Will serve Army after cricket: MS Dhoni

[kashmiri_lad]

Indian cricket captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni on Saturday said he would “definitely” want to serve the Army actively once he bids adieu to the game.

Dhoni, who was inducted as an honorary Lieutenant Colonel in the elite Parachute Regiment last year, is here to visit the forward area of the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu region and also visit the base camp of Siachen, the world's highest battlefield.

“Why I got here is because of cricket. I would like to serve actively in the Army only after cricket. I don't want my cricket to suffer because that is something I am good at. Once my cricket career is over, I would definitely like to serve in the Army,” Dhoni told journalists.

The World Cup winning captain will visit the Northern Command headquarters in Udhampur on Sunday before leaving for Srinagar on a tour of 15 Corps. From there, he will head for the 14 Corps area in Leh and also the Siachen base camp.

He will visit north Kashmir's Baramulla district on Sunday to witness the final of the first phase of Kashmir Premier League at the Shaukat Ali Stadium.

“I will try to go to the frontline. It is very exciting because I will get to see the challenges the officers face. Now I am getting to know the Army from close quarters. This is the first time I have come to a forward post,” he said.

Dhoni will also interact with the families of the Army officers here.

“Families [of the army officers] come here at this time of the year and I will get a chance to interact with them and I am sure the next few days would be exciting,” he said.

On the oft-repeated issue of India-Pakistan bilateral cricket ties, Dhoni said: “It is important to make a start because sports is something that breaks barriers. The two boards have to decide when they decide to play each other. I have to go out there and play. So we will wait and see.”

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article3483065.ece

 

[Animal]

So the 'helicopter shot' will have a whole new meaning for MSD soon.

 

[Runner Up]

But this is not Bollywood

 

[Amar786]

This is why i salute KAYANI he goes to see his commanders while indian army wants people like dhoni to boost moral of soliders.

 

[Shaddy]

Dhoni just dont get shot from across the border, Pakistanis also like you as a cricketer!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He will lead them to many away defeats

 

[LethalSami]

He will lead them to many away defeats

coz he'll be very defensive

 

[humzy]

why on earth would you want to be in the army lol

 

[Lachrymose]

Interesting...

 

[kashmiri_lad]

He will lead them to many away defeats

As of now, the score is 4-0 with Pakistan in Away Defeats...
So,the odds are in our favour..

 

[Amar786]

As of now, the score is 4-0 with Pakistan in Away Defeats...
So,the odds are in our favour..

Not convinced we won Kargil: Lt Gen Kishan Pal to NDTV

THE FACTS OF KARGIL CONFLICT

We have fought a great war in the mountains of kashmir, but unfortunately, our then coward prime minister betrayed the nation and we had to retreat, and then, india has used its full propaganda machine to try to come out of a victory after such a humilation at the hands of few hundred mujahideens.
Some facts are:
1.Total number of Mujahideen, at any stage did not exceed approx: 1000.
2. They captured one of the most difficult terrain and in intense cold enviornment.
3. They completely evaded the indian intelligence machine and the (made in india)satellites pictures.
4. It was a total surprise to indians when sheperds brought the news of invasion to indian military machine, which took some days to realize its importance.
5. Indian chief of staff did not even cancelled his foreign visit.
6. The first search party of 60 indian soldiers was completely annihilated and none of them returned.
7. The second search party of 259 indian soldiers was either annihalited or injured.
8. The first camberra reconisance mission ended up in a damaged camberra plane, which did land in srinagar and brought to indians the actual scale of invasion.
9. Two indian planes were downed including a mig 21 and mig 27.
10. An indian helicopter was downed.
11. Airforce totallly stopped all its operations and so did the military helicopters.
12. It took long time for the indian airforce to come back again, but only with mirage 2000 planes dropping bombs from high altitude…and also using laser guided bombs.
13. A barrage of artillery pounding continued for the next 6 weeks, and in the end, even bofor guns were employed, in order to score, as there did not seems to be any change in Mujahideen positions.
14. There was a huge loss to indian military . there was a shortage of coffins. About 1700 indian soldiers died and more than the same number injured.
15. About 50 bofors bombs were used per mujahideen amounting to US$50000 per person, apart from the various other ammunition used extensively including artillery shells, rockets from ground launchers and air and infantry attacks.
16. After all this efforts for nearly 2 months, it took Clinton to come to india´s rescue, and pakistan had to retreat with 370 losses in life.


