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Will India and Pakistan go to war over the Pahalgam incident?

Will India and Pakistan go to war over the Pahalgam incident?


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How did you know? How old are you, 500? Are you my ancestor reincarnated into a roti, still rolling around salty?

Brother you asked me and I answered.

You didn't like the answer I can see, no need to be insulting, roti always tastes nice brother.

😉😊
 
I have a feeling India's haughty mindset may result in them getting their butts kicked by China and also Pakistan.

A war can cause dissolution and balkanization of India. These bhakts are too thick to realize it I guess. :inti
 
Low self esteem must hurt, y’all dragging my ancestors into a random thread like it’s gonna heal the fact you're still out here repainting street signs to escape a history lesson you keep losing.
Hey, don't be emotional. you n sweepshot take the cake in terms of saying the most irrelevant and unintelligent things and this reply is another example. As i said it's very difficult to be this stupid but you guys demonstrate it in every single thread and every single post. Guess time to go back and take chatgpt help, good luck 🤞
 
Hey, don't be emotional. you n sweepshot take the cake in terms of saying the most irrelevant and unintelligent things and this reply is another example. As i said it's very difficult to be this stupid but you guys demonstrate it in every single thread and every single post. Guess time to go back and take chatgpt help, good luck 🤞
Emotional? Bro, your whole support group out here crying about Arab Gods and my ancestors in a thread about 'Will India and Pakistan go to war.' I get it, when you can't question your own government, you just fall back to the national hobby, plotting how hard you can hurt Muslims of India instead of facing your own mess.
 
I have a feeling India's haughty mindset may result in them getting their butts kicked by China and also Pakistan.

A war can cause dissolution and balkanization of India. These bhakts are too thick to realize it I guess. :inti
You should look for a chinese pharmacy. Daddy China might have cure for verbal diarrhea.
 
Emotional? Bro, your whole support group out here crying about Arab Gods and my ancestors in a thread about 'Will India and Pakistan go to war.' I get it, when you can't question your own government, you just fall back to the national hobby, plotting how hard you can hurt Muslims of India instead of facing your own mess.
Go look for the word 'Hindutva' in this thread. How many times that has been typed in a thread about 'Will India and Pakistan go to war'
 
Go look for the word 'Hindutva' in this thread. How many times that has been typed in a thread about 'Will India and Pakistan go to war'
Oh, so now y’all are upset because I pointed out the obvious?

You subscribe to Hindutva, fantasize about war with Pakistan, demonize Muslims at brunch, and then clutch your pearls when someone says it out loud?

Please, spare me the, Not all of us, speech. Y’all literally elected Hindutva with WiFi speed enthusiasm.

Meanwhile, most Pakistanis are over here like, “Uh, war? No thanks, we actually have things to do.
 
How far has india reached?

Anyways trump said he don't want anything to do with it. It's been going on for 1500 years
 
I have a feeling India's haughty mindset may result in them getting their butts kicked by China and also Pakistan.

A war can cause dissolution and balkanization of India. These bhakts are too thick to realize it I guess. :inti
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At this point, India has exhausted its options, every card has been played, and they've reached their maximum threshold.

It’s not that they wouldn’t want to escalate further, it’s simply that Modi’s government cannot afford a repeat of the last misadventure.

Will there be more terrorism in Pakistan? Perhaps, perhaps not, particularly if one believes that recent events served as a clear reminder from Pakistan’s establishment, any attempts to destabilize Balochistan will be met with responses elsewhere, including Kashmir.

For now, India has no immediate moves left and must settle into a long game, one that demands patience, strategic thinking, and a willingness to pursue dialogue.

Ultimately, dialogue has always been, and remains, the only real solution. Whether the current Indian leadership is capable of recognizing that reality remains to be seen, though when street renaming seems to take precedence over diplomacy, expectations should remain modest.
 
Really ??

There are literally a million posts on this forum which says otherwise, how Islam and your one true God is superior than other faiths like Hinduism etc etc. However you'll hardly find any Hindu starting the discussion on how some Hindu God trumps Allah and all that.

Also about your 2nd claim, I have never been to Pakistan but if majority are anything similar to many we have on this forum, they openly glorify the ones you claim you have been roasting.
No, don’t get it twisted. Every time there’s a thread about Islam or Islamic education, there’s always that one, the atheist, the exMuslim, and the Hindutva foot soldier, clocking in like discrediting Islam is a full time job with unpaid overtime.

And Hindutva? It’s not 'misunderstood' as anti Hindu by accident. It's the inevitable result of years of brainwashing people into believing their sole purpose is to turn India into a Hindutva Rashtra.

