Bangladesh as a sporting nation?

General Sporting: Genetics is important for sports, but it definitely isnt everything. Homogeneous country like someone said. A lot of development is Dhaka centric from Education, Sports, Economy. Soccer is technically their primary sport, and used to be decent back in the days, but due to corruption and other factors it died down.

Cricket: Fluke advancing to T20 WC Semifinal wouldnt really have meant much in the grand scheme of things. Poor and childish attitude of players ranging from premature celebrations to off field theatrics. If one area improve the other main area decline. ALL the key players goes off form during main event. I am yet to see a Bangladesh Cricket with all of its boxes ticked. They need more players like Ebadot Hossain who single handedly won a test in NZ which is probably only memorable thing for BD Cricket as of yet.
You think Afghans beating BD Aus and NZ fluke advanced to semis?
 
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General Sporting: Genetics is important for sports, but it definitely isnt everything. Homogeneous country like someone said. A lot of development is Dhaka centric from Education, Sports, Economy. Soccer is technically their primary sport, and used to be decent back in the days, but due to corruption and other factors it died down.

Cricket: Fluke advancing to T20 WC Semifinal wouldnt really have meant much in the grand scheme of things. Poor and childish attitude of players ranging from premature celebrations to off field theatrics. If one area improve the other main area decline. ALL the key players goes off form during main event. I am yet to see a Bangladesh Cricket with all of its boxes ticked. They need more players like Ebadot Hossain who single handedly won a test in NZ which is probably only memorable thing for BD Cricket as of yet.
Mohammad Ashraful winning against full strength Australia was an iconic knock for so long in BD history. He didn't fully evolve like Aravinda De silva did for Srilanka. Among the guys Shakib was the only one who showed consistent growth. Srilanka produced more heroes within their ranks. Mahela, Sangakkara, Jayasuriya.
 
General Sporting: Genetics is important for sports, but it definitely isnt everything. Homogeneous country like someone said. A lot of development is Dhaka centric from Education, Sports, Economy. Soccer is technically their primary sport, and used to be decent back in the days, but due to corruption and other factors it died down.

Cricket: Fluke advancing to T20 WC Semifinal wouldnt really have meant much in the grand scheme of things. Poor and childish attitude of players ranging from premature celebrations to off field theatrics. If one area improve the other main area decline. ALL the key players goes off form during main event. I am yet to see a Bangladesh Cricket with all of its boxes ticked. They need more players like Ebadot Hossain who single handedly won a test in NZ which is probably only memorable thing for BD Cricket as of yet.

T20 really hurt us lol, because of t20 there are at least one world cup every two years and we are getting exposed in icc events.🤣
 
BD have athletic guys. It's not genetics. Nobody is expecting 100 m sprint athletes and you don't need that for cricket anyway.

It could be the pitches. Eastern India also has horrible pitches which encourage darters who fire it on a length.

You can't develop batters or wrist spinners on such surfaces.

BD are producing good bowlers. This is a controversial take but imo all evidence points to the fact you need a world class batting lineup to win in white ball cricket.

Importance of bowling is massively overrated.

BD just don't produce elite white ball batters. The gifted ones like Sowmya and Litton have not fulfilled their talent.

Shanto is one of the worst batsmen in the T20 format and you made him captain ? Terrible decision.


Towhid looks like he is potentially a damn good batter but if he gets wasted like Sowmya and Litton , there is no hope for BD.
 
We are not a sporting nation. It's very clear now.

I some time wonder if we Bengalies are genetically not athletic. If you look in cricket history even west Bengal gave only one world class cricketer to India.

We have very intellectual people though. Two Bengals had many famous writers/poets
Is it True that Shakib is a member of Parliament too?
Too much direct politics.
Nothing to do with genes bhai, that difference caused will be miniscule and can affect straightaway sports like sprinting and swimming. Bengali brothers are honestly stuck in the past glory. World has moved far ahead even in intellectual fields too.
 
Guys, please just have a look at Shakib ul Hasan's wiki page. :ROFLMAO:
The length is bigger than wiki pages for entire Nations :excitedtroll


500+ References!!

