Will Sri Lanka create history by becoming the second Asian team to win a Test series in Australia?

[Pakhs]

A few of your countrymen have claimed that Pakistan's legendary 12-0 test record in Australia since 1996 is competitive.

Now tell me who is joking?

Who is saying that? We have been embarrassing in Australia for a long time. And I have mentioned many times in these threads recently India have actually done well in Australia without winning. They have won this time against weakened Australia but even bigger achievement was that 2004 series.

Now come back to point England have a genuine claim to be the best side going around currently as they have beaten India fair and square.

 

[WengerOut]

Who is saying that? We have been embarrassing in Australia for a long time. And I have mentioned many times in these threads recently India have actually done well in Australia without winning. They have won this time against weakened Australia but even bigger achievement was that 2004 series.

Now come back to point England have a genuine claim to be the best side going around currently as they have beaten India fair and square.

But they drew with Pak at home. India would not allow anyone to touch them at home.

 

[JattMaula]

Yes, please bookmark this post.

I have.

But what's the point anyway? You are not type to change your opinions.

 

[Pakhs]

But they drew with Pak at home. India would not allow anyone to touch them at home.

They are not as dominant at home as India as the home advantage is not as big. its dependent on factors out of their control i.e weather above. That's why it was even bigger achievement to beat India 4-1. But their over all performances all around the world is better than India's.

 

[big_gamer007]

If Sri Lanka play better cricket they will win.. Indians have shown Australians can be beaten at their homes by Asian sides.. Sri Lankan side can also win just have to play cricket at their best..

 

[Stalin]

I dont worry about my team as they are well below par at the moment and not playing at home. England have returned the favor to India anyway by someone like Sam Curran a debutant spanking the bowlers around. And they have done better overseas over all than India.

You're sounding desparate, but anyways..
Since 2015 wc, these are the "away" test stats of both India and England.
England played 26 away tests, won 7 , lost 14

India played 23 away tests , won 11 , lost 8

Now tell me , how England has done better overseas than India?

 

[Pakhs]

You're sounding desparate, but anyways..
Since 2015 wc, these are the "away" test stats of both India and England.
England played 26 away tests, won 7 , lost 14

India played 23 away tests , won 11 , lost 8

Now tell me , how England has done better overseas than India?

I dont count tests in Asia for India! As its the same continent. What I am saying is there for everyone to see but obviously you are too blinded by India's performance in Australia in which case fair enough.

 

[Pakhs]

If Sri Lanka play better cricket they will win.. Indians have shown Australians can be beaten at their homes by Asian sides.. Sri Lankan side can also win just have to play cricket at their best..

Both Pakistan and Srilanka will also win in Australia one day these records cant stay forever. India was also the first Asian team to win in WI and England.

 

[WengerOut]

I dont count tests in Asia for India! As its the same continent. What I am saying is there for everyone to see but obviously you are too blinded by India's performance in Australia in which case fair enough.

If you don't count tests in Asia for India, the victory of England in SA should be discounted. Their loss in Aus is accentuated. I mean who allows the Marsh brothers to score centuries

 

[RyanRyan10]

You're sounding desparate, but anyways..
Since 2015 wc, these are the "away" test stats of both India and England.
England played 26 away tests, won 7 , lost 14

India played 23 away tests , won 11 , lost 8

Now tell me , how England has done better overseas than India?

Eng even dropped test against likes of BD,WI
They have had just 1 good year

 

[Stalin]

I dont count tests in Asia for India! As its the same continent. What I am saying is there for everyone to see but obviously you are too blinded by India's performance in Australia in which case fair enough.

Alright,
India has 6 test wins outside Asia in the last 4 years. (SENA + Windies)

England has 5 test wins in Asia + Windies
(Considering that South Africa should not be considered as they are similar conditions to England, the reason why you've excluded Asia from India's wins )

Anything else? Did England play with 9 players at some point or did they ate less food or did Joe Root couldn't get sleep anywhere ?

 

[Pakhs]

Alright,
India has 6 test wins outside Asia in the last 4 years. (SENA + Windies)

England has 5 test wins in Asia + Windies
(Considering that South Africa should not be considered as they are similar conditions to England, the reason why you've excluded Asia from India's wins )

Anything else? Did England play with 9 players at some point or did they ate less food or did Joe Root couldn't get sleep anywhere ?

