Your squad for the upcoming Test series against Sri Lanka

[MenInG]

Even though dates have not been announced, the tour of Sri Lanka by Pakistan will consist of 2 Tests.

Should Pakistan go in with the same squad which took on Australia at home or make changes, and if so what changes should be made?

Pakistan squad for Sri Lanka Tests: Babar Azam (captain), Mohammad Rizwan (vice-captain, wicketkeeper), Abdullah Shafique, Azhar Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Fawad Alam, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Mohammad Nawaz, Naseem Shah, Nauman Ali, Salman Ali Agha, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wicketkeeper), Saud Shakeel, Shaheen Afridi, Shan Masood and Yasir Shah

 

[Shafi]

Even though dates have not been announced, the tour of Sri Lanka by Pakistan will consist of 2 Tests.

Should Pakistan go in with the same squad which took on Australia at home or make changes, and if so what changes should be made?

Ideally Shajid, Nauman and Hasan should be kicked out but knowing Pakistan they may retain all of them and may cost us series as usual.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

What a snorefest that series promises to be - red ball and white ball.

I will put it just above watching paint peel off.

We will see the same old faces trudging in and out, with some kicked out, some brought back.

They will also throw in a token rookie or two to show the world they are blending youth with experience.

Have Hafeez, Malik retired? Is Abdul Rahman still racking up wickets in domestics? Who else has the ear of the board?

The pitches will be flat from day 1 to day 4.2 and then start spinning - making batting first run with the odds. In white ball, I can't bear to watch Hassan Ali tee up at all or Rizwan come in at 4 or 5. Team scoring a solid 45 for 1 after 10.

It is one of the most boring team in the world to watch despite Babar and Shaheen in the squad.

Therefore this being Pakistan, I will watch it.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Nawaz was picked in the squad but due to injuries, he was unable to play. I wonder if he gets a shot over Nauman and I think he should to be honest.

Other than that, I don't think they will try any other changes.

 

[MenInG]

The announcement of the Pakistan men's team squad for the two-match Test series for the tour of Sri Lanka is expected next week.

According to the details, the training camp for the selected players will take place in Rawalpindi.. The players will report to Rawalpindi on June 25, while the camp will commence from the next day.

According to sources, there is no possibility of much change in the squad for the home series against Australia.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...ounce-test-squad-for-sri-lanka-tour-next-week

 

[Shafi]

The announcement of the Pakistan men's team squad for the two-match Test series for the tour of Sri Lanka is expected next week.

According to the details, the training camp for the selected players will take place in Rawalpindi.. The players will report to Rawalpindi on June 25, while the camp will commence from the next day.

According to sources, there is no possibility of much change in the squad for the home series against Australia.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...ounce-test-squad-for-sri-lanka-tour-next-week

So same team and same series loss. Both Sajid and Nauman will fail to take wickets on spinning pitch and Hasan as usual will fail. Yes man wanna be coach Saqlain will pose for camera.

 

[Nasty Naz]

So same team and same series loss. Both Sajid and Nauman will fail to take wickets on spinning pitch and Hasan as usual will fail. Yes man wanna be coach Saqlain will pose for camera.

Hasan Ali Test career: 19 matches, 23.60 AVG, 45.8 SR, 3.09 economy. Six 5 wicket hauls.

bUt HaSan aLi WiLl fAiL aS uSuAl.

 

[Markhor]

What a snorefest that series promises to be - red ball and white ball.

I will put it just above watching paint peel off.

We will see the same old faces trudging in and out, with some kicked out, some brought back.

They will also throw in a token rookie or two to show the world they are blending youth with experience.

Have Hafeez, Malik retired? Is Abdul Rahman still racking up wickets in domestics? Who else has the ear of the board?

The pitches will be flat from day 1 to day 4.2 and then start spinning - making batting first run with the odds. In white ball, I can't bear to watch Hassan Ali tee up at all or Rizwan come in at 4 or 5. Team scoring a solid 45 for 1 after 10.

It is one of the most boring team in the world to watch despite Babar and Shaheen in the squad.

Therefore this being Pakistan, I will watch it.

The last tour of SL in 2015 was a cracker - sadly both Test teams are shells of themselves now.

