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Without the IPL, Umran Malik would have been in the wilderness

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Before he played the IPL Umran Malik was unknown. Hardly or no hype about him. Just played two domestic matches.

After 2 IPL matches he is the hottest commodity in indian cricket right now. BCCI likely to take him under their wings, so that J and K team doesn't run him to the ground.

Most likely a million dollar IPL contract beckons him next.

Remember, same happened to Varun Chakravarty as well. IPL got him into the Indian team.
 
And Sam Curran would have been available for his country in the T20 World Cup.
 
Before he played the IPL Umran Malik was unknown. Hardly or no hype about him. Just played two domestic matches.

After 2 IPL matches he is the hottest commodity in indian cricket right now. BCCI likely to take him under their wings, so that J and K team doesn't run him to the ground.

Most likely a million dollar IPL contract beckons him next.

Remember, same happened to Varun Chakravarty as well. IPL got him into the Indian team.

Yeah the IP has lots of rags to riches tales and if it inspires the next generation of Indian cricketers to sit up and get noticed then it can only be a good thing.

But surely you see the problem with a player getting a multi-million dollar deal on the basis of 2 matches?

What if in the next 2 he goes for 12 runs per over?

Too much fame too early can go to a players head.
 
And Sam Curran would have been available for his country in the T20 World Cup.

Injuries can happen anywhere and anytime, its part and parcel of the game. International cricket is not immune to injuries.

Point is IPL is giving platform to young bidding cricketers from every nook and corner of India which is brilliant to see. There is a video Rashid Khan shared on twitter about how emotional Umran was and how much this opportunity meant to him.
 
Injuries can happen anywhere and anytime, its part and parcel of the game. International cricket is not immune to injuries.

Point is IPL is giving platform to young bidding cricketers from every nook and corner of India which is brilliant to see.
There is a video Rashid Khan shared on twitter about how emotional Umran was and how much this opportunity meant to him.

This is not international cricket. Curran was not playing for his country when he got injured.

I do agree with the nook and cranny part.
 
Yeah the IP has lots of rags to riches tales and if it inspires the next generation of Indian cricketers to sit up and get noticed then it can only be a good thing.

But surely you see the problem with a player getting a multi-million dollar deal on the basis of 2 matches?

What if in the next 2 he goes for 12 runs per over?

Too much fame too early can go to a players head.

Well bowling 95mph at age 21 is a rare talent. A talent like that deserves the rewards. Tbh Lesser people have got more money in the IPL
 
This is not international cricket. Curran was not playing for his country when he got injured.

I do agree with the nook and cranny part.

Many cricketers play the IPL by skipping international series of lesser importance because playing at the venue of the T20 WC against most of the cricket stars is considered one of the best ways to get into the groove.

Injuries can happen when you play a sport. Sam Curran and ECB both agreed to his participation in the IPL.

Tell me honestly bro, would you have complained if Pakistani players were playing the IPL in uae today and getting much needed match time against international players at the world t20 venues?
 
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Well bowling 95mph at age 21 is a rare talent. A talent like that deserves the rewards. Tbh Lesser people have got more money in the IPL

He should be nurtured and supported long term so his talent can be cultivated to play for a long time for India. That should be the aim of the BCCI and hopefully him also.

It seems like he will be made a poster boy to make political points but I hope for his sake that he is given the chance to develop and flourish as a player first.
 
This is not international cricket. Curran was not playing for his country when he got injured.

I do agree with the nook and cranny part.

No what I meant was injuries can happen anywhere. So to blame IPL for Sam Curran's unavailability for T20 world cup is wrong. Just bcoz there is a world cup to follow, players cant hide themselves in their room fearing injuries. Its just unfortunate that Curran got injured which happened to be while playing in IPL.

On a seperate note, dont think England will miss him much considering him form :P
 
He should be nurtured and supported long term so his talent can be cultivated to play for a long time for India. That should be the aim of the BCCI and hopefully him also.

It seems like he will be made a poster boy to make political points but I hope for his sake that he is given the chance to develop and flourish as a player first.

Naah dont think there will be any political point scoring.

He bowls 95mph that itself should get him into the A team.
 
Absolutely right. IPL is a massive platform for talented cricketers like Abdul Samad and Umran Malik to showcase the world the kind of talent that they have got.

The reason why posters here are talking about Umran Malik today is because of IPL. All hail the IPL, the biggest league in the world with iconic teams like Mumbai Indians, Chennai Super kings and Royal Challengers Bangalore.

Hopefully, IPL will continue producing many more talented cricketers and remain the biggest cricket league of all-time.
 
And Sam Curran would have been available for his country in the T20 World Cup.

What happened to him? Injured? I think once a player simply injured by door knob :yk.. So you can't blame ipl for injury..
 