SA is not similar conditions biggest proof of that is Pakistan Performance in SA compare to England. SA is bounce and cracks deviations in England its swing and Duke bowls.

 

[Mp812]

If SL do win, only BD and Pakistan will remain who never done it

 

[Stalin]

SA is not similar conditions biggest proof of that is Pakistan Performance in SA compare to England. SA is bounce and cracks deviations in England its swing and Duke bowls.

Sri Lanka is not similar conditions for India either .The biggest proof of that is
England performance in Sri Lanka compared to India.India is flat goodbatting wickets with quick turn and bounce later on, and in Sri Lanka it is slow and low spin of kookaburras.

Next?

 

[Pakhs]

Sri Lanka is not similar conditions for India either .The biggest proof of that is
England performance in Sri Lanka compared to India.India is flat goodbatting wickets with quick turn and bounce later on, and in Sri Lanka it is slow and low spin of kookaburras.

Next?

No its widely accepted that Asian conditions are all similar. Low bounce slow and raging turners. Dont just make up stuff to suit your arguments.

 

[Etherealistic]

Australia competed well with India even though the scoreline says 2-1 so its not easy for Sri Lanka to win the Test series. I disagree they will be the 2nd team to win the Test series on Australian soil.

 

[Stalin]

No its widely accepted that Asian conditions are all similar. Low bounce slow and raging turners. Dont just make up stuff to suit your arguments.

I'm not making up anything . It's you , who is making up excuses that too pathetic ones .

Just the fact that you've gone for one filtering after another to suit your arguments, but still got proven wrong continuously says a lot .

 

[Pakhs]

I'm not making up anything . It's you , who is making up excuses that too pathetic ones .

Just the fact that you've gone for one filtering after another to suit your arguments, but still got proven wrong continuously says a lot .

Yes you are, You are saying Srilanka and India are different conditions when they are not. In any case both are in Asia where England and SA are miles apart.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Srilankans are usually having better tactical awareness. Also they are not fazed by pressure. But will they have the sustained intensity to win lot of sessions in a row in Australia? We have to wait and see. One advantage for Srilankans is they also use kookaburra ball.

 

[Saurav]

Yes you are, You are saying Srilanka and India are different conditions when they are not. In any case both are in Asia where England and SA are miles apart.

Why haven't SL won a Test in India if the conditions are same

 

[Pakhs]

Why haven't SL won a Test in India if the conditions are same

Very simple, India have been better than them at home. Common whats complicated about that.

 

[Stalin]

Yes you are, You are saying Srilanka and India are different conditions when they are not. In any case both are in Asia where England and SA are miles apart.

South Africa and Zimbabwe are in the same continent as well. Zimbabwe has got dry and flattish slow wickets while South Africa have lively and quick bouncy wickets.
I'm not saying that indian and Sri Lankan wickets are as dissimilar, but the gap between them is surely as big as South African and English wickets .

 

[Pakhs]

South Africa and Zimbabwe are in the same continent as well. Zimbabwe has got dry and flattish slow wickets while South Africa have lively and quick bouncy wickets.
I'm not saying that indian and Sri Lankan wickets are as dissimilar, but the gap between them is surely as big as South African and English wickets .

I take your first point but Srilanka and Indian wickets are very similar. England wickets dont have high bounce or cracks like SA wickets. The difference in bounce is huge.

 

[CricFan2012]

No, not even the Pakistani team can win there.

 

[ind_win]

Exactly which batsman in SL team can play an aggressive innings like Kohli or grind it out like Pujara.
A wishful thread.

 

[Saurav]

Very simple, India have been better than them at home. Common whats complicated about that.

Home advantage is due to conditions

If conditions are similar SL should be able to win atleast one Test in India in its history

 

[rhony]

TBH, Aussies didn't expect Indians to win it. Pujara shocked everybody and ground their fast bowlers to dust and Bumrah was relentless. India beat Australia with skill, patience in batting and bowling. Does SL have players with those attributes? Don't think so

 

[Pakhs]

Home advantage is due to conditions

If conditions are similar SL should be able to win atleast one Test in India in its history

No the only home advantage India gets when they play Srilanka is familiarity with grounds and crowd support.