Our spin department is atrocious. Although docile pitches and negative tactics didn't help, Nauman and Sajid bowled themselves out of a Test career vs Australia. If Mohammad Nawaz is fit, he should come in.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I wonder if Shan will get a call up.

Spin department is weak. Is the door closed for Yasir Shah?

 

[ElRaja]

pakistan need to (but obv wont) take a leaf out of englands book, if ur top order is weak you need counter attackers lower down the order.

7,8 need to be all rounders who hit, two of either fahim, shadab and nawaz depending on conditions. paks regular spinners are so bad there's nothing to lose by trying nawaz and shadab.

the real elephant in the room is azhar, holding on to that number three spot, which ideally should be babars spot, which would open up 4 and 5 for experimentation.

would like to see said shakeel get a go finally, fawad was found wanting massively against aus in home conditions, think his time should be up.

 

[CricketingMinds]

Azhar Ali out

Shan Masood in

Shadab, Nawaz in. Sajid Nauman out.

Babar to score daddy 100s

 

[Marooned]

Hopefully Abbas doesn't make a return. He has nothing left to show at international level.

Saud Shakeel absolutely must get his chance now. Ideally Kamran Ghulam too.

Azhar Ali has overstayed for about 3 years now and it must end. Otherwise pakistan cricket can keep running as social security program.

 

[Omer2002]

Pak will lose thats for sure..i dont know y as always ppl take sri lankans lightly they are a v good team at home. Their pitches is never a snoozefest thats only pak pitches. Lets see how aussies do against them in tests

 

[Shafi]

If we are touring SL and if the pitch is spin friendly then definitely we will loose the match. Both Sajid & Nauman will fail along with Hasan and Fawad. So basically we will field 6-7 players.

 

[Babeikh]

Still no dates announced? Wish they didn't leave things to the last possible minute

 

[Omer2002]

i have been thinking about the combo and with shaans form we can always play three openers if they have any common sense. Azhar ali and Faddy both are struggling for form.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Finally there will be red ball cricket action with Pakistan playing in it. I simply love test cricket more than everything else that gets dished around for forceful consumption. Anyways this is a great opportunity for Pakistan to solidify their test line-up even further. A lot of abuse and evil eyes were thwarted towards our players in recent series against Australia especially our bowlers but we got to understand that series was one of the most ridiculous batting strips rolled out ever. There was absolutely nothing in it for bowlers and Australia simply came out on top because of their superior pace bowlers (Starc and Cummins).

Also the current series with Sri Lanka presents another golden opportunity to get rid of deadweights in the line-up and we all know the dinosaurs I’m referring to in here. Having said that I have massive respect for Azhar Ali and things he has done for Pakistan cricket and I for one would love if he bows out with respect which he will get if he retires now rather than try to prolong career any further.

My starting line-up would be as follows (provided it’s a spinning deck we are going to be playing upon).
1. Imam ul Haq
2. Abdullah Shafique
3. Shan Masood
4. Babar Azam
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Shadab Khan
8. Nauman Ali
9. Shaheen Shah
10. Naseem Shah
11. Sajid Khan

Reserves would be:
12. Faheem Ashraf
13. Dahani
14. Saud Shakeel
15. Iftikhar Ahmed
16. Nawaz

A lot of my choices will no be popular amongst the masses especially the re-selection of Nauman Ali and Sajid Khan. Let me make one thing clear, I’m totally against the selection of Yasir Shah for multiple reasons first being that he hasn’t done anything in domestic cricket to warrant a place in test team secondly he has had off field issue and have been involved in multiple controversies now so better avoid a time bomb rather than include it in test line-up. Shadab hasn’t done anything in red ball domestics either but he has been in very good form of late in white ball cricket and a super handy bat and fielder, going forward he is very integral to success of Pakistan cricket and must be included in all teams along with Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen.

I have included Naseem Shah which is subject to his fitness ofcourse. The comeback trail that Naseem is currently on originated from Sri Lanka where he dismantled their A team on more than one occasion so if he is fit his recent experience will come in handy. Also I just need someone to replace Hasan Ali, give Hasan Ali some rest and let him play QEA this year to win his spot back. I have also excluded Abbas from 16 men squad as we need to move on from dead wights now. Lastly, Fawad is dropped for Kamran Ghulam which is a no brainer. The rest of the team picks itself.

