Would New Zealand cricket be justified in ending cricket ties with Pakistan cricket?

[Aman]

Interested to see what neutrals think given how PCB officials and players have been instigating hate towards NZ, NZC and the players. With Hafeez recently being another posting a smarky comment about security which is only going to perpetuate this even more.

Pakistani's have been invading NZ social media feeds and been harassing and abusing NZ for the last few days.

It's a fair question to ask given the lack of professionalism show by the PCB so far. How would you react if your country was in the same position?

 

[ahsan17]

Amazing that NZers can pretend to be victims after all this. The gall, I must say. It's not surprising in some ways, given how overly diplomatic the PCB has been with these few boards that these people can think they can pull something like this and pretend to be victims.

 

[Aman]

Amazing that NZers can pretend to be victims after all this. The gall, I must say. It's not surprising in some ways, given how overly diplomatic the PCB has been with these few boards that these people can think they can pull something like this and pretend to be victims.

Sorry, the victims are clearly Pakistani fans who wont be able to watch cricket in Pakistan for a few months, not the NZ players whose lives were reportedly at risk.

This is exactly the attitude I'm fed up with, our country is getting flamed and trolled online by people like you who have taken this cancelled tour way too personally. At the end of the day, it's just a game of cricket.

 

[Buffet]

Interested to see what neutrals think given how PCB officials and players have been instigating hate towards NZ, NZC and the players. With Hafeez recently being another posting a smarky comment about security which is only going to perpetuate this even more.

Pakistani's have been invading NZ social media feeds and been harassing and abusing NZ for the last few days.

It's a fair question to ask given the lack of professionalism show by the PCB so far. How would you react if your country was in the same position?

Nah, it's just the frustration of fans. Simply ignore. It's bad to see Pakistani cricketers putting down fellow NZ cricketers.

PCB should ask Pakistani cricketers to take a break from Twitter and officials should do the same. Even if you want to show your frustration, you can do it much more nicely after few days.

Anyway, these tweets are not justification for ending the ties. The best action is to ignore. If we start ending ties based on online abuse then the entire world won't have relationships with each other.

 

[Snatch]

Unbelievable lack of professionalism. When you get their chief of Cricket tweeting like a spiteful teenager. Could you imagine high levels officials' from England or New Zealand tweeting away in that style. Very little more embarrassing than professional adults posting like children.

 

[ahsan17]

Sorry, the victims are clearly Pakistani fans who wont be able to watch cricket in Pakistan for a few months, not the NZ players whose lives were reportedly at risk.

This is exactly the attitude I'm fed up with, our country is getting flamed and trolled online by people like you who have taken this cancelled tour way too personally. At the end of the day, it's just a game of cricket.

Anyone can pretend their lives were at risk based on the way NZ handled it. They didn't give any information about the supposed threat. OTOH, the financial and reputational losses for PCB are far more. If anyone should be ending the relationship it should be Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

End ties by all means. Please get lost. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[gazza619]

You must be having a laugh Aman!

Backstab and then pretend to play the victim. What goes around comes around mate.

 

[akbarm96]

We should forget this debacle now, we should move on now considering nothing really happened there... they are expected to return for a full tour next year anyway, we should be focusing on hosting England and if England does come and so does Australia come, trust me NZ will also come too

 

[DeadlyVenom]

There should be no neutrals in this issue.

Either you stand against terrorism in all its guises, or you pick and choose your battles.

New Zealand helped murder Afghanis next door, indirectly contributed to the situation in Pakistan and are now taking the moral high ground.

In the last 5 years more people of Pakistani origin have been killed in NZ, than westerners in PK.

Once you wrap your head around the above you will understand why Pakistani players are angry.

 

[Snatch]

Anyone can pretend their lives were at risk based on the way NZ handled it. They didn't give any information about the supposed threat. OTOH, the financial and reputational losses for PCB are far more. If anyone should be ending the relationship it should be Pakistan.

They're not obliged to share i5 eyes alliance intelligence. What makes you think NZ get to make that decision if for example it came for the US and the US didn't want it shared with Pakistan?

 

[Aman]

Nah, it's just the frustration of fans. Simply ignore. It's bad to see Pakistani cricketers putting down fellow NZ cricketers.

