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Younis Khan vs Michael Clarke - The better Test batsman?

Younis Khan vs Michael Clarke

  • Younis Khan

    Votes: 75 72.1%

  • Michael Clarke

    Votes: 29 27.9%
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There are many similarities between these 2 players.

Both of them love scoring centuries and their conversion rate is awesome just look at their numbers of hundreds and fifties.

Both of them got 8000+ runs with an average of 50+ and same number of centuries (27)

Both are the most senior players for their Test teams and also got triple hundreds.

Very fine players of spin.

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Who is a better and most reliable bat in your opinion?

My pick is Younus
 
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A sad fact Younus started playing back in 2000 and Clarke in 2004 but still Younus number of matches are less.
 
If the game is being held in Australia, I'll pick Clarke for sure, whoever the opposition is.
 
one is more consistent the other is more spectacular, those innings in South Africa were truly special

reminds me of the KP vs Younus comparison
 
srh said:
YK is an ATG but I am not sure if Clarke is
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Lol
I don't think there should be a doubt that Clarke is one of the best players we have seen.
 
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This comparison is much like who is better Moyo or YK?
 
Varun said:
If the game is being held in Australia, I'll pick Clarke for sure, whoever the opposition is.
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You seem to have an agenda against Clarke these days :))

Going back to OP, I think Clarke is a better batsman than Younis Khan, only by a slight margin..
 
Just watch Clarke's 150 against a rampaging Steyn.. That was one of the best innings I've seen
 
I will take Clarke.

Added Later: Actually, it's a tough one because both play very well in some venues.
 
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Clarke, more dominating and better against pace while both suffer from random lean patches so there are similarities definitely.
 
In tests it is debatable depending on conditions but Clarke is miles ahead of YK in the ODIs.
 
Strike Rate said:
Against spin i think most of us will prefer Younus
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Yah, but spin is mainly effective in some venues and then pace is more effective in other venues. I will also take YK against spin but I was making an overall statement. It's not an easy call but I will prefer Clarke. But then Clarke has played few great ones against SA so I am bit biased here.
 
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YK in subcontinent by far. Clarke in SA, Aus. Other countries almost equal. One thing I like about both is their habit of scoring big hundreds. YK especially gets a big hundred every series which is usually instrumental in winning the test for Pakistan.
 
Buffet said:
Yah, but spin is mainly effective in some venues and then pace is more effective in other venues. I will also take YK against spin but I was making an overall statement.
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Yes Clarke is better against pace i can't forget his innings in south africa. That was one of the best i have seen in history
 
another similarity younus 28 centuries and 28 fifties and on the other side clarke 27 centuries and 27 fifties

both got same number of centuries as fifties
 
Younis Khan

much better in away matches than home bully Clarke
 
MRSN said:
This comparison is much like who is better Moyo or YK?
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Not really. YK v Clarke actually has merit since they're both roughly on par in terms of ability and performance albeit with some flaws. YK vs Yousuf in tests is a non starter due to the much larger difference between the two in terms of quality. YK, Clarke and KP are a league above the Yousuf/Jayawarde class of batsmen(who are pretty good batsmen themselves).
 
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Younis Khan has to win easily if we're only talking about who's better currently. Clarke is not the same batsman that he was a couple of years ago and is declining rapidly. Younis is going through one of his best runs ever.

If we're talking career-wise then it will be a lot closer. I'd pick Younis in the subcon and UAE, while preferring Clarke in Australia, New Zealand, England and Australia.

They are quite equal in terms of performances but lets see how both end their career. KP was at one point, ahead of Younis but ultimately lost out to the Khan.
 
I'd say YK. I am Pakistani so may be biased, but even speaking objectively, I feel that Clarke can not play in the Subcontinent at all. Whereas although Younis is a brilliant player of spin, he isn't bad vs pace either.
 
I have excluded Ban and WI as opposition teams.

Home/Away - Michael Clarke

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Home/Away/Neutral(UAE) - Younis Khan

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I believe based on stats its hard to choose, both are pretty much neck and neck. I would go with Younis Khan I think.
 
Lest we forget that YK hasn't played in Pakistan for a number of years. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't have continued to average 60+ at home. Plenty of flat wickets to prop up the stats.
 
Younis is far better than HTB minnow basher Michael Clarke. Though at his peak Myke could be better and is also more good looking.
 