Looking forward to some test cricket.

 

[indianpanacea]

A.shafique
Shaan Masood
Imam
Babar
Kamran Ghulam
Rizwan
Zaffar gowhar
Yasir shah
Shahdab
Shaheen Afridi
Haris rouf

 

[hitthestump]

Surely now it's time for Azhar Ali to make way. If he won't go he needs to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Abdullah Shafique
Iman
Shan Masood
Babar
Saud Shakeel
Rizwan
Mohammad Nawaz
Faheem
Sajid Khan
Hasan Ali
Shaheen Afridi

 

[shamaan]

I wonder if Shan will get a call up.

Spin department is weak. Is the door closed for Yasir Shah?

Definitely should be in the squad.

 

[shamaan]

I would definitely pick Shan Masood in the squad.I will go with

Abdullah Shafique
Imaam Ul haq
Shan Masood
Babar
Kamran Ghullam
Rizwan
Shadab
Nawaz
Sajid Khan
Shaheen
Hassan Ali

But I think they will go with

Imaam
Abdullah
Azhar
Babar
Shan Masood/Fawad/Kamran Ghullam
Rizwan
Nawaz
Sajid Khan
Fahim Ashraf
Hassan Ali
Shaheen

 

[daytrader]

Shan is banging on the door of the top order and this should present a real conundrum for the selectors. Will they drop Azhar? Or will they rest one of either Imam or Abdullah? I personally think the later will happen

 

[Kaddy]

If we are touring SL and if the pitch is spin friendly then definitely we will loose the match. Both Sajid & Nauman will fail along with Hasan and Fawad. So basically we will field 6-7 players.

Others, I agree but I believe Fawad may not fail as bad as he failed against Australia because Sri Lankan type pitches and bowling suit him.

Australian pacers were too good for him.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Should be an interesting series. Pakistan, even post MisYou, are good players of spin in Asia. 2nd only to India.
SL are weak players of spin . And, of course , Pakistan play pace better too. SL have no chance here.

 

[gazza619]

Please can we ensure that the number 3 spot goes to Shan and not Azhar Ali?

I would also like to see Dahani open with the new ball with Shaheen.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pakistan should have blooded new batmen like saud shakeel and kamran ghulam during Aussies series, i can see same TTFs being used during SL series.

 

[Titan24]

- Nawaz should be a must in the series. He is currently looking like the most accurate spinner as with possibly most revs amongst the finger spinners around the Pakistan team. Add to it his batting and decent fielding, I believe he should be in the playing XI.

- Azhar averages 60 in test cricket in 2022 so far in 3 matches with highest of 185 (In last 3 years he is averaging in mid 40s). He is getting nowhere, not sure how some are so confidently removing him. Yes I do believe that if not him then Fawad needs to make way for a younger one despite his performances in last year as you have to build for the future as well. However, doubt its going to happen.

- Sajid is the only decent offie around the Pak team so will have to keep him in the squad. Mubasir Khan is pretty impressive as off spin all rounder but, needs more seasons under his belt.

- Shadab if fully fit should make the squad as well. Can allow for different combinations if required due to his all round ability. However, yes he has not played red ball cricket for sometime.


My playing xi based upon mixture of realism as well as what I believe;

Abdullah Shafique
Imam Ul Haq
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam (C)
Saud Shakeel/ Kamran Ghulam/ Fawad Alam
Mohammad Rizwan
Shadab Khan/ Faheem Ashraf
Mohammad Nawaz
Hassan Ali
Naseem Shah/ Yasir/Sajid Khan/ Zahid (Depending upon conditions and no 7 slot selection)
Shaheen Afridi

 

[Mesozoic]

This should be another tight series but if wickets are typical Sri Lankan style with sharp turn from day 1 , I feel Sri Lanka has a clear advantage. Nauman and Sajid aren't good enough to run through Sri Lanka who have excellent players of spin like Karunaratne, Chandimal and Mathews.

 

[Omer2002]

Abdullah
Imam
Shaan

They are my top 3 but where do you fit Azar in and where do you fit Babz in is the question.