 

[rhony]

No Doctor, you're being too generous to India here. Better teams of Pakistan have faced the best teams of Australia and lost. Unlike India who haven't had to face McGrath and Warne in 2003-04, Smith and Warner in 2018-19 (both the faults of Australia's own doing admittedly), Pakistan always faced the best Aussie teams and still managed to compete and run them close on the field. What makes you think the current Pakistan bowlers can't really knock over the likes of Marsh brothers, rookie Harris, and Khawaja in helpful conditions? Pakistan has done well even in 2010 (and lost because of reasons only a certain Akmal would know) when there was no hope and only despair. I fully expect the current Pakistani team to do really well against a weakened Australia in Australia.

You just named the Aussie team that drew a test series in UAE. While India benefited from a few Aussie selection errors like Finch at the top, the series was not lost by Aus but was won by Indians through skill.

Helpful conditions for bowlers you say. In that case, who from Pakistan can bat like Pujara? Which wicket keeper from Pakistan can score a hundred? Pakistan will see better days in test cricket as they are building a good core but they need experience. At this point, India, Eng, NZ, SA can win in Australia and are the top 4 in the world. The others will probably not win a single test.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You just named the Aussie team that drew a test series in UAE. While India benefited from a few Aussie selection errors like Finch at the top, the series was not lost by Aus but was won by Indians through skill.

Helpful conditions for bowlers you say. In that case, who from Pakistan can bat like Pujara? Which wicket keeper from Pakistan can score a hundred? Pakistan will see better days in test cricket as they are building a good core but they need experience. At this point, India, Eng, NZ, SA can win in Australia and are the top 4 in the world. The others will probably not win a single test.

Top post. Even Pakistan would have still lost 3-0 in Australia imo. Simply don't have the bowlers to pick wickets there.

 

[Pakhs]

Top post. Even Pakistan would have still lost 3-0 in Australia imo. Simply don't have the bowlers to pick wickets there.

Its correct Pakistan simply doesn't even have a test team capable of winning in Australia at the moment. But its not the bowling that will let them down, it will be batting as always. India had a good attack but even lesser attacks would be enough for this current Australian batting line up. It will be different when Smith and Warner comes back.

India have actually done well in Australia in the last 10-15 years and was always denied by good Australian sides but this time they Australia was weak and they capitalised.

 

[rhony]

Home advantage is due to conditions

If conditions are similar SL should be able to win atleast one Test in India in its history

This Indian team can win in any conditions in tests at home. They can compete in any conditions abroad. This is a couple of notches below the dominance shown by Aussies in 90s and a few.more notches below the best ever fearsome WI teams of the past.

Every Batsman in the top 7 should be able to score hundreds. No. 5, 6 , 7 should be able to survive the 2nd new ball and also be able to attack. There need to be two all-rounders including the WK that can contribute heavily with bat. Top order needs to be able to survive, grind or score. Bowlers need to be able to take 10 wickets with one new ball. England and India are the closest to achieve this although there are significant pieces still missing.

 

[rhony]

Its correct Pakistan simply doesn't even have a test team capable of winning in Australia at the moment. But its not the bowling that will let them down, it will be batting as always. India had a good attack but even lesser attacks would be enough for this current Australian batting line up. It will be different when Smith and Warner comes back.

India have actually done well in Australia in the last 10-15 years and was always denied by good Australian sides but this time they Australia was weak and they capitalised.

True. If India lost the series, then there should be questions. Why are people complaining when India capitalized and won 2 games and was on the verge of winning the 3rd. However, it was not an easy series. Australia fought tooth and nail and were very competitive. Indian pace bowlers were 140+ and swung the new and old ball. These are great skills. Batting wore the high quality Aussie attack. Fielding grabbed good catches. India needed to be at the top of their game to beat this Aussie team at home. At this point, barring India, England and NZ, nobody is at the top of their game.

SA has batting worries with AB out and Amla in decline. Pak has batting wobbles. BD, WI are bad test teams. SL are inconsistent.

 

[BaankeJi]

History is created only once. It cannot be created again.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Its correct Pakistan simply doesn't even have a test team capable of winning in Australia at the moment. But its not the bowling that will let them down, it will be batting as always. India had a good attack but even lesser attacks would be enough for this current Australian batting line up. It will be different when Smith and Warner comes back.

