Will India send troops to Afghanistan?

[Major]

Afghanistan itself is an artificial state that was created by ahmad shah abdali.

Ahmad shah abdali if he was alive today would be a taliban , his troops are the ancestors of the modern day taliban.

Look at durrani history it is one of jihad against Sikhs and marathas .

From my experience I've never had problem with Sikhs or Hindus in UK they actually like us pakistanis and we share a lot in common culture wise and similar interests in film music.

It's these Afghans namak harams who are full of hatred for us , we saw that at Headingley how they were behaving like crazy chimps attacking pakistani fans and using all sorts of obscenities

again, a few bunch doesnt represent the whole country.

This is like claiming all muslims are terrorist just because a few are involved in terrorist activities.

Poor choice of words, sad to see you refer Afghanis as Namak harams

 

[street cricketer]

For a start, we are already seeing a notable reduction in Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan.

The one (probably the only) good thing about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan from an Indian perspective is that it would be hard to blame India or RAW sponsoring terrorism everytime someone blows himself up in Pakistan.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The one (probably the only) good thing about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan from an Indian perspective is that it would be hard to blame India or RAW sponsoring terrorism everytime someone blows himself up in Pakistan.

Fingers crossed.

Let's see if it is true and the decline in terrorist attacks remains consistent. It all depends on Pakistani security agencies.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

The one (probably the only) good thing about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan from an Indian perspective is that it would be hard to blame India or RAW sponsoring terrorism everytime someone blows himself up in Pakistan.

But Kulbhushan was operation from Iran.
So you can never believe that RAW is gonna sit idol. They will always try to destabilize Pakistan.

Any terrorist activity in Pakistan should automatically place RAW on top of the list of purports.

 

[ahsan17]

The one (probably the only) good thing about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan from an Indian perspective is that it would be hard to blame India or RAW sponsoring terrorism everytime someone blows himself up in Pakistan.

I don't think it's so black and white. Some years ago Pakistani security agencies released a list of Indians that have supported terrorism in Pakistan and all of them were living in India. It is true that their capabilities to support terrorism will be severely diminished, but if nothing they can still fund the terrorists. You can call this an excuse or whatever but I am just being pragmatic.

 

[ahsan17]

But Kulbhushan was operation from Iran.
So you can never believe that RAW is gonna sit idol. They will always try to destabilize Pakistan.

Any terrorist activity in Pakistan should automatically place RAW on top of the list of purports.

That's true - forgot about Iran and the whole conspiracy theory about how Pakistan kidnapped him from Iran.

 

[Varun]

It's bemusing to see Pakistani posters be such fans of a radical force like the Taliban.

Maybe they should grab a bunch of Pakistanis from different corners of the country, subjugate them under Taliban rule for 6 months and make a TV show like Ertrugul on the act to make posters see the reality.

 

[Last Monetarist]

It's bemusing to see Pakistani posters be such fans of a radical force like the Taliban.

Maybe they should grab a bunch of Pakistanis from different corners of the country, subjugate them under Taliban rule for 6 months and make a TV show like Ertrugul on the act to make posters see the reality.

Nah, most people in Pakistan that I know are a touch worried about the blowback on the country.

Most of the inane jingoistic rubbish is from folks with no skin in the game.

 

[street cricketer]

But Kulbhushan was operation from Iran.
So you can never believe that RAW is gonna sit idol. They will always try to destabilize Pakistan.

Any terrorist activity in Pakistan should automatically place RAW on top of the list of purports.

I don't think it's so black and white. Some years ago Pakistani security agencies released a list of Indians that have supported terrorism in Pakistan and all of them were living in India. It is true that their capabilities to support terrorism will be severely diminished, but if nothing they can still fund the terrorists. You can call this an excuse or whatever but I am just being pragmatic.

Having grown up believing all Indian institutions as archaic, lazy and corrupt to the core, it's eye opening to me that the Indian intelligence agency seems to be the best agency in the world on par with or even better than the likes of CIA and Mossad. Maybe there's some truth in those Akshay Kumar movies afterall

It's amazing how India can destabilise Pakistan from outside Pakistan even after they have vacated Afghanistan..And yet Pakistan can't do the same in India. Why do you guys think that's the case?

 

[street cricketer]

It's bemusing to see Pakistani posters be such fans of a radical force like the Taliban.

Maybe they should grab a bunch of Pakistanis from different corners of the country, subjugate them under Taliban rule for 6 months and make a TV show like Ertrugul on the act to make posters see the reality.

Always amusing when I see Pakistanis lamenting the death of secularism and democracy in India on one hand and cheerleading the Taliban to rule Afghanistan on the other hand.

Yesterday there was one bloke on twitter (dp had a proper western style guy chilling on a sail boat) asking the official spokesperson of the Taliban to ensure that the shariah is enforced in full manner for Afghans this time around with "zero relaxation unlike the last time", while tweeting from Durban!

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Having grown up believing all Indian institutions as archaic, lazy and corrupt to the core, it's eye opening to me that the Indian intelligence agency seems to be the best agency in the world on par with or even better than the likes of CIA and Mossad. Maybe there's some truth in those Akshay Kumar movies afterall

It's amazing how India can destabilise Pakistan from outside Pakistan even after they have vacated Afghanistan..And yet Pakistan can't do the same in India. Why do you guys think that's the case?

Unless you are one of those Indians or PTM/TTP supporters who celebrate each terrorist attack on Pakistan and deaths of Pakistanis, these recent events in Afghanistan have been a mejor blunder by Indian intelligence agencies.

They're utterly defeated in Afghanistan.

 

[MenInG]

When an Air India flight carrying 40 passengers - all Afghans - from Delhi approached the airport in Kabul on Sunday afternoon, air traffic control cleared it for landing.

It was a warm, sunny day with temperatures rising to 35C.

The six-member crew had little idea of how fast things were unravelling on the ground. Taliban fighters were seizing Kabul after the government in Afghanistan collapsed, bringing to a swift end almost 20 years of a US-led coalition's presence in the country.

Even as the pilot prepared for landing, air traffic controllers told them to hold in the air, without giving any reasons.

For the next 90 minutes, sources in the airline said, the flight circled at a height of 16,000ft (5,000m) over the capital.

Anticipating landing delays and accounting for the fact that air communication at heights around Kabul can be sometimes patchy, the plane was carrying extra fuel.

Air activity around Kabul airport is also often "busy and tedious", pilots say. During this time of the year, flying into the city poses an extra challenge: the winds are strong and gusty.