 

[Amjid Javed]

- Nawaz should be a must in the series. He is currently looking like the most accurate spinner as with possibly most revs amongst the finger spinners around the Pakistan team. Add to it his batting and decent fielding, I believe he should be in the playing XI.

- Azhar averages 60 in test cricket in 2022 so far in 3 matches with highest of 185 (In last 3 years he is averaging in mid 40s). He is getting nowhere, not sure how some are so confidently removing him. Yes I do believe that if not him then Fawad needs to make way for a younger one despite his performances in last year as you have to build for the future as well. However, doubt its going to happen.

- Sajid is the only decent offie around the Pak team so will have to keep him in the squad. Mubasir Khan is pretty impressive as off spin all rounder but, needs more seasons under his belt.

- Shadab if fully fit should make the squad as well. Can allow for different combinations if required due to his all round ability. However, yes he has not played red ball cricket for sometime.


My playing xi based upon mixture of realism as well as what I believe;

Abdullah Shafique
Imam Ul Haq
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam (C)
Saud Shakeel/ Kamran Ghulam/ Fawad Alam
Mohammad Rizwan
Shadab Khan/ Faheem Ashraf
Mohammad Nawaz
Hassan Ali
Naseem Shah/ Yasir/Sajid Khan/ Zahid (Depending upon conditions and no 7 slot selection)
Shaheen Afridi

Lets get some context here, Azhar scored most of his runs on rawalpindi highway which would have been drawn if it was 100 day test. He was no where to be seen rest of series when going got tough. once again fans protecting players because they got soft meaningless runs.

 

[topspin]

Lets get some context here, Azhar scored most of his runs on rawalpindi highway which would have been drawn if it was 100 day test. He was no where to be seen rest of series when going got tough. once again fans protecting players because they got soft meaningless runs.

Agreed, stats without context is a poor way of reading the game especially in this case as you rightly said his runs were mostly scored on super flat wickets.

But this level of analysis is expected from someone who wanted to see Mickey Arthur replaced by Mohsin Khan as Head Coach of Pakistan.

 

[Shafi]

Same useless players retain again and again Nauman Ali, Hasan Ali, Fawad (Finished), Sarfraz and Azhar (finished).

 

[Titan24]

Lets get some context here, Azhar scored most of his runs on rawalpindi highway which would have been drawn if it was 100 day test. He was no where to be seen rest of series when going got tough. once again fans protecting players because they got soft meaningless runs.

Not protecting, just stating the facts and how the cricketing system generally works as I mentioned before stating my XI. I am all up for trying younger players but, lets be true to ourselves. There is a high chance that Azhar and Fawad both will be playing in the first test. In my personal opinion at least one of them should be making way for a younger guy so that we can develop him for future.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Finally there will be red ball cricket action with Pakistan playing in it. I simply love test cricket more than everything else that gets dished around for forceful consumption. Anyways this is a great opportunity for Pakistan to solidify their test line-up even further. A lot of abuse and evil eyes were thwarted towards our players in recent series against Australia especially our bowlers but we got to understand that series was one of the most ridiculous batting strips rolled out ever. There was absolutely nothing in it for bowlers and Australia simply came out on top because of their superior pace bowlers (Starc and Cummins).

Also the current series with Sri Lanka presents another golden opportunity to get rid of deadweights in the line-up and we all know the dinosaurs I’m referring to in here. Having said that I have massive respect for Azhar Ali and things he has done for Pakistan cricket and I for one would love if he bows out with respect which he will get if he retires now rather than try to prolong career any further.

My starting line-up would be as follows (provided it’s a spinning deck we are going to be playing upon).
1. Imam ul Haq
2. Abdullah Shafique
3. Shan Masood
4. Babar Azam
5. Kamran Ghulam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Shadab Khan
8. Nauman Ali
9. Shaheen Shah
10. Naseem Shah
11. Sajid Khan

Reserves would be:
12. Faheem Ashraf
13. Dahani
14. Saud Shakeel
15. Iftikhar Ahmed
16. Nawaz

A lot of my choices will no be popular amongst the masses especially the re-selection of Nauman Ali and Sajid Khan. Let me make one thing clear, I’m totally against the selection of Yasir Shah for multiple reasons first being that he hasn’t done anything in domestic cricket to warrant a place in test team secondly he has had off field issue and have been involved in multiple controversies now so better avoid a time bomb rather than include it in test line-up. Shadab hasn’t done anything in red ball domestics either but he has been in very good form of late in white ball cricket and a super handy bat and fielder, going forward he is very integral to success of Pakistan cricket and must be included in all teams along with Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen.