Michael Clarke is a bigger match winner, he has scored 16 hundreds in wins and Younis has 13 hundreds in wins.

So Clarke for me as he is a bigger match winner.
 
Gilly said:
Michael Clarke is a bigger match winner, he has scored 16 hundreds in wins and Younis has 13 hundreds in wins.

So Clarke for me as he is a bigger match winner.
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MC has played in a much better team for the most part. He has often been in stronger positions then YK - ergo the wins.
 
Both are good at home and similar-to-their-home-condition.

It is hard to pick between those.

In comparison to Mohammad Yousuf and Ricky Ponting, they are still behind.
 
Gilly said:
Michael Clarke is a bigger match winner, he has scored 16 hundreds in wins and Younis has 13 hundreds in wins.

So Clarke for me as he is a bigger match winner.
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Only an Aussie with single digit IQ would come up with such a lame assertion. LOL Miky played for an accomplished Aussie team while Yoni has been part of a average performing Pak side playing away from home.
 
Gilly said:
Only a Pakistani with a single digit IQ would think that Ricky Pontings hundreds in India decide who is better between Younis and Clarke.
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[MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] is not Pakistani. He is Indian.

freelance_cricketer said:
Only an Aussie with single digit IQ would come up with such a lame assertion. LOL Miky played for an accomplished Aussie team while Yoni has been part of a average performing Pak side playing away from home.
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[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] is Indian-origin Australian

Both of you stop attacking on the nationalism and stick to the topic. :misbah


^ In advance, [MENTION=52376]Saeed[/MENTION] is Pakistani, not Indian. That Imranistan :jf
 
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Well the timing of comparison couldn't be worse. Clarke had the worst series of his career and Younis is on a high.

On topic though I'd pick Younis. The guy is a honest trier and its sad that he missed some key tours because he could have made his mark as an ATG, that would always go against him when people rate him.
 
In tests it is close but in ODI's Clarke is dominant and towers over Younis so Clarke wins it easily.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Well the timing of comparison couldn't be worse. Clarke had the worst series of his career and Younis is on a high.

On topic though I'd pick Younis. The guy is a honest trier and its sad that he missed some key tours because he could have made his mark as an ATG, that would always go against him when people rate him.
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Younis still has 7 years left, he will play till 45.
 
Younis will end up with 12,000 runs. It will be fun bumping this thread then.
 
Younis scored his runs at 3 and 4, so YK easily.

Always take a good top order batsmen over a good middle order one.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Both are good at home and similar-to-their-home-condition.

It is hard to pick between those.

In comparison to Mohammad Yousuf and Ricky Ponting, they are still behind.
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YK/Clarke are easily better than MoYo. MoYo had issue with bounce and spin both. Check his record in SL/Ind for spin and Aus/SA for bounce. Same story in both formats. Pakistani wickets used to be super roads so we can't count him as a good against spin.
 
Aman said:
Younis scored his runs at 3 and 4, so YK easily.

Always take a good top order batsmen over a good middle order one.
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Not much difference between batsman playing at 3 or 4. Also these days both of them play at no. 4. Clarke has been playing at 4 since Ponting's retirement and has played some classic knocks at that position.
 
Seen Sheen said:
Not much difference between batsman playing at 3 or 4. Also these days both of them play at no. 4. Clarke has been playing at 4 since Ponting's retirement and has played some classic knocks at that position.
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Clarke is best at number 5.

He can play a four but only if the top order is solid
 
MalikMohsin said:
Both are good at home and similar-to-their-home-condition.

It is hard to pick between those.

In comparison to Mohammad Yousuf and Ricky Ponting, they are still behind.
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LOL...In what way is Moyo better? Compare any kind of stat and moyo will still be behind...
 
Sakss said:
LOL...In what way is Moyo better? Compare any kind of stat and moyo will still be behind...
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Mohammad Yousuf had played few Test after 2006. He was on the verge of becoming new Don Bradman after successful 2006. The politics has ruined him big time.

Mohammad Yousuf was totally in different league.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Mohammad Yousuf had played few Test after 2006. He was on the verge of becoming new Don Bradman after successful 2006. The politics has ruined him big time.

Mohammad Yousuf was totally in different league.
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If we take about overall career every Pakistan player has been a victim of politics so to single out Moyo only is not justifiable...