If Umran was a Pakistani and did such bowling in PSL, we would had given him a Pakistani cap by now....

Good to see India will develop him before even thinking about adding him to the team.
 
The people who deserve credit are the ones who spotted him and signed him up for the IPL.
 
If Umran was a Pakistani and did such bowling in PSL, we would had given him a Pakistani cap by now....

Good to see India will develop him before even thinking about adding him to the team.


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If Umran was a Pakistani and did such bowling in PSL, we would have had played test cricket for Pakistan by now and media would have projected him as a next captain..
 
Also I think this is quite sad that even in India, if you get televised than that means you get a career, or else you would stay in wilderness.

This is not something to be proud about, but just shows how bad things are that talented players who play cricket in India dont get recognized. BCCI is very rich, dont the associations have scouts going around?

If a country like India, where the BCCI makes alot of money in cricket, faces the problem that cricketers would be in wilderness without IPL no matter what, than that shows how bad things are at Indias grass root.
 
Also I think this is quite sad that even in India, if you get televised than that means you get a career, or else you would stay in wilderness.

This is not something to be proud about, but just shows how bad things are that talented players who play cricket in India dont get recognized. BCCI is very rich, dont the associations have scouts going around?

If a country like India, where the BCCI makes alot of money in cricket, faces the problem that cricketers would be in wilderness without IPL no matter what, than that shows how bad things are at Indias grass root.

There are scouts too hence you see players like Hanuma Vihari play for the national side despite never having played an IPL game.
 
Lolz , OP overhyping a nothing bowler z let him play, let's hope he does not become another Indian medium pacer.
 
Also I think this is quite sad that even in India, if you get televised than that means you get a career, or else you would stay in wilderness.

This is not something to be proud about, but just shows how bad things are that talented players who play cricket in India dont get recognized. BCCI is very rich, dont the associations have scouts going around?

If a country like India, where the BCCI makes alot of money in cricket, faces the problem that cricketers would be in wilderness without IPL no matter what, than that shows how bad things are at Indias grass root.

Nowhere is perfect. At least kids like this will have something to aim for. I'd imagine its a lot more laborious to get into the domestic FC culture and theres probably an element of nepotism invovled in securing first class gigs.

The IPL can launch people straight into the limelight. I wish the PSL would take more risks instead of having the same tried and tested failures over and over again.
 
Nowhere is perfect. At least kids like this will have something to aim for. I'd imagine its a lot more laborious to get into the domestic FC culture and theres probably an element of nepotism invovled in securing first class gigs.

The IPL can launch people straight into the limelight. I wish the PSL would take more risks instead of having the same tried and tested failures over and over again.

There are perfect systems. The sports leagues of north america is perfect as proper scouting is done of all the potential player at school level.

The fact that before ipl players are in wilderness just shows how bad it is in india even after having the richest board ever
 
There are perfect systems. The sports leagues of north america is perfect as proper scouting is done of all the potential player at school level.

The fact that before ipl players are in wilderness just shows how bad it is in india even after having the richest board ever

No systems are perfect... im sure good player get missed because they dont show up at a given time... india has a great system for circket. Your just bias
 
No systems are perfect... im sure good player get missed because they dont show up at a given time... india has a great system for circket. Your just bias

How am i biased? The op himself said wilderness....

Im just surprised that the worlds richest board still has players that are in the wilderness. They cant even scout the best talent.

North america has a perfect system. They have schol ncca tournaments and keep track of performances and have scouts around to help get their team the best player
 
How am i biased? The op himself said wilderness....

Im just surprised that the worlds richest board still has players that are in the wilderness. They cant even scout the best talent.

North america has a perfect system. They have schol ncca tournaments and keep track of performances and have scouts around to help get their team the best player

Youth sports culture in US is amazing, but parents and boosters also spend a lot of money to get their kids noticed. For big money sports like football and basketball there is a ranking system for high school kids, but that ranking is done by third party. In US there is a pipeline kids start at local community parks which are pipelines for high school, high schools are pipelines for colleges and colleges are pipelines for NFL, NBA and MLB.
You can't compare that with India where IPL started just 13 years ago and even now youth sport culture is very limited. Also kids peak at different age levels, some can peak too early and fizz out while others are late bloomers. Who knows, may be Umran may not have been anything special couple years ago.
We have IMG academy here in Florida where the tution is $84,000/year, but if you are a star football or basketball player its fully paid for. It's going to take years for countries like to India to catch up to US standards in sports.
 
Bowled quite a few balls over 150 today with one of them clocking 153! Deserves a million dollar contract just for enabling fans to chest thump and say that we too have red hot pace bowlers!
 
Wow, what a talent , cricket needs exciting talents like him.

Yes, IPL has given him the platform he needed, now sky is the limit for him.
 
How am i biased? The op himself said wilderness....

