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Will India send troops to Afghanistan?

Majority of Afghans are Pashtuns, so are the Taliban. If the majority didnt support them, there is no chance they would have won the war. Many of current government troops were involved in killing the occupying soldiers. Taliban are not opposed to democracy, they have confirmed many times they are willing to work with the any other parties to create a new Afghanistan, inc voting. You must be reading Fox news or some right wing Indian news.

I'll admit that I have no way to get first hand information on the Taliban other than the world media. I saw a recent Vice documentary about the "Life under the Taliban" and a certain Taliban spokesperson said in the early part of the documentary that democracy as a concept was against Islam and that they don't trust in western methods to the interviewer, which is why I assumed the Taliban are perhaps not the greatest fans of democracy and elections.


https://youtu.be/z5IKObCAfKQ

I googled about Taliban's views on elections after I saw your post and I found this, which looks like the Taliban don't want the elections as well.

Taliban reject Afghan president’s proposal for election

https://www.dawn.com/news/1614480

If there is any recent news about the Taliban wanting to contest elections in Afghanistan, I'll stand corrected.
 
Seems like a masterstroke from Pakistan. Everyone was waiting for Pak to do something after India revoked 370, but looks like Pakistan was waiting patiently to deal its master card after 2 years. Pakistanis should start booking holidays at Srinagar already.

I didn't say it. The report says it.

You also said Taliban has its eyes set on Kerala too. Perhaps an advanced booking for the houseboats in the backwaters of Allepey is in order as well!

Again, it's reported by UN.
ISIS cells in Kerala.
 
Indian govt is stupid , draging themselves into Afghan war .... Good luck

official account of Taliban spokesman .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarCrime?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WarCrime</a> <br>In the continuing cycle of targeting government infrastructure, Indian supplied airplanes bombed Bost Specialist Hospital in Betun area of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helmand?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helmand</a> capital Lashkargah.<br>This enemy crime resulted in the hospital catching fire & large parts destroyed - Ahmadi <a href="https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2">https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2</a></p>— Zabihullah (..ذبـــــیح الله م ) (@Zabehulah_M33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1421451248012873733?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Indian govt is stupid , draging themselves into Afghan war .... Good luck

official account of Taliban spokesman .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarCrime?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WarCrime</a> <br>In the continuing cycle of targeting government infrastructure, Indian supplied airplanes bombed Bost Specialist Hospital in Betun area of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helmand?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helmand</a> capital Lashkargah.<br>This enemy crime resulted in the hospital catching fire & large parts destroyed - Ahmadi <a href="https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2">https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2</a></p>— Zabihullah (..ذبـــــیح الله م ) (@Zabehulah_M33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1421451248012873733?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So it's going be to Modi and Ajit Doval vs Talibans.
 
Pakistan must not let in afghan refugees ,

This criminal afghan government is gonna end up massacring its own civilians and bomb its cities into rubble they are already asking civilians in lashkargah to leave so they can then carpet bomb it to oblivion someway usa did in mosul.

The biggest mistake will be to take in these refugees and give respite to namak haram government, let these displaced people turn up in kabul and when they learn their houses are rubble, they will burn this afghan government down ,
 
Pakistan must not let in afghan refugees ,

This criminal afghan government is gonna end up massacring its own civilians and bomb its cities into rubble they are already asking civilians in lashkargah to leave so they can then carpet bomb it to oblivion someway usa did in mosul.

The biggest mistake will be to take in these refugees and give respite to namak haram government, let these displaced people turn up in kabul and when they learn their houses are rubble, they will burn this afghan government down ,

Afghans just want access to India as they had in the past. Would it be such a bad thing for Pakistan to let them have it considering India itself is not interested in the welfare of Pakistan? Pak has been a useful buffer for India from Afghan raids, but this has not been appreciated by India or Afghans, and since Indian soft power has been a spectacular fail, Pakistan needs look west for more stable and reliable allies.
 
Indian govt is stupid , draging themselves into Afghan war .... Good luck

official account of Taliban spokesman .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarCrime?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WarCrime</a> <br>In the continuing cycle of targeting government infrastructure, Indian supplied airplanes bombed Bost Specialist Hospital in Betun area of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helmand?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helmand</a> capital Lashkargah.<br>This enemy crime resulted in the hospital catching fire & large parts destroyed - Ahmadi <a href="https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2">https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2</a></p>— Zabihullah (..ذبـــــیح الله م ) (@Zabehulah_M33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1421451248012873733?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This could be a very expensive blunder by India.

But then again, after the whole Abhinandan saga, anything is possible.
 
Afghans just want access to India as they had in the past. Would it be such a bad thing for Pakistan to let them have it considering India itself is not interested in the welfare of Pakistan? Pak has been a useful buffer for India from Afghan raids, but this has not been appreciated by India or Afghans, and since Indian soft power has been a spectacular fail, Pakistan needs look west for more stable and reliable allies.

Afghanistan itself is an artificial state that was created by ahmad shah abdali.

Ahmad shah abdali if he was alive today would be a taliban , his troops are the ancestors of the modern day taliban.

Look at durrani history it is one of jihad against Sikhs and marathas .

From my experience I've never had problem with Sikhs or Hindus in UK they actually like us pakistanis and we share a lot in common culture wise and similar interests in film music.