India have actually done well in Australia in the last 10-15 years and was always denied by good Australian sides but this time they Australia was weak and they capitalised.

Actually that's not true at all. Last time you toured, it was the bowling that led to 3-0 in Australia. It was simply awful. Yes, Smith and Warner were playing but still the averages for PAK bowlers were very poor. The batting held up pretty well especially in the 2nd test. Bowling could not pick up 20 wickets in a single match I think.

 

[Buffet]

How about history created by 4th Asian team to win a series in Aus?

 

[troodon]

Aus will destroy Lankans.

 

[Bilal7]

Actually that's not true at all. Last time you toured, it was the bowling that led to 3-0 in Australia. It was simply awful. Yes, Smith and Warner were playing but still the averages for PAK bowlers were very poor. The batting held up pretty well especially in the 2nd test. Bowling could not pick up 20 wickets in a single match I think.

Yes, and last time you guys played a series against a decent Aussie team, we all got a glimpse of what it would be like watching Bradman. Even their tail-enders were scoring 50s for fun.

Any good bowling attack would have won against this Aussie side which had Finch, a T20 hack, opening the batting and a 35 averaging Marsh as its second-best batsman. Australian pitches since 2015 have been quite flat, barring a few exceptions so most batsmen can do well there.That is a shame because Australia's great pace attack pretty much gets negated at times. Their strategy is to simply outscore the opposition which is not possible without their two best batsman and arguably, best opener.

 

[KP From India]

Do you think this Ind side is on par with SA 2008-2014 or not yet?

 

[geraltofrivia]

India won 2-1 in Aus. Pak lost 0-3 in SA. Jali re jali. jali re jali.

 

[happydavy]

I quite like this Lankan team as I think they have some very good batsmen. Their ODI team especially can upset any team (baring England) during the world cup.

 

[Napa]

Destruction

I am talking in just last 12 months as things can change quickly. India has only beaten the weakest Australian side. And their loss 4-1 is enough o say right now England is best side.

Destruction is 759/7d. There is no comparison between England and India.

 

[Amjid Javed]

The Aussie team is looking awful right now, only problem is SL are so weak right now they dont have the overall quality to take advantage of Australias slump in these conditions away from home.

 

[Pakhs]

Destruction is 759/7d. There is no comparison between England and India.

There is big comparison and its favouring England at the moment. that was before the last India - England series.

 

[Pakhs]

Actually that's not true at all. Last time you toured, it was the bowling that led to 3-0 in Australia. It was simply awful. Yes, Smith and Warner were playing but still the averages for PAK bowlers were very poor. The batting held up pretty well especially in the 2nd test. Bowling could not pick up 20 wickets in a single match I think.

Yes but those were very flat wickets and basically only broke up on 5th day, That was the reason why Pakistan actually managed to bat half decently, If it was Indian batting they would not give 20 wickets on those wickets either.

 

[Pakhs]

True. If India lost the series, then there should be questions. Why are people complaining when India capitalized and won 2 games and was on the verge of winning the 3rd. However, it was not an easy series. Australia fought tooth and nail and were very competitive. Indian pace bowlers were 140+ and swung the new and old ball. These are great skills. Batting wore the high quality Aussie attack. Fielding grabbed good catches. India needed to be at the top of their game to beat this Aussie team at home. At this point, barring India, England and NZ, nobody is at the top of their game.

SA has batting worries with AB out and Amla in decline. Pak has batting wobbles. BD, WI are bad test teams. SL are inconsistent.

Nobody is complaining and you still had to be a good team to beat Australia in Australia. But people are simply saying beating Australia at this present time is not a bench mark to say we are the best side. Yes teams like Pakistan will still struggle but Pakistan is ranked 7th. The true test was England and SA which they couldnt win.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Its shocking that a number 1 ranked team beat a 5th ranked team and the fans of 7th ranked team believe they are just as capable to beat 5th ranked team.

The delusions are just incredible on this forum.

 

[hadi123]

They aren't good enough to win a series in Australia. But I don't think they will get rolled over either, NZ are a better team than Australia atm and not many people would disagree with that, yet we saw how SL put up a fight in NZ, they drew the 1st Test and had NZ in HUGE trouble in the 2nd Test too but for a lower order fightback.