There were at least two other foreign airlines circling in the air above Kabul awaiting clearance to land.

The 160-seater Air India Airbus 320, commandeered by Captain Aditya Chopra, finally landed around 15:30 Kabul time.

Usually it took between 105 and 120 minutes to fly from Delhi to Kabul; on Sunday afternoon it had taken three and a half hours.

Some passengers on the plane recounted that they could "gauge the tension on the ground", but it was not clear what it was all about.

There were soldiers skirting the runways. There was also a roar of air activity: C-17 Globemaster military transport aircraft and Chinook helicopters were flying in and out.

And they saw civilian airplanes belonging to Pakistan and Qatar parked on the tarmac.

"We heard that airport workers were sheltering at the airport, and there was a big rush of people trying to enter the airport," a passenger on the Air India flight said.

After the flight landed, the crew stayed in the cockpit as is the protocol in Kabul.

After waiting more than an hour and a half on the tarmac, the Air India plane took off with 129 passengers. Among them were some Afghan officials, at least two MPs and a senior advisor to the former president. A number of others possibly missed the flight because they were caught in traffic jams in Kabul.

"I have never seen the plight of citizens of a country so desperate to leave their land. When they walked into the plane, you could see that desperation in their eyes," one passenger said.

The majority of passengers on the flight were Afghans, escaping their country. There were also several returning Indian workers.

By the evening, there was a desperate rush of Afghans to the Kabul airport to catch a flight out of the country - videos emerged of pell-mell crowds of men, women and children inside the airport and milling on the tarmac. Major airlines were rerouting their flights to avoid flying over Afghanistan.

On Monday morning videos emerged of a rush of passengers scrambling for an Air India evacuation flight out of Kabul.

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In 1999, an Indian Airlines - which later merged with Air India - jet was hijacked en route to Delhi from Kathmandu with 180 people on board. It was flown to Kandahar in Afghanistan, from where the hijackers negotiated the release of militants fighting in Kashmir. India released three Kashmiri militants in exchange for the passengers. None of the five armed hijackers were caught.

Air India has been operating regular flights to Kabul after the war ended, but everything is uncertain now. A spokesperson said there was a scheduled commercial flight to Kabul on Monday afternoon.

"But if the airspace is closed, we won't be able to operate."

BBC

 

[street cricketer]

Unless you are one of those Indians or PTM/TTP supporters who celebrate each terrorist attack on Pakistan and deaths of Pakistanis, these recent events in Afghanistan have been a mejor blunder by Indian intelligence agencies.

They're utterly defeated in Afghanistan.

You seem to be a staunch Pakistani nationalist so much so that you're branding anyone who questions the state as terrorists.

I can understand you branding the TTP as terrorists, which is fair enough. But the PTM as far as I know is a democratic movement that fights for the rights of the displaced Pashtun people in the tribal areas. It's not even a secessionist movement. So it's a bit much calling the PTM as a terrorist organisation, but not really surprising as the right wing in India and Pakistan are mirror images of each other.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Having grown up believing all Indian institutions as archaic, lazy and corrupt to the core, it's eye opening to me that the Indian intelligence agency seems to be the best agency in the world on par with or even better than the likes of CIA and Mossad. Maybe there's some truth in those Akshay Kumar movies afterall

It's amazing how India can destabilise Pakistan from outside Pakistan even after they have vacated Afghanistan..And yet Pakistan can't do the same in India. Why do you guys think that's the case?

excellent question but you seem a little hurt, is that due to the recent failure of RAW/Ajit Doval's strategy and India's investment in Afghanistan going down into the gutter?

However, to answer your question;
IMO, unlike you guys, our hearts are not full of malice and hatred towards India as a country. Yes, we do have a very minor group of our own crazies but on a greater political spectrum, we do NOT want to destabilize India. Our domestic politics/elections/news media is not as obsessed with India, as you guys are obsessed with us.

IK has extended the hand of cooperation to Modi a few times. Our intentions are clean but many of you guys are full of deeply ingrained religious and political hatred. It's just part of you. (Yes indeed, there are some very good and sober Indians too)

Our ONLY AND ONLY issue with India is Kashmir. If Kashmir issue is resolved, Pakistan wouldn't give a flying a flock about India.

You talked about RAW's intelligence.
IMO, RAW on it's own is a piece of junk (we already saw how lame was their effort to defame Pakistan with fake news through fake media outlets); however, I am pretty sure there is A LOT of cooperation and intelligence sharing from the likes of Mossad, that has made RAW somewhat dangerous.

So it all boils down to intentions.

And now, we are entering into an interesting era. The drastically changed situation in Afghanistan is very interesting.

Let's see how things go ...

And oh yeah, the "Akhshay Kumar's movies" don't show the likes of Kulbhushan Yadav getting caught like a rat and rot in a Pak jail, neither do they show the likes of Abhinandan enjoying a Pakistani cup of tea.

Great to see that another Indian lives in the fantasies of Bollywood movies and believes all the script actually depicts the events that happen in real life.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's bemusing to see Pakistani posters be such fans of a radical force like the Taliban.

Maybe they should grab a bunch of Pakistanis from different corners of the country, subjugate them under Taliban rule for 6 months and make a TV show like Ertrugul on the act to make posters see the reality.

It's more bemusing to see Indian posters worrying about religious extremism in Afghanistan considering who their public overwhelmingly voted into office in their own country.

Maybe if they are so worried about Afghans they should put troops on the ground to support the opposition to the Taliban now that we Brits and the Americans have decided it's a mug's game.

 

[Local.Dada]

It's more bemusing to see Indian posters worrying about religious extremism in Afghanistan considering who their public overwhelmingly voted into office in their own country.

Maybe if they are so worried about Afghans they should put troops on the ground to support the opposition to the Taliban now that we Brits and the Americans have decided it's a mug's game.

It’s one of those false equivalences that is thrown around by semi-literate people to pacify themselves but one must be delusional or borderline “r” word to compare BJP to the Taliban and think they are similar

 

[Colorblind Genius]

It’s one of those false equivalences that is thrown around by semi-literate people to pacify themselves but one must be delusional or borderline “r” word to compare BJP to the Taliban and think they are similar

Obviously BJP is a lot worse than Talibans, but I don't under why are you trying a lame attempt at humor and ending up laughing at yourself?

 

[Local.Dada]

Obviously BJP is a lot worse than Talibans, but I don't under why are you trying a lame attempt at humor and ending up laughing at yourself?