It's these Afghans namak harams who are full of hatred for us , we saw that at Headingley how they were behaving like crazy chimps attacking pakistani fans and using all sorts of obscenities
 
Indian govt is stupid , draging themselves into Afghan war .... Good luck

official account of Taliban spokesman .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarCrime?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WarCrime</a> <br>In the continuing cycle of targeting government infrastructure, Indian supplied airplanes bombed Bost Specialist Hospital in Betun area of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helmand?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helmand</a> capital Lashkargah.<br>This enemy crime resulted in the hospital catching fire & large parts destroyed - Ahmadi <a href="https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2">https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2</a></p>— Zabihullah (..ذبـــــیح الله م ) (@Zabehulah_M33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1421451248012873733?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What were the airplanes India gifted to Afghanistan? I was not aware of this news. Are they referring to the helicopter maybe?
 
India again kept out of extended troika meet on Afghanistan called by Russia

The “extended troika” meet, to be held in Qatar on August 11, will be joined by special envoys from Russia, the US, China and Pakistan.
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India has again been kept out of a key meeting on Afghanistan convened by Russia that will see the participation of Pakistan, reflecting divergences between New Delhi and Moscow on the rapidly evolving situation in the war-torn country.

The “extended troika” meet, to be held in Qatar on August 11, will be joined by special envoys from Russia, the US, China and Pakistan. Qatar will host another meeting between the Afghan side and regional and international partners this month.

The extended troika meeting was called by Russia to push intra-Afghan talks to find a political settlement in Afghanistan at a time when the Taliban have launched a massive offensive that has recently been expanded to cities such as Kandahar, Herat and Lashkargah.

The extended troika held its last two meetings in Moscow on March 18 and in Doha on April 30. The Indian side has taken up the inclusion of Pakistan – which New Delhi contends is backing the Taliban – at these meetings with the Russian side, people familiar with developments said on condition of anonymity.


Russia has said it keeps India informed about developments on Afghanistan under the troika format, which includes the US and China, though it has shown little inclination of including India in discussions under the external troika even after acknowledging India’s stakes in Afghanistan, the people said.

While India has backed the government of President Ashraf Ghani, it has repeatedly opposed the imposition of any regime by force. However, the Russian side appears opposed to the continuation of the Ghani government and favours an interim set-up.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...istan-convened-by-russia-101628083722670.html
 
I'll admit that I have no way to get first hand information on the Taliban other than the world media. I saw a recent Vice documentary about the "Life under the Taliban" and a certain Taliban spokesperson said in the early part of the documentary that democracy as a concept was against Islam and that they don't trust in western methods to the interviewer, which is why I assumed the Taliban are perhaps not the greatest fans of democracy and elections.




I googled about Taliban's views on elections after I saw your post and I found this, which looks like the Taliban don't want the elections as well.

Taliban reject Afghan president’s proposal for election

https://www.dawn.com/news/1614480

If there is any recent news about the Taliban wanting to contest elections in Afghanistan, I'll stand corrected.

You are googling without understanding what you are reading. The Taliban rejected elections while under occupation. Democracy isnt always about voting, this is not the tradition in Afghanistan. They have tribal leaders who make partnerships with others. Taliban have confirmed many times, they will share power with others but with a fair voice, this is democracy, the will of the people. It doesnt matter what your personal view of how people should live, it's about their culture and way of life.

In case you missed it, Taliban have taken over a major city today.
 
India please help out your friends

https://theprint.in/diplomacy/afgha...s-fighting-worsens-across-the-country/712182/

Afghan govt wants IAF support to crush Taliban as fighting worsens across the country
While Kabul feels the only way New Delhi can help is through air power, India is unlikely to take part in the war in Afghanistan as it doesn't believe in such 'counter terrorism mechanisms'.
NAYANIMA BASU 10 August, 2021 10:25 am IST


Kabul: In an unprecedented move, the Ashraf Ghani government has sought “robust air support” from India as the fight between the Afghan government forces and the Taliban insurgents grew more intense in the last couple of days, ThePrint has learnt.

The Afghan government is concerned that the Taliban “will most definitely” escalate their level of violence once the US forces complete the drawdown of troops by 31 August and thus the need for air support from New Delhi is now being aggressively pushed by Kabul, top sources in the Afghan government told ThePrint, requesting anonymity.


The government in Afghanistan wants the Indian Air Force (IAF) to come into the country and support the Afghan Air Force given that General Kenneth McKenzie, chief of the US Central Command (CENTCOM), made clear that America will not give support after 31 August, sources added.

While the request for air support is not new, the Ghani government is “extremely concerned” that the Taliban will now accelerate its violent actions across the country as it continues to make rapid advances. It’s latest advance is happening in Mazar-i-Sharif where fighting intensified Monday.

The matter is believed to have been discussed during a recent phone call between Afghanistan’s Foreign Minister Mohammed Haneef Atmar and India’s External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar.


However, it appears New Delhi made it clear that it will not be able to take “such a drastic step” as India has never believed in these kinds of “counterterrorism mechanisms”.

Also read: Afghanistan braces for civil war as peace talks with Taliban are seen as dead

Troika Plus meeting in Doha
All eyes are once again on Doha now as the Qatari capital gears up to host yet another meeting of the peace process under the ‘Troika Plus’ as part of the intra-Afghan dialogue between Afghan government representatives and the Taliban leaders.