PCB should ask Pakistani cricketers to take a break from Twitter and officials should do the same. Even if you want to show your frustration, you can do it much more nicely after few days.

Anyway, these tweets are not justification for ending the ties. The best action is to ignore. If we start ending ties based on online abuse then the entire world won't have relationships with each other.

Easier said than done.

Look at the comments already. Not so easy to ignore. We apparently backstabbed them )

I've seen so many Pakistani's tweet out pictures of the silver fern stabbing the PCB logo

Why should NZC and their fans have to put up with this?

 

[volcyz]

Salty tears by crazy shortsighted fanatic Pakistani fans is hilarious, enjoying the cryfest with lots of klennex tissues and popcorn.

It’s amazing how many of the comments are braindead and blind hatred runs through the less educated.

 

[sweep_shot]

No. It would not be justified.

New Zealand created this mess in the first place. They wasted Pakistan's time and resources.

Also, social media is never a nice place to begin with. It is always abusive.

 

[Snatch]

What goes around comes around mate.

What does this even mean in this context? Are you plotting a revenge? Get a life, go for a walk or something.... some fresh air perhaps. We all love cricket, but it is just a sport at the end of the day.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Easier said than done.

Look at the comments already. Not so easy to ignore. We apparently back stabbed them )

I've seen so many Pakistani's tweet out pictures of the silver fern stabbing the PCB logo

Why should NZC and their fans have to put up with this?

You are willingly subjecting yourself to this.

If this matter is affecting your mental health, log off and go for some fresh air.

As you say, its only a game of cricket. No need to make so many posts.

 

[ahsan17]

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In the last 5 years more people of Pakistani origin have been killed in NZ, than westerners in PK.

Once you wrap your head around the above you will understand why Pakistani players are angry.

That's a very important point. A few other things to note.

In the last 3-4 years, Pakistan has statistically been more safer than the times teams used to regularly visit Pakistan.

There are plenty of western targets if necessary, in terms of the **** load of vloggers that have visited Pakistan in the last few years. Yet none of them bailed due to security concerns or had security issues.

 

[Aman]

You are willingly subjecting yourself to this.

If this matter is affecting your mental health, log off and go for some fresh air.

As you say, its only a game of cricket. No need to make so many posts.

You're probably right, should let this die down and things to become clear. It's been hard to ignore in lockdown, haven't been able to get out of the house much

 

[Rana]

Yeah,

End ties by all means. Backstabbers!

 

[Savak]

Lol at a 5 million nation threatening to do anything to a 220 million nation. Don't even have the balls to make the intelligence threat public and to prove its credibility. For now clearly the NZCB fabricated the entire event and will have to suffer the consequences

 

[Savak]

Full power to Hafeez, Pakistani players and Ramiz Raja. NZ cricket board is no Big 3. They should be reminded of their place

 

[ahsan17]

They're not obliged to share i5 eyes alliance intelligence. What makes you think NZ get to make that decision if for example it came for the US and the US didn't want it shared with Pakistan?

Because it sets a dangerous precedent. Anyone can say we have information and we can't share it. Anyone can accuse anyone, but say we can't share the proof. They don't have to provide how they received the intelligence but the nature of the threat. They haven't even done that.

 

[Snatch]

Lol at a 5 million nation threatening to do anything to a 220 million nation. Don't even have the balls to make the intelligence threat public and to prove its credibility. For now clearly the NZCB fabricated the entire event and will have to suffer the consequences

What consequences are you alluding to?

 

[Buffet]

We should forget this debacle now, we should move on now considering nothing really happened there... they are expected to return for a full tour next year anyway, we should be focusing on hosting England and if England does come and so does Australia come, trust me NZ will also come too

+1

It is much better to react maturely. Other teams will then have more confidence that if they have to pull out of Pakistan due to risk then they won't be abused. If this is the expected behavior of fellow cricketers and officials then it won't encourage all teams to visit.

Cricketers and officials making inciting statements will make the situation worse. Acting maturely will be more helpful. Frustration can be shown by putting the same message in a different language. I am just talking about cricketers and officials. You can't do anything about fans, but cricketers and officials putting inciting statements will affect fans as well.