Sure, you’ll catch a few trolls mocking Islam here and there, but the real circus is the endless parade of posters, mostly from India, labeling every Muslim as 'sub human' just for criticizing Hindutva.

See the pattern yet, or still fumbling around blindfolded?

But honestly, all that noise misses the real point, you're talking to individuals here, not a religion, not a government, not a nation. The moment you start demanding people defend entire populations they don’t even represent, you’ve already lost the plot.

Bigots exist everywhere. Always have. It’s practically the subcontinent’s favorite blood sport. It only becomes "your" criticism when you start defending bigots, electing them, and justifying it like it’s a badge of honor.
 
Yes we feel it's superior thats why we follow the religion. Why would we follow something we didn't think is the truth?

Every person who has a religious belief believes it because they feel it's the truth and they are correct and others are incorrect.
Thats alright, you can feel all you want. Problem starts when people start demeaning, mocking and imposing their beliefs on others. The way you feel about your religion, i don't. I don't care about it as long as people are respectful towards others beliefs.
 
Yes we feel it's superior thats why we follow the religion. Why would we follow something we didn't think is the truth?

Every person who has a religious belief believes it because they feel it's the truth and they are correct and others are incorrect.

This video show the difference between Indian and Pakistani childern :kp
 

This video show the difference between Indian and Pakistani childern :kp
Bro, your parliament has an Akhand Bharat mural hanging like a wishlist, whether you call it a map, a mural, or a group hallucination.
 
Thats alright, you can feel all you want. Problem starts when people start demeaning, mocking and imposing their beliefs on others. The way you feel about your religion, i don't. I don't care about it as long as people are respectful towards others beliefs.
That's fair enough. Nobody should be demeaned or mocked.
 
No, don’t get it twisted. Every time there’s a thread about Islam or Islamic education, there’s always that one, the atheist, the exMuslim, and the Hindutva foot soldier, clocking in like discrediting Islam is a full time job with unpaid overtime.

And Hindutva? It’s not 'misunderstood' as anti Hindu by accident. It's the inevitable result of years of brainwashing people into believing their sole purpose is to turn India into a Hindutva Rashtra.

Sure, you’ll catch a few trolls mocking Islam here and there, but the real circus is the endless parade of posters, mostly from India, labeling every Muslim as 'sub human' just for criticizing Hindutva.

See the pattern yet, or still fumbling around blindfolded?

But honestly, all that noise misses the real point, you're talking to individuals here, not a religion, not a government, not a nation. The moment you start demanding people defend entire populations they don’t even represent, you’ve already lost the plot.

Bigots exist everywhere. Always have. It’s practically the subcontinent’s favorite blood sport. It only becomes "your" criticism when you start defending bigots, electing them, and justifying it like it’s a badge of honor.
I'm not twisting anything and not talking about 'Islam' threads. I hardly visit those threads.

But i have a problem when people start pushing their agenda in non related discussion. Anyways i think we're getting side tracked too much. So lets end it here.
 
For now, India has no immediate moves left and must settle into a long game, one that demands patience, strategic thinking, and a willingness to pursue dialogue.

Ultimately, dialogue has always been, and remains, the only real solution.

Dialogue about what ?
 
Most people don't know where to draw the line for these semantics leading to narcissistic behaviour. One can believe anything in individual capacity but any comparative beliefs (like our religion is supreme, our way of life is supreme) sanctioned by religion leads to hatred if unchecked. Relatively Islam is the newest religion, it could have had the best pitch highlighting it's own positives without degrading other religions . But the reality is total opposite. Praying multiple gods or idol worship are all ones own choices but by saying it as unforgivable sin, Islam is dehumanising other religion followers.

You are the most reasonable pak poster I know in this forum but In another thread you said family n women of Indian soldiers look like us although not as fair as us. See you couldn't just keep it to religion, the racial connotations can't be missed. If this is the most reasonable thinker's viewpoint, we can imagine and see the extremists' viewpoints. This mocking of other religions n crass comments on what others pray, eat and look like is a very common trait I saw in most Muslims and then when rebutted, all the hue and cry about islamophobia. Atleast most Hindus aren't commenting on looks, your gods etc., and pointing out the violence or terrorism perpetrated by Muslims.

What does Christianity and Judaism says about idol worship?
 
What does Christianity and Judaism says about idol worship?
Answer is your fav word my friend: Education.

They were also pretty much Islam like but evolved with times and you hardly see any Christian or Jew killing in the name of religion now.
 
Answer is your fav word my friend: Education.