Pak Army captures seven posts and a village in Kargil Sector:

Not a single Pak Army post lost lost on Control Line:

Heavy losses inflicted to Indian Army:

Indian Army suffering badly in Kargil: 29 June 1999 WASHINGTON D.C.: A report in Washington says that India has suffered so badly in Kargil at the hands of Pakistani military forces

How did you win the war by begging america to come in and help?

http://zuhayer.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/the-kargil-war-1999-truth-reveiled/

There is many more information on this site it would be very nice for you to read it.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Dhoni- no point going to a place where we all support Pakistan (Baramulla)

 

[kashmiri_lad]

Not convinced we won Kargil: Lt Gen Kishan Pal to NDTV

THE FACTS OF KARGIL CONFLICT

Let me not go into the Mujahideen/Pak Army debate...
The whole world including Pakistanis know, who was fighting the war...

On the Kishen Pal-NDTV...atleast post the NDTV source for that.....

Now, about the coward Indian Prime Minister of that time....I mean we know, who went running like a rat to Washinton and that too to Clinton.....

About all that I am claiming, I can post videos from mainstream Pakistani Media about the admittance of defeat of the War of Kargil by the innocent Mujahideen who were just venting their frustration from the illegal occupation of the Islamic Emirate of Kashmir( PakObserver.net)...

 

[kashmiri_lad]

Dhoni- no point going to a place where we all support Pakistan (Baramulla)

Yes, he will listen to a Half Kashmiri...sitting merrily somewhere in UK...
And about Kashmir...its not only Baramulla...Shopian...AnantNag....
Most of Jammu and Kashmir is wholeheartedly INDIAN......

(BORN IN SRINAGAR--HABBAKADAL, Shaliar)

 

[Rana]

I think he has his eyes set on being president one day for his country

 

[akheR]

About all that I am claiming, I can post videos from mainstream Pakistani Media about the admittance of defeat of the War of Kargil by the innocent Mujahideen who were just venting their frustration from the illegal occupation of the Islamic Emirate of Kashmir( PakObserver.net)...

Excuse us if some Indian trolls don't have a social life exciting enough to monitor Pak. media.
If I do the same by following every video release by CNN-IBN and post them on Youtube I can come up too with Indian journalists "admitting" this or "admitting" that - you know, Arundhati Roy, to begin with, Pankaj Mishra & company.

 

[Maximas]

He is lying. Why on earth, he would wanna go to militery after sporting! He is already rich enough to guide his family for future. And country not in any militery state of emergence as well. Doesnt he have any other skill/qualification rather than brainless physical job with life in risk?!
Fact is Dhoni is a coward quitter who dont wanna lead & play Test anymore, not eligible/fit to be in force.

 

[kashmiri_lad]

Excuse us if some Indian trolls don't have a social life exciting enough to monitor Pak. media.
If I do the same by following every video release by CNN-IBN and post them on Youtube I can come up too with Indian journalists "admitting" this or "admitting" that - you know, Arundhati Roy, to begin with, Pankaj Mishra & company.

Troll...Hmm....
Still...I was talking about mainstream Media persons...Respected in the Pakistani Fraternity...and awarded with Hilal e ---something...
Coming to the main point, do you believe that Pakistan WON the Kargil War and Indian Prime Minister at that asked for US intervention.....

 

[Amar786]

Troll...Hmm....
Still...I was talking about mainstream Media persons...Respected in the Pakistani Fraternity...and awarded with Hilal e ---something...
Coming to the main point, do you believe that Pakistan WON the Kargil War and Indian Prime Minister at that asked for US intervention.....

Don't forget israel they gave india weapons to try and defeat pakistan otherwise we would have beat india by a long distance it was the pressure israel put on washington to put on pak army to stop fighting.