 

[Titan24]

As laughable a thread as NZ’s theatrics.

You havent seen tweets from neutral cricketers, commenters as well as your own commenters?

Yeah you are the victim. Please end the ties but, pay for the damages first. Thanks for coming.

 

[Rana]

New Zealand is the biggest farce on earth

What purpose does it serve to the world? Why can’t it just be an extra Island of Australia? Most useless country with a pointless intelligence agency acting like the US

 

[Savak]

What consequences are you alluding to?

The full wrath of a nation being under estimated

 

[Rana]

Boring country

Boring people


Boring overseas diaspora

Just merge with Australia and become an extra state! Deep down they are equally as racist from within

 

[Mamoon]

Bear in mind that we are the most delusional and emotional nation in the world with an unmatched victim mentality.

I apologize to New Zealand for the behavior of Pakistanis over the last two days. Truly embarrassing and sickening.

As a nation, we have completely lost our marbles. [MENTION=142156]Snatch[/MENTION] is pretty much the only Pakistani poster on this forum who has made sense over the past couple of days.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

No offense but NZC is not even 30% financially strong as PCB.

Breaking ties with Pakistan won't hurt PAK cricket as much as NZ who'll lose a 220 million market LOL

WI are scheduled to tour in December iA so all this nonsense about Pakistan being unsafe will be put to rest.

 

[Rana]

Why create a dumb thread to further insult your own country?

 

[JaDed]

New Zealand is the biggest farce on earth

What purpose does it serve to the world? Why can’t it just be an extra Island of Australia? Most useless country with a pointless intelligence agency acting like the US

Incorrect, they contribute a lot per capita in various areas.

 

[Mamoon]

And yes, New Zealand would be fully justified to cut ties with Pakistan cricket. We are clearly not worth the trouble and the attention.

New Zealand doesn’t lose out anything by boycotting Pakistan cricket. We are a nothing team.

 

[Snatch]

Because it sets a dangerous precedent. Anyone can say we have information and we can't share it. Anyone can accuse anyone, but say we can't share the proof. They don't have to provide how they received the intelligence but the nature of the threat. They haven't even done that.

Whether you like it or not, all that matters is how the NZ govt perceived the threats received, coupled with the advice from their trusted partners, the 5 eyes.

This would very unlikely be the case where only NZ felt the threat was serious, and their Brit, US, Canadian and Aust counterparts did not, so not sure all the blame has to go on NZ only.

 

[Aman]

Bear in mind that we are the most delusional and emotional nation in the world with an unmatched victim mentality.

I apologize to New Zealand for the behavior of Pakistanis over the last two days. Truly embarrassing and sickening.

As a nation, we have completely lost our marbles. [MENTION=142156]Snatch[/MENTION] is pretty much the only Pakistani poster on this forum who has made sense over the past couple of days.

Thanks, much appreciated.

Our social media feeds are being flamed and trolled like crazy. Our presence on social media is pretty much non existent. It's been hard to ignore as an active twitter user. I've never seen such level of hate for NZ before, we're small and inconsequential that we're never been a topic of interest in any field.

 

[ahsan17]

Bear in mind that we are the most delusional and emotional nation in the world with an unmatched victim mentality.

I apologize to New Zealand for the behavior of Pakistanis over the last two days. Truly embarrassing and sickening.

As a nation, we have completely lost our marbles. [MENTION=142156]Snatch[/MENTION] is pretty much the only Pakistani poster on this forum who has made sense over the past couple of days.

It's quite clear Snatch is an Indian based on the talking points used that only Indians tend to use.

 

[SM1989]

Nope New Zealand is not the victim here. Like most westerners they are entitled people who value white lives more than brown lives. If there was a threat, then Pakistani players were also at risk, yet no information was shared with Pakistan govt.

New Zealand are clearly in the wrong here and deserve all the bashing they are getting.

 

[Snatch]

The full wrath of a nation being under estimated

What does this even mean? Are you wanting to resort to violence? what exactly are you intimating?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Why create a dumb thread to further insult your own country?

Just a cheap trolling attempt.

There are very few neutrals on this site.

Most are Pak origin or Indian origin.