He had a poor average in Australia, India , South Afirca and Sri Lanka... If you can back that up with an answer youre most welcome.. But Younis is miles and class ahead of moyo any day
 
Sakss said:
If we take about overall career every Pakistan player has been a victim of politics so to single out Moyo only is not justifiable...

He had a poor average in Australia, India , South Afirca and Sri Lanka... If you can back that up with an answer youre most welcome.. But Younis is miles and class ahead of moyo any day
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Who hasn't?

Check the scorecard. This was one of the most difficult pitch Pakistan has ever played. Younus Khan couldn't handle it while Mohammad Yousuf scored 83 comfortably in 1st inning.

Not only that, Mohammad Yousuf has scored one century against Mcrath and Warne and performed very well against Ambrose and Walsh.

Today level of bowling attack is very poor comparatively. Any batsman can run pile of runs against mediocre bowling attack and average better than legends of past.

Mohammad Yousuf had missed lots of cricket after 2006, but that being said in the short career of Mohammad Yousuf had achieved a lot judging by 2006. Due to politics has cut his career shot unfortunately which this cannot be used as factor for comparative analysis.

I don't remember Younus khan scoring century against Mcgrath/Warne and Walsh/Ambrose. Besides, i don't think he had chance to play Walsh/Ambrose, but he did play Mcgrath/Warne and failed to score where Mohammad Yousuf scored century, not to mention Salman Butt scoring century in Australia everytimes he played there.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Who hasn't?

Check the scorecard. This was one of the most difficult pitch Pakistan has ever played. Younus Khan couldn't handle it while Mohammad Yousuf scored 83 comfortably in 1st inning.

Not only that, Mohammad Yousuf has scored one century against Mcrath and Warne and performed very well against Ambrose and Walsh.

Today level of bowling attack is very poor comparatively. Any batsman can run pile of runs against mediocre bowling attack and average better than legends of past.

Mohammad Yousuf had missed lots of cricket after 2006, but that being said in the short career of Mohammad Yousuf had achieved a lot judging by 2006. Due to politics has cut his career shot unfortunately which this cannot be used as factor for comparative analysis.

I don't remember Younus khan scoring century against Mcgrath/Warne and Walsh/Ambrose. Besides, i don't think he had chance to play Walsh/Ambrose, but he did play Mcgrath/Warne and failed to score where Mohammad Yousuf scored century, not to mention Salman Butt scoring century in Australia everytimes he played there.
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Here comes Malik Mohsin again. In that game where Yousaf scored century Younis scored 87 so he didn't fail. If you look at the whole series Younis was our best batsman averaging 43 and Yousaf did jack in rest of the series.
 
As for your argument about difficult pitch during 2006 tour to Eng most difficult wicket was at OT where extra pace meant we were thrashed. Harmison made our batsmen jump around and it was YK who stood up and top scored in both innings.
 
saeed-sohail said:
As for your argument about difficult pitch during 2006 tour to Eng most difficult wicket was at OT where extra pace meant we were thrashed. Harmison made our batsmen jump around and it was YK who stood up and top scored in both innings.
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That's typical exaggeration.

That series was played on flattest track but bounce was also there. It is Harmison that utilized the pitch very well being tall, not to mention bounce on the pitch. It was barely difficult pitch.

But in 2010, that was the most difficult pitch Pakistan had to play. Even England attests to that given the conditions of cloudy which can offer huge swing, perfect for Anderson and Asif. Younus khan was lucky not to play that series.

Younus khan is yet to prove his worth on difficult pitch. He scored century in 2nd Test [2013] against South Africa where the pitch was flat while he failed in 1st and 3rd Test matches.

Right now, he is scoring centuries after centuries on pitch where Mohammad Hafeez is scoring century as well. And threads about comparison with Michael Clark and Rahul Dravid is being created/bumped which is insult to Michael Clark and Dravid knowing they earned the recognization due to their hardwork and performances against ATG.
 
saeed-sohail said:
Here comes Malik Mohsin again. In that game where Yousaf scored century Younis scored 87 so he didn't fail. If you look at the whole series Younis was our best batsman averaging 43 and Yousaf did jack in rest of the series.
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Even though Mohammad Yousuf scored at least one century. But both Younus Khan and Mohammad Yousuf did jack in the whole series. How conveniously you ignored Younus Khan considering Pakistan was whitewashed by Australia 3-0.
 