I have included Naseem Shah which is subject to his fitness ofcourse. The comeback trail that Naseem is currently on originated from Sri Lanka where he dismantled their A team on more than one occasion so if he is fit his recent experience will come in handy. Also I just need someone to replace Hasan Ali, give Hasan Ali some rest and let him play QEA this year to win his spot back. I have also excluded Abbas from 16 men squad as we need to move on from dead wights now. Lastly, Fawad is dropped for Kamran Ghulam which is a no brainer. The rest of the team picks itself.

Looking forward to some test cricket.

I'm very surprised at the test squad announced. The lack of backbone in PCB to stick to their decisions is absolutely abysmal. The entire winning mantra is based around 5 players (Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shafique and Masood) whilst the other 6 players are in for a free joy ride from whom nothing good is expected.

I just don't understand the logic of Yasir's selection. For some very weird reason the selection committee said that he did well in SL last time around hence he is selected which is such a poor excuse and shows the lack of backbone in management to stick with their decisions. On one hand we have Yasir who has multiple bad series under his belt whilst on other we have Sajid Khan who had one bad series and won us the series before that. I'm not saying Sajid is better than Yasir I'm just pointing out to lack of authoritative decision making within PCB who seems like can be wilted when miniature pressure is applied.

We ofcourse obviously have Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam reselected in this series, no comment.

Given how we have started this tour I'm totally expecting a brainless decision to go with 3 seamers and 1 spinner on the eve of first test or we would play Faheem Ashraf over Nawaz. Anything can be expected of this lot now.

 

[Marooned]

I'm very surprised at the test squad announced. The lack of backbone in PCB to stick to their decisions is absolutely abysmal. The entire winning mantra is based around 5 players (Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shafique and Masood) whilst the other 6 players are in for a free joy ride from whom nothing good is expected.

I just don't understand the logic of Yasir's selection. For some very weird reason the selection committee said that he did well in SL last time around hence he is selected which is such a poor excuse and shows the lack of backbone in management to stick with their decisions. On one hand we have Yasir who has multiple bad series under his belt whilst on other we have Sajid Khan who had one bad series and won us the series before that. I'm not saying Sajid is better than Yasir I'm just pointing out to lack of authoritative decision making within PCB who seems like can be wilted when miniature pressure is applied.

We ofcourse obviously have Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam reselected in this series, no comment.

Given how we have started this tour I'm totally expecting a brainless decision to go with 3 seamers and 1 spinner on the eve of first test or we would play Faheem Ashraf over Nawaz. Anything can be expected of this lot now.

Since when does Shafique become part of winning mantra? All he has done is score some runs at an atrocious sr on deadest wickets imaginable and then gifting his wicket at a critical time when the pressure was on.

I completely agree with your point about Yasir Shah vis a vis Sajid tho and I'm no fan of Sajid either. Yasir has been flopping endless and would've been butchered as bad on those lifeless wickets vs Australia.

 

[PakEngFan]

Since when does Shafique become part of winning mantra? All he has done is score some runs at an atrocious sr on deadest wickets imaginable and then gifting his wicket at a critical time when the pressure was on.

I completely agree with your point about Yasir Shah vis a vis Sajid tho and I'm no fan of Sajid either. Yasir has been flopping endless and would've been butchered as bad on those lifeless wickets vs Australia.

So Abdullah shafique should be dropped?

 

[shujaatraza]

Since when does Shafique become part of winning mantra? All he has done is score some runs at an atrocious sr on deadest wickets imaginable and then gifting his wicket at a critical time when the pressure was on.

I completely agree with your point about Yasir Shah vis a vis Sajid tho and I'm no fan of Sajid either. Yasir has been flopping endless and would've been butchered as bad on those lifeless wickets vs Australia.

