has enough support, he will be out.

I think Imran should get his medical treatment done abroad like Nawaz Sharif

 

[Bewal Express]

I think Imran should get his medical treatment done abroad like Nawaz Sharif

Why?

 

[Rana]

Why?

Fair is fair

 

[MenInG]

If we know anything about Imran, we know he will not leave Pakistan.

If there is death in his naseeb then that is what he will take

 

[Bewal Express]

Fair is fair

What would be fair is for NS to comeback and serve his sentence and IK to be given a fair trial. That's how countries progress

 

[controversial_man]

I m very impressed by his mental power. Given his age he could easily be manipulated and forced to leave. Imran may be dead or alive but his legacy is a great inspiration for the future generation. They can derive a lesson or two for not selling his country in return for receiving a few dollars. He has done his honest work. It is upto Pakistani people to decide about their future.

 

[I think therfore I am]

They probably said that 50 years ago too. Guess what, Pakistan is still here in 2023

Not really they never thought it would split further, alongside majority of the rule being under the military. In addition the disgusting sectarian genocide was something that was not predicted to the level it occurred at.

IK is Paks last chance saloon

 

[YorkerKing]

LAHORE:
The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) core committee on Friday raised concerns over the treatment of party chairman Imran Khan in his detention, alleging that he was being subjected to "constant revenge" and ill-treatment, warning that the nation’s patience was wearing thin.
The committee emphasised that the ongoing series of revenge against Imran was testing the patience of the nation and urged that justice be promptly delivered, requesting an immediate hearing for Imran Khan's bail application to prevent the public from being provoked into protesting.
The leaders further urged authorities to set a date for an immediate hearing of the former premier's bail application.
In a meeting chaired by Vice Chairman Shah Mehmood Qureshi, the core committee strongly condemned the party chief’s arrest and the recent crackdown on PTI workers.
The PTI core committee expressed its dissatisfaction over the non-serious behaviour of the rulers regarding the health and safety of the PTI chief despite the fact multiple assassination attempts were made on him.
The leaders asserted that they could not risk the health and safety of Imran Khan under the pretext of imprisonment resulting from "a controversial and biased court verdict". They demanded that the party chief, as a former prime minister, should be provided with quality and safe food, along with a security guard, in accordance with rules and jail regulations.

The PTI core committee further urged the court to take immediate notice of the situation, allow food and water to be provided from home and order the immediate transfer of Imran Khan from Attock to Adiala Jail.
Fresh crackdown
In a parallel development, a fresh crackdown was launched against PTI workers in Punjab on Friday. Police sources revealed that an extensive list of 4,082 individuals has been compiled, with 1,082 listed as suspects from Lahore alone.
A strategy, incorporating targeted raids and advanced technological tools, has been devised to apprehend these suspects within their respective residences.
The authorities asserted that not only those directly responsible for the incidents will face legal action but also individuals found to have provided support or aid to the accused will be held accountable under the law.
Reports suggested that the decision to crack down was prompted by PTI leader Shah Mehmood Qureshi's statement, expressing the party's desire to celebrate Independence Day with enthusiasm and zeal.
The party intended to submit applications to deputy commissioners seeking permission for Independence Day gatherings.
In light of this, police officers have been instructed to ensure that PTI party flags are not displayed anywhere.
While police authorities maintain that the crackdown is a renewed effort to bring the culprits responsible for the May 9 and March 14 incidents to justice, the PTI contests these claims by asserting that the crackdown is an attempt to prevent party workers from waving party flags on Independence Day.

 

[Varun]

They don't fill you with confidence based on NS track record, SS is a worse version.

Pakistan has become a Shakespearean tragedy.

I give the country another 20yrs before it is fragmented further, occupied or no longer exists.

Need to see what China thinks about that. Pakistan is to China what Cuba was to the Soviet Union.

 

[JattMaula]

Need to see what China thinks about that. Pakistan is to China what Cuba was to the Soviet Union.

I actually believe Chinese don't want Khan in charge. He has independent streak to him that doesn't work for Chinese way of doing business.

Boys must have consulted both big brothers(US and China) before jettisoning him from power.

 

[Bewal Express]

I actually believe Chinese don't want Khan in charge. He has independent streak to him that doesn't work for Chinese way of doing business.

Boys must have consulted both big brothers(US and China) before jettisoning him from power.

I think that is probably true. The Chinese want contracts without questions asked and the Americans want orders followed without questions asked. So the obvious question is- where do the 240mn PK come into this

 

[Hextro]

I'd argue Imran Khan is bigger now than he was at the peak of 2018. If he is able to get out of prison the game can be shaken up dramatically.

Just have a look at the poll data of independent organizations. They are putting his popularity at 60-80%.

He has absorbed the popularity of other PTI leaders which might not end up being the best thing for PTI in the long run.