And you know what kind of posts the Indian 'neutrals' are going to make.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Interested to see what neutrals think given how PCB officials and players have been instigating hate towards NZ, NZC and the players. With Hafeez recently being another posting a smarky comment about security which is only going to perpetuate this even more.

Pakistani's have been invading NZ social media feeds and been harassing and abusing NZ for the last few days.

It's a fair question to ask given the lack of professionalism show by the PCB so far. How would you react if your country was in the same position?

Look whose talking about unprofessionalism

PCB did less in my opinion.

It should sue this weak board and drain it's already scarce resources.

This NZC and their players need to man up. They're nothing but chickens.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You're probably right, should let this die down and things to become clear. It's been hard to ignore in lockdown, haven't been able to get out of the house much

Why are you still here? Can't you take your own advice?

 

[ahsan17]

Thanks, much appreciated.

Our social media feeds are being flamed and trolled like crazy. Our presence on social media is pretty much non existent. It's been hard to ignore as an active twitter user. I've never seen such level of hate for NZ before, we're small and inconsequential that we're never been a topic of interest in any field.

Happy that you got sympathy from someone who basically opposes whatever Pakistan does. If the same thing were happening in reverse he would be talking about how's it's PCB fault for putting themselves in this position. The guy is a hypocrite through and through, but good on you for finding a sympathizer in him.

 

[Aman]

Boring country

Boring people


Boring overseas diaspora

Just merge with Australia and become an extra state! Deep down they are equally as racist from within

Tbf it does get boring after living in Auckland for a while - traffic is awful most parts of the day and the house prices are sky high. There's some great places to retire and explore for natural beauty but in your 20s you start to get bored here and want to explore new and bigger places outside of NZ.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Thanks, much appreciated.

Our social media feeds are being flamed and trolled like crazy. Our presence on social media is pretty much non existent. It's been hard to ignore as an active twitter user. I've never seen such level of hate for NZ before, we're small and inconsequential that we're never been a topic of interest in any field.

They deserve it. IMO Pak fans and board should grill NZ even more. What a bunch of losers these people are!

Makes me so content that I supported ENG in the final against this choker nation.

 

[ManFan]

Laughable thread. Really.

Security threats? That’s understandable.

But blatant disrespect of your host is not. And on top of that, criticizing them for being upset.

 

[Aman]

Why are you still here? Can't you take your own advice?

Still have some time to kill before I head out.

 

[Snatch]

Boring country

Boring people


Boring overseas diaspora

Just merge with Australia and become an extra state! Deep down they are equally as racist from within

New Zealand is consistently voted amongst 'worlds most livable countries', and 'least corrupt' countries in the world. But wait the rest of the world, Rana from a Pakistan cricket from think's we're boring. That'll change the view of New Zealand world wide. It would be humorous if it wasn't so juvenile.

 

[Rana]

New Zealand is consistently voted amongst 'worlds most livable countries', and 'least corrupt' countries in the world. But wait the rest of the world, Rana from a Pakistan cricket from think's we're boring. That'll change the view of New Zealand world wide. It would be humorous if it wasn't so juvenile.

Liveable?

Even Bradford is liveable!

 

[Mamoon]

New Zealand is the biggest farce on earth

What purpose does it serve to the world? Why can’t it just be an extra Island of Australia? Most useless country with a pointless intelligence agency acting like the US

New Zealand is a first world country; Pakistan is a this world country.

New Zealand is considered to be one of the safest places in the world with a very high Human Development Index; Pakistan’s global reputation is on par with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc.

Over the years, thousands of Pakistanis have left for New Zealand to better their lives. I don’t see any New Zealander moving to Pakistan.

Perhaps you need re-evaluate who is useless and who isn’t.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Nope New Zealand is not the victim here. Like most westerners they are entitled people who value white lives more than brown lives. If there was a threat, then Pakistani players were also at risk, yet no information was shared with Pakistan govt.

New Zealand are clearly in the wrong here and deserve all the bashing they are getting.

They literally murdered children in Afghanistan and then lied about it.

Then abandoned the people they wished to help https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-shocked-as-new-zealand-ends-kabul-evacuation

Similarly didnt care about any Pakistani potential deaths but just fled.