In August 2018, he became a green card holder which allows him to live and work in the US.
:shocked
 
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Is it True that Shakib is a member of Parliament too?
Too much direct politics.
Nothing to do with genes bhai, that difference caused will be miniscule and can affect straightaway sports like sprinting and swimming. Bengali brothers are honestly stuck in the past glory. World has moved far ahead even in intellectual fields too.
To be absolutely brutaly honest regarding stuck in past glory, you kinda have a point. we are brought up being taught our history. we are very proud to be a very brave nation who gave away blood just to speak in their own language. but nowadays I dont think the modern generation will care, i am sure if anyone slaps them and tells them to forget bangla and start singing in hindi they will start singing my name is shilla shila ka jawani without any protest.

what you see in social media are the seeds of these idiotic young generation

and yeah shakib is a member of parliament, he is a politician in the BDCT and outside of it
 
To be absolutely brutaly honest regarding stuck in past glory, you kinda have a point. we are brought up being taught our history. we are very proud to be a very brave nation who gave away blood just to speak in their own language. but nowadays I dont think the modern generation will care, i am sure if anyone slaps them and tells them to forget bangla and start singing in hindi they will start singing my name is shilla shila ka jawani without any protest.

what you see in social media are the seeds of these idiotic young generation

and yeah shakib is a member of parliament, he is a politician in the BDCT and outside of it
Active sportspersons should stay away from politics. Corrupts the game very easily.
 
Bengalis have never done well in any sport. They are unlikely to do well until they show some humility and realize where they stand and asses What they need to do to get ahead
The Indian side of Bengal is good at football, or rather, used to be. They used to have a great football league with sides like Mohun Bagan, East Bengal and Mohammedan Sporting among others battling it out. They have even produced some good cricketers.
But I agree about the general attitude of many Bengalis. They're too smug and full of themselves, by and large.
 
The Indian side of Bengal is good at football, or rather, used to be. They used to have a great football league with sides like Mohun Bagan, East Bengal and Mohammedan Sporting among others battling it out. They have even produced some good cricketers.
But I agree about the general attitude of many Bengalis. They're too smug and full of themselves, by and large.
In some ways I think Bengali control over Indian football is the reason we have not progressed in it at all despite dumping so much money into it. AIFF and other football clubs are corrupt.
 
Genetics do matter a bit though, no idea why you want to deny. For the same reason why west Bengal has done so poorly in cricket and other sports.

You can't compare Afghans to Bangladeshis in that regard. They are taller, stronger, fitter and have a more athletic build., you know Saurav Ganguly, Leander Paes were from WB, right? Or how many Olympians are?
 
Please icc/bcci take there cricket status away.. truly a pathetic cricketing nation.
 
That Rishad guy is the find of the tournament. Tall leggie who can hit big shots as well.
 
Please icc/bcci take there cricket status away.. truly a pathetic cricketing nation.
I want the same, I want to go back to feeling like the 90s where I can support other teams and watch cricket in peace. from the day in 2000 BD came to play with the big boys my cricket piece is gone. sure they gave some moments that we rejoiced but the pain and disappointments are just too much

Please ICC take our cricket status, let us play with nepal and other associates of asia and qualify for the world cup though qualifications rounds.
 
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I want the same, I want to go back to feeling like the 90s where I can support other teams and watch cricket in piece. from the day in 2000 BD came to play with the big boys my cricket piece is gone. sure they gave some moments that we rejoiced but the pain and disappointments are just too much

Please ICC take our cricket status, let us play with nepal and other associates of asia and qualify for the world cup though qualifications rounds.
You seem to be a true patriotic BD fan. I can understand your pain. Unfortunately, there is another BD fan (highly active 24 × 7 on this forum) who is least bothered about BD team's performance on the big stage. He keeps deriving pleasure by watching Team Ind lose to top opponents (which has got nothing to do with BD) and equating those Indian defeats to a BD victory everytime. I think BD team deserves better & more rational fans (like you)
 
That Rishad guy is the find of the tournament. Tall leggie who can hit big shots as well.
I was very impressed with Rishad but hope he doesn't go the same way other young Bangladesh players have gone.

