“In the years I played, the biggest rivalry was India v Pakistan but in the last 10 years, India v Australia has taken off”: Ravi Shastri

[BouncerGuy]

Ravi Shastri speaking during a PodCast:

“I would say, in the years I played, the biggest rivalry is India v Pakistan. The interest it generates from the outside is massive. Having said that, in the last 10 years, India v Australia has taken off. In cricketing terms, India v Australia has produced some series.”

“This year, you've got record crowds into the MCG for Boxing Day. The largest number of people that came in since Don Bradman's team in 1936.”

“Now, I think that The Ashes will get a lot of people, but to upstage that you have to have a great series and probably the best crowd ever.”

 

[Mamoon]

Someone ask Australia if they share this sentiment. You only hear Indians talk about Australia vs India as the greatest rivalry in cricket. It seems like India is forcing it down their throats.

To me it’s seems like a fragile ego problem. Since Pakistan vs India rivalry is pretty much dead, Indians are not comfortable with the fact that they can no longer boast to be custodians of the biggest rivalry in cricket which is the Ashes, so they have to force the narrative that Australia vs India is the biggest rivalry now.

 

[Ball Blazer]

He's right though

It is because we don't get enough of Pak-Ind clash in cricket now, it's only limited to borders

why Aus vs Ind is one of the greatest now is visible from "silence the crowd" moments

 

[Devadwal]

Someone ask Australia if they share this sentiment. You only hear Indians talk about Australia vs India as the greatest rivalry in cricket. It seems like India is forcing it down their throats.

To me it’s seems like a fragile ego problem. Since Pakistan vs India rivalry is pretty much dead, Indians are not comfortable with the fact that they can no longer boast to be custodians of the biggest rivalry in cricket which is the Ashes, so they have to force the narrative that Australia vs India is the biggest rivalry now.

India vs Australia rivalry bigger than the Ashes: Australian PM Anthony Albanese

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese called the India vs Australia rivalry bigger than the age old rivalry of the Ashes.

www.indiatoday.in

The new Ashes? How the rivalry between Australia and India is reaching new heights

Attendances and financial returns underpin Cricket Australia’s motivation to elevate this India series and present a blueprint for the future

www.theguardian.com

The cricket rivalry between Australia and India - ABC listen

Cricket is still the national sport, he told ABC Radio Melbourne, and it's the game Australians are invested in.

www.abc.net.au

Hard to argue that Ind vs Aus isn't the biggest rivalry in world cricket: Ponting - The Statesman

With unprecedented attendance in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy between India and India, former Australia captain Ricky Ponting asserted that it's hard to argue that the rivalry between the two teams isn't the biggest in world cricket.

www.thestatesman.com

Just few examples , read the real news instead Pakistani fake propaganda news

 

[oatmeal]

Rivalry is not just about quality of teams on the field. Australia has been the far better team than England for most of last 20-25 years but they still have a fierce competition because its emotional and winning the Ashes is seen as a matter of prestige

India and Pakistan's shared history makes the rivalry fierce, not just the quality of cricket being played on the field

 

[Rajdeep]

In a rivalry, both parties need not be engaged with same intensity. Even in India vs Pakistan, mostly this rivalry, mother of all battle, El Classico etc comes from Pakistani fans & ex cricketers. Indians dont see it as rivalry anymore. Most Indians who are Gen Z's dont even want us to play Pakistan.

Even in Ashes, predominantly it is the British who were more obsessed. For a long time, it was be all and end all in cricket for them. However, for an Aussie, even though Ashes is special for them, they cared about rivarly with neighboring Kiwis, Steve Waugh was obsessed with winning a test series in India, gave equal importance to ODI world cups etc.

Shastri answered the question rightly here. We had a great rivalry with Pakistan back in the days but that is dead and buried. India's biggest rival now is against Australia and unlike Ashes it extends to all 3 formats.

 

[Pakpak]

Everytime this question is asked on Western portals all Aussies say they would lose it all to India as long as they keep winning the Ashes.

Like politics Indians are thirsty for acceptance due to a massive inferiority complex.