Im just surprised that the worlds richest board still has players that are in the wilderness. They cant even scout the best talent.

North america has a perfect system. They have schol ncca tournaments and keep track of performances and have scouts around to help get their team the best player

You can't compare America with India but India has a decent system in place for cricket, you have to be biased against India to not admit it. India is too chaotic and lazy to have a automated ranked database of available players like west but things are in work. Son of sweeper of my colony plays Ranji trophy. He was dirt poor. He now lives better life than me. We played cricket together in teenage years in local park. Coach of our local cricket club noticed him and offered him membership of his club. Funny thing is we only played tennis ball cricket. He got free club membership without any experience with red ball cricket. He never had to pay for any training/equipment. There are 100% scholarships for needy people. My cousin plays for U17 at state level, he failed to make it to U19 at national level but he admitted that those who got selected were better. There was no parchi player selected. Also, there are strict tests to weed out drugs/ age fudging at junior level. There are stories like Navdeep Saini, Umesh Yadav, Yajaswi Jaiswal, Munaf Patel etc who were dirt poor and cricket changed their life.
 
And Sam Curran would have been available for his country in the T20 World Cup.

Not sure what the point of this comment is. He could have gotten injured anywhere. Also he is a poor T20 player, and this might be a blessing in disguise for England.
 
Absolutely right. IPL is a massive platform for talented cricketers like Abdul Samad and Umran Malik to showcase the world the kind of talent that they have got.

The reason why posters here are talking about Umran Malik today is because of IPL. All hail the IPL, the biggest league in the world with iconic teams like Mumbai Indians, Chennai Super kings and Royal Challengers Bangalore.

Hopefully, IPL will continue producing many more talented cricketers and remain the biggest cricket league of all-time.

Great stars in RCB but a failure.
Ironic not Iconic
 
How am i biased? The op himself said wilderness....

Im just surprised that the worlds richest board still has players that are in the wilderness. They cant even scout the best talent.

North america has a perfect system. They have schol ncca tournaments and keep track of performances and have scouts around to help get their team the best player

By wilderness, it means unending sessions in Domestic cricket.
He got fast tracked because of IPL.

It doesn't mean things are bad in grassroots, just that it is a slower and more intense process.
 
Lolz , OP overhyping a nothing bowler z let him play, let's hope he does not become another Indian medium pacer.

Well the hype and reward scenario will ensure that more young kids take up pace bowling.
So why not?
 
There were talented players even before IPL and are outside IPL as well. The 2 phrases "IPL gives platform to young cricketers from every nook and corner of India " and the "players are able to rub shoulders with the best in game" are perhaps mentioned atleast 10 times by commentators during each game, so much so that it feels nauseous now to hear that. Unfortunate bit is that gullible fans latch on to all the marketing ploys of IPL.

Inspite of all the verbal theatrics, India hasn't won a single T20 WC trophy since IPL inception. If it was such high quality tournament then such so called out-of-the-world talent would have won them alteast one T20 WC in 14 years. I would say that with the amount of importance IPL gets in the international calendar, it is almost embarrassing to watch India failing in every WC.

To the point of players becoming rich, i just don't understand fans' enthusiasm about it. If 10-20 new Indian players become millionaire every year, then what's their to celebrate about, it's not that those 10 players will eradicate poverty in India. You have ordinary players like Negi who became millionaire overnight, so i am unable to see why should fans get excited if Negi buys a mansion somewhere.

And finally, IPL has made the game completely commercial, which no one in his right mind should feel elated about. International players and teams chucking international games to play in IPL doesn't bring any honor to the game. You have commentators taunting players on TV, when they don't perform well, by talking about their paychecks is abhorring and shows lack of class. You have international players singing praises of ordinary Indian talent often, just because their team's commerce demands that.

Every now and then, an Umar Malik or a Negi would become rich and it's good for them, but i don't see how that serves any good to the larger interest of the game.
 
Not sure what the point of this comment is. He could have gotten injured anywhere. Also he is a poor T20 player, and this might be a blessing in disguise for England.

The point of the comment is that IPL isnt all nobility that it pretends to be for ALL people.

England chose Curran for a reason and now he is not available for them for national duty.

That is the point.
 
There were talented players even before IPL and are outside IPL as well. The 2 phrases "IPL gives platform to young cricketers from every nook and corner of India " and the "players are able to rub shoulders with the best in game" are perhaps mentioned atleast 10 times by commentators during each game, so much so that it feels nauseous now to hear that. Unfortunate bit is that gullible fans latch on to all the marketing ploys of IPL.

Inspite of all the verbal theatrics, India hasn't won a single T20 WC trophy since IPL inception. If it was such high quality tournament then such so called out-of-the-world talent would have won them alteast one T20 WC in 14 years. I would say that with the amount of importance IPL gets in the international calendar, it is almost embarrassing to watch India failing in every WC.