Think Shakib needs to retire to allow the next leader to reshape the team
 
I was very impressed with Rishad but hope he doesn't go the same way other young Bangladesh players have gone.

Think Shakib needs to retire to allow the next leader to reshape the team
Rishad is a breath of fresh air in the SLA brigade that we were producing since the dawn of time. on top of being a leggi he can also play big shots against spin. my only worry is that there was another player called sohag gazi who was doing really well under saqlain mustak, once mustak left, gazi became absolute bad. Rishad is really doing well under Mustak ahmed, i hope he doesn't falter away after one mone mustak is gone

I will give you an example as to why we struggle in cricket. shalauddin is one of our best local coaches, and he was coach of a team in BPL, Rishad was in his team and he did not play rishad at all, he was asked why he did not play rishad and he said I am here to win not to give charity, so you can see how the leggies are view here in local cricket
 
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I'm only who thinks that after 2019 WC Bangladesh gone in backward direction .

They had golden period from 2015 to 2019 .
Key in the period was Mashrafe Bin Mortaza. A proper leader with proper drive, determination, planning and vision. Since he left BD cricket has gone back to pre 2015 era days.

Also what hasn’t helped BD cricket batting wise that players like Sabbir Rahman, Soumya Sarkar, Liton Das haven’t stepped up and moved to next level, even Nasir Hossain. Two of them disappeared. Them players BD has invested a lot since 2012. Look at Soumya and Liton they have had the most chances given to any players in the history of BD cricket existence since it got test status 2000.
 
Please icc/bcci take there cricket status away.. truly a pathetic cricketing nation.
BCCI is a cricket board, not the governing body. While it might be an influential board, it does not have the authority to make these decisions.
 
Rishad is a breath of fresh air in the SLA brigade that we were producing since the dawn of time. on top of being a leggi he can also play big shots against spin. my only worry is that there was another player called sohag gazi who was doing really well under saqlain mustak, once mustak left, gazi became absolute bad. Rishad is really doing well under Mustak ahmed, i hope he doesn't falter away after one mone mustak is gone

I will give you an example as to why we struggle in cricket. shalauddin is one of our best local coaches, and he was coach of a team in BPL, Rishad was in his team and he did not play rishad at all, he was asked why he did not play rishad and he said I am here to win not to give charity, so you can see how the leggies are view here in local cricket
Sohag Gazi was the one with dodgy action?
 
We always have Bangla Bro's as our back up, no matter how hard our boys mess up. you always have the Bangla team trying to go one step further. Unfortunately SL also seems in a serious decline.
 
We always have Bangla Bro's as our back up, no matter how hard our boys mess up. you always have the Bangla team trying to go one step further. Unfortunately SL also seems in a serious decline.
Bangla is a language, WB people are also Bangla Bros, Bangladeshi is the nationality
 
Despite the bad performance, BD have qualified for CT 2025 (by eliminating Sri Lanka) and also Super 8 in the last World T20 (also by eliminating Sri Lanka).

Bangladesh should drop Mahmudullah and Shakib. Should get some of the U-19 guys.
 
I am not sure what the numbers suggest, and I dont think Bangladesh have toured Pakistan on my many occasions, but I think Bangladesh could have massively benefited by touring Pakistan during the time when no international team was interested.

Please dont start the rant that Bangladeshi life matters, because if you think that presidential level security is not good enough, then I will rest my case.
 
I am not sure what the numbers suggest, and I dont think Bangladesh have toured Pakistan on my many occasions, but I think Bangladesh could have massively benefited by touring Pakistan during the time when no international team was interested.

Please dont start the rant that Bangladeshi life matters, because if you think that presidential level security is not good enough, then I will rest my case.

All teams regularly tour Bangladesh except for Australia maybe. There are FTP commitments, WTC etc. They have to come.

Even Aussies came to BD in 2017 and also in 2021.