So why don’t you go to your countries embassy and ask for a visa to india ruled by BJP or Afghanistan, let’s see where you would be flagged.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

So why don’t you go to your countries embassy and ask for a visa to india ruled by BJP or Afghanistan, let’s see where you would be flagged.

I have to go to MY COUNTRY'S embassy ask for a visa to India??

Since when American Embassies have started issuing INDIAN visa to American citizens?
Dude, whatever you've been smoking, must be on sale.

 

[Local.Dada]

I have to go to MY COUNTRY'S embassy ask for a visa to India??

Since when American Embassies have started issuing INDIAN visa to American citizens?
Dude, whatever you've been smoking, must be on sale.

To go to a country like Afghanistan
Or Syria you can’t just go in buy a ticket. I think you have no clue what the world thinks about these countries but since you dream about these scenarios you can try. Also living in USA cheerleading for the Taliban. I don’t think you have a problem with islamophobia i guess.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Taliban and RSS are two sides of the same coin

 

[street cricketer]

excellent question but you seem a little hurt, is that due to the recent failure of RAW/Ajit Doval's strategy and India's investment in Afghanistan going down into the gutter?

I've already said this but I actually don't mind the Taliban regime coming to power in Afghanistan from an Indian perspective (except for sad part where the poor Afghans civilians who have to suffer). It would finally put to rest the endless claim of RAW being the root cause of all trouble in Pakistan, as if Pakistan doesn't have any brainwashed religious fundamentalists who wouldn't think twice to kill a person based on alleged blasphemy claims.

However, to answer your question;
IMO, unlike you guys, our hearts are not full of malice and hatred towards India as a country. Yes, we do have a very minor group of our own crazies but on a greater political spectrum, we do NOT want to destabilize India. Our domestic politics/elections/news media is not as obsessed with India, as you guys are obsessed with us.

IK has extended the hand of cooperation to Modi a few times. Our intentions are clean but many of you guys are full of deeply ingrained religious and political hatred. It's just part of you. (Yes indeed, there are some very good and sober Indians too)

Our ONLY AND ONLY issue with India is Kashmir. If Kashmir issue is resolved, Pakistan wouldn't give a flying a flock about India.

Sure you are

You talked about RAW's intelligence.
IMO, RAW on it's own is a piece of junk (we already saw how lame was their effort to defame Pakistan with fake news through fake media outlets); however, I am pretty sure there is A LOT of cooperation and intelligence sharing from the likes of Mossad, that has made RAW somewhat dangerous.

So it all boils down to intentions.

My simple question to you is this. Some random Sharma or Gupta aren't making their way into Pakistan and actually blowing themselves up. It is Pakistani civilians themselves who are doing it. So why is there a situation where a few Pakistanis are ready to wage war against the Pakistani state at the behest of their arch rivals and why can't the ISI find same groups in India? If India has Israeli support, Pakistan has Chinese support too, that seems like an excuse to absolve yourself of all faults.

And now, we are entering into an interesting era. The drastically changed situation in Afghanistan is very interesting.

Let's see how things go ...

I agree with you on this. It's going to be very interesting to see how geopolitical scenarios pan out from here.

And oh yeah, the "Akhshay Kumar's movies" don't show the likes of Kulbhushan Yadav getting caught like a rat and rot in a Pak jail, neither do they show the likes of Abhinandan enjoying a Pakistani cup of tea.

Great to see that another Indian lives in the fantasies of Bollywood movies and believes all the script actually depicts the events that happen in real life.

That was obviously a tongue in cheek statement. You took that seriously

 

[street cricketer]

Taliban and RSS are two sides of the same coin

I respect this stance way more than calling RSS as terrorists and then cheerleading the Taliban.

 

[warcry]

Taliban and RSS are two sides of the same coin

imagine equating a group that bases itself (or atleats claims to base itself) on islamic principles, with a group that bases itself ( or atleast claims to base itself ) on Hindu/Dharmic Principles.

you make the fallacy that Islam and Hinduism/Dharma and its principles are the same.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

You seem to be a staunch Pakistani nationalist so much so that you're branding anyone who questions the state as terrorists.

I can understand you branding the TTP as terrorists, which is fair enough. But the PTM as far as I know is a democratic movement that fights for the rights of the displaced Pashtun people in the tribal areas. It's not even a secessionist movement. So it's a bit much calling the PTM as a terrorist organisation, but not really surprising as the right wing in India and Pakistan are mirror images of each other.

PTM publicly celebrated the Peshawar massacre perpetrated by Indian sponsored TTP. PTM leadership asked for bombings of Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad.


I don't know, but these people sound like terrorists to me...

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In view of the prevailing circumstances, it has been decided that our Ambassador in Kabul and his Indian staff will move to India immediately.</p>— Arindam Bagchi (@MEAIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MEAIndia/status/1427469776243232802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Video of defeated Indian terrorism spreader parasites abandoning land of Afghanistan:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">150 بھارتی شہریوں کو کابل ائیرپورٹ سے نکال لیا گیا<br>خصوصی پرواز کے ذریعے انھیں بھارت واپس لے جایا گیا <a href="https://t.co/HPd3NhbMrW">pic.twitter.com/HPd3NhbMrW</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1427601443889074197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[KingKhanWC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In view of the prevailing circumstances, it has been decided that our Ambassador in Kabul and his Indian staff will move to India immediately.</p>— Arindam Bagchi (@MEAIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MEAIndia/status/1427469776243232802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Goodbye to Indians.

Nice to hear from a Pakistani persepective

 

[Runner Up]

Is this real? Are they real Taliban or just a propaganda video? Taliban threatening India.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">भारत को धमकी&#55357;&#56391;&#55357;&#56391; <a href="https://t.co/BJ1GmgGnuK">pic.twitter.com/BJ1GmgGnuK</a></p>— मनोज #हिन्दू (@Fan_bhagat_sing) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fan_bhagat_sing/status/1427498362517942272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Greenstorm]

What will happen to ANA cadets and soldiers currently being trained in India ? All that training for nothing.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Talibans and Kashmir

There has been a mixed feedback by various self proclaimed analysists in India and Pakistan.

On one side, there is a notion in India that Afghani Talibans and Pakistani Talibans are pair made in heaven. And these two combined will start Jihaad-e-Kashmir The very low possibility of this occurring is due to easy access to Indian occupied Kashmir through northern borders.