They were also pretty much Islam like but evolved with times and you hardly see any Christian or Jew killing in the name of religion.

What do you think Zionist are doing in Palestine?

Or the western powers did to India before independence, Africa and now to Muslim countries?
 
Answer is your fav word my friend: Education.

They were also pretty much Islam like but evolved with times and you hardly see any Christian or Jew killing in the name of religion now.

Or better yet, what do you think cow lynchers do in India or when they don’t want to rent to Muslims?
 
Answer is your fav word my friend: Education.

They were also pretty much Islam like but evolved with times and you hardly see any Christian or Jew killing in the name of religion now.

Or better yet, why elect someone who openly suggested to kill Muslims of India?

Pakistani dictator did the same and he was rightly criticized by almost everyone. But y’all get to elect.
 
I have made my point clear as a daylight. You can do your hindutva dance as per the routine script
What do you think Zionist are doing in Palestine?

Or the western powers did to India before independence, Africa and now to Muslim countries?
 
I have made my point clear as a daylight. You can do your hindutva dance as per the routine script

No you haven’t. lol.

Why are you getting upset at the criticism of Hindutva? A documented hate filled organization.
 
India actually has no way of solving there Pakistan problem, can do a few surgical strikes dosen't change anything on the ground.
 
Air India flight #AI101 (DEL - JFK) will make a fuel stop in Copenhagen because of the increased flight distance following the closure of Pakistan airspace to Indian registered aircraft. :inti
 
Even India knows that Pakistan had nothing do with it.

All that is for local consumption and politics. Everyone that killed tourists are all local Kashmiris. It was a epic failure of the Indian security forces.

Kashmir is one the the most guarded region in the world.
 
not going to disrespect any nation armed forces, but indian public thinks that PAF has chinese maal , and it will be outgun by IAF but still the IAF is not coming close to the border , that should concern the indian public .

IAF knows the true value of the chinese maal. so the 18 F-16s block 52s are not the reasons that they are not crossing the border.

showing 80 brahmos and 120 MRs and 20 Rafales are nothing , but a show off .

when you are in neighbor, you just cant operate this like its 1960s .

thre is the huge number of assets are involved which can surprise IAF before they even know .

modi ji shouldnt drag the pride of IAF for his dirty politics .
 
not going to disrespect any nation armed forces, but indian public thinks that PAF has chinese maal , and it will be outgun by IAF but still the IAF is not coming close to the border , that should concern the indian public .

I think you are totally wrong here, Indians in general that know their stuff have a high regard for PAF. Matter of fact PAF would be considered the main threat for India..

I don't know about the Chinese planes you have in your inventory but those f16s are great fighter jets that can do damage to IAF...
 
Interesting that it was in Tutmari Gali or TMG in 1971 that a brave unit of a Sikh battalion won against the Pak forces and captured territory. Today it heats up again. :kp
 
Interesting that it was in Tutmari Gali or TMG in 1971 that a brave unit of a Sikh battalion won against the Pak forces and captured territory. Today it heats up again. :kp

Why do you have to bring up 1971 over and over? Is it because India don't have any modern day military success? :inti

What have India won since 1971? India lost 2000 sq km territory to China since 2020. ROFL. :yk
 
Why do you have to bring up 1971 over and over? :inti

What have India won since 1971? India lost 2000 sq km territory to China since 2020. ROFL. :yk
You should feel happy that we gave you a new identity, An Bangladesh Nationalist. :kp
 
In my opinion, IOK should have a referendum with 4 options: :inti

1) Stay with India.
2) Join Pakistan.
3) Join China.
4) Become an independent country.

Whatever people of IOK decide should be respected and implemented. UN should oversee the referendum. :inti
 
In my opinion, IOK should have a referendum with 4 options: :inti

1) Stay with India.
2) Join Pakistan.
3) Join China.
4) Become an independent country.

Whatever people of IOK decide should be respected and implemented. UN should oversee the referendum. :inti

I feel you missed the most important option Sweep_Shot bro 😔:

5) Join Bangladesh.
 
In my opinion, IOK should have a referendum with 4 options: :inti

1) Stay with India.
2) Join Pakistan.
3) Join China.
4) Become an independent country.

Whatever people of IOK decide should be respected and implemented. UN should oversee the referendum. :inti

Join China? China will make them atheists in no time.
 
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In my opinion, IOK should have a referendum with 4 options:

1) Stay with India.
2) Join Pakistan.
3) Join China.
4) Become an independent country.

Whatever people of IOK decide should be respected and implemented. UN should oversee the referendum.