Shan Masood wasn’t part of playing 11. Imam and Shafique were the 2 openers.
As for spinners, the quality and depth is so bad now that no matter which 2 spinners you pick, results will be the same. Yes Sajid should feel unlucky that he was dropped and Nauman was retained.

 

[Marooned]

Shan Masood wasn’t part of playing 11. Imam and Shafique were the 2 openers.
As for spinners, the quality and depth is so bad now that no matter which 2 spinners you pick, results will be the same. Yes Sajid should feel unlucky that he was dropped and Nauman was retained.

Where did I mention Shan? I'm talking about Shafique

 

[Firebat]

Pakistan squad for Sri Lanka Tests: Babar Azam (captain), Mohammad Rizwan (vice-captain, wicketkeeper), Abdullah Shafique, Azhar Ali, Faheem Ashraf, Fawad Alam, Haris Rauf, Hasan Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Mohammad Nawaz, Naseem Shah, Nauman Ali, Salman Ali Agha, Sarfaraz Ahmed (wicketkeeper), Saud Shakeel, Shaheen Afridi, Shan Masood and Yasir Shah

 

[Ahmed216]

Best possible 11
Imam
Shan
Abdullah
Babar
Saud
Rizwan
Faheem
Nawaz
Yasir
Shaheen
Naseem

Realistic 11
Imam
Abdullah
Azhar Ali
Babar Azam
Fawad Alam
Rizwan
Faheem
Yasir
Nauman Ali
Hasan Ali
Shaheen

 

[shujaatraza]

I'm very surprised at the test squad announced. The lack of backbone in PCB to stick to their decisions is absolutely abysmal. The entire winning mantra is based around 5 players (Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shafique and Masood) whilst the other 6 players are in for a free joy ride from whom nothing good is expected.

I just don't understand the logic of Yasir's selection. For some very weird reason the selection committee said that he did well in SL last time around hence he is selected which is such a poor excuse and shows the lack of backbone in management to stick with their decisions. On one hand we have Yasir who has multiple bad series under his belt whilst on other we have Sajid Khan who had one bad series and won us the series before that. I'm not saying Sajid is better than Yasir I'm just pointing out to lack of authoritative decision making within PCB who seems like can be wilted when miniature pressure is applied.

We ofcourse obviously have Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam reselected in this series, no comment.

Given how we have started this tour I'm totally expecting a brainless decision to go with 3 seamers and 1 spinner on the eve of first test or we would play Faheem Ashraf over Nawaz. Anything can be expected of this lot now.

Shan Masood wasn’t part of playing 11. Imam and Shafique were the 2 openers.
As for spinners, the quality and depth is so bad now that no matter which 2 spinners you pick, results will be the same. Yes Sajid should feel unlucky that he was dropped and Nauman was retained.

 

[shujaatraza]

Where did I mention Shan? I'm talking about Shafique

Apologies, I meant to reply extra cover and replied to you instead. My bad, sorry

 

[Titan24]

Yasir Shah have had his struggles with fitness and off field issues but, recently performed well in Pakistan cup and showing good rhythm with 24 wickets @ 22 a piece being the 2nd highest wicket taker. As per Mohammad Wasim he has achieved full fitness as well. Seeing the quality Nauman and Sajid had to offer without any wicket taking spinner with them, Yasir obviously was going to come in so no surprises there.

 

[Titan24]

Agreed, stats without context is a poor way of reading the game especially in this case as you rightly said his runs were mostly scored on super flat wickets.

But this level of analysis is expected from someone who wanted to see Mickey Arthur replaced by Mohsin Khan as Head Coach of Pakistan.

Looked at the squad?

And your analysis started and ended with ever getting fired Mickey and Shan.

Which international team is Mickey coaching now a days? And how many historic wins he have had in his career? Guy is not a result oriented coach and his days post SA prove that (Decent with team building as mentioned before). With your gem of an analysis bring out the numbers stating otherwise that can manifest the achievements of Mickey Arthur. Pretty sure you wont bring in numbers as fact less analysis is your expertise.

Well irrespective of the way you want to twist it, under Mohsin Khan Pak atleast won home series against Srl when Sanga, Jayawardne and Dilshan were still playing while under Mickey we lost against a pretty average Srl side. But but, Mickey, Mohsin, Shan, how many times you are going to copy paste same debate.