Someone is crying hard in this thread just to prove that MoYo performed better than Younus lol
 
Strike Rate said:
Someone is crying hard in this thread just to prove that MoYo performed better than Younus lol
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He's making a decent argument. Not that I think Yousuf was as good as Younis but I would respect his opinion.
 
MalikMohsin said:
That's typical exaggeration.

That series was played on flattest track but bounce was also there. It is Harmison that utilized the pitch very well being tall, not to mention bounce on the pitch. It was barely difficult pitch.

But in 2010, that was the most difficult pitch Pakistan had to play. Even England attests to that given the conditions of cloudy which can offer huge swing, perfect for Anderson and Asif. Younus khan was lucky not to play that series.

Younus khan is yet to prove his worth on difficult pitch. He scored century in 2nd Test [2013] against South Africa where the pitch was flat while he failed in 1st and 3rd Test matches.

Right now, he is scoring centuries after centuries on pitch where Mohammad Hafeez is scoring century as well. And threads about comparison with Michael Clark and Rahul Dravid is being created/bumped which is insult to Michael Clark and Dravid knowing they earned the recognization due to their hardwork and performances against ATG.
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What a lame post.

So the pitch was flat when he scores a ton and wasn't when he did not?? We were 4 down for 20 and it was moving around like crazy.

Also during the third test he was looking good in the first dig, the last man dismissed. Its not his fault the rest of the team folded like a pack of card.

Difficult pitches?? Define difficult pitches. The fact that he averages 53 in the fourth innings with four tons( more than anyone else) should be enough to dismiss this ridiculous argument, if there was any in the first place.
 
MalikMohsin said:
That's typical exaggeration.

That series was played on flattest track but bounce was also there. It is Harmison that utilized the pitch very well being tall, not to mention bounce on the pitch. It was barely difficult pitch.

But in 2010, that was the most difficult pitch Pakistan had to play. Even England attests to that given the conditions of cloudy which can offer huge swing, perfect for Anderson and Asif. Younus khan was lucky not to play that series.

Younus khan is yet to prove his worth on difficult pitch. He scored century in 2nd Test [2013] against South Africa where the pitch was flat while he failed in 1st and 3rd Test matches.

Right now, he is scoring centuries after centuries on pitch where Mohammad Hafeez is scoring century as well. And threads about comparison with Michael Clark and Rahul Dravid is being created/bumped which is insult to Michael Clark and Dravid knowing they earned the recognization due to their hardwork and performances against ATG.
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Younis Khan's ability to bat in adverse conditions is overstated on this forum. Simply filtering averages on cricinfo don't tell the whole story.

He always bats like an amateur against quality pace and is generally all over the place when the conditions are tough.

An absolute masterclass against spin though.
 
Matter of choice. Hard to decide between Yk and MC but being a Pakistani I would always go for Yk

Btw Michael Clarke century vs SA at cape town was one of the best innings I ever saw. Truly magnificent
 
Mamoon said:
Younis Khan's ability to bat in adverse conditions is overstated on this forum. Simply filtering averages on cricinfo don't tell the whole story.

He always bats like an amateur against quality pace and is generally all over the place when the conditions are tough.

An absolute masterclass against spin though.
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that sounds like Dravid
 
MalikMohsin said:
That's typical exaggeration.

That series was played on flattest track but bounce was also there. It is Harmison that utilized the pitch very well being tall, not to mention bounce on the pitch. It was barely difficult pitch.

But in 2010, that was the most difficult pitch Pakistan had to play. Even England attests to that given the conditions of cloudy which can offer huge swing, perfect for Anderson and Asif. Younus khan was lucky not to play that series.

Younus khan is yet to prove his worth on difficult pitch. He scored century in 2nd Test [2013] against South Africa where the pitch was flat while he failed in 1st and 3rd Test matches.

Right now, he is scoring centuries after centuries on pitch where Mohammad Hafeez is scoring century as well. And threads about comparison with Michael Clark and Rahul Dravid is being created/bumped which is insult to Michael Clark and Dravid knowing they earned the recognization due to their hardwork and performances against ATG.
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If you think that Old Trafford track was flat in 06 then you couldn't be more wrong. That was the fastest wicket here in Manchester for a long time. Harmy blitz us for 119 with Younus top scoring with 44. Again in the second inning he top scored with 62 out of 221.