During India’s 1999 Kargil war with Pakistan, Israel rushed military support to India, cementing the nascent defense relationship. Israel sent its laser guided missiles to India during the Indo-Pak Kargil war of 1999, making it possible for the Indian Mirages to destroy Pakistani bunkers in the mountains. Jane’s Defense Weekly, which gave details on the supplies. Israel, the scoundrel nation & illegal child of America supplied missiles, portable radars & other weapons during Kargil War in 1999 as confirmed by Shri Rahul Bedi on BBC and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles - 8 in 1999 for surveillance purposes (Army) – 20 in 2000 during the Kargil war UAVs for high altitude surveillance, laser – guided systems and many other items were supplied within 24 hours. After September 11 attack on the World Trade Centre, and attack on Indian Parliament Israel has been selling defense supplies to India, just from 2002 to 2008 India buy more than $25 billion dollars worth weapon and transfer of technology from Israel.

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=38221

 

[DHONI183]

Most disappointing moment in my life as MS Dhoni´s fan.

Again, this is my opinion only and I hope not to be dragged into a debate.

 

[Asim2Good]

doesn't Indian Army have age limit to join army?
if they do have then Dhoni is just trolling

 

[insaan]

People are reading too much into his comment.

What did anyone expect him to say? That he would not like to serve in the Army? While surrounded by soldiers he has come to visit? Dhoni is a diplomatic guy, and he was saying what the audience would like to hear. One can always discard some honesty to make others happy, especially when it comes to soldiers.

He has done a lot for himself while also bringing glory to the country. He doesn't need to prove his loyalty by serving in the Army. Also, I don't think the Army can afford a celebrity in its ranks.

Not directed at Dhoni, but in general, Patriotism is used to sell an image, agenda or even a product. One should not read too much into it.

 

[DHONI183]

People are reading too much into his comment.

What did anyone expect him to say? That he would not like to serve in the Army? While surrounded by soldiers he has come to visit? Dhoni is a diplomatic guy, and he was saying what the audience would like to hear. One can always discard some honesty to make others happy, especially when it comes to soldiers.

He has done a lot for himself while also bringing glory to the country. He doesn't need to prove his loyalty by serving in the Army. Also, I don't think the Army can afford a celebrity in its ranks.

Not directed at Dhoni, but in general, Patriotism is used to sell an image, agenda or even a product. One should not read too much into it.

Quote of the day at least!

 

[Pure Evil]

People are reading too much into his comment.

What did anyone expect him to say? That he would not like to serve in the Army? While surrounded by soldiers he has come to visit? Dhoni is a diplomatic guy, and he was saying what the audience would like to hear. One can always discard some honesty to make others happy, especially when it comes to soldiers.

He has done a lot for himself while also bringing glory to the country. He doesn't need to prove his loyalty by serving in the Army. Also, I don't think the Army can afford a celebrity in its ranks.

Not directed at Dhoni, but in general, Patriotism is used to sell an image, agenda or even a product. One should not read too much into it.

Common sense aint no fun

 

[PakPrince]

People are reading too much into his comment.

What did anyone expect him to say? That he would not like to serve in the Army? While surrounded by soldiers he has come to visit? Dhoni is a diplomatic guy, and he was saying what the audience would like to hear. One can always discard some honesty to make others happy, especially when it comes to soldiers.

He has done a lot for himself while also bringing glory to the country. He doesn't need to prove his loyalty by serving in the Army. Also, I don't think the Army can afford a celebrity in its ranks.

Not directed at Dhoni, but in general, Patriotism is used to sell an image, agenda or even a product. One should not read too much into it.

common sense takes out the masala and fun from the thread :/

 

[insaan]

^ Will try to join in the fun the next time.

 

[Myrmidon]

he is a good man

strong minded

cricket and the world needs more people like him

 

[AutoCrat]

People are reading too much into his comment.

What did anyone expect him to say? That he would not like to serve in the Army? While surrounded by soldiers he has come to visit? Dhoni is a diplomatic guy, and he was saying what the audience would like to hear. One can always discard some honesty to make others happy, especially when it comes to soldiers.

