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Much like their tactics in cricket, instead of strengthening against RAW, it's trying to counteract with their own attempts at fracturing India which only sabotages itself
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The funny thing is this is the Pakistan mindset. What is 'khalistan'?!. Kartarpur was forced by sikh dispora and the same one will take back their sites they hold of importance, all in Pakistan.
There's a statue of ranjit, the great oppressor, rapist, in Lahore![]()
Much like their tactics in cricket, instead of strengthening against RAW, it's trying to counteract with their own attempts at fracturing India which only sabotages itself
Spoiler; Pakistan loses Punjab, ironically. India: gains rest of PunjabOK. I don't know ancient history of Khalistan. All I know is it is an Indian secessionist movement in present time.
As someone who wants to see peace in subcontinent region, I don't mind if India lose a bit of land. That's all.![]()
They obviously don't hate India as is the other way round. Pakistani actresses are literally twerking in Indian films and selling their soul to make it in Bollywood. Pakistan is a failed state
Huh?. I'm British PakistaniSubjective. Indian rhetoric.
The so called failed state is happier than your nation.
I thought you were Indian.Huh?. I'm British Pakistani
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Sikhs and Shakha have a long history, most align with Hindus against extremist ideologies. Pakistanis wouldn't know, as expected.
The point was to dispel your doubts of fake Sikh presence in the forum given how many of the Sikhs are openly and officially associated with RSS.Again this is not the point I was making. In the post you are replying to what I said was, that in my experience, there are very few Sikh posters on this site, it is mostly hindutvas speaking on their behalf. You appear to be another one, followed by a host of others posting in your slipstream.
The point was to dispel your doubts of fake Sikh presence in the forum given how many of the Sikhs are openly and officially associated with RSS.
Also, Hindutvas like me and my brothers here are better placed to speak for Sikhs or Sikhism than Pakistanis like yourself, won't you agree? Take it positively brother, we all learn.
Hindutvas like yourself are not in a position to speak on behalf of anyone except hindutvas, just to be clear. So obviously whatever you are posting is going to be severely saffron tinted. No problem with that, but just speak for yourselves, not for sikhs, buddhists, christians or whoever.
A muslim should never speak for a Sikh, Buddhist, Christians or whoever Cap. They are kaffirs per your Quran.
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But I'm not speaking for them. I am saying you shouldn't.
Hindutvas like yourself are not in a position to speak on behalf of anyone except hindutvas, just to be clear. So obviously whatever you are posting is going to be severely saffron tinted. No problem with that, but just speak for yourselves, not for sikhs, buddhists, christians or whoever.
The vocal minority are extremely loud. You just have to see those vermin on facebook and other social media spewing their venom.It’s true that we cannot speak on behalf of Sikhs. But there are references. Sikhs are part of governments, agencies, military, corporate sector, sports and are well represented in politics. Overwhelming majority of them are not separatists.
If 5 people claiming to be Baloch on this forum mention everything is fine would that mean more than what’s happening on ground in Balochistan. Similarly if 2-3 Sikhs come here and post in favour of a separate nation why would that mean more than the ground reality in Punjab and with Sikhs living across Bharat.
The vocal minority are extremely loud. You just have to see those vermin on facebook and other social media spewing their venom.
Not sure what Brahmins have ever done to them, but they constantly bash them. Every other post says that the Brahmin led forces are out to kill Sikhs. The language they use is extremely crude.
Somebody should break the news to these Khalistani Sikhs that Brahmins have no power. If there is a major danger to Sikhism in India, it is the Christian missionaries. Thousands of Sikhs are converting or have already converted to Christianity in Punjab. Just in Amritsar alone which is the holiest Sikh city has 5 lakh Christians. They did not come out of thin air. But they think Brahmins are out there to get Sikhs.
I find it strange that they were badmouthing the names of Ram, Kishan, Hari, Kali etc. They conveniently forget that majority of the Sikh names have the above mentioned names in them.![]()
The vocal minority are extremely loud. You just have to see those vermin on facebook and other social media spewing their venom.
Not sure what Brahmins have ever done to them, but they constantly bash them. Every other post says that the Brahmin led forces are out to kill Sikhs. The language they use is extremely crude.
Somebody should break the news to these Khalistani Sikhs that Brahmins have no power. If there is a major danger to Sikhism in India, it is the Christian missionaries. Thousands of Sikhs are converting or have already converted to Christianity in Punjab. Just in Amritsar alone which is the holiest Sikh city has 5 lakh Christians. They did not come out of thin air. But they think Brahmins are out there to get Sikhs.