Pakistan's ISI and Army may also want this to happen because liberation of Kashmir has been a goal.

On the other hand, some Indians proclaim that Talibans are tigers only at home. Afghanistan has been a graveyard of empires only when the empires try to enter into Afghanistan. Afghani Talibans haven't done anything of significance outside of Afghanistan, so their indulgence into Kashmir is limited. But then again, if they join forces with Pakistani Talibans then Afghani Talibans can set new goals for themselves?

However, my point of discussion is, Indian Occupied Kashmir is potentially a HUGE money making market for global arm producing countries.

Will they try to instigate insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir to tap on this goldmine?

 

[Napa]

There has been a mixed feedback by various self proclaimed analysists in India and Pakistan.

On one side, there is a notion in India that Afghani Talibans and Pakistani Talibans are pair made in heaven. And these two combined will start Jihaad-e-Kashmir The very low possibility of this occurring is due to easy access to Indian occupied Kashmir through northern borders.

Pakistan's ISI and Army may also want this to happen because liberation of Kashmir has been a goal.

On the other hand, some Indians proclaim that Talibans are tigers only at home. Afghanistan has been a graveyard of empires only when the empires try to enter into Afghanistan. Afghani Talibans haven't done anything of significance outside of Afghanistan, so their indulgence into Kashmir is limited. But then again, if they join forces with Pakistani Talibans then Afghani Talibans can set new goals for themselves?

However, my point of discussion is, Indian Occupied Kashmir is potentially a HUGE money making market for global arm producing countries.

Will they try to instigate insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir to tap on this goldmine?

India is already spending quite a bit of money buying arms, it won't buy any more to counteract the Taliban. The main target for expensive arms is China, not those attacking Indian Kashmir.

I think the Pakistani Army/ISI will think many times before sending over the Taliban to attack Indian forces in Kashmir. Last time India send over Migs to bomb Pakistan, next time it will send Rafaels.

The fact that Pakistan did not want a war with India should be obvious from the fact that they sent back Abhinandan two days after he was downed. Given that the man had gone and bombed Pakistan without a declared war in existence, one would expect he would have been put on trial or at least some thought given to the matter rather than sending him home promptly.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

India is already spending quite a bit of money buying arms, it won't buy any more to counteract the Taliban. The main target for expensive arms is China, not those attacking Indian Kashmir.

I think the Pakistani Army/ISI will think many times before sending over the Taliban to attack Indian forces in Kashmir. Last time India send over Migs to bomb Pakistan, next time it will send Rafaels.

The fact that Pakistan did not want a war with India should be obvious from the fact that they sent back Abhinandan two days after he was downed. Given that the man had gone and bombed Pakistan without a declared war in existence, one would expect he would have been put on trial or at least some thought given to the matter rather than sending him home promptly.

I guess in panic, you didn't read the last line.
I am not even talking about Pakistan there.

I am talking about big countries whose main business is to sell weapons regardless of who is the buyer. And Talibans are huge buyer of weapons if they go to Kashmir.
Many such countries may be the driving force behind the instigation of insurgencies all over the globe, to sell their product.

Lets try again with your answer after you have read and understood the last sentence of my previous post.

 

[Napa]

I am talking about big countries whose main business is to sell weapons regardless of who is the buyer. And Talibans are huge buyer of weapons if they go to Kashmir.

Yes, indeed... the big countries are salivating at the prospect of selling weapons to a country whose GDP is $19 billion and falling.



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[Colorblind Genius]

Yes, indeed... the big countries are salivating at the prospect of selling weapons to a country whose GDP is $19 billion and falling.

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One of the big weapon producing countries have already spent over a $1 trillion in that $19B GDP ... ironic isn't it?

However, Afghanistan's off the table trade is poppy. You may not see the numbers on the papers but for big players it's a double dip.
Trade the weapons with poppy and marijuana.

 

[street cricketer]

I guess in panic, you didn't read the last line.
I am not even talking about Pakistan there.

I am talking about big countries whose main business is to sell weapons regardless of who is the buyer. And Talibans are huge buyer of weapons if they go to Kashmir.
Many such countries may be the driving force behind the instigation of insurgencies all over the globe, to sell their product.

Lets try again with your answer after you have read and understood the last sentence of my previous post.

A few issues with this post.

1. How are the Taliban going to buy weapons. The Afghan economy, as it is, is a very primitive economy and I think their biggest exports might be fruits and dry fruits. Where is the money to buy all these weapons going to come from?

2. Even if they somehow procure the weapons, how are they going to attack India exactly? Through infiltration? The Indo-Pak border is not exactly as porous as the Af-Pak border. Or are they going to roll down the streets of Srinagar in their Humvees?

If Pakistan military could invade Kashmir, they would've done so already, especially after India's move with repealing article 370. If a professional army like Pakistan cannot openly attack India and get Kashmir all these years since independence, what's a rag tag militia of men who are not even properly trained going to do. It's one thing to play the long game and beat foreign nations in your own country through low level insurgency, it's totally different thing to attack another sovereign country with a professional army.

All this is pointless talk. The Taliban are not stupid, they're looking for legitimacy and support from the world for their regime and are taking active steps to garner good pr unlike their first tenure. They have no reason to attack India. It's one thing to attack other states as a militant outfit, but it's a different matter when you lead a country and deal with the responsibilities that come with it. The Taliban have already announced they are not opposed to India and invited them to finish their incomplete infrastructure projects in Afghanistan. What is a more likely scenario would be the relationship that India share with the Iranian regime (which is not that different to the Taliban in its current form). The Iranians do criticise India for its policy on Kashmir from time to time, but they nevertheless cooperate with India in infrastructure projects in Iran. That will be the likely scenario "if" India ends up recognising the Taliban government.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

A few issues with this post.

1. How are the Taliban going to buy weapons. The Afghan economy, as it is, is a very primitive economy and I think their biggest exports might be fruits and dry fruits. Where is the money to buy all these weapons going to come from?

2. Even if they somehow procure the weapons, how are they going to attack India exactly? Through infiltration? The Indo-Pak border is not exactly as porous as the Af-Pak border. Or are they going to roll down the streets of Srinagar in their Humvees?

If Pakistan military could invade Kashmir, they would've done so already, especially after India's move with repealing article 370. If a professional army like Pakistan cannot openly attack India and get Kashmir all these years since independence, what's a rag tag militia of men who are not even properly trained going to do. It's one thing to play the long game and beat foreign nations in your own country through low level insurgency, it's totally different thing to attack another sovereign country with a professional army.