He has done a lot for himself while also bringing glory to the country. He doesn't need to prove his loyalty by serving in the Army. Also, I don't think the Army can afford a celebrity in its ranks.

Not directed at Dhoni, but in general, Patriotism is used to sell an image, agenda or even a product. One should not read too much into it.

Thank you for spoiling the movie...

 

[justarslan]

Would not Dhoni be too old to enlist in army? In US, age limit to enlist in Army is 35. It is even lower to enlist in Navy, Air Force, Marine or Coast Guard.

 

[Smiling Creed]

Would not Dhoni be too old to enlist in army? In US, age limit to enlist in Army is 35. It is even lower to enlist in Navy, Air Force, Marine or Coast Guard.

He is already honorary Lt. Col in Army's parachute regiment.

 

[velu]

He will lead them to many away defeats

but in home pakistan plays only domestic games

 

[Pure Evil]

but in home pakistan plays only domestic games

Lol!! Awesome troll you are

 

[MultanKaSultan]

MS Dhoni walked like an army man to receive Padma Bhushan

Former India cricket team captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni received the country's third highest civilian award, Padma Bhushan, from President Ram Nath Kovind at the Rashtrapati Bhavan on Monday.

Dhoni, who came to the ceremony in his Lieutenant Colonel uniform, walked like an army personnel when his name was called upon to receive the award. The Indian Territorial Army had conferred the honorary rank of Lieutenant Colonel to Dhoni on November 1, 2011, months after India won their second World Cup under his leadership.

Incidentally, Dhoni is receiving the prestigious award exactly seven years since lifting the ICC Cricket World Cup as India skipper in Mumbai on April 2, 2011. On this day seven years ago, India ended a 28-year World Cup drought by winning their second title in front of a manic home crowd at the Wankhede Stadium.

The 37-year-old Dhoni is the second Indian cricketer after Kapil Dev to receive this honour.
Dhoni has been the recipient of many awards, including the ICC ODI Player of the Year award in 2008 and 2009 (the first player to win the award twice), the Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna award in 2007 and the Padma Shri, India's fourth highest civilian honour in 2009.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...eceive-padma-bhushan/articleshow/63583367.cms

 

[shaz619]

Well deserved has been long due

 

[MultanKaSultan]

Well deserved has been long due

Ya long due
Deserve more than that

 

[shaz619]

Ya long due
Deserve more than that

How about a cuddle ?

 

[MultanKaSultan]

 

[MultanKaSultan]

 

[Syed1]

Greatest Indian cricketer ever.

 

[MultanKaSultan]

Greatest Indian cricketer ever.

Greatest Indian Captain ever

 

[CanadianG00se]

Greatest Indian cricketer ever.

Greatest Captain yes,
Cricketer- Nope, not even top 3


Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
are my top 3 Indian cricketers ever

 

[MultanKaSultan]

Greatest Captain yes,
Cricketer- Nope, not even top 3


Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
are my top 3 Indian cricketers ever

How about top 5

 

[Syed1]

Greatest Captain yes,
Cricketer- Nope, not even top 3


Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
are my top 3 Indian cricketers ever

Let me remind you that India won T20 WC, ODI WC, CT, Test mace and whole bunch of other series under Dhoni. That is a stuff of legends.

 

[rhony]

Greatest Captain yes,
Cricketer- Nope, not even top 3


Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
are my top 3 Indian cricketers ever

Transformed Indian team into a beast Chasing team. Doesn't care about records and sacrificed a top order spot to finish games. Hands down the best ever!!!

 

[jagatk]

Let me remind you that India won T20 WC, ODI WC, CT, Test mace and whole bunch of other series under Dhoni. That is a stuff of legends.

He lead the teams he wasn't the reason we won any of those tournaments, except the t-20 win his captaincy was never the decisive factor in those wins, his individual performances in most of the tournament wins were non existent. Not diminishing what he won but he definitely will never be in top 3 or even top 5 cricketers of india.