UN actually drafted a resolution for it. It is called "United Nations Security Council Resolution 47". :inti




Pass me some of that crack you're smoking. Join China? China will make them atheists in no time.

OK. You can omit China. It was hypothetical. :inti
 
When are Sunny deol, Akshay kumar and Sunil shetty heading to the LOC to take on Pakistan army?? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
India’s biggest threat is Indian elements and Pakistan’s biggest threat is Pakistani elements.

If both countries focus on defeating those internal elements, the war will be won by both.
 
In my opinion, IOK should have a referendum with 4 options: :inti

1) Stay with India.
2) Join Pakistan.
3) Join China.
4) Become an independent country.

Whatever people of IOK decide should be respected and implemented. UN should oversee the referendum. :inti
I do not think fourth option is viable , they cannot sustain as a separate nation.

The best option for them should be to be an autonomy under India , Pakistan or China . They should have own administration and policing etc.
 
Glad reality finally sealed fate of ummah.

A common religion is not a glue strong enough.

The cohesiveness of culture, language and logistics are far more potent.

Ummah is not related to geography , it is related to Khilafat , which does not exist today.
 
I fully agree with PM Shehbaz's sentiment here.

Water shouldn't be weaponized. It should be a red line. :inti
No water for people who send killers to butcher innocent's on the basis of religion..or maybe excess water ...as the news today shows
 

Funniest thing on the net today...
But why? :inti

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India and Pakistan troops exchange fire in Kashmir

India has accused Pakistan of supporting "cross-border terrorism" after gunmen killed 26 people in the worst attack on civilians in contested Muslim-majority Kashmir for a quarter of a century.

Islamabad has denied any involvement, calling attempts to link Pakistan to the attack "frivolous" and vowing to respond to any Indian action.

The Indian military on Sunday held naval drills -- releasing images of warships firing missiles -- while the country's security forces pressed on with their hunt for those behind the April 22 attack at a tourist hotspot in Pahalgam.

The military blamed Pakistan for the "unprovoked" firing of small arms along Kashmir's Line of Control that separates the two countries.

"(Our) own troops responded effectively with appropriate small arms fire," it said of the latest incident, which has not been reported by Pakistan.

Indian police have issued wanted posters for three men -- two Pakistanis and an Indian -- who they say are members of the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba group, a UN-designated terrorist organisation.

India's federal home ministry has handed over the attack probe to the National Investigation Agency, which focuses on counter-terrorism.

"The eyewitnesses are being questioned in minute detail to piece together the sequence of events that led to one of the worst terror attacks in Kashmir," an agency statement said Sunday.

Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Saturday said the country was "open to participating in any neutral, transparent and credible investigation" into the attack.

Indian naval exercises

India's navy meanwhile said it carried out exercises to "revalidate and demonstrate readiness of platforms, systems and crew for long range precision offensive strike", without detailing where the drills took place.

The Indian Express newspaper on Sunday quoted a top government source as saying "there will be military retaliation" and officials "are discussing the nature of the strike".

Kashmir has been divided between India and Pakistan since their independence in 1947. Both claim the territory in full but govern separate portions of it.

Rebel groups have waged an insurgency in Indian-controlled Kashmir since 1989, demanding independence or a merger with Pakistan.

India's Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Sunday reiterated his pledge that the Pahalgam victims "will get justice".

"Terrorists and their patrons want Kashmir to be destroyed again, that is why such a big conspiracy was hatched," he said in his monthly radio address to the nation.

On Saturday, soldiers in Indian-administered Kashmir bombed the family home of one of the Pahalgam suspects.

The house of Farooq Ahmad Tadwa was destroyed by authorities in Kupwara district, one of a series of demolitions targeting houses of alleged militants.

So far nine houses belonging to militants have been bombed since the Pahalgam attack, a police official told AFP on Sunday on condition of anonymity.

In the aftermath of the attack, New Delhi suspended a water-sharing treaty, announced the closure of the main land border crossing with Pakistan, downgraded diplomatic ties, and withdrew visas for Pakistanis.

In response, Islamabad has ordered the expulsion of Indian diplomats and military advisers, cancelling visas for Indian nationals -- with the exception of Sikh pilgrims -- and closing the main border crossing from its side.

The United Nations has urged the arch-rivals to show "maximum restraint" so that issues can be "resolved peacefully through meaningful mutual engagement".

Pahalgam marks a dramatic shift in recent Kashmiri rebel attacks, which typically target Indian security forces.

In 2019, a suicide attack killed 41 Indian troops in Kashmir and triggered Indian air strikes inside Pakistan, bringing the countries to the brink of all-out war.

