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Will Sri Lanka make a sporting declaration?

JibranAnsari

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In case pakistan scores 70-80 runs tomorrow and survive 1 session. Srilanka with a lead of 50-60 can add 200-220 in two sessions. Will they make a sporting declaration and leave pakistan chasing 270-280 in 90 overs? will they take this risk? Pakistan as I understand will not go for the chase so srilanka have a chance to find a win if they are brave enough.
 
No Dilshan is not brave enuff to make such a declaration....

If the scenario is as stated by OP Srilanka will bat till atleast 15-20 overs of final day
 
hur rizvi said:
No Dilshan is not brave enuff to make such a declaration....

If the scenario is as stated by OP Srilanka will bat till atleast 15-20 overs of final day
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I think he is brave enough to do it, I don't know if senior players like sanga and mahela will agree.
 
Let us bat s1 of day 4 first. We badly need another 60-80 runs here. Or bat time, kill a session or so from the game.
 
If anything, that would turn out in favour of SL.

Because the cracks are going to widen up, and thus more support for SL spinners.
Pakistan as we know it could collapse, and with Misbah mentality Pakistan would never go for the win.
 
they have nothing to lose, cant see why they wont, plus we have no umar akmal in the team
 
I don't think so. They should though, I don't think Pakistan is going to take the risk in the final innings.
 
No they wont risk it. After losing and drawing so many games, its highly unlikely.

SL's best chance is they pick wickets quickly tomorrow and setup 300+ target with 3 and a half session to bowl. Anything else and they'll go back in the shell
 
Dilshan & SL desperately need a win. I think, they will make a supporting declaration if given a chance. Misbah will try to bat for the draw but if we get out like OP said, SL should and will give themselves enough over bowl pak out.
 
Whatever they will do, we will go for a draw. Simple.
 
Nope safety first They ll make sure they cant lose the test before they attempt to go for a win

That ll work in pakistans favour
 
Why should they? They are 1-0 down...their priority is to make runs quickly as possible and get a huge lead..if there is a sporting declaration, then fairplay to them.
 
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All depends on how well and long we bat for tomorrow also depends on how much a lead sri lanka have?

Also they will need to score quickly and then also give themselves enough time to take another 10 pakistan wickets!
 
Lanka will declare at the start of day 5 not before.

It better to lose 2-0 rather going to level the series.
 
in_cutter said:
Why should they? They are 1-0 down...their priority is to make runs quickly as possible and get a huge lead..if there is a sporting declaration, then fairplay to them.
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I don't think you understand. SL are the ones who should want to win this test, Pakistan would be happier with a draw than SL.

A sporting declaration is a declaration that gives a chance for both teams to win the match and decreases chances of a draw.

Actually reading your post again, you contradict yourself. 'Their priority is to make runs as quickly as possible and get a huge lead'. Well why would they want to do that, to declare as early as possible and push for a win right? That is what the OP means by a sporting declaration.
 
Pakistan might well bat out the whole first session tomorrow, and Sri lanka will play till morning on the fifth day ... I think Pakistan can survive for 70-80 overs on the final day.

Pakistan isn't gonna win this one, max they can do is draw it.
 
but honestly SL has nothing to lose ... they should go for the kill ... They will lose the series anyhow, 1-0 or 2-0, it's a series loss ... might as well try to win the game and level the series.

what will they gain by drawing? nothing.
 
No, and especially not if Mathews is approaching a milestone lol. Also, the Zimb/NZ game will be in the back of their minds, they'll be cautious.

Pakistan can still win by an innings though, just need the tail to wag a bit. :rehman
 
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Yeah. Because SL has to win a game to draw the series. So they will most likely declare.
 
kkmix said:
but honestly SL has nothing to lose ... they should go for the kill ... They will lose the series anyhow, 1-0 or 2-0, it's a series loss ... might as well try to win the game and level the series.

what will they gain by drawing? nothing.
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if they lose this match they will lose their #5th spot on the test rankings table to Pakistan lol
 
leading by 81 with 9 wickets in hand, lets see how they bat in next 15 overs to get their intention.
 
SensiblePakFan said:
Inzi mentioned this today on his YouTube show. Could be an option.
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Compared with 8 years ago, this is the World Test Championship.

They will take the 24 points for a draw rather than risking them in pursuit of a 60 point win.
 
there is no chance this game is going to produce a result, but at the very least they will want to give their bowlers some burn. They will either be bowled out, or declare, question is when.
 
coy0607 said:
there is no chance this game is going to produce a result, but at the very least they will want to give their bowlers some burn. They will either be bowled out, or declare, question is when.
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Opposite - If possible, I would make PAK bowlers bowl at my tail till 4:30PM on Day 5. That serves two purpose - tiring the 4 men pace attack, which is going to cost something in back to back Test. And, this is an wonderful opportunity for my tail to have a net session in match condition - bowlers hardly get time in nets; here Lankans can do that at the expense of PAK pacers.

And, forget about sporting declaration - it's Test cricket, not random FC game where both teams declare to ensure one of them earns full point from the game. Only once two Captains forfeited one innings .... and we know now, why.
 