Regarding visiting Pakistan, I believe BD have been visiting Pakistan regularly for the past 4-5 years. Went for 2-3 full tours and Asia Cup.
 
IS the green car holder reference true ? Jeez, dont want him to represent the USA team now. I am shuddering at the thought..
His wife is American and children are by birth american..he won't represent USA don't worry. He is money hungry and there isn't much money in playing for USA cricket ATM.

He is already an MP in BD..I predict he will be busy stealing from the general public as MPs do in BD
 
His wife is American and children are by birth american..he won't represent USA don't worry. He is money hungry and there isn't much money in playing for USA cricket ATM.

He is already an MP in BD..I predict he will be busy stealing from the general public as MPs do in BD
MLC Major league cricket is starting in a week LOL ! But yeah guess more money to make in politics than cricket from now on for him. Politicians in SC are so filthy rich no matter what country - Ind Ban Pak SL doesnt matter..
 
I am guessing corruption. There shouldn't really be any reason why they are this weak. Nations usually start to do well once they enter their growth phase when the middle class widens. The greater mobility allows people to have a career in sports. Bangladesh has nearly the same per capita as India being in lower middle income nation, they also have a decent growth rate, sports culture in football. Makes no sense why they are this weak aside from corruption. Maybe some top down initiative like TOPS can open the bottlecap.
 
Despite the bad performance, BD have qualified for CT 2025 (by eliminating Sri Lanka) and also Super 8 in the last World T20 (also by eliminating Sri Lanka).

Bangladesh should drop Mahmudullah and Shakib. Should get some of the U-19 guys.
You guys will come good soon. Don't take too much from the words of these Indians.
 
You guys will come good soon. Don't take too much from the words of these Indians.

In sha Allah. Let's see.

I think they may stay at #8 for a while. May keep on losing to Pakistan, India, South Africa, NZ, Australia, and England (with occasional upsets). May beat SL, Afghanistan, and Windies every now and then. Should dominate Zimbabwe, Ireland, and associates.
 
You guys will come good soon. Don't take too much from the words of these Indians.

For me, its not even Bangladesh's record. Win lose is part of cricket, there are bad phases for the best of the teams. But with Bangladesh they never even seem to fight. There was a long phase in Indian cricket where the entire team raised the white flag as soon as Sachin got out and the record chasing was pathetic. Bangladesh's entire cricket history reminded me of that.

They barely attempted that chase in 12.1 overs against Afghanistan. Any other team would have gone out all guns blazing. They always look for respectable defeats and put up no fight
 
25 years isn't soon enough?, I don't dream anymore. What couldn't be done in 25 years is not going to be done in next 25

It's all good. It is just a sport.

Focus should be on economy first (which has taken a hit over the past few years).

If they do well in cricket and other sports, that's a bonus.
 
It's all good. It is just a sport.

Focus should be on economy first (which has taken a hit over the past few years).

If they do well in cricket and other sports, that's a bonus.

Well obviously economy and country condition is more important than sports. But we are in a sports forum and talking about cricket right.

What's the point of playing if we are taking it like a bonus
 
More hope from Nepal coming good than these over hyped toygers. BD's full membership should be taken away, given to more deserving candidates.

Who hype us other than our fans? Most of the hypers fans you see are from social media and most likely 15 years old.

General public in BD calls our team Mayer dua cricket team. That means this team can only win if all the mothers in BD prey. This is the hype this team gets in Bangladesh
 
Well obviously economy and country condition is more important than sports. But we are in a sports forum and talking about cricket right.

What's the point of playing if we are taking it like a bonus

Truth be told, I don't think there is any quick solution.

BD are likely to stay where they are for the next 50 years. They are likely to beat Sri Lanka, West Indies, and Afghanistan every now and then. They are likely to get crushed by top 6 teams (with occasional upsets). They are likely to dominate Zimbabwe, Ireland, and associates (with occasional slipups).

That's what is probably going to happen. Let's see.

Bangalis are generally terrible at cricket. Even West Bengal isn't that great. How many West Bengal players make it to national team of India? Only Sourav Ganguly was the genuine superstar.
 