Yet this Indian OP is sad at memes lmao.

 

[Savak]

What does this even mean? Are you wanting to resort to violence? what exactly are you intimating?

To basically call out the country of NZ for exactly what they have done in this episode ie fabricated a so called terrorist threat in order to pull out of the tour, in every forum non stop

 

[Rana]

Thank you [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] for providing Pakistanis a reason to truly vent their frustration on that Besharam nation also known as New Zealand!

 

[Snatch]

To basically call out the country of NZ for exactly what they have done in this episode ie fabricated a so called terrorist threat in order to pull out of the tour, in every forum non stop

The intelligence came from the 5 eyes alliance, why are you pinning this on NZ for fabricating it? I understand you're upset, but you're not thinking through this rationally.

NZ would almost wholly rely on the 5 eyes for its intelligence, so this is just more emotional nonsense from you.

 

[gazza619]

What does this even mean in this context? Are you plotting a revenge? Get a life, go for a walk or something.... some fresh air perhaps. We all love cricket, but it is just a sport at the end of the day.

Don’t be a fool.

We all do indeed love cricket. But you see karma plays a beautiful game. I am a well wisher for NZ cricket but not anymore of the NZ government. Sorry I cant be two faced and pretend be some angelic diplomat here.

 

[Rana]

The insults should not stop here boys!

Keep directing them so soft kiwis like Aman can cry more about their social media being torched by heartbroken, honest cricket fans!

 

[Anis Shivani]

Interested to see what neutrals think given how PCB officials and players have been instigating hate towards NZ, NZC and the players. With Hafeez recently being another posting a smarky comment about security which is only going to perpetuate this even more.

Pakistani's have been invading NZ social media feeds and been harassing and abusing NZ for the last few days.

It's a fair question to ask given the lack of professionalism show by the PCB so far. How would you react if your country was in the same position?

Unbelievable post! The white country that acted with the utmost unprofessionalism (actually, as they all do, just look at the boorish behavior of Australian and English cricketers from time immemorial, compared to the gentlemanly attitude of, say, West Indians) is supposed to ban cricketing ties with the country who became a victim in an international power play, courtesy of America's resentment toward China, and the Taliban victory in Afghanistan. Just an unbelievable display of performative white privilege on behalf of your adopted country! What a moment of shame and self-reflection though for Pakistan, for putting itself in the course of its history in such a compromised and vulnerable position (comparable to the status of a hardworking undocumented person in the West) that two-bit countries like NZ can mess around with us in such a cavalier manner.

 

[Mamoon]

It is a cringefest on social media right now. Apparently, New Zealand “backstabbed” and “betrayed” Pakistan. A lot of people have literally used these words.

What betrayal and what backstabbing?

Did New Zealand promise that their players would play even if they receive a threat or perceive an action as a potential threat?

What on earth is wrong with us?

 

[ahsan17]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] you should notice in general that if something is Pakistan government or PCB fault, then Pakistanis in general spare nothing in bashing PCB or Pakistani government. You would have noticed that on this forum as well. Pakistanis are generally one of the most self-critical people I have come across, even being borderline hysterical sometimes. So the fact that they are angry at NZ in this case should say something.

 

[Snatch]

Bear in mind that we are the most delusional and emotional nation in the world with an unmatched victim mentality.

I apologize to New Zealand for the behavior of Pakistanis over the last two days. Truly embarrassing and sickening.

As a nation, we have completely lost our marbles. [MENTION=142156]Snatch[/MENTION] is pretty much the only Pakistani poster on this forum who has made sense over the past couple of days.

Full credit to you for having the intellectual honesty to say what is so patently obvious to anyone who is looking objectively at both this situation itself, the complicated and nuanced context to it, and the babyish reaction from many to it, including supposed officials with their irresponsible tweeting.

 

[Aman]

+1

It is much better to react maturely. Other teams will then have more confidence that if they have to pull out of Pakistan due to risk then they won't be abused. If this is the expected behavior of fellow cricketers and officials then it won't encourage all teams to visit.