 
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Indians crying on twitter, What next Twitter Jihad??

Mr Sinha thinks his vegetarian ancestors protected their women. LOL. Talk about high delusion.

Their women were protected by Mughals, Sultanates, and later on British Empire. Mr Sinha's vegetarian ancestors didn't have the strength to protect anyone. There was a reason why they were dominated for 800+ years.

:qdkcheeky
 
Modi along with the Biden administration has been the biggest force behind the coup. Bajwa didn't even want to attack back after the Inds attacked in 2019, and IK forced the issue. Remember what Ayaz Sadiq said about Bajwa.Any major conflict leaves his agents- The Sharifs in a precarious position because too much can go wrong. Also Look at how the Trump administration changed its tune on IK after Modi met Trump. Grennel stopped tweeting and today they are all good. All because of Modi

Far fetched - I very much doubt this. Pakistan holds no importance to US especially now they aren't in Afghanistan any more. Pakistan is irrelevant.

IK does not run the show, the army does and the hostility with India is actually in their best interests for two reasons:

1. It helps keep the government subservient to them
2. Their fear mongering and brainwashing works every time with the Pakistani peole, so they will continue to rally behind them
 
Navy's strategy forces Indian aircraft carrier to beat a hasty retreat

Pakistan Navy’s robust Anti-Access / Area-Denial (A2/AD) strategy forced India’s prized aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, to turn tail and head back to its home port, satellite images revealed.

According to fresh satellite dated April 26, 2025, INS Vikrant, which had barely set sail into the Arabian Sea a few days earlier, was spotted anchored at India’s Karwar Naval Base.

Initially deployed near Pakistani waters amid rising tensions, the carrier’s sudden pullback has raised many eyebrows.

Sources suggest that the unrelenting presence and sharp patrolling by Pak Navy sent alarm bells rising within the India Navy, leaving them with little choice but to call their flagship vessel back to safer waters.

The buzz created by Indian media over Vikrant’s deployment has now fizzled out. With Pakistan’s deadly “carrier killer” missile system prowling the seas, staying out in the open was clearly a recipe for disaster, and retreat was the only way out.


 
Far fetched - I very much doubt this. Pakistan holds no importance to US especially now they aren't in Afghanistan any more. Pakistan is irrelevant.

IK does not run the show, the army does and the hostility with India is actually in their best interests for two reasons:

1. It helps keep the government subservient to them
2. Their fear mongering and brainwashing works every time with the Pakistani peole, so they will continue to rally behind them
So you don't believe that Biden and the Inds backed the coup. Well let's look at the evidence- the Americans haven't uttered a word under Biden or Trump against Munir and Bajwa and their coup. Look at the response to the Venezuelan elections that were stolen and compare that to the PK elections that were stolen. Then there is the stick of the IMF- any regime they don't like or support is immediately hit with IMF funding moratorium. PK was given around $4bn by the IMF. Explain why that's the case. Don't the IMF know what happened in PK?

Let's get onto Ind. NS and the Sharifs are seen as family by the BJP. It's been a week and none of the Sharifs can utter a word against Modi. The reason is that Modi and the Sharifs know how they were brought into power and why.
There is nothing far fetched.
 
I think you are totally wrong here, Indians in general that know their stuff have a high regard for PAF. Matter of fact PAF would be considered the main threat for India..

I don't know about the Chinese planes you have in your inventory but those f16s are great fighter jets that can do damage to IAF...
i know that some indians who knw about PAF ,have respect for it, but the general public dont know much about tech stuff. even some journalists from indian side. thre analysis are hilarious.

about chinese planes, the main threat for IAF are those planes. the JF-17s and J-10s are loaded with the weapons that current PAF F-16s dont have it.

last time we had chinese + swedish / italian tech,
this time we have NATO Standard Turkish tech.
 
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And these cowards will fight? 😂 true reflection of aukaat show right there from moochay roll to "crying like a little boy but wyyyy?!". Bollywood has screwed up Hindutva aatanki minds, and their jahil facist BJP politicians have polluted their minds with deep hatred. Even their women were seen using disgusting chapri language, a common trait among Hindutva anparh gawars with their vile foul mouth. Gaali gaaloch is their takya-kalaam
I don't understand this fake bravado from you guys. India fought 4 conventional wars with Pakistan and beat you guys every single time, including dividing your country in 1971. So not sure whom you are calling coward. Also, it is ironical that supporters of fanatical Islamist terrorists is calling others as Hindutva anparh gawars. Look around, world is laughing and mocking at Pakistan. Don't worry Abdul, if and when another war happens, that smirk will disappear from your face like in previous 4 fights.
 