 

[jagatk]

Transformed Indian team into a beast Chasing team. Doesn't care about records and sacrificed a top order spot to finish games. Hands down the best ever!!!

He was lucky to get the test team handed to him, the fab 4, gambhir-sehwag, zaheer all were most important players of his team when we won the mace none are his players. He didn't change anything, he was a great finisher but given the fact that there was no spot for him in the middle order for most of his career he didn't sacrifice anything. Also one of the reasons why he has a phenomenal average is because he bats lower down the order and has a lot of no's, so his stats are because of where he bats.

 

[rhony]

He lead the teams he wasn't the reason we won any of those tournaments, except the t-20 win his captaincy was never the decisive factor in those wins, his individual performances in most of the tournament wins were non existent. Not diminishing what he won but he definitely will never be in top 3 or even top 5 cricketers of india.

Thankless people!!! Forgot his MOM innings in WC final when it mattered the most. None of the other Indian greats can clain that

 

[Solid Snake]

Let me remind you that India won T20 WC, ODI WC, CT, Test mace and whole bunch of other series under Dhoni. That is a stuff of legends.

I am borderline amazed at how after pretty much achieving everything worth achieving in international cricket during his tenure as captain, Dhoni isn't idolised more than he is.

I actually remember Indian colleagues from the office a few years back who were quite anti-dhoni !

Reminds me of that batman quote, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

 

[Syed1]

I am borderline amazed at how after pretty much achieving everything worth achieving in international cricket during his tenure as captain, Dhoni isn't idolised more than he is.

I actually remember Indian colleagues from the office a few years back who were quite anti-dhoni !

Reminds me of that batman quote, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

Exactly.... they are even putting kal ka bacha Kohli ahead of him, who is yet to win an international tournament for India

 

[jagatk]

Thankless people!!! Forgot his MOM innings in WC final when it mattered the most. None of the other Indian greats can clain that

As i said not diminishing his achievements but people have weird memories of the game. He played a great innings but he shouldn't have been the MoM, it was gambhir who played the most important part, it wasn't Dhoni who came in at 0-1 and then had to steady the innings with a young virat at 31-2 it was Gambhir, When gambhir got out he had all but sealed the game and please don't forget that Dhoni came in with knowledge that even if he got out yuvraj the Best player of the WC was yet to come.

 

[jagatk]

I am borderline amazed at how after pretty much achieving everything worth achieving in international cricket during his tenure as captain, Dhoni isn't idolised more than he is.

I actually remember Indian colleagues from the office a few years back who were quite anti-dhoni !

Reminds me of that batman quote, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

He was basically Ponting for the Indian team, he was a one of the best captains we have had but much of it was due the world class team he had at his disposal, once the team declined we saw what happened.

 

[rhony]

As i said not diminishing his achievements but people have weird memories of the game. He played a great innings but he shouldn't have been the MoM, it was gambhir who played the most important part, it wasn't Dhoni who came in at 0-1 and then had to steady the innings with a young virat at 31-2 it was Gambhir, When gambhir got out he had all but sealed the game and please don't forget that Dhoni came in with knowledge that even if he got out yuvraj the Best player of the WC was yet to come.

LOL. Crazy how u put him down. Gambhir made a good contribution too but Dhoni's was critical. Yuvi being MOS doesnt mean he would score a 90 too. ANyway, no point arguing here

 

[Solid Snake]

Lol amusing thread if nothing else.

My take on all of this is sport fans tend to be a fickle bunch! Dhoni's star obviously has been on the wane for some time and things like a couple of disastrous away tours seem to have tarnished his legacy. It was around this time my Indian friends were calling for his head.

All that is fair enough, you need to take the good with the bad and no one is saying that his track record is spotless. But with the passage of time I'd have thought people would be a bit more forgiving and see how his achievements imo greatly outweigh his low points.

 

[Hasan123]

Dhoni is a legend. Dhoni,Kohli,and Ganguly are my favourite Indian players of all time.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Transformed Indian team into a beast Chasing team. Doesn't care about records and sacrificed a top order spot to finish games. Hands down the best ever!!!