MMHS said:
Opposite - If possible, I would make PAK bowlers bowl at my tail till 4:30PM on Day 5. That serves two purpose - tiring the 4 men pace attack, which is going to cost something in back to back Test. And, this is an wonderful opportunity for my tail to have a net session in match condition - bowlers hardly get time in nets; here Lankans can do that at the expense of PAK pacers.

And, forget about sporting declaration - it's Test cricket, not random FC game where both teams declare to ensure one of them earns full point from the game. Only once two Captains forfeited one innings .... and we know now, why.
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I get your point of trying to tire out the fast bowlers, but it can't be effectively executed. After the current pair, the tail is really really abysmal - Kumara, Rajitha and Fernando all have batting averages of below 4! They haven't even done anything in domestic with the bat. Pakistan need one wicket, the next 3 will probably take less than 5 overs.

And Pakistani bowlers should be pretty fresh, they have barely bowled in the last 2 days, and even on the first day they had regular rain delays so there wasn't any overuse.

At most, Pakistan bowl out SL in 15-20 overs. Otherwise SL may declare after either Perera or Silva get out and give their bowlers a go in relatively friendly conditions at Pakistan's very weak batting line-up.

Nothing to do with 'sporting declaration' - this would just be SL's best chance to put pressure on Pakistan
 
No point due to the decision to have this match in Pindi in December.
 
Not sure what would be the point of declaring. If they could get to 350, and they can hope to bundle Pakistan out for 150 and enforce the follow on. But i expect them to be bowled out for 325 or so.
 
Well, SL can't make a sporting declaration even if they want to.

Coz all these days (except day 1) have been near washouts. Today won't be any different either.
 
Should Sri Lanka declare their inning in the spirit of tne game and let home team bat

Pakistani fans have waited 10 years for this and it is somewhat sad that they have not been able to see their boys bat right in front of them.

This match is a draw.

In the spirit of the game Sri Lanka must declare.
 
Pakistan and Sri Lanka both should mutually agree to declare their second inning at 0.
 
A sporting declaration

DECLARATION AND FORFEITURE LAW

15.1 Time of declaration

The captain of the side batting may declare an innings closed, when the ball is dead, at any time during the innings. A declared innings shall be considered to be a completed innings.

15.2 Forfeiture of an innings

A captain may forfeit either of his/her side’s innings at any time before the commencement of that innings. A forfeited innings shall be considered to be a completed innings.

15.3 Notification

A captain shall notify the opposing captain and the umpires of any decision to declare or to forfeit an innings. Once notified, the decision cannot be changed.


A sporting declaration turned sour - The only time a team declared at 0/0

England tour of South Africa, 5th (Final) Test: South Africa v England at Centurion, Jan 14-18, 2000 – a match that had once seemed as the epitome of sporting behaviour between two teams, only to later turn out to be the result of a match-fixing deal.

In the rain-affected test match between West Indies and Australia at Sydney, Steven Smith made an offer of chasing down 370 in 70 overs - an offer to enliven what had become a dull Test match - which was turned down by West Indian skipper, Jason Holder.

West Indies won the toss and elected to bat first at Sydney. West Indies could score 248/7 in their first innings with only one day to go. The first two days had limited play due to rain while the 3rd and 4th days were completely washed out. The match was certainly heading towards a draw. The crowd had lost interest in the match so much so that the administration announced free entry for the 5th and final day to bring in some spectators.

Steven Smith came up with even a better strategy. He approached his counterpart, Jason Holder and made him what he called a ‘generous offer’. West Indies, under the terms of the offer, were to declare their first innings following which Australia would declare their first on 0/0. West Indies would score around 121 runs in their second innings leaving around 370 for Australia to chase in 70 overs in the last innings of the match. However, Holder talked to his team and finally declined the offer. The match ultimately ended in an inevitable draw.

Had Holder accepted Smith’s offer, it would have become only the second instance in test history when such a deal would have struck between two captains. It would also have been only the second instance in test history when a team declared their innings at 0/0. But it did not happen and we are here to take a look at the only instance when this did happen.

It was England’s tour of South Africa and the hosts were 2-0 up in the series with the last match to be played at Centurion, much like the 2015/16 Aus-WI series where Australia were 2-0 up with the last match seeing such an offer. The visitors, just like West Indies, won the toss but elected to field. South Africa made 155/6 on the first day before rain stopped play. In that match also, the 3rd and 4th days were completely washed with the only difference being that the 2nd day was also rendered delivery-less.

With the last day left for play, the match was on its way to an imminent draw. Much like Steven Smith, the home captain Hansie Cronje made an offer to the visiting captain Nasser Hussain. However unlike Jason Holder, Nasser Hussain accepted the offer.

Hansie Cronje talked to Alec Stewart before the start of 5th day’s play and placed an offer for England to chase down 270 in 73 overs (a much more achievable target than the 370 of this match). England were not ready to accept the deal, since they were not sure how the pitch would behave after four days of rain. However the ease with which Klusener and Pollock played in the early overs of the first session on 5th day convinced the English skipper, Nasser Hussain, to take up the challenge.