The meeting of the Troika Plus, also known as the Extended Troika, which has been called by Moscow, will take place amongst the US, Russia, Pakistan and China.

According to sources, the original plan by Moscow was to invite all regional stakeholders, including India as well as Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan. However, that did not fructify and it seems now that the meeting, which begins Tuesday at Doha, will have to take some “tough calls” as the Taliban increases its offensive.

“Air power plays a critical role in the Afghan counterinsurgency, and US air power — long a difference-maker in Afghanistan — will soon be removed from the battlefield equation. So it’s not altogether surprising that Kabul would lean on India, one of its closest friends in the region, for such support. But for New Delhi, even with its grave concerns about Taliban advances, the costs of providing such assistance greatly outweigh the benefits,” said Michael Kugelman, deputy director and senior associate for South Asia, Wilson Center.


He added, “The last thing India would want is to get dragged into the war in Afghanistan, and to inflame tensions in a relationship with Pakistan that is already deeply strained. The use of Indian air power in Afghanistan would be a game-changer with destabilizing regional impacts that New Delhi would much prefer to avoid.”

On the Troika Plus meeting, which will be taking place at a time when Afghanistan is seeing unprecedented bloodshed, Kugelman said that even if these dialogues do not yield desired results, regional powers need to talk amongst themselves and find a solution.

“It’s easy to shrug off the latest regional diplomatic effort to resuscitate a peace process that is seemingly dead in the water, but these meetings matter. And they matter even more now with the US withdrawal. The US and its NATO partners have the luxury of withdrawing and knowing that they won’t be directly impacted by the spill-over effects of war. The regional players have no such luxury,” he said.

“Regional solutions are essential, even if they are and will continue to be elusive. It’s also significant to see, once again, the US decoupling tensions with its Russian and Chinese rivals to cooperate on shared concerns about Afghanistan. This is a silver lining in an otherwise gloomy state of affairs,” he added.

The Troika Plus last met in April this year when it urged for peaceful settlement in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, the UN Security Council meeting on Afghanistan that took place Sunday under India’s presidency, said that the “Taliban must hear from the international community”.
 
India also closes its last consulate in Afghanistan, all Indians return home by special flight

This is today's Headline. Can any Indian explain what did they achieve in Afghanistan? They spent billions of dollars of Indian tax payers in Afghanistan but for what?
 
Indian consulate at Mazar-e-Sharif to temporarily close amid Taliban’s rapid advances

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How on earth 300,000 strong Afghan army is getting beaten by measly 60,000 strong Taliban? Afghanistan army was trained for 20 years, how are they losing this? Either their training was poor, or they just want their power to be in Kabul and area.
 
India also closes its last consulate in Afghanistan, all Indians return home by special flight

This is today's Headline. Can any Indian explain what did they achieve in Afghanistan? They spent billions of dollars of Indian tax payers in Afghanistan but for what?

I suppose supporting terrorism in Pakistan for 10-15 years, slowing down Gwadar and creating headaches for CPEC could be considered an achievement.
 
Indian consulate at Mazar-e-Sharif to temporarily close amid Taliban’s rapid advances

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Hard to believe such a news channel is left in India that believes in true and honest reporting.
My respect to this lady and the news reporting team.

Where is that screaming coward Arnab Goswami? He should've been here instead of this brave lady.
 
I suppose supporting terrorism in Pakistan for 10-15 years, slowing down Gwadar and creating headaches for CPEC could be considered an achievement.

Pakistanis have shrugged off Indian sponsored terrorism. Likes of Altaf Hussain and similar Indian assets are either dead or on the run, at least most of them.

Gwadar is steadily advancing. Indian sponsored terrorists are killing Chinese engineers but new teams are replacing them consistently.

Indians have underestimated the Afghan greed and incompetence. Now that these so called "consulates" are getting evacuated and paychecks are starting to disappear, let's see how Taliban hunt the traitor filth who were causing terrorism on behalf of India.

Modi the Muslim killer better shift them all to Delhi cuz there will be no place for these insects in a Taliban controlled Afghanistan.

This is a very big loss for India.
 
How on earth 300,000 strong Afghan army is getting beaten by measly 60,000 strong Taliban? Afghanistan army was trained for 20 years, how are they losing this? Either their training was poor, or they just want their power to be in Kabul and area.

Most ANA are deserting to join their tribe's local warlord or directly Taliban.

Soon ANA will struggle to find 20 soldiers for photoshoot.
 
Indian consulate at Mazar-e-Sharif to temporarily close amid Taliban’s rapid advances

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*According to the general Noor's meeting with the The Print Auntie: India should have a "proactive role" (lol) and 'provide air support' (lolol)

I can so imagine a Raw meeting in one of these terrorist-consulates where Mr. Patel is losing his mind over these requests. LoL, Kabul Administration want others to fight their wars for them.

Someone show these people the regional map :facepalm:

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How do they expect India to provide them air support?
 