Cricketers and officials making inciting statements will make the situation worse. Acting maturely will be more helpful. Frustration can be shown by putting the same message in a different language. I am just talking about cricketers and officials. You can't do anything about fans, but cricketers and officials putting inciting statements will affect fans as well.

Now you understand why I asked lol? Normal service to what Kiwis are getting on social media.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Sports ties are between two countries - between the people of the countries. Pakistan is one of the best cricket-loving countries and the game needs those fans. NZ cricket board should not cut it no matter how amateurish the PCB officials' behaviours are. Also, just ignore the ex-cricketers comments and do what is right to handle the situation.

 

[Savak]

The intelligence came from the 5 eyes alliance, why are you pinning this on NZ for fabricating it? I understand you're upset, but you're not thinking through this rationally.

NZ would almost wholly rely on the 5 eyes for its intelligence, so this is just more emotional nonsense from you.

Make it public and prove its credibility or it just doesn't exist which makes NZCB liable

 

[Rana]

Innocent Muslims were slaughtered like cattle in New Zealand by a white supremacist!

Pakistani cricketers were taunted with Racial undertones by the Health officials of New Zealand

New Zealand Intel selfishly did what they must to protect New Zealander’s only in Pakistan

 

[Mamoon]

Some fans on social media are claiming that New Zealand were morally obliged to carry on because Pakistan toured New Zealand after Christchurch mosque attack.

However, there is so much wrong with this narrative that it is hard to choose a start point.

1. No one forced Pakistan to tour New Zealand. If Pakistan would have pulled out, New Zealand fans would not be abusing Pakistani players on social media.

2. Pakistan did not tour New Zealand because they wanted to show solidarity; they toured New Zealand because they knew that they need to be on good terms with them to convince them to your Pakistan.

3. No cricket team has been directly attacked in New Zealand. To this date, Pakistan is the only nation in the world who had had a cricket team directly targeted by terrorists on its soil. Some mistakes are too big to forgive and forget - Pakistan is extremely lucky that it took less than 10 years for teams to start playing in Pakistan.

If I was the chief of a foreign cricket board, I would never send my team to Pakistan because I would never trust Pakistani security to the point where I would complete rule out the possibility of a terrorist activity.

 

[Mamoon]

Full credit to you for having the intellectual honesty to say what is so patently obvious to anyone who is looking objectively at both this situation itself, the complicated and nuanced context to it, and the babyish reaction from many to it, including supposed officials with their irresponsible tweeting.

The emotional instability of this nation is hysterical.

 

[Anis Shivani]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] you should notice in general that if something is Pakistan government or PCB fault, then Pakistanis in general spare nothing in bashing PCB or Pakistani government. You would have noticed that on this forum as well. Pakistanis are generally one of the most self-critical people I have come across, even being borderline hysterical sometimes. So the fact that they are angry at NZ in this case should say something.

Indeed, Pakistanis are the most self-critical people I have ever come across. Compared even to other South Asians, we are by far the most self-critical.

 

[Snatch]

It is a cringefest on social media right now. Apparently, New Zealand “backstabbed” and “betrayed” Pakistan. A lot of people have literally used these words.

What betrayal and what backstabbing?

Did New Zealand promise that their players would play even if they receive a threat or perceive an action as a potential threat?

What on earth is wrong with us?

The weird thing is this isn't actually getting much press coverage in NZ media.

Just like 1 update a day or a couple a paragraphs in NZ's main online papers.

It's more the social media school bus insults that have people shaking their heads and wondering if it's the postings of school kids.

 

[Technics 1210]

The tag team between 2 cousins is so obvious!

 

[Rana]

Every New Zealand defeat now will taste as sweet as India’s defeat!

 

[angrypathan]

Until the NZ government shares some details about the supposed threat then Pakistanis will be justified in their anger. You trusted the Pakistani security agencies enough to arrive for a tour in the country (after getting travel exemptions too, assuming NZ's border situation is the same as Australia's), transport you to training every day, transport you to the airport on your way out of the country, yet you don't trust them to keep you safe from whatever threat it was that the government became aware of, heck, you don't even trust them enough to tell them what that threat was! It's insulting, and your attempts to make New Zealand the victims in this are laughable.