 

[latecut]

Sri Lanka will need to be at the top of their game for long durations of time to beat Australia in Australia. India could do that. I doubt that Sri Lanka will be able to do that. In any case we will know the result soon enough. My guess is that Australia will win comfortably.

 

[Rahul1]

Nobody is complaining and you still had to be a good team to beat Australia in Australia. But people are simply saying beating Australia at this present time is not a bench mark to say we are the best side. Yes teams like Pakistan will still struggle but Pakistan is ranked 7th. The true test was England and SA which they couldnt win.

You need to log out of PP and go outside to get some fresh air. You're really desperate.

 

[latecut]

Just because number one team defeated number 5 team, there are fans who get deluded into believing that their team, ranked number 7 or nine can also defeat this number 5 ranked team. Sri Lanka is ranked number 6 and we may soon find that there is a gulf even between number 5 and number 6 ranked test teams.

 

[rhony]

Nobody is complaining and you still had to be a good team to beat Australia in Australia. But people are simply saying beating Australia at this present time is not a bench mark to say we are the best side. Yes teams like Pakistan will still struggle but Pakistan is ranked 7th. The true test was England and SA which they couldnt win.

What true test? Did you watch the SA or Eng Series? Did you chew your nails off? If not, then you haven't watched it and just read the scoreline. In that case, there is no debate here. Winning a bunch of sessions in every test is an achievement abroad. Learning lessons as you go is what good teams do before they start winning to become great teams.

 

[rhony]

Nobody is complaining and you still had to be a good team to beat Australia in Australia. But people are simply saying beating Australia at this present time is not a bench mark to say we are the best side. Yes teams like Pakistan will still struggle but Pakistan is ranked 7th. The true test was England and SA which they couldnt win.

What are bench marks? India's best test bowler Bumrah and best bowler in those conditions B Kumar were out due to injuries in the initial part of ENg series. That didn't stop you from peddling the 4-1 scoreline time and again. Teams can play only whats in front of them. This will be remembered as an Indian win on Aussie soil. This is will be remembered for Pujara's dominance over Aussie first choice attack. It will also be remembered for the best ever Indian pace attack. Who knows, they could have blown SMith and Warner away like they did to the rest of the batsmen.

 

[Napa]

There is big comparison and its favouring England at the moment. that was before the last India - England series.

A reasonable person would compare England's last performance in India to India's last performance in England. Reason is too much to ask for I guess.

 

[Mainul]

I don't think so. SRL will be whitewashed easily

 

[Ahson8]

1-1 at best

 

[leatherface58]

1-0 or 2-0 to Australia. Lankans are a very weak team right now and no Mathews either.

 

[CadPakFan]

The only way for Sri Lanka to win is for Lakmal to cause havoc and for Kusal Mendis to give them good starts.

 

[fitCricFan]

The way the Lankans were mauled in their own backyard, it will be lucky if they win even a single game. They are a very very weak team at the moment. I would rate AFG much higher than SriLanka

 

[light]

I have no faith in this current bunch of lankan players. It will be AUS's series.

 

[BreadPakoda]

The way the Lankans were mauled in their own backyard, it will be lucky if they win even a single game. They are a very very weak team at the moment. I would rate AFG much higher than SriLanka

Like seriously? What has Afgh done in test cricket? SL is ranked 6th.

 

[Adijazz1706]

They have a good chance, they did decently in NZ. Once Smith and Warner are back, no Asian team is winning in Australia for a long time

 

[Pakhs]

What true test? Did you watch the SA or Eng Series? Did you chew your nails off? If not, then you haven't watched it and just read the scoreline. In that case, there is no debate here. Winning a bunch of sessions in every test is an achievement abroad. Learning lessons as you go is what good teams do before they start winning to become great teams.

I disagree best team would win away from home and definitely should not lose 4-1. India was always strong at home and they did Win a test is SA and England previous tours too. The have done well in Australia in the last few tours actually and only lost because Australia had better teams, guaranteed they would have beaten this side even last time. So whats changed?