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Indian govt is stupid , draging themselves into Afghan war .... Good luck

official account of Taliban spokesman .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarCrime?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WarCrime</a> <br>In the continuing cycle of targeting government infrastructure, Indian supplied airplanes bombed Bost Specialist Hospital in Betun area of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Helmand?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Helmand</a> capital Lashkargah.<br>This enemy crime resulted in the hospital catching fire & large parts destroyed - Ahmadi <a href="https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2">https://t.co/UFI5ogWAP2</a></p>— Zabihullah (..ذبـــــیح الله م ) (@Zabehulah_M33) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1421451248012873733?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Taliban capture Indian MI35 gift to ANA

Taliban seizes Mi-35 attack helicopter gifted by India to Afghan forces after they capture the Kunduz airport and local army headquarters


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بھارتی تحفہ طالبان کے قبضے میں<br>بھارت نے افغان حکومت کو 35-Mi بمباری ہیلی کاپٹر تحفے میں دیا تھا۔ آج طالبان نے قندوز ایئرپورٹ پر قبضہ کرنے کے بعد اس تحفے کو اپنی تحویل میں لے لیا <a href="https://t.co/iFZ0Hfti8q">pic.twitter.com/iFZ0Hfti8q</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1425411126049787911?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video reportingly shows <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> captured Kunduz airport with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> Air Force Mi-35 Hind attack helicopter <a href="https://t.co/u7jZJdR800">pic.twitter.com/u7jZJdR800</a></p>— Joseph Dempsey (@JosephHDempsey) <a href="https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1425404552807858179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Imagine if India had sent troops to assist their terrorist puppets! :))


They would have been beaten, captured and paraded on twitter as well! Same way the Chinese did it but probably worse!
 
Imagine if India had sent troops to assist their terrorist puppets! :))


They would have been beaten, captured and paraded on twitter as well! Same way the Chinese did it but probably worse!

Unless they sent in the RSS brigade, known as the greatest group of soldiers in India.

Watch some Indian news on the subject, it's great entertainment. They are claiming Chinese troops will enter with troops. :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Uizq0eLAc
 
Taliban capture Indian MI35 gift to ANA

Taliban seizes Mi-35 attack helicopter gifted by India to Afghan forces after they capture the Kunduz airport and local army headquarters

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video reportingly shows <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> captured Kunduz airport with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> Air Force Mi-35 Hind attack helicopter <a href="https://t.co/u7jZJdR800">pic.twitter.com/u7jZJdR800</a></p>— Joseph Dempsey (@JosephHDempsey) <a href="https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1425404552807858179?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


What's that?

Helicopter vs CD 70

CD 70 wins?
 
Unless they sent in the RSS brigade, known as the greatest group of soldiers in India.

Watch some Indian news on the subject, it's great entertainment. They are claiming Chinese troops will enter with troops. :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Uizq0eLAc

I could only last until 3 minutes and 18 seconds of this cringe fest.

WION or whatever these clowns are called don't even hide their propaganda.

True stupidity.
 
Looks like Subramanian is not as much of a coward as we thought he is. He already said it in June.

Gots to appreciate and support his bravery.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Send 20 000 troops to defend Indian and democratic Afghans to Kabul</p>— Subramanian Swamy (@Swamy39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1410046876007559168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Looks like Subramanian is not as much of a coward as we thought he is. He already said it in June.

Gots to appreciate and support his bravery.

What is India waiting for? Surely their 20,000 elite RSS forces can defeat the Taliban before a Bollywood movie ends?
 
As an Indian, i have no qualms about saying that India is the most irrelevant country in the world today.
India can not occupy any country for the next 200 years - I assure you this.
Im more interested in regional cooperation between china,india, pakistan and afghanistan.
Of these 4 countries, the biggest hardliners are the general population of India.
Which makes me sad that we cant form a strong bond with each other.
 
As an Indian, i have no qualms about saying that India is the most irrelevant country in the world today.
India can not occupy any country for the next 200 years - I assure you this.
Im more interested in regional cooperation between china,india, pakistan and afghanistan.
Of these 4 countries, the biggest hardliners are the general population of India.
Which makes me sad that we cant form a strong bond with each other.


Unfortunately, these are times of right wing populism. Hate gets you votes, money and power.

No country can consistently occupy a non collaborative local population. It is yet to happen in human history.
 
New Delhi: The Taliban has said it appreciates India for helping Afghan people and praised New Delhi’s reconstruction activities in war-torn Afghanistan.

Speaking exclusively to news agency ANI, Taliban Spokesperson Muhammed Suhail Shaheen said that India has been helping the Afghan people or national projects.

“We appreciate everything that has been done for people of Afghanistan like dams, national and infrastructure projects and anything that’s for Afghanistan’s development, reconstruction and economic prosperity for people,” he said.

He further denied that the Taliban has ties with Pakistan-based terror groups calling the allegations “baseless”.

“They are not based on ground realities but on basis of their certain policies towards us, on the basis of politically motivated goals,” he added.

After a series of decisive Taliban victories in Afghanistan, many countries have started closing their embassies in the region. From the United States to Denmark, several western countries have started evacuating their staff from the war-torn country.

Now, the Taliban has assured them that there is no danger from their side to diplomats and embassy staff.

Shaheen told ANI that they won’t target any embassy or diplomat.

“There is no danger from our side to embassies and diplomats. We won’t target any embassy or diplomat. We've said that in our statements many times. It is our commitment,” Muhammed Suhail Shaheen told ANI.

On being asked if the Taliban can assure India that Afghan soil will not be used against it, the spokesperson said that it follows a general policy of not allowing anyone to use Afghan soil against any country including the neighbouring nations.