All this is pointless talk. The Taliban are not stupid, they're looking for legitimacy and support from the world for their regime and are taking active steps to garner good pr unlike their first tenure. They have no reason to attack India. It's one thing to attack other states as a militant outfit, but it's a different matter when you lead a country and deal with the responsibilities that come with it. The Taliban have already announced they are not opposed to India and invited them to finish their incomplete infrastructure projects in Afghanistan. What is a more likely scenario would be the relationship that India share with the Iranian regime (which is not that different to the Taliban in its current form). The Iranians do criticise India for its policy on Kashmir from time to time, but they nevertheless cooperate with India in infrastructure projects in Iran. That will be the likely scenario "if" India ends up recognising the Taliban government.

So you are thinking that Pakistani Talibans and Afghani Talibans won't auto connect and fight for a common cause? Yes, that's your opinion and yes, that is a possibility. Thank you for your input.

And no, fruits is not even the fraction of Afghanistan's major exports which is precious gems and illegal drugs.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

An even more interesting development today.

China has asked it's embassy staff to fully cooperate with Talibans and follow their law and culture including the dress code and dining in Public.

It's very contrasting as to how India closed all it's missions and embassies in Afghanistan and all of it's staff had to run with their tail between their legs. One wonder's why?

 

[street cricketer]

So you are thinking that Pakistani Talibans and Afghani Talibans won't auto connect and fight for a common cause? Yes, that's your opinion and yes, that is a possibility. Thank you for your input.

And no, fruits is not even the fraction of Afghanistan's major exports which is precious gems and illegal drugs.

The primary objectives of the Afghani Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban are different even though both are fundamentalist groups. The Pakistani Taliban aims to do the same in Pakistan what the Afghan Taliban just did in Afghanistan, i.e., force their way to power by waging a war against the state. It's another thing that's not practical because Pakistan actually has a competent military unlike Afghanistan, but why would they suddenly go to Kashmir without fulfilling their primary objective. It makes no sense.

Even if we were to assume that it happens, just how would this attack take place? Would they infiltrate as foot soldiers? How would it be any different to Pak soldiers crossing the LoC and if it were that easy, wouldn't Pak army already have done it?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

The primary objectives of the Afghani Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban are different even though both are fundamentalist groups. The Pakistani Taliban aims to do the same in Pakistan what the Afghan Taliban just did in Afghanistan, i.e., force their way to power by waging a war against the state. It's another thing that's not practical because Pakistan actually has a competent military unlike Afghanistan, but why would they suddenly go to Kashmir without fulfilling their primary objective. It makes no sense.

Even if we were to assume that it happens, just how would this attack take place? Would they infiltrate as foot soldiers? How would it be any different to Pak soldiers crossing the LoC and if it were that easy, wouldn't Pak army already have done it?

See, you can't have it both ways when it comes to your border security.

On one hand, you thump your chest that's it's impregnable (and I tend believe it too).

But then, on the other hand, you guys claim that Pulwama attackers illegally crossed the border from Pakistan, and went to Kashmir.
Qasab and his entire team just walked in and crossed the border, and caused havoc in Mumbai.

which one is it?

 

[ahmedzee]

Every last indian embassy worker, those funding anti-Pakistan terrorist within Afghanistan, were just kicked out by the Taliban.
India should hang its head in shame. For 20 years they tried their best to fuel anti-Pakistan elements within Afghanistan, and in the end they're shown the door. $3B invested in supplying arms and ammunition to terrorists went down the gutter. So sad!

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

There has been a mixed feedback by various self proclaimed analysists in India and Pakistan.

On one side, there is a notion in India that Afghani Talibans and Pakistani Talibans are pair made in heaven. And these two combined will start Jihaad-e-Kashmir The very low possibility of this occurring is due to easy access to Indian occupied Kashmir through northern borders.

Pakistan's ISI and Army may also want this to happen because liberation of Kashmir has been a goal.

On the other hand, some Indians proclaim that Talibans are tigers only at home. Afghanistan has been a graveyard of empires only when the empires try to enter into Afghanistan. Afghani Talibans haven't done anything of significance outside of Afghanistan, so their indulgence into Kashmir is limited. But then again, if they join forces with Pakistani Talibans then Afghani Talibans can set new goals for themselves?

However, my point of discussion is, Indian Occupied Kashmir is potentially a HUGE money making market for global arm producing countries.

Will they try to instigate insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir to tap on this goldmine?

Afghan taliban have made no claims or given any indications that they have designs outside Afghanistan

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India is already spending quite a bit of money buying arms, it won't buy any more to counteract the Taliban. The main target for expensive arms is China, not those attacking Indian Kashmir.

I think the Pakistani Army/ISI will think many times before sending over the Taliban to attack Indian forces in Kashmir. Last time India send over Migs to bomb Pakistan, next time it will send Rafaels.

The fact that Pakistan did not want a war with India should be obvious from the fact that they sent back Abhinandan two days after he was downed. Given that the man had gone and bombed Pakistan without a declared war in existence, one would expect he would have been put on trial or at least some thought given to the matter rather than sending him home promptly.

Lol. How do you expect anyone to take your 'analytic data' approach seriously when you come out with comedy gold like this?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Watch the Indian "consulate staff" happiness as they flee from Afghanistan:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بھارتی شہری فلائٹ کے دوران<br>کابل سے بحفاظت نکلنے کی خوشی جہاز میں مناتے ہوئے <a href="https://t.co/c8mfSXa3Xr">pic.twitter.com/c8mfSXa3Xr</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1429185916447379458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Watch the Indian "consulate staff" happiness as they flee from Afghanistan:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بھارتی شہری فلائٹ کے دوران<br>کابل سے بحفاظت نکلنے کی خوشی جہاز میں مناتے ہوئے <a href="https://t.co/c8mfSXa3Xr">pic.twitter.com/c8mfSXa3Xr</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1429185916447379458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lol, a classical display of guilty conciousness.
If they truly had honest intentions to work and rebuild Afghanistan and if they truly had any sympathy for the Afghani people, they would've been in sobering mood after doing all their hard work going down the drain.

But they are now happy because they just got their lives saved after doing the ill works and had ill intentions in Afghanistan. They were never honest with Afghanistan.

Funny that within India, the current BJP is all burnt about the Muslim rule of India, not letting the Hindu public know that many of them muslim invaders actually came from Afghanistan.