Navy's strategy forces Indian aircraft carrier to beat a hasty retreat

Pakistan Navy’s robust Anti-Access / Area-Denial (A2/AD) strategy forced India’s prized aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, to turn tail and head back to its home port, satellite images revealed.

According to fresh satellite dated April 26, 2025, INS Vikrant, which had barely set sail into the Arabian Sea a few days earlier, was spotted anchored at India’s Karwar Naval Base.

Initially deployed near Pakistani waters amid rising tensions, the carrier’s sudden pullback has raised many eyebrows.

Sources suggest that the unrelenting presence and sharp patrolling by Pak Navy sent alarm bells rising within the India Navy, leaving them with little choice but to call their flagship vessel back to safer waters.

The buzz created by Indian media over Vikrant’s deployment has now fizzled out. With Pakistan’s deadly “carrier killer” missile system prowling the seas, staying out in the open was clearly a recipe for disaster, and retreat was the only way out.


Hahaha Pakistan and their propaganda. this could be due to operational reasons and it could be back out in the sea soon .aircraft was already in the Arabian sea before this development.

If war happened ( Large scale) which chance is 1% and Indian Navy comes to the picture Pakistan Navy won't even stand 2 day infornt of Indian Navy . India Navy is 15 time better than Pakistan Navy . LoL 😂

:kp
 
India Seems to Be Building Its Case for Striking Pakistan

Since the horrific terrorist attack in Kashmir last week, the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, has spoken on the phone with more than a dozen world leaders. Diplomats from 100 missions in India’s capital have filed into the foreign ministry for briefings, officials said.

But the effort is largely not about rallying help to de-escalate India’s dangerous face-off with Pakistan, which it accuses of having “linkages” to the attack. Instead, according to four diplomatic officials aware of the discussions, New Delhi appears to be building a case for military action against its neighbor and archenemy. Without naming Pakistan, Mr. Modi in a speech on Thursday promised severe punishment and the razing of terror safe havens.

In an indication of how volatile the situation remains, the security forces of the two sides have exchanged intermittent small-arms fire across the border, Indian officials said on Sunday. One official said the exchange of fire had happened two of the past three nights, while a second official said it was three consecutive nights.

In Kashmir, Indian forces have also begun a sweeping clampdown, arresting hundreds, as they continue their hunt for the perpetrators.

Earlier, India declared its intention to disrupt the flow of water to Pakistan, whose irrigation system depends largely on upstream rivers. It also ordered the immediate departure of some staff members at Pakistan’s diplomatic mission as well as of Pakistani citizens visiting India.

Pakistan, for its part, has said it will suspend participation in bilateral treaties, including one that affects the “line of control” demarcating the frontier between the two countries in the disputed areas where a cease-fire had held for several years.

Anti-Muslim sentiment in India is also intensifying, with Kashmiri students studying in other Indian cities in particular facing widespread harassment and many of them feeling compelled to return home.

Five days after the terrorist assault, in which gunmen killed 26 civilians, India has not officially identified any group as having carried out the massacre, and it has publicly presented little evidence to support its claim that Pakistan was behind it. The Pakistani government has denied involvement.

In the briefings to diplomats at the foreign ministry, Indian officials have described Pakistan’s past patterns of support for terrorist groups targeting India, diplomatic officials said. The Indian officials have said their investigation is continuing, and made brief references to technical intelligence tying the perpetrators of last week’s attack to Pakistan, including facial recognition data.

The lack of strong evidence offered so far, analysts and diplomats said, pointed to one of two possibilities: that India needs more time to gather information about the terrorist attack before striking Pakistan, or that — in a time of particular chaos on the world stage — it feels little need to justify to anyone the actions it plans to take.

A military confrontation between India and Pakistan, both armed with nuclear weapons, runs the risk of rapid escalation that could be difficult to contain. But India is largely unrestrained by any global pressure to limit its response, and it has become quicker to flex its muscles in recent years as its diplomatic and economic power has grown.

The governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia have spoken to the two sides, and Iran’s foreign minister has publicly offered to mediate. The United Nations and the European Union have called for restraint and dialogue. But major powers, including the United States, are distracted by other crises, and analysts say India is interpreting the expressions of support by many countries for its pursuit of justice as a green light for any measures it takes.

Trump administration officials have voiced strong backing of India’s fight against terrorism. President Trump has said he is friendly with both India and Pakistan, while noting that they have long been at odds.