When asked about reports of Indian officials meeting the Taliban in Doha, the spokesperson said that he can’t confirm that.

“There were reports about the Indian delegation meeting our delegation, but I can’t confirm that. According to my information, the separate meeting hasn’t happened but yesterday we had a meeting in Doha, in which an Indian delegation also participated,” he added.

‘Indian military presence in Afghanistan not acceptable’
On removal of Nishan Sahib from a Gurudwara in Afghanistan’s Paktia, he claimed that the religious flag was removed by the Sikh community themselves.

“When our security officials went there, they said that if the flag is seen, someone will harass them. Our people assured them and they hoisted it again,” he said.

The Taliban also made it clear that it is against Indian military presence in the war-ravaged country.

“If they (India) come to Afghanistan militarily and have their presence, I think that will not be good for them. They've seen the fate of military presence in Afghanistan of other countries, so it is an open book for them,” he added.

https://www.timesnownews.com/intern...s-won-t-target-any-embassy-or-diplomat/798939
 
When the Taliban have defeated the world's only super power then India would be stupid to send it's army in the quagmire that is Afghanistan. Taliban would wipe out the Indian soldiers in a few months with the help of the ISI. America wants India to send it's troops which India is resisting. For India's own sake they should stay out of a country that does not even neighbour them.
 
Ind is a superpower according to RSS and the Hindutuva, and its only to be expected that they send their troops to Afghanistan.
 
When the Taliban have defeated the world's only super power then India would be stupid to send it's army in the quagmire that is Afghanistan. Taliban would wipe out the Indian soldiers in a few months with the help of the ISI. America wants India to send it's troops which India is resisting. For India's own sake they should stay out of a country that does not even neighbour them.
Pretty much. India should stay as far away as possible from that country now atleast from the pro-govt factions.

Its done, the Taliban is here to stay.
 
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/taliban-warns-india-against-military-moves-in-afghanistan/799185

The Taliban has warned India against military moves in Afghanistan, pointing to the fate of other military powers.

"If they (India) come to Afghanistan militarily and have their presence, I think that will not be good for them. They've seen the fate of military presence in Afghanistan of other countries, so it is an open book for them," Taliban spokesperson Muhammed Suhail Shaheen said as per media reports.

He also denied that the Taliban has ties with other terror groups based in Pakistan.

"They are not based on ground realities but on basis of their certain policies towards us, on the basis of politically motivated goals," he added.

The Taliban has assured embassies and staff that there is no danger from their side.

The Taliban spokesperson said that it follows a general policy of not allowing anyone to use Afghan soil against any country including the neighbouring nations.

On reports of Indian officials meeting the Taliban in Doha, the spokesperson said that he could not confirm the development.

Shaheen said the Taliban appreciates India for helping the Afghan people, while also praising reconstruction activities.

"We appreciate everything that has been done for people of Afghanistan like dams, national and infrastructure projects and anything that's for Afghanistan's development, reconstruction and economic prosperity for people," he added.
 
The RSS and the Hindutuva. Dont tell us they are running scared. Afterall on here you guys tell us Ind is a superpower and has an interest in Afghanistan.

Najeebullah, back in 90s was India’s closest ally and when Taliban were gathering power he wanted to flee to India and for 4 years India refused to let him come to India, citing they didn’t want to anger the mujahedeen. Eventuelly he was killed.

And same is happening today, why isn’t India uttering a single word on Ghani, their close ally and friend. Now they want to hold talks with Taliban. Yeh kuch bhi nahi kar saktey. Would be interesting to see what happens to those many hundred afghanis getting military training in India.
 
The RSS and the Hindutuva. Dont tell us they are running scared. Afterall on here you guys tell us Ind is a superpower and has an interest in Afghanistan.

Haven't seen anyone in India asking for India to send army to Afghanistan.

Seems pakistanis are the only ones saying this rubbish.

India should never send boots to any country unless that country threatens India's sovereignity.

But we can keep funding and arming any pro india sects.
 
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Taliban spokesperson says, they remember india's role in soviet-afghan war and india is doing again same with ghani govt .... sums it up for indian govt .... future looks bleak for india ....

 
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Taliban spokesperson says, they remember india's role in soviet-afghan war and india is doing again same with ghani govt .... sums it up for indian govt .... future looks bleak for india ....


Lol the lady anchor trying her best to make India relevant. On one hand they call Taliban terrorists and the other hand they want to talk with Taliban and be part of Doha talks. Why are they even hosting the Taliban spokesperson for a lengthy interview?
 
Haven't seen anyone in India asking for India to send army to Afghanistan.

Seems pakistanis are the only ones saying this rubbish.

India should never send boots to any country unless that country threatens India's sovereignity.

But we can keep funding and arming any pro india sects.

Too scared are we? You had no interest in Afghanistan except to create your proxies and now, they like you, are running with the tail between their legs. Surely, you have a moral duty to protect your proxies :boom:
 
Too scared are we? You had no interest in Afghanistan except to create your proxies and now, they like you, are running with the tail between their legs. Surely, you have a moral duty to protect your proxies :boom:

If creating infrastructure and other developmental work means creating proxies, it only tells me the IQ level of some.

Our duty is to protect our sovereignty. If someone attacks that, the result will be another Bangladesh somewhere.
 
If creating infrastructure and other developmental work means creating proxies, it only tells me the IQ level of some.