I find it strange that they were badmouthing the names of Ram, Kishan, Hari, Kali etc. They conveniently forget that majority of the Sikh names have the above mentioned names in them.![]()
If islam is a cult sikhism is a deranged cult based on plagiarised texts. You are a sikh as per previous comments non?;Why should Indians talk about Sikhs and Buddhism when both religions have strong spiritual bond to India.
I can understand Islam, that was a war cult that didn't originate in the region but not the other 2 ..
Why should Indians talk about Sikhs and Buddhism when both religions have strong spiritual bond to India.
I can understand Islam, that was a war cult that didn't originate in the region but not the other 2 ..
The thing not being comprehended is that Indian sikhs are indeed proud Indians. It's the diaspora looking to reclaim Pakistan a la IsraelIt’s true that we cannot speak on behalf of Sikhs. But there are references. Sikhs are part of governments, agencies, military, corporate sector, sports and are well represented in politics. Overwhelming majority of them are not separatists.
If 5 people claiming to be Baloch on this forum mention everything is fine would that mean more than what’s happening on ground in Balochistan. Similarly if 2-3 Sikhs come here and post in favour of a separate nation why would that mean more than the ground reality in Punjab and with Sikhs living across Bharat.
Khalistani is considered no less than a slur word in Punjab btw. You call any random Sikh on the road a Khalistani and you will know what im talking about. Even if he’s one, he will go on the defensive immediately. No decent Sikh in Bharat likes to be recognised a Khalistani.
Now tell me if a Baloch ever gets offended in being called a Baloch in Pakistan
it’s not the same
Its hard to tell on InterWeb if the Sikhs spewing venom against Hindus are from Indian Punjab or the Canadian deluded ones.Khalistani is considered no less than a slur word in Punjab btw. You call any random Sikh on the road a Khalistani and you will know what im talking about. Even if he’s one, he will go on the defensive immediately. No decent Sikh in Bharat likes to be recognised a Khalistani.
Now tell me if a Baloch ever gets offended in being called a Baloch in Pakistan
it’s not the same
The thing not being comprehended is that Indian sikhs are indeed proud Indians. It's the diaspora looking to reclaim Pakistan a la Israel
Well the weird thing is Pakistani Punjabis have a weird symbiosis with sikhs not necessarily reciprocated. Just like ranjit, sikh musicians are poaching Pakistani actresses as a form of conquest.It’s not even that.
People are pragmatic now.
Being proud of the country or not doesn’t mean a lot. I have had times when I wasn’t proud of my country. So what? Demand a separate nation? lol
I get it Sikhs are a proud community and in a world where religions are dominating and taking over countries in their name it’s natural for them to feel they also need one in the name of Sikhism/Khalsa which is why we have this bit of noise.
Bit ground reality is that hindus and Sikhs share an excellent relationship. It’s not like the case with Muslims where there is absolutely no relationship. Hindus consider Sikhs as part of their culture and there’s no attempt to convert them or to install Hindu idols in gurudwaras. Sikhism has enjoyed its complete freedom in Bharat.
Its hard to tell on InterWeb if the Sikhs spewing venom against Hindus are from Indian Punjab or the Canadian deluded ones.
Since you are a Punjabi, I will take your word with more weight. Good to know Indian Sikhs do not harbor hatred towards Hindus.
The Khalistanis you see in news doing referendums abroad, they even look different than most of my friends and when they open their mouths they generally expose how much being away from the motherland has changed them. I think they also need a move on, they are consumed by propaganda and hatred and at this point they’re just wasting their time frankly. They will realize and in coming years gradually this thing will down too as young generations emerge with different priorities. Sikhs have a major major threat to their culture from western culture actually.
Come on bro. You know this is true about anyone in India, whatever their faith. This is why your proud claims to refer to the Motherland as Bharat instead of India are often laughed out of the forum by your own Indian based brethren so deep is their brainwashing.![]()
Captain locus standi doesn't understand the first line of our Constitution. Limited by the idea of only one solution to all problems of life, some lack the capacity to understand how diversity works.I have no problem with the name India. I have the feels for that name. Bharat resonates with me at a deeper level. I never asked anyone to follow me.
Captain locus standi doesn't understand the first line of our Constitution. Limited by the idea of only one solution to all problems of life, some lack the capacity to understand how diversity works.