Again you’re proving my original point

Greatest Captain Yes
Player- No

 

[CanadianG00se]

Exactly.... they are even putting kal ka bacha Kohli ahead of him, who is yet to win an international tournament for India

Kohli in just half his career is on the verge of becoming ATG and by the time he retires, he will be GOAT.

Dhoni no matter how big of his fan I am, he will never be anywhere closed to

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
Kapil

Dhoni is probably 5th greatest player from India. Some may rate Dravid and Kumble ahead of him.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I am borderline amazed at how after pretty much achieving everything worth achieving in international cricket during his tenure as captain, Dhoni isn't idolised more than he is.

I actually remember Indian colleagues from the office a few years back who were quite anti-dhoni !

Reminds me of that batman quote, you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

Until 2014 i was biggest Dhoni Fan. But his continous failure and refusal to retire have turned many fans against him. Dhoni is damaging his own legacy..

 

[CricFan2012]

One of the greatest leaders of all time

 

[CanadianG00se]

Let me remind you that India won T20 WC, ODI WC, CT, Test mace and whole bunch of other series under Dhoni. That is a stuff of legends.

Which is why i said he is GREATEST INDIAN CAPTAIN EVER. All those glories were not achieved by Dhoni alone, but was a team effort. If you’re gonna credit him for all those glories then he should also be responsible for all those overseas defeat. Who can forget that 8-0 horrible record.

Dhoni was average player in test, ATG in ODIs, and great in T20Is. No matter how you look at it, no sane cricket fans Indian or not will rate Dhoni ahead of Tendulkar, Gavaskar, Kohli, Kapil. Heck Dravid could also rank higher than Dhoni.

 

[skhanmac]

He was no doubt a great captain but keep in mind that any captain is only as good as the players in the team. I doubt he would've achieved anything with players like Mongia, Ramesh, Mogia, Joshi, Robin etc.

He was privileged to play alongside Ghambir, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Yuvi in his prime, Kohli, Raina, Zaheer etc. With that kind of a team, it was only a matter of time that he would life the WC and other trophies.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

Just an admirable player and leader all round. He and Ganguly before him made the Indian team infinitely more likeable to the average Pakistan with the way they carried themselves.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Isn't Dhoni too old to serve in the army?.

 

[Deewana]

Greatest Indian cricketer ever.

Is a Kohli a Pakistani?

 

[Abdul]

Ahhhhh. This is what you call bravery. He is not a coward.

 

[Abdul]

And he's got the fitness for serving. Pretty sure he'll ace.

 

[msb314]

View attachment 80569

Is that Salman Butt standing next to him lol?

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WATCH?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WATCH</a> Billiards player Pankaj Advani and Cricketer MS Dhoni conferred with Padma Bhushan by President Ram Nath Kovind at Rashtrapati Bhawan in Delhi <a href="https://t.co/XgPTHWsxBl">pic.twitter.com/XgPTHWsxBl</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/980795356161150976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Chrish]

Politics is a very lucrative career

 

[moghul]

Shows deep love for his country.

 

[yasir]

Let me remind you that India won T20 WC, ODI WC, CT, Test mace and whole bunch of other series under Dhoni. That is a stuff of legends.

The way Dhoni lost 8-0 in AUS and ENG, it was shameful. He was mostly a clueless Captain in test, which is true test of Captaincy. Best Indian Captain I have seen was Ganguly, who changed Indian Cricket more than SRT, now Kohli is one who don’t shy away from challenge. I found Dhoni to run away from tough challenges...

The reason Imran Khan get so much praise atleast in my books, because he never lost a test series to WI, won first time in India and ENG, not 2/3 test series but a full test series, that takes a lot out of you and test your character a whole lot more. LOI is nothing in Front of full test series, just look at what happens in SA

 

[The_Odd_One]

Kohli in just half his career is on the verge of becoming ATG and by the time he retires, he will be GOAT.

Dhoni no matter how big of his fan I am, he will never be anywhere closed to

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Kohli
Kapil

Dhoni is probably 5th greatest player from India. Some may rate Dravid and Kumble ahead of him.