So if there was no Pakistan, BJP's # 1 enemy to run their politics would've been Afghanistan.

 

[street cricketer]

See, you can't have it both ways when it comes to your border security.

On one hand, you thump your chest that's it's impregnable (and I tend believe it too).

But then, on the other hand, you guys claim that Pulwama attackers illegally crossed the border from Pakistan, and went to Kashmir.
Qasab and his entire team just walked in and crossed the border, and caused havoc in Mumbai.

which one is it?

I'm not "thumping my chest" lol, I'm just speaking common sense here. It'll always be very hard for a group of militia to cause any trouble to a professional army. I doubt the Taliban would be able to cause any trouble to Iran's military if they suddenly decided to infiltrate or invade Iran. How do you expect the Taliban to cause trouble to India when they don't even share a land border with India. Sure, they could traverse through Pakistan, but the numbers aren't going to be enough to cause a major issue. I'm not saying nobody can cross through the border. 1 or 2 fighters can cross the LoC from time to time to fight the Indian army, but they're not going impact the status of Kashmir.

Besides, Mumbai attacks happened when nobody expected these kind of things to happen in India. Sure we had read about mass shooting deaths in schools and public places by American nutjobs in the US or even in Russia like the school massacre by Chechen terrorists. But the Mumbai attacks was in many ways a first of its kind in India when everyone was caught off guard. The security in railway stations did not used to be tight and would just have a handful of policemen. That attacks changed everything and nowadays you find commandos in all major railway stations and airports.

The Mumbai attacks were caused by Pakistani nationals who came via sea route. The security apparatus was caught napping by those attacks. Pulwama attacks wasn't caused by Pakistani nationals though - it was caused by an ethnic Kashmiri born and raised in the Kashmir valley. He probably received monetary support to acquire the materials to build the bomb from Pakistani agencies, but the attack itself was caused by someone who was from this side of the LoC. It's why many Indians talked strongly against carrying out cross border air strikes when there was heavy nationalistic sentiment in the Indian media for carrying the air strikes. The detractors said Pulwama happened because of a lapse in the Indian security apparatus and it was carried out by someone from our side of the border, therefore security should be tightened instead of carrying out air strikes against Pakistan and triggering a nuclear war in the region.

Indian nationalists generally believe the situation in Kashmir is largely peaceful and it is only Pakistan that strives to disturb peace in the region. They fail to identify the organic and indigenous nature of the conflict and Pakistan can at best support it, but the Kashmir conflict is mainly a result of issues inside Kashmir and not from Pakistan. The Pakistani nationalists are an exact mirror image of the Indian nationalists and blame India and Afghanistan for every attack in Pakistan. Sure the NDS and RAW might support the Pakistani Taliban or the BLA through monetary support, but that's no different to the ISI supporting the Afghani Taliban or Kashmiri militant groups. But at the end of the day, the TTP and BLA attacks are not carried out by hindus or christians or sikhs or jews but muslims who are born and brought up in Pakistan (not even Afghanistan). You cannot support a major insurgency in any region unless there are massive underlying issues in the region. If a Pakistani general promises to provide a huge sum to anyone who blows himself up or carries out attacks in Maharashtra or Karnataka or Tamil Nadu, he might at best find a few willing nutcases, but not enough to sustain a huge insurgency. The fact that there are insurgencies running in Pakistan is a result of the past foreign policy mishaps of the Pakistani state/ISI and not India or Afghanistan. But not many Pakistanis know about the foreign policies that were undertaken by the ISI and Pakistan during the days of Hamid Gul and Zia ul Haq, therefore the Pak nationalists find it easier to blame India for all its flaws just like Indian nationalists who like to blame Pakistan for all the mishaps in Kashmir.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

India are already sizing up the elite Badri 313 Battalion:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really terrific show today on the Taliban’s Badri 313 special unit, its origins, new social media embrace and whether it’s a true special ops force to reckon with. With <a href="https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SandeepUnnithan</a> & 2 special ops veterans. Full show: <a href="https://t.co/conocCsOir">https://t.co/conocCsOir</a> <a href="https://t.co/WEAiCLcvro">pic.twitter.com/WEAiCLcvro</a></p>— Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1428040456068161537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spoiler

 

[ahmedzee]

Watch the Indian "consulate staff" happiness as they flee from Afghanistan:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بھارتی شہری فلائٹ کے دوران<br>کابل سے بحفاظت نکلنے کی خوشی جہاز میں مناتے ہوئے <a href="https://t.co/c8mfSXa3Xr">pic.twitter.com/c8mfSXa3Xr</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1429185916447379458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Majority of them were there to push their anti-Pakistan narrative, and not to build/rebuild Afghanistan. Glad these terrorist trainers are kicked out of Afghanistan. Any other regime would've massacred them (considering they spent 20 years fighting against the former rulers of that region).

 

[cric_man]

Bakhshi is not happy...


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[Colorblind Genius]

Bakhshi is not happy...


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The kinda comedy, a small over dose of alcohol, will make you render.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Looks like someone can't hold the hypocrisy anymore.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will the bureaucrat duo Jaishankar and Doval ever apologise to the nation for the mess they have landed India in the international scene? They were given a free hand because Modi trusts politicians not peer level politicians. Now we in a mess with all our neighbours.</p>— Subramanian Swamy (@Swamy39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1426386852450164737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Majority of them were there to push their anti-Pakistan narrative, and not to build/rebuild Afghanistan. Glad these terrorist trainers are kicked out of Afghanistan. Any other regime would've massacred them (considering they spent 20 years fighting against the former rulers of that region).

Of course they weren't there to rebuild Afghanistan, they haven't got money to build India never mind other countries in the far distance. Their only purpose was to cause trouble for Pakistan and to try to maintain some sort of relevance. But they would only have that if they involved Pakistan as well which is like poison to them.

 

[loves_cricket]

As far as money concerned we have 630 billion usd in foreign reserves and we only spent 3 billion usd on Afghanistan infrastructure projects, if you remove your anti india glasses for a moment, even Taliban have appreciated them.
But of course india might have lost money, but afghans got something and that's what called humanity.

 

[Vegitto1]

What will India do if Taliban enter IOK via China? Can't blame Pakistan when Taliban openly accept responsibility.

 

[ahmedzee]

As far as money concerned we have 630 billion usd in foreign reserves and we only spent 3 billion usd on Afghanistan infrastructure projects, if you remove your anti india glasses for a moment, even Taliban have appreciated them.
But of course india might have lost money, but afghans got something and that's what called humanity.