Article 1: Name and Territory of the Union - Constitution of India
Article 1 declares that ‘India, that is Bharat’ is a ‘Union of States’, and goes on to define India’s territory.www.constitutionofindia.net
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Ab kaptaan is more expert authority than our own Constitution, that's a different matter.In every Indian language India is called Bharat. May be our Pak friends do not know that.
Only in Urdu, India is called Hindustan. Which basically is land of Hindus. They clearly distinguish themselves and Hindus. But they want India to be secular.
In every Indian language India is called Bharat. May be our Pak friends do not know that.
Only in Urdu, India is called Hindustan. Which basically is land of Hindus. They clearly distinguish themselves and Hindus. But they want India to be secular.
Not really sure your first sentence makes sense there, maybe you meant shouldn't rather than should?
In any case anyone can speak about Sikhs...but you don't represent them any more than I do. You are speaking as a hindu from a hindutva viewpoint, and that is how any information presented here has to be seen.
You know full well Hindustan is the ancient terminology used for India. That's deliberately lying for no reason whatsoever. Some other moron mentioned River Indus regards Pakistan?!In every Indian language India is called Bharat. May be our Pak friends do not know that.
Only in Urdu, India is called Hindustan. Which basically is land of Hindus. They clearly distinguish themselves and Hindus. But they want India to be secular.
Hindustan
Hindūstān was a historical region, polity, and a name for India, historically used simultaneously for northern Indian subcontinent and the entire subcontinent, used in the modern day to refer to the Republic of India by some but not officially. Being the Iranic cognate of the Indic word Sindhu,
It's ok Cap.
You are butt hurt like always.
And No to you, Hindus will give their thoughts regarding the Sikh matter.
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I think there is only one person who is butt hurt here and it shows when they end up losing their cool and resorting to flaming posters instead of addressing the points made.
Their namecallings are funny. A kindergarten student has more self-control than some of these guys.
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If these guys were in a kindergarten they would be looking for smaller kids and then ganging up in numbers on him just to be sure.![]()
I think there is only one person who is butt hurt here and it shows when they end up losing their cool and resorting to flaming posters instead of addressing the points made.
LOL. True.
They never have the courage to go one-on-one. Always have to gang up. One disadvantage of being vegetarians I guess.![]()
However, in 1947 after the partition of Punjab between Pakistan and India, many Jewish families fled again to India and migrated to Mumbai and the last few remaining Jews left Rawalpindi in the late 60s. Many of the Mashhadi Jewish families who fled from Punjab in Pakistan later also migrated to Israel via Mumbai in India. Worldwide there are about 20,000 Mashhadis, of which about 10,000 live in Israel. Of the Mashhadis in the United States, many of them live in Great Neck, New York.
Punjab has always been a land of migrants with cities such as Lahore being very cosmopolitan and being the gateway between Central Asia, Middle East and the Indian subcontinent. Lahore had many diverse communities of merchants such as Europeans, Persians, Armenians, Jews and other peoples of Central Asia, living and trading in Lahore. Within this familiar world the Jewish community found a safe haven to settle under the protection of the Sikh Empire.
The Jewish people and the Sikhs have a kindred experience of facing extreme persecution and pogroms in their history. Both the Jewish and Sikh faiths have about similar number of adherents in the world as well. There are many parallels between the Jews and Sikhs
If these guys were in a kindergarten they would be looking for smaller kids and then ganging up in numbers on him just to be sure.![]()
Such a Pakistani thing to say
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He is a Britstani, not quite the sharpest tool in the shed.
The sikh diaspora is the one behind the statue in Lahore and pushing for this. They'll achieve it. Ultimately, Pakistan contains very little of the islamic heritage such as Bareilly or Deoband. Just left with heretics architecture that would ultimately lead to the creation of the Khatri Jatts CoalitionView attachment 152768
I got this screenshot from an Indo-Canadian YouTuber I follow. The above is supposed to be from the Conservative Party.
India and Canada will not have peace again. At least anytime soon. No one can stop the influx of Punjabis into Canada. Their entire political spectrum is taken over by these people. It does not matter if Liberals win or conservatives win. These politicians will not anger their political base who voted them to power.
Most are dual nationals with Israeldiaspora noun
/daɪˈæspərə/
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[singular] (formal)
the diaspora the movement of the Jewish people away from their own country to live and work in other countries; Jewish people living and working in other countries
It’s already real in Brampton, Canada is land of the Sikhs.Just like how indians are vouching that Jews should get their own land likewise Sikh's should get their own land too
Make Khalistan real
Just like how indians are vouching that Jews should get their own land likewise Sikh's should get their own land too
Make Khalistan real
Just a slip of tongue brother. I know Capt. Bhai would never. I was joking with him as a brother.