Around 40 minutes into play, Nasser Hussain sent a message to Hansie Cronje to check whether the deal was still on. He asked, “how about us chasing 250”? The target was intentionally kept low so that bargaining would make it around 260. However, Nasser Hussain was surprised by the ready acceptance of the deal by Hansie Cronje.

The deal was finalized as 245 in 76 overs rather than the original 270 in 73 overs. A four of the last ball of the 72nd over of the African Innings made the target jump to 249 instead of the agreed 245. South Africa declared their first innings on 248-8, followed by England’s declaration on 0/0. South Africa forfeited their second innings and thus England were to chase 249.

England, in chasing, were 102-4 when Michael Vaughan joined Alec Stewart on the crease. A partnership of 126 between the two brought life to England’s chase. However, when Alec Stewart fell on the total of 228, England still had to make 21 with 5 wickets in hand. England lost three more wickets when they reached 240. The finale had become a real thrilling one with 9 required with 2 wickets left.

Darren Gough and Silwerwood’s 11 run partnership saw England home with only 5 balls to go in the day. Michael Vaughan was adjudged man of the match for his match winning knock of 69 runs off 108 balls.

The match was however later on tainted when five months after the conclusion of match, Hansie Cronje confessed that he made the deal when some bookmaker had asked him to bring about a result out of this match. This was the first instance when match-fixing was proven in cricket.

is Pakistan & Srilanka are bold enough to make such decision's ??
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
Pakistani fans have waited 10 years for this and it is somewhat sad that they have not been able to see their boys bat right in front of them.

This match is a draw.

In the spirit of the game Sri Lanka must declare.
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Well the fans got to see their players field no ? Why does it matter if they bat or not ?
 
PAK and SL will get 20 points each if the Test is drawn. But if they agree to forfeit innings and go for a win, one of them can get 60 points. We might not have play today but forecast for tomorrow is clear. SL can challenge Pakistan to chase 283 in 80 odd overs.
 
Pakistan would probably like it because frankly 20 points from a home game won't mean much. They should go for triple or nothing.

As for Sri Lanka, they may not want it because the pitch doesn't look that dangerous and why would they want to risk 20 points from an away game?

It would be amazing if it happens but doesn't look very likely.
 
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Abdullah476 said:
Pakistan would probably like it because frankly 20 points from a home game won't mean much. They should go for triple or nothing.

As for Sri Lanka, they may not want it because the pitch doesn't look that dangerous and why would they want to risk 20 points from an away game?

It would be amazing if it happens but doesn't look very likely.
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for the sake of this Historic test after a decade they may give it a go if Pak tried..
it would be amazing for fans & Cricket
 
They may do it after De Silva gets a century, or gets out. Pakistan may get at most 75 overs so they probably will feel comfortable setting that challenge
 
Or if ICC allows , play an ODI on the last day.

The first-ever One Day International was an impromptu one, played between England and Australia in Melbourne on January 5, 1971. The 40-overs-per-side (eight balls per over) match was played on what would have been the fifth day of the washed-out third Ashes Test. It was played to appease the crowd and recover financial losses for the Don Bradman-led Australian board
 
It will be dumb of SL to declare really early to give Pakistan a chance at the total. This is not a 5th day pitch, it’s a second day pitch. Pakistan batsmen can try to have a go at it and if that don’t work they easily block. There is no way SL is going to win this.
 
Realromeo said:
Well the fans got to see their players field no ? Why does it matter if they bat or not ?
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The worst feeling in the world when we were kids was when we bowled full overs but the opposition team.abandoned the match not letting us have our turn to bat.

This is why 99% tosses in fully cricket end up in winning t am running away with the bat.
 
Birdman said:
It will be dumb of SL to declare really early to give Pakistan a chance at the total. This is not a 5th day pitch, it’s a second day pitch. Pakistan batsmen can try to have a go at it and if that don’t work they easily block. There is no way SL is going to win this.
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They should declare when De Silva gets his hundred and set Pakistan a target of 330ish in 60 overs. That'd be fun to watch
 
freelance_cricketer said:
The worst feeling in the world when we were kids was when we bowled full overs but the opposition team.abandoned the match not letting us have our turn to bat.

This is why 99% tosses in fully cricket end up in winning t am running away with the bat.
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Understandable.
 
SL owe Pakistan to give them chance to win this test. This is historic ocassion for Pakistan cricket. I hope SL don't get selfish.
 
Birdman said:
It will be dumb of SL to declare really early to give Pakistan a chance at the total. This is not a 5th day pitch, it’s a second day pitch. Pakistan batsmen can try to have a go at it and if that don’t work they easily block. There is no way SL is going to win this.
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Lol. Have u seen last 5 year record of batting out the last day of our beloved team
 
Every1 does know that for this to happen Azhar All also needs to forfeit wet innings
 
Sri Lanka should declare sportingly after De Silva's hundred.

Not to forfeit innings or any such out of the box scheme but simply to let Pak home audience get to watch a day of Pakistan batting.

It will be a really good goodwill gesture
 
Pakistan and Srk Lanka should both declare their next innings at 0 making Pakistan chase 300 in 75 overs
 
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