Maybe it would be better to spend 630B reserves on indians, a massive population that is starving on a daily basis. Afghanistan doesn't even benefit india, apart from their goal of destablizing Pakistan. Literally india has no business there. So I understand the sadness that indian ran with their tail between the legs as soon as Taliban came. Their purpose was only 1, build a militia to terrorize Pakistan. Thank goodness the RAW agents ran like cowards once Kabul was conquered by Taliban.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Maybe it would be better to spend 630B reserves on indians, a massive population that is starving on a daily basis. Afghanistan doesn't even benefit india, apart from their goal of destablizing Pakistan. Literally india has no business there. So I understand the sadness that indian ran with their tail between the legs as soon as Taliban came. Their purpose was only 1, build a militia to terrorize Pakistan. Thank goodness the RAW agents ran like cowards once Kabul was conquered by Taliban.

lol yeah .... for all I care, they can use that $630 Billion instead of toilet papers.
They just added the maximum number of people in extreme poverty in a year.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/governance/mass-poverty-is-back-in-india-76348

 

[Napa]

No need for India to send troops to Afghanistan. Instead the Taliban will be sending troops to India.

"A leader of Pakistan’s ruling Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) government has said that the Taliban would help the country in ‘liberating’ Kashmir from India. Speaking at a television news debate, PTI leader Neelam Irshad Sheikh said, “Taliban have said that they are with us and they will help us in [liberating] Kashmir.”"

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...leader-on-tv-news-debate-101629818453064.html

The following is comedy gold. The other panelists just can't stop laughing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> leader Neelam Irshad Sheikh: Taliban have announced that they will join hands with Pakistan to liberate Kashmir. <a href="https://t.co/MfC7mQ6lLh">pic.twitter.com/MfC7mQ6lLh</a></p>— SAMRI (@SAMRIReports) <a href="https://twitter.com/SAMRIReports/status/1429883964701958144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Romali_rotti]

What will India do if Taliban enter IOK via China? Can't blame Pakistan when Taliban openly accept responsibility.

NAyy no issues, Indian army will just kill em off if then enter IOK no big deal...

 

[Napa]

IK has extended the hand of cooperation to Modi a few times.

By calling him a "small man", " coward" and "Hitler"? What is the worst Modi has said about IK?

And now, we are entering into an interesting era. The drastically changed situation in Afghanistan is very interesting.

Let's see how things go ...

Not sure what you are expecting as far as India is concerned? Sure, India threw away a few billion dollars in Afghanistan, no biggie. In return for its invest India has become more allied with the US from which it gets also $50 billion in net sales every year. NATO allies of the US sent troops to Afghanistan. The least India could have done was to send money engineers.

Big issues for the present Indian government would be:

1) Develop the manufacturing sector.
2) Deepen the alliance with the US and other Western powers.

Afghanistan and even Pakistan are really not very relevant to India, some silly ideas about access to Central Asia notwithstanding. Won't say they are of zero importance, but largely irrelevant when it comes to the above objectives.

India and Pakistan are not a zero sum game. Something good for Pakistan is not bad for India and vice versa. Pakistan should fix its own economy rather than deluding itself that India leaving Afghanistan has. brought it some great benefit.

 

[ahsan17]

\Pakistan should fix its own economy rather than deluding itself that India leaving Afghanistan has. brought it some great benefit.

If India leaving Afghanistan significantly diminishes Pakistan's security concerns w.r.t Indian support for TTP, BLA and several other terrorist organizations then it would have been of great benefit for Pakistan.

 

[Napa]

If India leaving Afghanistan significantly diminishes Pakistan's security concerns w.r.t Indian support for TTP, BLA and several other terrorist organizations then it would have been of great benefit for Pakistan.

Pakistan's problem isn't any alleged Indian support for terrorism within Pakistan, it is that modern industries haven't developed in Pakistan.

If India rather than Pakistan was sponsoring terror, then Pakistan wouldn't be sitting in FATF grey list for over 5 years now.

Stop deluding yourself and fix your economy.

 

[ahsan17]

Pakistan's problem isn't any alleged Indian support for terrorism within Pakistan, it is that modern industries haven't developed in Pakistan.

Two things can be true at the same time.

If India rather than Pakistan was sponsoring terror, then Pakistan wouldn't be sitting in FATF grey list for over 5 years now.

Stop deluding yourself and fix your economy.

FATF grey list has nothing to do with state sponsorship of terrorism. Not sure why Indians keep repeating this myth.

 

[Napa]

Two things can be true at the same time.

FATF grey list has nothing to do with state sponsorship of terrorism. Not sure why Indians keep repeating this myth.

It has everything to do with state sponsorship of terrorism. As a Pakistani Minister recently said, FATF is being used for political purposes. Why is politics dictating that Pakistan be sanctioned by the Western nations (which have been the greatest influence in getting Pakistan on the grey list)? Ever heard of the Haqqani network? Or the guys who came on a boat to Mumbai in 2008?

You may like to believe otherwise, but state sponsorship of terrorism is the reason why Pakistan is on the grey list. Countries don't randomly end up on FATF lists.

 

[ahsan17]

It has everything to do with state sponsorship of terrorism. As a Pakistani Minister recently said, FATF is being used for political purposes. Why is politics dictating that Pakistan be sanctioned by the Western nations (which have been the greatest influence in getting Pakistan on the grey list)? Ever heard of the Haqqani network? Or the guys who came on a boat to Mumbai in 2008?

You may like to believe otherwise, but state sponsorship of terrorism is the reason why Pakistan is on the grey list. Countries don't randomly end up on FATF lists.

That could be because of CPEC and Pakistan moving much closer to China.

Why isn't KSA in this list by your own measure?

It's got nothing to do with state sponsorship of terrorism, but rather who is on who's side. India is easily the biggest sponsor of terrorism but because it's in the west camp it doesn't get the same treatment.

 

[Napa]

That could be because of CPEC and Pakistan moving much closer to China.

Why isn't KSA in this list by your own measure?

Because KSA hasn't been arming the Haqqanis... and KSA buys $80 billion of US arms... and though some KSA royals gave money to OBL, most of the KSA royals are loyal to the US.

It's got nothing to do with state sponsorship of terrorism, but rather who is on who's side. India is easily the biggest sponsor of terrorism but because it's in the west camp it doesn't get the same treatment.

That is your delusion. Did Indians on a boat attack Karachi? There is no benefit from terrorism for India, its priorities are different.