But it is unclear how involved Washington will get in the current clash. Three months into his term, Mr. Trump has still not named an ambassador to India, a sign of where South Asia ranks in his list of priorities.

Even if the United States or other powers did try to insert themselves into the conflict, they may have limited influence. India and Pakistan have fought several wars over Kashmir, a region that they share but both claim in whole, and New Delhi views the dispute solely as a bilateral issue with Pakistan.

The initial response from Washington has been similar to how the first Trump administration dealt with the last major flare-up over Kashmir, in 2019, said Daniel Markey, a senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.

That confrontation was spurred by an attack that killed dozens of Indian security forces. The affiliation of the attackers — a militant group called Jaish-e-Muhammad — was more clear.

At that time, the Trump White House signaled support for India. The administration increased its diplomatic pressure for restraint only after India had gotten a punch in on Pakistan, with a cross-border airstrike.

The strike’s damage was disputed. Afterward, as Pakistan moved to retaliate, it got into a dogfight and shot down an Indian jet. The pilot was taken prisoner.

To make up for that fumbled response, all signs this time indicate a desire by India to do “something spectacular,” Mr. Markey said. Pakistan has vowed to match and exceed any strike by India.

“The ***-for-tat cycle could move rapidly, and the Indians and Pakistanis have inflated assessments of their own ability to manage escalation,” Mr. Markey said.

Unlike with the 2019 terrorist attack, the claims of responsibility for last week’s slaughter have been murky, with information even on the exact number of attackers less than concrete. A little-known group calling itself the Resistance Front emerged on social media to say it was behind the massacre, according to Indian news outlets. Indian officials, in private, say the group is a proxy for Lashkar-e-Taiba, a terrorist organization based in Pakistan.

The lack of clarity may help explain why India has pointed largely to Pakistan’s past support of terrorism in Kashmir to make its case for a military reprisal now. But that approach, before India has laid out its evidence even in private diplomatic discussions, has raised some eyebrows considering the gravity of the escalation. One diplomat privately wondered: Do you want to go to war with a nuclear-armed neighbor based just on past patterns?

Shiv Shankar Menon, a former national security adviser in India, said Mr. Modi had little choice but to take military action after responding with strikes against Pakistan both in 2019 and in 2016, after another terrorist attack in Kashmir. The Indian government is under pressure to respond to a major security lapse in a troubled area that it was projecting as transformed in recent years and where it has been encouraging tourism.

But Mr. Menon said the ***-for-tat between the two adversaries was unlikely to get out of hand.

“I’m not hugely worried,” he said, “because they’re both quite happy in a state of managed hostility.”


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir.html
 
@Devadwal @Kianig89 I think if India bans ex Pak cricketers youtube channels that will really hurt them. Likes of Basit Ali, Ahmed Sehzad or even Shoaib Akhtar's main usp is to get Indian viewership by OTT praise of Indian cricketers and criticizing its own team. If this happens I think both Indian and Pakistani fans will be equally happy.

There are few channels who gives reaction to all Bollywood and South films/songs have lots of Indian subscribers. I personally wouldn't want to see them get banned as they are innocent people who have worked hard over the years to build their channels.
 
India Seems to Be Building Its Case for Striking Pakistan

Since the horrific terrorist attack in Kashmir last week, the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, has spoken on the phone with more than a dozen world leaders. Diplomats from 100 missions in India’s capital have filed into the foreign ministry for briefings, officials said.

But the effort is largely not about rallying help to de-escalate India’s dangerous face-off with Pakistan, which it accuses of having “linkages” to the attack. Instead, according to four diplomatic officials aware of the discussions, New Delhi appears to be building a case for military action against its neighbor and archenemy. Without naming Pakistan, Mr. Modi in a speech on Thursday promised severe punishment and the razing of terror safe havens.

In an indication of how volatile the situation remains, the security forces of the two sides have exchanged intermittent small-arms fire across the border, Indian officials said on Sunday. One official said the exchange of fire had happened two of the past three nights, while a second official said it was three consecutive nights.

In Kashmir, Indian forces have also begun a sweeping clampdown, arresting hundreds, as they continue their hunt for the perpetrators.

Earlier, India declared its intention to disrupt the flow of water to Pakistan, whose irrigation system depends largely on upstream rivers. It also ordered the immediate departure of some staff members at Pakistan’s diplomatic mission as well as of Pakistani citizens visiting India.

Pakistan, for its part, has said it will suspend participation in bilateral treaties, including one that affects the “line of control” demarcating the frontier between the two countries in the disputed areas where a cease-fire had held for several years.