 

[Devadwal]

Everytime this question is asked on Western portals all Aussies say they would lose it all to India as long as they keep winning the Ashes.

Like politics Indians are thirsty for acceptance due to a massive inferiority complex.

Pakistani fans are Jealous because india leaves them so far behind and we are not care about playing with Pakistan. So your opinion doesn't matter at all when comes to India - Australia rivalry .

Stick to Babar- Gavdu Trophy ( BGT ) , That is your team standard These days .

 

[Rajdeep]

Everytime this question is asked on Western portals all Aussies say they would lose it all to India as long as they keep winning the Ashes.

Like politics Indians are thirsty for acceptance due to a massive inferiority complex.

Can you give one such example?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rivalry is not just about quality of teams on the field. Australia has been the far better team than England for most of last 20-25 years but they still have a fierce competition because its emotional and winning the Ashes is seen as a matter of prestige

India and Pakistan's shared history makes the rivalry fierce, not just the quality of cricket being played on the field

Without playing test series there is zero rivalry. India moved on from 3 tests to 4 tests to 5 test series against Australia home and away. India also plays England too.But we don't consider that as a rivalry.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Can you give one such example?

He is just making out of thin air lol

 

[Devadwal]

He is just making out of thin air lol

Taking the hint from brother @The Bald Eagle

 

[Ice Man]

Ravi Shastri speaking during a PodCast:

“This year, you've got record crowds into the MCG for Boxing Day. The largest number of people that came in since Don Bradman's team in 1936.”

“Now, I think that The Ashes will get a lot of people, but to upstage that you have to have a great series and probably the best crowd ever.”

Sounds like Ravi isn't up to date with the news. The upcoming Ashes series has already smashed ticket sales records in Australia.

 

[oatmeal]

Without playing test series there is zero rivalry. India moved on from 3 tests to 4 tests to 5 test series against Australia home and away. India also plays England too.But we don't consider that as a rivalry.

You might not consider it as a rivalry but for the layman , its the most important game of any tournament outside the final. Its the game everyone tunes in to.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

In a rivalry, both parties need not be engaged with same intensity. Even in India vs Pakistan, mostly this rivalry, mother of all battle, El Classico etc comes from Pakistani fans & ex cricketers. Indians dont see it as rivalry anymore. Most Indians who are Gen Z's dont even want us to play Pakistan.

Even in Ashes, predominantly it is the British who were more obsessed. For a long time, it was be all and end all in cricket for them. However, for an Aussie, even though Ashes is special for them, they cared about rivarly with neighboring Kiwis, Steve Waugh was obsessed with winning a test series in India, gave equal importance to ODI world cups etc.

Shastri answered the question rightly here. We had a great rivalry with Pakistan back in the days but that is dead and buried. India's biggest rival now is against Australia and unlike Ashes it extends to all 3 formats.

Yet whenever the discussion is about India vs Australia, these Gen Z Indian fans somehow start bringing up Pakistan to derail the thread. I wonder why. Instead of focusing on India vs Australia, they shift the narrative to how India has done better than Pakistan, as if that's more important. It's less about cricket and more about feeding their egos.

 

[Devadwal]

You might not consider it as a rivalry but for the layman , its the most important game of any tournament outside the final. Its the game everyone tunes in to.

India vs Pakistan champion trophy match was not The highest viewership match in Champion trophy, neither was India Vs Pakistan match in 2024 World T20 nore was in 2023 world cup

 

[Ice Man]

Someone ask Australia if they share this sentiment.

1. World Cup
2. Ashes
3. BGT

In that order for most of us. For the old timers:
1. Ashes

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

We need old users like @Convict @Gilly @Random Aussie in this thread.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yet whenever the discussion is about India vs Australia, these Gen Z Indian fans somehow start bringing up Pakistan to derail the thread. I wonder why. Instead of focusing on India vs Australia, they shift the narrative to how India has done better than Pakistan, as if that's more important. It's less about cricket and more about feeding their egos.

Don't get too senti bro. Not many in India cares about rivalry with Pakistan anymore. There are surely exceptions like you because your 'bhai bandhus' and people you like lives there. Hence you view it from that perspective. However from cricketing angle, majority of Indian cricket lovers don't see it as a rivalry anymore. How can there be any rivalry with a team like that anyway who never wins?