Truth be told, I don't think there is any quick solution.

BD are likely to stay where they are for the next 50 years. They are likely to beat Sri Lanka, West Indies, and Afghanistan every now and then. They are likely to get crushed by top 6 teams (with occasional upsets). They are likely to dominate Zimbabwe, Ireland, and associates (with occasional slipups).

That's what is probably going to happen. Let's see.

Bangalis are generally terrible at cricket. Even West Bengal isn't that great. How many West Bengal players make it to national team of India? Only Sourav Ganguly was the genuine superstar.
Yes BDCT will stay like this for eternity unless RCA is done and work on that. But that will not happen with our board you and I both know that.

Early test status was the worst thing for us. Back in 1999 ICC did not have the system they have now for associate to play against each other and improve and gain confidence. We were brought straight to the frying pan playing with the top teams. Losing and losing bad playing these teams took a toll on our mind set for the game.

If you think we will keep on beating SL I have bad news for you. SL is going through a transitional period. This period has been uncomfortably long for the lankans but they will come back. They have a system in place that we dont have. Without the system you don't win world cups.

We might go back and forth with the windies but that's because windies almost all of the time won't have their 100% squad due to various T20 leagues.

What can I say about Zim, they are our dancing partners, BCB's go to team. But mass public in BD now understands what BCB goons plan with Zim. You'll see crowd not coming when Zim tours and BCB plans are going to fall flat
 
25 years isn't soon enough?, I don't dream anymore. What couldn't be done in 25 years is not going to be done in next 25
We have seen in front of us how Bangladesh have transformed from Khalid Mahmud and Muhammad Rafique type of players to Mashrafe, Shakib type. It is a big change and more will come.

I think your board is however worse than the PCB and your players are more toxic than Pakistanis. Shakib is a great player but seems smug and obnoxious. The fans let him get away with too much picking and choosing of when to play and where to play.

I think Bangladesh should go down the same route as Pakistan. We and you don't have the resources to fight on many fronts. You should also abandon FC cricket, completely stop worrying about tests and focus on one day and T20 cricket.
 
Who hype us other than our fans? Most of the hypers fans you see are from social media and most likely 15 years old.

General public in BD calls our team Mayer dua cricket team. That means this team can only win if all the mothers in BD prey. This is the hype this team gets in Bangladesh
Its the hype of the fans, and tbh its not just 15 yo. I have ghosted periodically Bangla cricket forum when it was operational for a few year and the hype was unrealistic over a 10 year window, and you would have thought the 15 yo would have wisened up by the time they were 25, but nope, still the same hype and arrogance.

Can only relate to my experience.
 
Its the hype of the fans, and tbh its not just 15 yo. I have ghosted periodically Bangla cricket forum when it was operational for a few year and the hype was unrealistic over a 10 year window, and you would have thought the 15 yo would have wisened up by the time they were 25, but nope, still the same hype and arrogance.

Can only relate to my experience.
It's not a bad thing. They pack out their stadiums and still cheer for the team.

I think Indians are a bit more triggered by them perhaps the same way that Pakistanis are by Afghans ( although Afghans have violently assaulted women and children in matches).
 
IMO Mindset and big ego , here in west lot of pakistanis and indians (mainly Punjabis, pathans, south indians) , keep them in atheltic shape , but I rarely see banglas , doing that. I have seen many showing very arrogant mindset regrading changing their carb heavy diets and all that. I have seen bangla students in struggling phases , spending too much cooking. Its wierd to me as an outisder. Also they are always in group, which IMO , play a big role in lack of indivisual developments of new mindsets.
 
BD's ranking in cricket currently fluctuates between #7 and #9. That's their position.

1) They are generally too good for likes of Zimbabwe, Ireland, and associates.
2) They generally can put up a fight against likes of Pakistan, SL, Windies, South Africa, NZ, and Afghanistan.
3) They generally get blown away against India, England, and Australia.

That's where BD is currently in world cricket.
 