Anti-Muslim sentiment in India is also intensifying, with Kashmiri students studying in other Indian cities in particular facing widespread harassment and many of them feeling compelled to return home.

Five days after the terrorist assault, in which gunmen killed 26 civilians, India has not officially identified any group as having carried out the massacre, and it has publicly presented little evidence to support its claim that Pakistan was behind it. The Pakistani government has denied involvement.

In the briefings to diplomats at the foreign ministry, Indian officials have described Pakistan’s past patterns of support for terrorist groups targeting India, diplomatic officials said. The Indian officials have said their investigation is continuing, and made brief references to technical intelligence tying the perpetrators of last week’s attack to Pakistan, including facial recognition data.

The lack of strong evidence offered so far, analysts and diplomats said, pointed to one of two possibilities: that India needs more time to gather information about the terrorist attack before striking Pakistan, or that — in a time of particular chaos on the world stage — it feels little need to justify to anyone the actions it plans to take.

A military confrontation between India and Pakistan, both armed with nuclear weapons, runs the risk of rapid escalation that could be difficult to contain. But India is largely unrestrained by any global pressure to limit its response, and it has become quicker to flex its muscles in recent years as its diplomatic and economic power has grown.

The governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia have spoken to the two sides, and Iran’s foreign minister has publicly offered to mediate. The United Nations and the European Union have called for restraint and dialogue. But major powers, including the United States, are distracted by other crises, and analysts say India is interpreting the expressions of support by many countries for its pursuit of justice as a green light for any measures it takes.

Trump administration officials have voiced strong backing of India’s fight against terrorism. President Trump has said he is friendly with both India and Pakistan, while noting that they have long been at odds.

But it is unclear how involved Washington will get in the current clash. Three months into his term, Mr. Trump has still not named an ambassador to India, a sign of where South Asia ranks in his list of priorities.

Even if the United States or other powers did try to insert themselves into the conflict, they may have limited influence. India and Pakistan have fought several wars over Kashmir, a region that they share but both claim in whole, and New Delhi views the dispute solely as a bilateral issue with Pakistan.

The initial response from Washington has been similar to how the first Trump administration dealt with the last major flare-up over Kashmir, in 2019, said Daniel Markey, a senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.

That confrontation was spurred by an attack that killed dozens of Indian security forces. The affiliation of the attackers — a militant group called Jaish-e-Muhammad — was more clear.

At that time, the Trump White House signaled support for India. The administration increased its diplomatic pressure for restraint only after India had gotten a punch in on Pakistan, with a cross-border airstrike.

The strike’s damage was disputed. Afterward, as Pakistan moved to retaliate, it got into a dogfight and shot down an Indian jet. The pilot was taken prisoner.

To make up for that fumbled response, all signs this time indicate a desire by India to do “something spectacular,” Mr. Markey said. Pakistan has vowed to match and exceed any strike by India.

“The ***-for-tat cycle could move rapidly, and the Indians and Pakistanis have inflated assessments of their own ability to manage escalation,” Mr. Markey said.

Unlike with the 2019 terrorist attack, the claims of responsibility for last week’s slaughter have been murky, with information even on the exact number of attackers less than concrete. A little-known group calling itself the Resistance Front emerged on social media to say it was behind the massacre, according to Indian news outlets. Indian officials, in private, say the group is a proxy for Lashkar-e-Taiba, a terrorist organization based in Pakistan.

The lack of clarity may help explain why India has pointed largely to Pakistan’s past support of terrorism in Kashmir to make its case for a military reprisal now. But that approach, before India has laid out its evidence even in private diplomatic discussions, has raised some eyebrows considering the gravity of the escalation. One diplomat privately wondered: Do you want to go to war with a nuclear-armed neighbor based just on past patterns?

Shiv Shankar Menon, a former national security adviser in India, said Mr. Modi had little choice but to take military action after responding with strikes against Pakistan both in 2019 and in 2016, after another terrorist attack in Kashmir. The Indian government is under pressure to respond to a major security lapse in a troubled area that it was projecting as transformed in recent years and where it has been encouraging tourism.

But Mr. Menon said the ***-for-tat between the two adversaries was unlikely to get out of hand.

“I’m not hugely worried,” he said, “because they’re both quite happy in a state of managed hostility.”


Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir.html
If a war happens, it will be between India and Pakistan, two nations. I hope, there is no internal battle within India by attacking Muslim's. Yes we are all angry that these terrorists killed only Hindus but that doesn't mean innocent muslims of India should be attacked. Remember there are many Muslim's in Indian army as well.
 
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