Our duty is to protect our sovereignty. If someone attacks that, the result will be another Bangladesh somewhere.

No, creating proxies means groups like TTP, BLA, BRA etc.
 
and we dont care if we will live or not, but we will make sure that we will make you history like the ruins of mohenjo daro ..... :)

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That’s exactly what the world not just india feels about Pakistan. I don’t think it’s anything to be proud of that the impression or average stereotype is Pakistani is ready to blow himself up to prove a point. As far as i know most Indians want to live and better their lives rather than blow themselves up unless it is to save their own lives or their immediate loved ones.
 
That’s exactly what the world not just india feels about Pakistan. I don’t think it’s anything to be proud of that the impression or average stereotype is Pakistani is ready to blow himself up to prove a point. As far as i know most Indians want to live and better their lives rather than blow themselves up unless it is to save their own lives or their immediate loved ones.

Then some wonder why the world view on pakistan isnt that favourable.
 
That’s exactly what the world not just india feels about Pakistan. I don’t think it’s anything to be proud of that the impression or average stereotype is Pakistani is ready to blow himself up to prove a point. As far as i know most Indians want to live and better their lives rather than blow themselves up unless it is to save their own lives or their immediate loved ones.

Then some wonder why the world view on pakistan isnt that favourable.

we dont gve a flying eff to the world ...... we do what we think is best for our national interest ..... :)
 
Pakistan should sign up an agreement with Talibans that if Talibans come into power through a fair election process, then they should get Pakistan's support in return of Talibans sending their commandos to Indian occupied Kashmir.
 
That’s exactly what the world not just india feels about Pakistan. I don’t think it’s anything to be proud of that the impression or average stereotype is Pakistani is ready to blow himself up to prove a point. As far as i know most Indians want to live and better their lives rather than blow themselves up unless it is to save their own lives or their immediate loved ones.

That's actually what India feels about Pakistan, not 'the world'.
 
That’s exactly what the world not just india feels about Pakistan. I don’t think it’s anything to be proud of that the impression or average stereotype is Pakistani is ready to blow himself up to prove a point. As far as i know most Indians want to live and better their lives rather than blow themselves up unless it is to save their own lives or their immediate loved ones.

No. That’s Talibans way of getting what they want. And they are coming for you through Kashmir. Get ready!
 
That's actually what India feels about Pakistan, not 'the world'.

Then why is pakistan on FATF list? Why pakistani visa applications are under increased scrutiny in certain countries? Why on this forum posters shared their experiences of being pulled for questioning at airports?
 
Then why is pakistan on FATF list? Why pakistani visa applications are under increased scrutiny in certain countries? Why on this forum posters shared their experiences of being pulled for questioning at airports?

1. FATF has nothing to do with how the average Pakistani is viewed.
2. India visa applications are under increased scrutiny due to visa fraud, possibility of illegal immigration. If you have some data then bring it out, otherwise there's not much that can be said about this. Again trying to figure out how this relates to how "average Pakistani is viewed as someone that will blow themselves up". That is a strong (obviously **) claim.
3. I have literally seen Indians say the same thing on other websites about themselves, where Indians don't tend to be as nationalistic and expose issues your ilk would never bring up.
 
Then why is pakistan on FATF list? Why pakistani visa applications are under increased scrutiny in certain countries? Why on this forum posters shared their experiences of being pulled for questioning at airports?

Also to add, having talked to someone who interviews immigrants in the US and adjudicates cases, fake marriages, getting a visit visa and then getting married for green card, and visa fraud is a much bigger concern from Pakistan than terrorism. And before you get excited, that's also a concern from India. In any case, people can have visa applications scrutinized for different reason, and you are just blowing hot air by theorizing and assuming why any of this happens.
 
@18:30

Taliban spokesperson says, they remember india's role in soviet-afghan war and india is doing again same with ghani govt .... sums it up for indian govt .... future looks bleak for india ....


I genuinely don't understand how this entire fiasco in Afghanistan is going to impact the future of India. India doesn't share a border with Afghanistan and Afghanistan is a land locked country. Are you expecting the Taliban to ride in their horses and win Kashmir for Pakistan?

I repeat, whatever is happening in Afghanistan is going to impact Pakistan far more than India because Pakistan shares a long and porous border with Afghanistan and the Taliban were already demanding free movement of their people between Pakistan and Afghanistan just a week back. If the Taliban used Pakistan to supposedly attack India to help Pakistan achieve its geopolitical goals, then it means the Taliban militants have to travel through Pakistan first and expect that to inevitably affect Pakistan's security situation. The Pak govt has done well to improve its security situation since the Zarb e Azb operations in the recent years but when the Taliban are in full control of Afghanistan and there is free movement between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I expect that to impact Pakistan's security situation and it will be back to square one. Religious fundamentalism of any kind is the most dangerous thing and Pak would be flirting with it if it goes back to its good Taliban, bad Taliban policies (before you point finger at India, I'm fully against the right wing fundamentalism in India too).