I'm not sure about other sports but they really suck at T20 cricket for some reason.

I really wonder why that is because they have some handy players on paper.
 
BD's ranking in cricket currently fluctuates between #7 and #9. That's their position.

1) They are generally too good for likes of Zimbabwe, Ireland, and associates.
2) They generally can put up a fight against likes of Pakistan, SL, Windies, South Africa, NZ, and Afghanistan.
3) They generally get blown away against India, England, and Australia.

That's where BD is currently in world cricket.
Maybe in ODI cricket but they suck at t20 man. I think Ireland, Zimbabwe and associates like Scotland, USA, Oman and Hong Kong could go toe to toe with Afghans in most days.
 
Maybe in ODI cricket but they suck at t20 man. I think Ireland, Zimbabwe and associates like Scotland, USA, Oman and Hong Kong could go toe to toe with Afghans in most days.


I meant all 3 formats combined. BD's ranking fluctuates between #7 and #9.

T20 is definitely BD's weakest format but they somehow made it to Super 8 of last World T20.
 
I'm not sure about other sports but they really suck at T20 cricket for some reason.

I really wonder why that is because they have some handy players on paper.

Yes. T20 is definitely BD's weakest format. Always have been.

I believe right players are not being selected. That is one reason.

I think they need to make wholesale changes in T20 team and come up with a new team.
 
It is sheer incompetency by BCCI. Next time We should have our U-19 team play with them or just invite them for "net practice" for our women team.
 
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Yes. T20 is definitely BD's weakest format. Always have been.

I believe right players are not being selected. That is one reason.

I think they need to make wholesale changes in T20 team and come up with a new team.
Do you mean to say that Banglas are better in Tests with a W/L ratio of 0.2 or ODIs with a W/L ratio of 0.59 over T20Is where you have a W/L ratio 0.641.
I am not sure if certain meat diet affects simple maths. :geek::murali
 
Bangladesh has done remarkable in 2024. So i will give it to them for defeating Pakistan in Pakistan. Whitewashing them is a good effort. Losing to India shouldn't discourage them because beating India in India is not an easy task for every team. They should try to beat teams like SRilanka in SL, WI in WI.
 
Bangladesh is 4th or 5th best team in Asia. What else can you expect from them? They did a great job in Pakistan beating them at home on those flat wickets but in India, it was spin heaven and they lost. Now in T20s, they are not just good enough to beat India anyway.
 
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Bangladesh is 4th or 5th best team in Asia. What else can you expect from them? They did a great job in Pakistan beating them at home on those flat wickets but in India, it was spin heaven and they lost. Now in T20s, they are not just good enough to beat India anyway.
Going from the "worst" to "almost worst" in the worst Sporting region of the world is hardly an achievement.
 
Bangladesh is 4th or 5th best team in Asia. What else can you expect from them? They did a great job in Pakistan beating them at home on those flat wickets but in India, it was spin heaven and they lost. Now in T20s, they are not just good enough to beat India anyway.
Wickets in india were not as flat as the ones in Pak. They hv never been so. But they were not exactly spin heaven. Ind played 3 genuine pacers & 2 spin ARs in both the tests. And the wicket sharing pattern was almost 50 50 in both tests. (Except the 2nd test 2nd inning in which BD collapsed mostly against spin)
 
IMO Mindset and big ego , here in west lot of pakistanis and indians (mainly Punjabis, pathans, south indians) , keep them in atheltic shape , but I rarely see banglas , doing that. I have seen many showing very arrogant mindset regrading changing their carb heavy diets and all that. I have seen bangla students in struggling phases , spending too much cooking. Its wierd to me as an outisder. Also they are always in group, which IMO , play a big role in lack of indivisual developments of new mindsets.
That is what I have noticed too. Always saw them hanging out in a group of 10 and more.
 
Yes, yes, YESSS… Haturusinghe the pathetic coach who assaulted a player has been sacked! Thank God!

Now get rid of Haturusinghe backroom staffs. Bring back Alland Donald as bowling coach who actually cared for BD bowling, did tremendous work with them.
 
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