Tendulkar has a valid shot at being a bigger cricketer than Dhoni but seriously Kohli who is yet to win an overseas test series or a multi team tournament.

Gavaskar was your finest test batsman but he was mediocre in ODIs. Overall, he can't match Dhoni, the captain, keeper, and batsman combo.

Kapil is not even a tier 1 ATG in any format.

 

[The_Odd_One]

The way Dhoni lost 8-0 in AUS and ENG, it was shameful. He was mostly a clueless Captain in test, which is true test of Captaincy. Best Indian Captain I have seen was Ganguly, who changed Indian Cricket more than SRT, now Kohli is one who don’t shy away from challenge. I found Dhoni to run away from tough challenges...

The reason Imran Khan get so much praise atleast in my books, because he never lost a test series to WI, won first time in India and ENG, not 2/3 test series but a full test series, that takes a lot out of you and test your character a whole lot more. LOI is nothing in Front of full test series, just look at what happens in SA

A captain is as good as his team. With elderly players, no captain could have done better.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Though he did lead the strongest Indian team in history, his resume is still very impressive and he achieved more than anyone else.

 

[jagatk]

LOL. Crazy how u put him down. Gambhir made a good contribution too but Dhoni's was critical. Yuvi being MOS doesnt mean he would score a 90 too. ANyway, no point arguing here

Please explain to me how was the guy who came in at 113-3 is more critical to the game than the guy who came in at 0-1 and stabalized the innings with a youngster at 31-2. Yuvi being MoS is important because Dhoni came in his position knowing if things went pear shaped there was still a batsman in the shed who could still win it for us as he had done before in the World Cup.

 

[jagatk]

A captain is as good as his team. With elderly players, no captain could have done better.

Why then is he considered the greatest player then? He was a atg finisher but will not make it to most unbiased fan's top 5 indian cricketers.

 

[rhony]

Please explain to me how was the guy who came in at 113-3 is more critical to the game than the guy who came in at 0-1 and stabalized the innings with a youngster at 31-2. Yuvi being MoS is important because Dhoni came in his position knowing if things went pear shaped there was still a batsman in the shed who could still win it for us as he had done before in the World Cup.

You've been listening to Yuvraj's dad I guess. Like I said, no more arguing

 

[Adijazz1706]

Please explain to me how was the guy who came in at 113-3 is more critical to the game than the guy who came in at 0-1 and stabalized the innings with a youngster at 31-2. Yuvi being MoS is important because Dhoni came in his position knowing if things went pear shaped there was still a batsman in the shed who could still win it for us as he had done before in the World Cup.

[MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION] rhymes with Dhoni so...

 

[rhony]

[MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION] rhymes with Dhoni so...

LOL. Apparently Dhoni played well because he had Yuvi in the kitty. By the same logic, Gambhir played well because he had both Dhoni and Yuvi in the kitty. Cant stop laughing here

 

[yasir]

A captain is as good as his team. With elderly players, no captain could have done better.

Then why we are talking about Captaincy??

Also, these so called great Captains have strong control over selection as well. Imran kicked out his own cushion and a senior player as a Captain, at other time he took risk with Wasim with pretty much zero experience, even a selector resign. Not to mention sent Waqar home from WC... Dhoni could not do anything about the old passanger batsmen, whose fault is that??

 

[CanadianG00se]

Tendulkar has a valid shot at being a bigger cricketer than Dhoni but seriously Kohli who is yet to win an overseas test series or a multi team tournament.

Gavaskar was your finest test batsman but he was mediocre in ODIs. Overall, he can't match Dhoni, the captain, keeper, and batsman combo.

Kapil is not even a tier 1 ATG in any format.

What about DHONI being mediocre in TEST? Gavaskar played ODIs when it was still fairly new.

Kohli was part of 2011 WC and 2013 WC winning squad. He is beast in all 3 forms of games and will go down better than Tendulkar. Dhoni is nowhere near Kohli, let alone Tendulkar. Not a single Indian fan will put Dhoni above Tendulkar.


Pakistan fans could say what they wish, it hardly matters