 

[JattMaula]

I think that is probably true. The Chinese want contracts without questions asked and the Americans want orders followed without questions asked. So the obvious question is- where do the 240mn PK come into this

Your people will have to fight for your right to have a voice at that table. Pakistan will have to wake up from this nightmare.

I don't expect much from meek Pakistanis though.

 

[Bewal Express]

Your people will have to fight for your right to have a voice at that table. Pakistan will have to wake up from this nightmare.

I don't expect much from meek Pakistanis though.

Time will tell. We have surrendered our hard won independence without even a skirmish. This suits the elite with their wealth abroad and power at home, but history shows that this doesn't last forever

 

[I think therfore I am]

Time will tell. We have surrendered our hard won independence without even a skirmish. This suits the elite with their wealth abroad and power at home, but history shows that this doesn't last forever

Nailed could not have said it better myself

 

[I think therfore I am]

Need to see what China thinks about that. Pakistan is to China what Cuba was to the Soviet Union.

Agreed however China knows Pak will always play ball with them regardless who leads the country. US does not give a flying f about Pak. It's all about India, Israel and the US

 

[Bewal Express]

Marched on to where? Democracy? Free press? Human rights? Free Judiciary? A growing economy? Growing exports? A stronger Rp? As I said yesterday to you education is very important in understanding these things, or even just basic common sense.

@Rana
Marched on the what? Why are you running

 

[shortbread]

Time will tell. We have surrendered our hard won independence without even a skirmish. This suits the elite with their wealth abroad and power at home, but history shows that this doesn't last forever

The establishment has perfected the art of staying in power for 75+ years.... dislodging this tyranny has now become an impossible task!

 

[Bewal Express]

The establishment has perfected the art of staying in power for 75+ years.... dislodging this tyranny has now become an impossible task!

Hard but not impossible.

 

[Rana]

Hard but not impossible.

How do you plan on doing it? By staging protests in Hyde park?

 

[Bewal Express]

How do you plan on doing it? By staging protests in Hyde park?

They worked against the fascist apartheid. Foreign pressure through the media makes a difference as Foreign powers are behind the coup.

 

[Rana]

They worked against the fascist apartheid. Foreign pressure through the media makes a difference as Foreign powers are behind the coup.

Good luck. I think it’s game over but it’s not like I am an expert, although my hunch is usually correct.

 

[Bewal Express]

Good luck. I think it’s game over but it’s not like I am an expert, although my hunch is usually correct.

Nothing is done.

 

[WicketLord]

A party cannot be eliminated by force, as is happening with PTI now. Powerful individuals should realize this.
Although PTI's popularity had declined towards the end of its last term in government, when actions against PTI began, it gained significant strength. Today, it has undoubtedly become Pakistan's strongest, largest, and most popular political party.

 

[IMMY69]

A party cannot be eliminated by force, as is happening with PTI now. Powerful individuals should realize this.
Although PTI's popularity had declined towards the end of its last term in government, when actions against PTI began, it gained significant strength. Today, it has undoubtedly become Pakistan's strongest, largest, and most popular political party.

I hope I'm wrong but looking in to my crystal ball I don't see anything happening and the PTI dying a death.

History has shown that dictators are allowed to rule and prosper at the west's whim whilst they serve a purpose.

Shah of Iran was supported by the West until he went against them as President of OPEC.
Saddam Hussein was supported until he went rogue and decided to invade Kuwait.
Even Erdogan is largely supported

Pakistan is a military dictatorship and has always been one, the democracy is just a charade. An unwritten charter between crooked military brass and crooked politicians. The only difference between Pakistan and the other countries listed above is that corruption is engrained in to society and so they will never do anything to upset the West and rock the golden goose.
If one military leader stands up for its people, there are more corrupt generals waiting in the wings to take over. Meanwhile two families in particular have benefited from the sham democracy, they take it in turns to rule and loot.

PTI/IK cared about the people but caring about the poor is not enough when you have a system that is engulfed with blood sucking leaches.

 

[WicketLord]

PTI ready to bridge gap between Imran Khan and establishment.

PTI, whose topmost leadership including its chairman, deputy chairman and president are presently behind the bars, is keen for a rapprochement between the institution and Imran Khan.

The PTI, whose topmost leadership including its chairman, deputy chairman and president are presently behind the bars, is keen for a rapprochement between the institution and Imran Khan.

Party sources said that in the absence of its jailed top leaders, including Imran Khan, Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Pervez Elahi, the PTI second tier leaders are seriously discussing ways and means to get the party out of the present situation where it is in a direct confrontation-like situation with the establishment.

According to a PTI source, there is also discussion within the party that continuing confrontation between the PTI and establishment will neither serve the party nor the institution or the country. The source said that the PTI wants the establishment to reconsider its present policies towards the party and in return a guarantee can be given to the institutions about Imran Khan’s softening his stance.

PTI ready to bridge gap between Imran and establishment

ISLAMABAD: The PTI, whose topmost leadership including its chairman, deputy chairman and president are presently behind the bars, is keen for a rapprochement between the institution and Imran...

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