Enough of this thread, I am out.

 

[ahsan17]

Because KSA hasn't been arming the Haqqanis... and KSA buys $80 billion of US arms... and though some KSA royals gave money to OBL, most of the KSA royals are loyal to the US.



That is your delusion. Did Indians on a boat attack Karachi? There is no benefit from terrorism for India, its priorities are different.

Enough of this thread, I am out.

Lmao yes, so you are proving my point about whose side you are on. As for terrorism in Pakistan not benefitting India, clearly that's not the case, since India has wanted CPEC to disappear for a while. In addition, security concerns due to terrorism can impact FDI.

In any case, India's capabilities to export terrorism will now be greatly diminished.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

By calling him a "small man", " coward" and "Hitler"? What is the worst Modi has said about IK?



Not sure what you are expecting as far as India is concerned? Sure, India threw away a few billion dollars in Afghanistan, no biggie. In return for its invest India has become more allied with the US from which it gets also $50 billion in net sales every year. NATO allies of the US sent troops to Afghanistan. The least India could have done was to send money engineers.

Big issues for the present Indian government would be:

1) Develop the manufacturing sector.
2) Deepen the alliance with the US and other Western powers.

Afghanistan and even Pakistan are really not very relevant to India, some silly ideas about access to Central Asia notwithstanding. Won't say they are of zero importance, but largely irrelevant when it comes to the above objectives.

India and Pakistan are not a zero sum game. Something good for Pakistan is not bad for India and vice versa. Pakistan should fix its own economy rather than deluding itself that India leaving Afghanistan has. brought it some great benefit.

Wish this was true. We would likely see far less interference in Afghanistan, and negative propaganda re Pakistan blasted daily in all sections of Indian media. We would certainly see far less Indian posters on Pak message boards and social media in general.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Pakistan's problem isn't any alleged Indian support for terrorism within Pakistan, it is that modern industries haven't developed in Pakistan.

If India rather than Pakistan was sponsoring terror, then Pakistan wouldn't be sitting in FATF grey list for over 5 years now.

Stop deluding yourself and fix your economy.

looks like you are high on something, have you ever heard of FATF before modi 2014 ? i bet you didnt. Pakistan was twice in grey list in 2012 and cme back again, long before modi cme to power ..... so stop being delusional that its becoz of modi ..... modi cant do jack sh1t against Pakistan .... get this in your head ..... understand .......

 

[Lonewarrior]

Indian media wants surgical strike to target Talibans in Pakistan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">पाकिस्तान में मना तालिबानी जीत का जश्न <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/gauravcsawant?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gauravcsawant</a> <a href="https://t.co/BbQgi8cyl2">pic.twitter.com/BbQgi8cyl2</a></p>— AajTak (@aajtak) <a href="https://twitter.com/aajtak/status/1430101203120136195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Lonewarrior]

Meanwhile in Islamabad .....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Situation of Pakistan and China right now ����������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> <a href="https://t.co/vMAOBc1UJJ">pic.twitter.com/vMAOBc1UJJ</a></p>— Rising Pakistan ���� (@Pakcoalition) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pakcoalition/status/1430074577942585348?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Runner Up]

Indian media wants surgical strike to target Talibans in Pakistan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">पाकिस्तान में मना तालिबानी जीत का जश्न <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/gauravcsawant?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gauravcsawant</a> <a href="https://t.co/BbQgi8cyl2">pic.twitter.com/BbQgi8cyl2</a></p>— AajTak (@aajtak) <a href="https://twitter.com/aajtak/status/1430101203120136195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL they are in panic mode. Last time they got panicked, they ended up shooting down their own chopper.

 

[the Great Khan]

looks like you are high on something, have you ever heard of FATF before modi 2014 ? i bet you didnt. Pakistan was twice in grey list in 2012 and cme back again, long before modi cme to power ..... so stop being delusional that its becoz of modi ..... modi cant do jack sh1t against Pakistan .... get this in your head ..... understand .......

He's high on bhakt juice. This concoction regularly induces delusions of grandeur, the worship of fascists, and the all-around ability to spout nonsense on internet forums while at the same time expecting zero response to said nonsense.

the said individual has zero knowledge of the geopolitical realities we live in or is so deluded cares to sink his head in the sand while screaming "ve are a shooper powa" at the top of his lungs..

 

[the Great Khan]

LOL they are in panic mode. Last time they got panicked, they ended up shooting down their own chopper.

but but they dont care about Pakistan!!

 

[Realromeo]

Indian media wants surgical strike to target Talibans in Pakistan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="hi" dir="ltr">पाकिस्तान में मना तालिबानी जीत का जश्न <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taliban?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Taliban</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Afghanistan</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/gauravcsawant?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gauravcsawant</a> <a href="https://t.co/BbQgi8cyl2">pic.twitter.com/BbQgi8cyl2</a></p>— AajTak (@aajtak) <a href="https://twitter.com/aajtak/status/1430101203120136195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These North Indian medias are so stupid. They are absolute jokers and nothing else. They have very little respect among the people. Their journalism has to be the bottom of the barrel. Don't take these jokers seriously.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

And the stupidity continues, idiot Indian TV panelists warning of an all out war...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">سب پاکستانی سن لیں<br> اب غزوہ ہند نہیں غزوہ پاکستان ہوگا<br>ہندو تجزیہ کار پروفیسر کپل کمار کا دعوی <a href="https://t.co/n8lPeLY27S">pic.twitter.com/n8lPeLY27S</a></p>— افغان اردو (@AfghanUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/AfghanUrdu/status/1431612898187558914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Lonewarrior]

India couldnt even added the word "Terrorists" with Taliban on UNSC statement under his Presidency ...... lol

 

[rockyboy2018]

Maybe Indian comedians can learn a thing or two from their news anchors

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

India couldnt even added the word "Terrorists" with Taliban on UNSC statement under his Presidency ...... lol

Taliban might have a fully functioning embassy in Delhi by the end of next year!

 

[Lonewarrior]

Taliban might have a fully functioning embassy in Delhi by the end of next year!

but what about the policy of indian regime about "Terror and talks cant go hand in hand" ..... lol

 

[ahsan17]

but what about the policy of indian regime about "Terror and talks cant go hand in hand" ..... lol

That policy makes no sense. They perpetrate terrorism themselves, and then say talks can't go on. I mean it's a good PR stunt for domestic consumption but it largely makes zero sense.