 

[Pakhs]

What are bench marks? India's best test bowler Bumrah and best bowler in those conditions B Kumar were out due to injuries in the initial part of ENg series. That didn't stop you from peddling the 4-1 scoreline time and again. Teams can play only whats in front of them. This will be remembered as an Indian win on Aussie soil. This is will be remembered for Pujara's dominance over Aussie first choice attack. It will also be remembered for the best ever Indian pace attack. Who knows, they could have blown SMith and Warner away like they did to the rest of the batsmen.

Not a lot wrong with your statement but point remains India didn't beat a strong Australia side so just because they beat them doesn't prove they are the best side. Australia at present are not a bench mark. England won 4-1 despite not having Ben Stokes who is the best all rounder in the world available to them for 2 matches but they have cover.

 

[Pakhs]

A reasonable person would compare England's last performance in India to India's last performance in England. Reason is too much to ask for I guess.

No he wont definitely not in ODIs as most people appreciate that ODIs are now played in standardized conditions these days. And for the best side you cant lose 4-1 in the most recent series. All I am saying England on current form has played better.

 

[Stalin]

Not a lot wrong with your statement but point remains India didn't beat a strong Australia side so just because they beat them doesn't prove they are the best side. Australia at present are not a bench mark. England won 4-1 despite not having Ben Stokes who is the best all rounder in the world available to them for 2 matches but they have cover.

Say all the gibberish you want buddy , but truth is that India are the best test team in the world at the moment with England as close second. They are rightfully the no.1 test team in the ICC Rankings and are all set to win the test mace for third year in a row.

Now, live with that .

 

[Napa]

No he wont definitely not in ODIs as most people appreciate that ODIs are now played in standardized conditions these days. And for the best side you cant lose 4-1 in the most recent series. All I am saying England on current form has played better.

You obviously are blissfully unaware of home advantage in Test cricket.

 

[rhony]

Not a lot wrong with your statement but point remains India didn't beat a strong Australia side so just because they beat them doesn't prove they are the best side. Australia at present are not a bench mark. England won 4-1 despite not having Ben Stokes who is the best all rounder in the world available to them for 2 matches but they have cover.

Bumrah and Bkumar are Frontline bowlers and they missed the first few tests. Ben Stokes was actually not missed because Curran filled his role and was the difference between the two sides.

I do agree with you that England maybe the best test team at this point. They can win everywhere and can run India close in India with their current team. India can compete in all conditions but have a few weaknesses at the top and in the middle. India has better bowling unit. England have a better batting line up. They bat until 10.

 

[Pakhs]

Say all the gibberish you want buddy , but truth is that India are the best test team in the world at the moment with England as close second. They are rightfully the no.1 test team in the ICC Rankings and are all set to win the test mace for third year in a row.

Now, live with that .

Okay according to you! Not for me. Live with that.

 

[Pakhs]

Bumrah and Bkumar are Frontline bowlers and they missed the first few tests. Ben Stokes was actually not missed because Curran filled his role and was the difference between the two sides.

I do agree with you that England maybe the best test team at this point. They can win everywhere and can run India close in India with their current team. India can compete in all conditions but have a few weaknesses at the top and in the middle. India has better bowling unit. England have a better batting line up. They bat until 10.

They did miss Bumrah but nor B Kumar. At the time nodoby actually knew they will miss Bumrah either because nobody thought he will that well in swinging condition where hit the deck is not so important. But as it turned out he bowled very well.

England when absolutely everything considered are the best side right at this moment. India are number 1 mathematically due to gaining maximum points at home as they are definitely the best team in their own conditions. In my opinion England will beat everyone away other than India and India have just toured so they also lost to SA.

 

[Pakhs]

You obviously are blissfully unaware of home advantage in Test cricket.

I am aware of home conditions but I give it less value now a days in ODI cricket.

 

[rhony]

I disagree best team would win away from home and definitely should not lose 4-1. India was always strong at home and they did Win a test is SA and England previous tours too. The have done well in Australia in the last few tours actually and only lost because Australia had better teams, guaranteed they would have beaten this side even last time. So whats changed?