India rarely if ever uses its military in conflicts not concerning it and India is generally known for sitting on the fence on geopolitical issues instead of taking an active stand and therefore expecting Indian troops in Afghanistan is silly. But if you look at Pakistan's history, it's littered with misguided foreign policies and entering geopolitical conflicts when it didn't need to and it still suffers till date from its past misguided foreign policies. I know that Pakistanis will disagree with me now which they're entitled to, but I'm pretty sure that people will look back at the events unfolding today as another one of those misguided foreign policies a decade or two later, especially if Pakistan actively allies with the Taliban like it did back in the late 90s. When fire and instability is consuming your neighbour, it's naive to not expect that fire to affect your house too, especially when the border between the two houses is less defined.
 
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Indian media are terrified of the Taliban having taken over. They are talking about the prophecy they reject, Ghazwa--Hind!. One one hand we are being told that the Taliban are terrorists whilst on the other they are promising not to harm any outside interests.

I think the Taliban will be okay providing everyone leaves them alone. Prior to 9/11 things in Pak were much better then after the Americans invaded. No one is stopping India from sending troops if they have the guts. They have no way near $2 trillion to waste like America neither is India that far that an angry Taliban can not attack them too.
 
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As each hour passes by, India are consistently losing their terrorist assets in Afghanistan.

I was predicting Kabul puppet administration to fall by 18th of September 2021; but at this rate they might fall one month earlier. Damn.

No way in hell India can even dream of interfering in Afghanistan; all bark and no bite.

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Bonus: yet another warlord captured and paraded:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">جنرل عبدالرشید دوستم کے دست راست نظام الدین قیصاری کو طالبان نے ازبکستان فرار ہونے کی کوشش کے دوران حیرتان سے گرفتار کر لیا۔ قیصاری وحشی کمانڈر کے طور پر مشہور ہیں <a href="https://t.co/Tu73JJ1vgX">pic.twitter.com/Tu73JJ1vgX</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1426869555373166596?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nizamuddin Qaisari aka "savage commander"
 
I genuinely don't understand how this entire fiasco in Afghanistan is going to impact the future of India. India doesn't share a border with Afghanistan and Afghanistan is a land locked country. Are you expecting the Taliban to ride in their horses and win Kashmir for Pakistan?

I repeat, whatever is happening in Afghanistan is going to impact Pakistan far more than India because Pakistan shares a long and porous border with Afghanistan and the Taliban were already demanding free movement of their people between Pakistan and Afghanistan just a week back. If the Taliban used Pakistan to supposedly attack India to help Pakistan achieve its geopolitical goals, then it means the Taliban militants have to travel through Pakistan first and expect that to inevitably affect Pakistan's security situation. The Pak govt has done well to improve its security situation since the Zarb e Azb operations in the recent years but when the Taliban are in full control of Afghanistan and there is free movement between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I expect that to impact Pakistan's security situation and it will be back to square one. Religious fundamentalism of any kind is the most dangerous thing and Pak would be flirting with it if it goes back to its good Taliban, bad Taliban policies (before you point finger at India, I'm fully against the right wing fundamentalism in India too).

India rarely if ever uses its military in conflicts not concerning it and India is generally known for sitting on the fence on geopolitical issues instead of taking an active stand and therefore expecting Indian troops in Afghanistan is silly. But if you look at Pakistan's history, it's littered with misguided foreign policies and entering geopolitical conflicts when it didn't need to and it still suffers till date from its past misguided foreign policies. I know that Pakistanis will disagree with me now which they're entitled to, but I'm pretty sure that people will look back at the events unfolding today as another one of those misguided foreign policies a decade or two later, especially if Pakistan actively allies with the Taliban like it did back in the late 90s. When fire and instability is consuming your neighbour, it's naive to not expect that fire to affect your house too, especially when the border between the two houses is less defined.

Top post, manypeople fail to understand this. At the end, this will effect pakistan more
 
No. That’s Talibans way of getting what they want. And they are coming for you through Kashmir. Get ready!

lol Taliban can kill some women and kids and bully some villagers at best , they are not dumb to attack India or the Indian army. Also you are talking as if Pakistan will give them a red carpet to march into India that’s the last thing a debt ridden country trying to get out of various sanctions would do. Let’s see how much celebration and chest thumping you will do once Taliban completely takes over.
 
I genuinely don't understand how this entire fiasco in Afghanistan is going to impact the future of India. India doesn't share a border with Afghanistan and Afghanistan is a land locked country. Are you expecting the Taliban to ride in their horses and win Kashmir for Pakistan?

I repeat, whatever is happening in Afghanistan is going to impact Pakistan far more than India because Pakistan shares a long and porous border with Afghanistan and the Taliban were already demanding free movement of their people between Pakistan and Afghanistan just a week back. If the Taliban used Pakistan to supposedly attack India to help Pakistan achieve its geopolitical goals, then it means the Taliban militants have to travel through Pakistan first and expect that to inevitably affect Pakistan's security situation. The Pak govt has done well to improve its security situation since the Zarb e Azb operations in the recent years but when the Taliban are in full control of Afghanistan and there is free movement between Afghanistan and Pakistan, I expect that to impact Pakistan's security situation and it will be back to square one. Religious fundamentalism of any kind is the most dangerous thing and Pak would be flirting with it if it goes back to its good Taliban, bad Taliban policies (before you point finger at India, I'm fully against the right wing fundamentalism in India too).