It’s already real in Brampton, Canada is land of the Sikhs.
Yes we are in full support.
That is why we keep pushing for a Khalistan in Canada.
Make Khalistan real
It’s pretty obvious Israel has destabilised middle east, not sure what u r talking aboutGood job guys proud of you
Let's make it real now in India now where the sikhs actually want it. When will Punjab be renamed to Khalistan?
No? Guess so but then you vouch for the Jews and want them to have their own land when it's actually nothing to do with you
Good job guys proud of you
Let's make it real now in India now where the sikhs actually want it. When will Punjab be renamed to Khalistan?
No? Guess so but then you vouch for the Jews and want them to have their own land when it's actually nothing to do with you
Good job guys proud of you
Let's make it real now in India now where the sikhs actually want it. When will Punjab be renamed to Khalistan?
No? Guess so but then you vouch for the Jews and want them to have their own land when it's actually nothing to do with you
But brother Sikhs I know also want the Pakistani Punjab as well as they have more deep rooted connection to the land due to their Gurus.
Shall we include Pakistani Punjab as well ? No, guess so but vouch for the Palestinian Arabs though, when a convert like you don't have any stake in the matter, jews and arabs are ppl of the book but you are not![]()
It's funny Palestanians have mostly supported India on the Kashmir issue. And yet these Pakistanis mostly shed crocodile tears for them as if those Palestinians consider them their long lost brothers.
More and more everyday you realise how far away from reality a lot of Pakistanis are.
It is actually quite sad....
Can you believe in today's age they believe in Ghazwa E Hind, and that Israel will cease to exist despite them having nukes? That itself speaks volumes how messed up in the head they are.
Well madrassa schooling bearing fruits...
But Brother, it's not Muslims who want to expel Palestinians from Israel it's actually Hindus who tend to support that agenda. So the comparison you're making with Punjabis wanting Pakistani Punjab doesn’t really fit.But brother Sikhs I know also want the Pakistani Punjab as well as they have more deep rooted connection to the land due to their Gurus.
Shall we include Pakistani Punjab as well ? No, guess so but vouch for the Palestinian Arabs though, when a convert like you don't have any stake in the matter, jews and arabs are ppl of the book but you are not![]()
When it started in palestine there weren't many Jews in Palestine either just like there arnt any in India but if overseas Sikh start moving to Punjab and want a khalistan would you support the khalistan move just like how you are vouching for Israeli's both scenarios are the sameWho told you? Your beloved leader enjoying his time in jail? We don't see Sikhs in India rooting for Khalistan. It's Sikhs in Canada mostly who do it.
So Muslims have rights over their holy lands, but Sikhs do not??But Brother, it's not Muslims who want to expel Palestinians from Israel it's actually Hindus who tend to support that agenda. So the comparison you're making with Punjabis wanting Pakistani Punjab doesn’t really fit.
what fits is Jews want Palestine just like Sikhs want Khalistan in India. If you support one of these causes but not the other, even though the reasoning is the same, then that’s a double standard and it comes across as hypocritical.
Palestine isn't a muslim holy land where you get that story from? It's Saudi Arabia that's muslim holy landSo Muslims have rights over their holy lands, but Sikhs do not??
If you are in Pakistani punjab, that lands is Punjabi.. Punjabiyat is Sikh heritage. Muslims of Pakistan have already shown their affinity for the foreign language Urdu. Urdu, your national language originated in Meerut. You are the foreign occupiers of the land of Gurus, where Gurmukhi is the script. Its quite funny when people who have rejected their own ancestry talk about roots.
This is a thread on Khalistan and Sikhs and you are the one talking about jews!!Palestine isn't a muslim holy land where you get that story from? It's Saudi Arabia that's muslim holy land
Not going read rest of your post because I know its going to be full of crap
And its your hate for Muslims reason you support the Jews
It's actually the other way around jews consider it as their holy land and want to kick out muslims
And its your hate for Muslims reason you support the Jews
When it started in palestine there weren't many Jews in Palestine either just like there arnt any in India but if overseas Sikh start moving to Punjab and want a khalistan would you support the khalistan move just like how you are vouching for Israeli's both scenarios are the same
The sweet spot of land ownership claims is always when the land falls under Muslim occupation.Brother Jews were there before Muhammad your prophet was even born.
It's not about how many are there, it's about who was there first.
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after being smacked in the face you remember its a Khalistan thread lolThis is a thread on Khalistan and Sikhs and you are the one talking about jews!!