Indian teams lost badly overseas earlier. But now they compete hard in almost every test abroad. Lords test was the only aberration. It's a transition phase where you compete before you dominate. In several tests, the batting which is usually the strngth of India let them down. Bowling is the reason why India is competetive and that's what's changed. They can take 20 wickets now against anyone in any conditions

 

[Pakhs]

Indian teams lost badly overseas earlier. But now they compete hard in almost every test abroad. Lords test was the only aberration. It's a transition phase where you compete before you dominate. In several tests, the batting which is usually the strngth of India let them down. Bowling is the reason why India is competetive and that's what's changed. They can take 20 wickets now against anyone in any conditions

In the 90s yes but since then they have been competing very well in overseas. they have had some disastrous results in England but at the same time they won once in 2007 too which they didnt with current side. SA and Aus they have been managing to compete against their ATG sides through 2000s and 2010s. Dont forget both SA and Aus had very strong side in 2000s.

 

[rhony]

They did miss Bumrah but nor B Kumar. At the time nodoby actually knew they will miss Bumrah either because nobody thought he will that well in swinging condition where hit the deck is not so important. But as it turned out he bowled very well.

England when absolutely everything considered are the best side right at this moment. India are number 1 mathematically due to gaining maximum points at home as they are definitely the best team in their own conditions. In my opinion England will beat everyone away other than India and India have just toured so they also lost to SA.

BK was a beast with both bat and ball on previous Eng tour. He swings the ball and has proved himself on the SA tour as well. He makes runs too as he did on the SA tour. India never recovered from their loss.
If you watched the series, you'd see Indian bowling had Eng on the mat in almost every test. As I said Indian batting never came to the party. Agarwal was the difference in AUS at the top. WIth SHaw coming up, they have a decent looking top 5. Rahane needs to be consistent and they need Pandya to balance the side. If Eng and India compete now with their full strength squads, the series will be very close in England and India. Eng as I said might edge India at this point because of their batting depth but it's not as vast as 4-1 scoreline suggests. It's also not bad as 3-0 hammering that Eng took in India not too long ago. Things have changed in the last few months and both teams are better now.

 

[rhony]

In the 90s yes but since then they have been competing very well in overseas. they have had some disastrous results in England but at the same time they won once in 2007 too which they didnt with current side. SA and Aus they have been managing to compete against their ATG sides through 2000s and 2010s. Dont forget both SA and Aus had very strong side in 2000s.

Couldnt care less about 2007 or 2000s. Im talking about the current condition of the teams. As I said it wasnt disastrous either. Lessons were learned and India let England's lower order get away. They will be better for the experience.

 

[Pakhs]

BK was a beast with both bat and ball on previous Eng tour. He swings the ball and has proved himself on the SA tour as well. He makes runs too as he did on the SA tour. India never recovered from their loss.
If you watched the series, you'd see Indian bowling had Eng on the mat in almost every test. As I said Indian batting never came to the party. Agarwal was the difference in AUS at the top. WIth SHaw coming up, they have a decent looking top 5. Rahane needs to be consistent and they need Pandya to balance the side. If Eng and India compete now with their full strength squads, the series will be very close in England and India. Eng as I said might edge India at this point because of their batting depth but it's not as vast as 4-1 scoreline suggests. It's also not bad as 3-0 hammering that Eng took in India not too long ago. Things have changed in the last few months and both teams are better now.

Couldnt care less about 2007 or 2000s. Im talking about the current condition of the teams. As I said it wasnt disastrous either. Lessons were learned and India let England's lower order get away. They will be better for the experience.

Both teams are close for sure. Point is England last year has done slightly better than India. Regarding my point of earlier teams they also competed this current team is no better than earlier Indian sides. The drawn series against best side ever to play the game in Australia 2004 was the best achievement of any Indian side away to date. By winning they ticked the box of never winning their which is very good to do but they didnt beat some ATG level team.

 

[rhony]

Both teams are close for sure. Point is England last year has done slightly better than India. Regarding my point of earlier teams they also competed this current team is no better than earlier Indian sides. The drawn series against best side ever to play the game in Australia 2004 was the best achievement of any Indian side away to date. By winning they ticked the box of never winning their which is very good to do but they didnt beat some ATG level team.

Indian batting was better then but fast bowling was crap. Not any more.

 

[Stalin]

Thank god the ICC follows a well

 

[Stalin]

Thank god the ICC follows a well structured ranking system rather than some senseless and futile factors to decide the best test team like a few envious posters here.

 

[Mahee]

Yes they're going to trash Australia...a 2-0 win is inevitable