India rarely if ever uses its military in conflicts not concerning it and India is generally known for sitting on the fence on geopolitical issues instead of taking an active stand and therefore expecting Indian troops in Afghanistan is silly. But if you look at Pakistan's history, it's littered with misguided foreign policies and entering geopolitical conflicts when it didn't need to and it still suffers till date from its past misguided foreign policies. I know that Pakistanis will disagree with me now which they're entitled to, but I'm pretty sure that people will look back at the events unfolding today as another one of those misguided foreign policies a decade or two later, especially if Pakistan actively allies with the Taliban like it did back in the late 90s. When fire and instability is consuming your neighbour, it's naive to not expect that fire to affect your house too, especially when the border between the two houses is less defined.

Top post, manypeople fail to understand this. At the end, this will effect pakistan more

For a start, we are already seeing a notable reduction in Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan.
 
lol Taliban can kill some women and kids and bully some villagers at best , they are not dumb to attack India or the Indian army. Also you are talking as if Pakistan will give them a red carpet to march into India that’s the last thing a debt ridden country trying to get out of various sanctions would do. Let’s see how much celebration and chest thumping you will do once Taliban completely takes over.

As much as you Indians, the PTM/TTP supporters, the neo-Zionists etc. wish to put words in us Pakistanis' mouths; the only reason we are "cElEbRaTiNg" the "Taliban takeover" is because of decades of continuous TTP terrorism in Pakistan.

It seems like I have written / read the same thing over a dozen times in past week alone. But here goes yet another reminder.

Just FYI, see local support the Taliban are getting and then see Indian Army's behavior in Indian Occupied Kashmir. (Of course, without RSS extremist glasses.)
 
For a start, we are already seeing a notable reduction in Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan.

Ok good because there were recently a few high profile blasts that happened (unfortunately) in the last few weeks and I am glad you are not blaming india for it.
 
As far as Indian Occupied Kashmir is concerned: no one is gonna come out of their homes from Lahore or Kabul and struggle for them.

It is simple, if they wanna resist Indian occupation, they're gonna have to do it by themselves; otherwise they will disappear and forgotten.

That said, Pakistanis will always stand with Kashmiris. Until the end of times.
 
Ok good because there were recently a few high profile blasts that happened (unfortunately) in the last few weeks and I am glad you are not blaming india for it.

Frankly, we (PPers) don't know who is behind it. It will be just a guess. Most probably it is Indian desperation.



Pakistanis have learnt to move on from terrorist attack to terrorist attack. It is a horrifying fact.
 
lol Taliban can kill some women and kids and bully some villagers at best , they are not dumb to attack India or the Indian army. Also you are talking as if Pakistan will give them a red carpet to march into India that’s the last thing a debt ridden country trying to get out of various sanctions would do. Let’s see how much celebration and chest thumping you will do once Taliban completely takes over.

As I stated earlier, ISIS cells in Kerala were already reported by UN, and many, many Taliban commandos from Afghanistan have already went on Kashmir Jihad in the past. Even Indian govts in the past have reported it.

And it may just happen again since you guys are already not in the good books of Talibans. I think it’s good for Pakistan.

The anti-Indian Talibans in power in Afghanistan at least provides safety to Pakistan from Indian sponsored terrorism through Afghanistan.

Talibans’ next stop, Indian occupied Kashmir, will be a bonus

For now, it’s great to see you guys running away from Afghanistan with your tail between your legs.


https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...te-afghanistan-evacuates-citizens-2021-08-10/
 
Pakistanis celebrating Taliban takeover is like Chicken partying because new KFC shop opened
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Afghanistan’s fall to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> doesn’t augur well for our country. It’ll strengthen the Sino-Pak nexus against India (China has already sought militia’s help on Uyghur). The signs are not at all good, we need to be extra vigilant now at all our borders.</p>— Capt.Amarinder Singh (@capt_amarinder) <a href="https://twitter.com/capt_amarinder/status/1426928379752714250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Afghanistan’s fall to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> doesn’t augur well for our country. It’ll strengthen the Sino-Pak nexus against India (China has already sought militia’s help on Uyghur). The signs are not at all good, we need to be extra vigilant now at all our borders.</p>— Capt.Amarinder Singh (@capt_amarinder) <a href="https://twitter.com/capt_amarinder/status/1426928379752714250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Captain saab should rather wonder whether it was the Afghan army or was it the Talibans, that the Americans trained for 20 years, and India put it's share in it as well?
 
again, an indian bhakt living in 71, good for us ....
as i said earlier, try to do any misadventure again like 71, we will make you history .... :)

Oh man...you called me Bhakt you win the argument.. Congratulations
And if you are doing chest thumping atleast do it in better way... misadventure. .will make you History...like how old are you 🤣
 
Lot of failed Indian investment in Afghanistan as a result. Millions down the drain which could have been used to build toilets
 
To the chest thumpers here - celebrating this without thinking through potential consequences would be myopic. I don’t even begin to understand the logic of some people here … to each their own I suppose ….
 
Pakistan must not let in afghan refugees ,

This criminal afghan government is gonna end up massacring its own civilians and bomb its cities into rubble they are already asking civilians in lashkargah to leave so they can then carpet bomb it to oblivion someway usa did in mosul.

The biggest mistake will be to take in these refugees and give respite to namak haram government, let these displaced people turn up in kabul and when they learn their houses are rubble, they will burn this afghan government down ,

poor and pathetic post. You are enjoying what is happening to the Afghanis. This could be anyone of us.
 
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