As for tour of Aus in 04/05 Younis was our best batsman throughout with 259 runs @43.16. Moyo despite that hundred at MCG scored 189 runs @31.
 
Mamoon said:
Younis Khan's ability to bat in adverse conditions is overstated on this forum. Simply filtering averages on cricinfo don't tell the whole story.

He always bats like an amateur against quality pace and is generally all over the place when the conditions are tough.

An absolute masterclass against spin though.
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I think its unfair to single out YK for being average in bowling friendly conditions. I have seen Aus batsmen struggle here in Eng when it swings at certain venues. Most top batsmen today struggle in pace friendly conditions because their abilities to grind things out are not on par with say top batsmen in 80s.
 
saeed-sohail said:
If you think that Old Trafford track was flat in 06 then you couldn't be more wrong. That was the fastest wicket here in Manchester for a long time. Harmy blitz us for 119 with Younus top scoring with 44. Again in the second inning he top scored with 62 out of 221.

As for tour of Aus in 04/05 Younis was our best batsman throughout with 259 runs @43.16. Moyo despite that hundred at MCG scored 189 runs @31.
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I watched it live. I have Extended Highlight of that Test. There was hardly any movement, but bounce only. Pakistan team couldn't handle bounce utilized by Harmission. That being said, Mohammad Yousuf love playing bounce. Flat pitch with bounce is hardly difficult pitch as it is possible to score century if you know how to play bounce. Australian batsmen score centuries after centuries for fun at home covered by flat pitch with bounce.

Pakistan was whitewashed by Australia 3-0. You are talking as if he scored century or double century against Australia.

Both Mohammad Yousuf and Younus Khan did jack on the whole series. There is nothing to compliment about that.

1st Test on Perth pitch may have been hyped as the most difficult pitch Pakistan had ever played. In fact, Pakistan was knocked out on 179 in first inning and 72 in the second inning. The highest scorer was Younus Khan, 42. He got settled, yet he failed to capitualize. 42 runs is hardly achievement, no offence.

There is the reason Younus khan had to wait 12 years for his first century against Australia in dull tracks where everyone are scoring centuries after centuries.

Not only in Australia, Younus khan had chance to score century at home against Mcgrath and Warne, but failed. He only had two fifty in the whole Test series at home. Should i merge two fifty as one century to make you feel better?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64001.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64002.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64003.html



http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64113.html
 
Besides in England 2006, Mohammad Yousuf outscored Younus Khan in the whole test series. The only way to get Mohammad Yousuf out was to run him out as if it wasn't for run out [Younus on the other end], Mohammad Yousuf would have scored another double century - admitted by captain of England team, Andrew Straus on Presentation after 3rd Test . :misbah
 
MalikMohsin said:
I watched it live. I have Extended Highlight of that Test. There was hardly any movement, but bounce only. Pakistan team couldn't handle bounce utilized by Harmission. That being said, Mohammad Yousuf love playing bounce. Flat pitch with bounce is hardly difficult pitch as it is possible to score century if you know how to play bounce. Australian batsmen score centuries after centuries for fun at home covered by flat pitch with bounce.

Pakistan was whitewashed by Australia 3-0. You are talking as if he scored century or double century against Australia.

Both Mohammad Yousuf and Younus Khan did jack on the whole series. There is nothing to compliment about that.

1st Test on Perth pitch may have been hyped as the most difficult pitch Pakistan had ever played. In fact, Pakistan was knocked out on 179 in first inning and 72 in the second inning. The highest scorer was Younus Khan, 42. He got settled, yet he failed to capitualize. 42 runs is hardly achievement, no offence.

There is the reason Younus khan had to wait 12 years for his first century against Australia in dull tracks where everyone are scoring centuries after centuries.

Not only in Australia, Younus khan had chance to score century at home against Mcgrath and Warne, but failed. He only had two fifty in the whole Test series at home. Should i merge two fifty as one century to make you feel better?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64001.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64002.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64003.html



http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64113.html
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If it was that easy and Moyo love bounce why did YK out perform him at OT and Perth. When you are bowled out for 100 odd 44 is a good knock in the context.
 
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