To the point of players becoming rich, i just don't understand fans' enthusiasm about it. If 10-20 new Indian players become millionaire every year, then what's their to celebrate about, it's not that those 10 players will eradicate poverty in India. You have ordinary players like Negi who became millionaire overnight, so i am unable to see why should fans get excited if Negi buys a mansion somewhere.

And finally, IPL has made the game completely commercial, which no one in his right mind should feel elated about. International players and teams chucking international games to play in IPL doesn't bring any honor to the game. You have commentators taunting players on TV, when they don't perform well, by talking about their paychecks is abhorring and shows lack of class. You have international players singing praises of ordinary Indian talent often, just because their team's commerce demands that.

Every now and then, an Umar Malik or a Negi would become rich and it's good for them, but i don't see how that serves any good to the larger interest of the game.

Give it time mate.
I agree that we could do less with the commentators repeating those two comments every minute on air.
About India not winning T20 WC so far, you know that every country has an T20 league and their players are also in IPL and polishing their skills.

Why is IPL important to India now?
If you see the size of India and the number of cricketers, there is only one way to sustain these cricketers. Cricket in India has to lean inwards and hence IPL is very important for India and its cricket scene and this is not just financially.
Life was previously very hard for cricketers financially and chances were very few. IPL only increases the talent pool in India for selectors and after that still a lot of work needs to be done to ensure India wins a world cup. Maybe we have solved the first part, second remains to be done.
 
The point of the comment is that IPL isnt all nobility that it pretends to be for ALL people.

England chose Curran for a reason and now he is not available for them for national duty.

That is the point.

What if IPL was not there & Sam Curran got injured playing county cricket

Wud u blame county cricket then ?
 
What if IPL was not there & Sam Curran got injured playing county cricket

Wud u blame county cricket then ?

It would have been foolish to put World Cup squad members through a rigorous tournament before the main one

Btw same applies to Pakistan ones playing in Nat T20 - especially bowlers like SSA.
 
Actually Pakistan fans should be the last one to blame IPL for international cricketers prioritizing IPL over international games because Pakistan started this culture. Baring the Packer series, which was still one-off, it was Pakistani cricketers in 90s who used to miss international games to play in county on a very regular basis from akram to saqlain to Akhtar. Somehow, that never bothered Pakistani fans.
 
Looks like a very good, fit bowler.

Well done to whoever that unearthed him
 
Yeah the IP has lots of rags to riches tales and if it inspires the next generation of Indian cricketers to sit up and get noticed then it can only be a good thing.

But surely you see the problem with a player getting a multi-million dollar deal on the basis of 2 matches?

What if in the next 2 he goes for 12 runs per over?

Too much fame too early can go to a players head.

Or he could develop the attitude of a true professional and get much better. Money also helps take away other worries and help professionals focus on getting better.
 
India are leading in the pace wars now

Pakistan do not have a bowler who will consistently bowl over 150. Plenty of these 145-148 bowlers who have their odd spell of pace but not this kind of express.
 
Actually Pakistan fans should be the last one to blame IPL for international cricketers prioritizing IPL over international games because Pakistan started this culture. Baring the Packer series, which was still one-off, it was Pakistani cricketers in 90s who used to miss international games to play in county on a very regular basis from akram to saqlain to Akhtar. Somehow, that never bothered Pakistani fans.

And all the big Pak stars went to play Hong Kong sixes. It's money money
 
India are leading in the pace wars now

Pakistan do not have a bowler who will consistently bowl over 150. Plenty of these 145-148 bowlers who have their odd spell of pace but not this kind of express.
Didn’t Hasnain,Rauf and Naseem Shah bowl at similar pace at T20s?
 
Didn’t Hasnain,Rauf and Naseem Shah bowl at similar pace at T20s?

They may have hit 150 but they certainly cannot bowl 150+ consistently. They have good speed but not express like Nortje and Ferguson
 
The people who deserve credit are the ones who spotted him and signed him up for the IPL.

Yes incredible scouting indeed. IPL has transformed Indian cricket completely.

A pity it has also made their test batting stocks terrible.
 
Many cricketers play the IPL by skipping international series of lesser importance because playing at the venue of the T20 WC against most of the cricket stars is considered one of the best ways to get into the groove.

Injuries can happen when you play a sport. Sam Curran and ECB both agreed to his participation in the IPL.

Tell me honestly bro, would you have complained if Pakistani players were playing the IPL in uae today and getting much needed match time against international players at the world t20 venues?

No Pakistani sitting here will say that they wouldn't want to see Pakistani players participating in the IPL.

I can assure you of that.
 
Excellent prospect. Seems to be an intelligent bowler. Hit right lengths consistently.

One to be nurtured into a quality international bowler.

Oooh and the action! smooth like Waqar Younis!!
 
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