 

[topspin]

Looked at the squad?

And your analysis started and ended with ever getting fired Mickey and Shan.

Which international team is Mickey coaching now a days? And how many historic wins he have had in his career? Guy is not a result oriented coach and his days post SA prove that (Decent with team building as mentioned before). With your gem of an analysis bring out the numbers stating otherwise that can manifest the achievements of Mickey Arthur. Pretty sure you wont bring in numbers as fact less analysis is your expertise.

Well irrespective of the way you want to twist it, under Mohsin Khan Pak atleast won home series against Srl when Sanga, Jayawardne and Dilshan were still playing while under Mickey we lost against a pretty average Srl side. But but, Mickey, Mohsin, Shan, how many times you are going to copy paste same debate.

My issue isn't about your views on MA, it's to do with the fact that you wanted him replaced by someone far more inferior to him (in Mohsin Khan).

Also, you vouched for Misbah and Waqar when they replaced MA and how did that turn out?

Finally, don't get me started on your analysis of Azhar Ali.

 

[shamaan]

Since when does Shafique become part of winning mantra? All he has done is score some runs at an atrocious sr on deadest wickets imaginable and then gifting his wicket at a critical time when the pressure was on.

I completely agree with your point about Yasir Shah vis a vis Sajid tho and I'm no fan of Sajid either. Yasir has been flopping endless and would've been butchered as bad on those lifeless wickets vs Australia.

Abdullah showed alot more than some of a experienced players.

 

[shamaan]

Now that the squad has been announced I think they will go with

Imaam
Abdullah
Azhar
Babar
Fawad
Rizwan
Nawaz
Hassan Ali
Yasir shah
Shaheen
Dahani

 

[Markhor]

Overall a decent squad, most of the names you could've predicted.

However Nauman Ali is somewhat lucky to be retained. He's been ineffective in his last two series.

 

[Titan24]

My issue isn't about your views on MA, it's to do with the fact that you wanted him replaced by someone far more inferior to him (in Mohsin Khan).

Also, you vouched for Misbah and Waqar when they replaced MA and how did that turn out?

Finally, don't get me started on your analysis of Azhar Ali.

I never specifically wanted him to be replaced by Mohsin in actuality, it was just that his name came up when we had this thread going on with regards to Mohisn and Mickey wasnt doing great in terms of results. Since them I have talked about Peter Moores in good light when he was in contention as well as Andy Flower and Gary Kirsten. Its a misconception in your mind that I specifically wanted Mohsin to replace him, it was just the frustrating extremes of the two world where a coach good at player development and recognition was as far as producing quality results on consistent basis as possible while another guy who has never coached in his life and last played international cricket decades ago was able to produce satisfactory results at test level in his very short tenure. Just to make it clear I would take Peter Moores, Andy Flower, Trevor Baylis, Gary Kirsten and even local ones who have performed like Abdul Rehman any day over Mohsin Khan or any other person who has never coached or someone who has failed repeatedly in different tenures.

Again regarding Misbah and Waqar it was more to do with wanting some results as a Pak fan then we have had during Mickey. Misbah's selection without any experience was poor call and I have said that multiple times. In short I was not a fan of Mickey continuing as the kind of job he has been doing in recent times of composing somewhat of a team and its direction, he already did so he didnt have much to offer. It could have been any Tom, Dick or Harry replacing him I would have given that person a chance to maybe go beyond the standard that was set. It was just that at that time we didnt have much names coming up and local domestic structure was still establishing that guys without any experience came into contention.

My Analysis on Azhar? When did I analyze him. Just shared the facts that based upon these numbers he will be in the team and he is as you can see. Me nitpicking on those numbers wouldnt have ousted him from the team.

Anyways, if you want to have a decent cricket discussion with me I am all up for it. However, kindly avoid quoting me or indirectly talking about me because of the kind of perception you have formed in your mind. In any form of discussion difference of opinion with some is natural but, first try to understand what is the difference rather then jumping to conclusions without taking into account the context, if there is still a big difference of opinion then respectfully accept that rather than taking everything to the heart and making it personal. Cheers