 

[Snatch]

While Pakistan is under security alert &* top officials are making such stupid irresponsible statements (like Ramiz's) will just make it harder to convince countries to tour Pakistan as the image it creates is that the Pakistan administration will not give them the benefit of doubt and create dramas at ICC over any discomfort issues.

 

[Yk313]

Interested to see what neutrals think given how PCB officials and players have been instigating hate towards NZ, NZC and the players. With Hafeez recently being another posting a smarky comment about security which is only going to perpetuate this even more.

Pakistani's have been invading NZ social media feeds and been harassing and abusing NZ for the last few days.

It's a fair question to ask given the lack of professionalism show by the PCB so far. How would you react if your country was in the same position?

The usual emotional, knee-jerk reaction is the reaction you are witnessing on social media. With the utmost respect to NZ, I think the volumes you are witnessing on social media and here have to do with:

- the relative volumetric weight (no. of PAK posters vs. no. of NZ posters)
- the acute duration (quite a recent pullout)
- the dearth of international cricket in PAK (until recently)
- the lack of transparency (insofar as the nature of threat is concerned, not the source of course - although admittedly a lot of posters will not distinguish between the two while "expressing" their distaste)

The truth is that if you were to swap PAK in this situation for IND, BAN, SRL (or even ENG to a smaller extent) you would likely see a similar outburst. I would not worry about this and move on.

In the grand scheme of things a cricket tour being postponed due to a terror threat means nothing. If / as things continue to improve, more tours will come forth in the future.

The only thing to really deliberate about is why NZ govt. would potentially risk the lives of NZCT, PAK security personnel and PAK civilians in the manner that they seem to have done. Cricketing matters are secondary.

 

[Rana]

Well done to Mohammad Hafeez for exposing New Zealand’s lie!

Why didn’t the special forces of the 5 Guys security arrive in Pakistan to remove the NZ cricketers safely?

 

[Rana]

NZ Instagram have switched off their comments section. What’s wrong? I thought they were proud of their prompt security action?

 

[ahsan17]

While Pakistan is under security alert &* top officials are making such stupid irresponsible statements (like Ramiz's) will just make it harder to convince countries to tour Pakistan as the image it creates is that the Pakistan administration will not give them the benefit of doubt and create dramas at ICC over any discomfort issues.

What is it with some Indians inserting false or irrelevant info into everything to do with Pakistan (in this case it's a lie). The way Indians lie honestly reminds me of psychological warfare, by lying so much so as to achieve certain political aims, in this case to make them feel negative about Pakistan.

 

[Technics 1210]

Boring country

Boring people


Boring overseas diaspora

Just merge with Australia and become an extra state! Deep down they are equally as racist from within

To be fair there's more sheep than people in NZ.

 

[Rana]

Just read the comments on Instagram

Oh boy they are absolutely drilling the black caps! I didn’t know Pakistanis can be even more vengeful than the vele Indians on Twitter and Instagram!

 

[Snatch]

Some of reply on this thread is just mind blowing,Pure hatred's
Get well soon guys .

I'm not understanding the hate either.

People need to consider their hobbies and interests at this time. Read a good book or something.

This level of hate and talk of abuse and revenge from some seems so unsophisticated and barbaric. Behavior you'd expect from an ancient bronze-aged civilization, not a civilization from the 21st century.

To be fair, I don't want to paint all Pakistan fans with the same brush because many are approaching this quite rationally and maturely, even if they are upset. It's only a loud few like Rana who are encouraging abuse & making generalizions about all people from NZ, even though it was a govt decision, and nothing at all to do with your average New Zealand citizen.

 

[Yk313]

Far, far too many emotional, knee-jerk reactions here. The fascinating part is that most responses still seem to fixate upon cricket when the issue at hand is far more pressing.

At the end of the no sport, musical / theatrical event or gathering of any kind trumps the value of human life. In any corner of the planet, if there is ever a credible threat to human life or safety there is only one course of action that makes sense. And that is to safeguard the human life(s) at all possible costs.

All else can continue later.

 

[kingusama92]

Pakistan should end cricketing ties with NZ.

What NZ has done is more devastating to Pakistan's image than any other nation including India. Such a callous way of handling this situation deserves no respect or diplomacy.