Social media discussions are not actual representation. It depends on the type of sites or accounts you browse. What I see is no one brings in Pakistan while discussing Ind vs Aus but you may have different experience based on your search algorithms. We need tangible proof to come to any conclusion. And there is no bigger proof than IPL which has barred any Pak players participation since 2009 and has only grown in those 16 years. If Gen Zs really cared about Pak rivalry, that will not be the case.

Only we fans who have watched cricket in 90s still love watching cricket with Pakistan due to past nostalgia. Young generation dont see it that way.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You might not consider it as a rivalry but for the layman , its the most important game of any tournament outside the final. Its the game everyone tunes in to.

It doesn't matter anymore if you are playing your supposedly historical rival only 11 times across the formats in the last 10 years.

Lat 10 years Across the formats

India vs Australia 79 matches
India vs England 66 matchces
india vs windies 62 matches
India vs SA 61 matches
India vs NZ 59 matches
India vs SL 59 matches
India vs BD 32 matches
India vs Pakistan 16 matches
India vs ZImbabwe 15 matches
India vs Afghanistan 11 matches

That is where Pakistan is in terms of rivalry with INdia

 

[jnaveen1980]

SImilarly last 10 years across the formats

Australia vs India 79 matches
Australia vs England 68 matches
Australia vs Pakistan 46 matches
Australia vs SA 44 matches
Australia vs SL 41 matches
Australia vs NZ 39 matches
Australia vs Windies 34 matches
Australia vs Bangladesh 13 matches

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Don't get too senti bro. Not many in India cares about rivalry with Pakistan anymore. There are surely exceptions like you because your 'bhai bandhus' and people you like lives there. Hence you view it from that perspective. However from cricketing angle, majority of Indian cricket lovers don't see it as a rivalry anymore. How can there be any rivalry with a team like that anyway who never wins?

Social media discussions are not actual representation. It depends on the type of sites or accounts you browse. What I see is no one brings in Pakistan while discussing Ind vs Aus but you may have different experience based on your search algorithms. We need tangible proof to come to any conclusion. And there is no bigger proof than IPL which has barred any Pak players participation since 2009 and has only grown in those 16 years. If Gen Zs really cared about Pak rivalry, that will not be the case.

Only we fans who have watched cricket in 90s still love watching cricket with Pakistan due to past nostalgia. Young generation dont see it that way.

Looks like even the ICC and sponsors who push for India vs Pakistan matches are my long-lost 'bhai bandhus'. You don't even live in India, yet you act like an expert here. Roads still go empty here during Ind vs Pak games, just like the good old 90s. Go fool someone else, Raju.

 

[mominsaigol]

1. World Cup
2. Ashes
3. BGT

In that order for most of us. For the old timers:
1. Ashes

I stated this to @uppercut and he threw a hissyfit trying to convince me you guys view T20 World Cup as tue pinnacle of success .

I even told him that I lived their for 3+ years, ik how aussies think but nahi, zid.

Now he will change the goal post by claiming Born and Bred Aussies dont know anything about their own culture

 

[RexRex]

Sounds like Ravi isn't up to date with the news. The upcoming Ashes series has already smashed ticket sales records in Australia.

Will it break the MCG world record attandance of last summer ?

 

[RexRex]

Biggest rivalry - Ashes.
Most competitive - BGT

 

[Rajdeep]

No rivalry with Pakistan because they are a rubbish cricket team.

However, it always feels great to beat them due to politics, history, leftists and jaichands. Basically, all possible reasons other than cricket. The meltdowns that follows post the game give it a greater amusement.

Ashes and Ind v Aus is a rivalry purely from bat & ball perspective.

 

[jnaveen1980]

No rivalry with Pakistan because they are a rubbish cricket team.

However, it always feels great to beat them due to politics, history, leftists and jaichands. Basically, all possible reasons other than cricket. The meltdowns that follows post the game give it a greater amusement.

Ashes and Ind v Aus is a rivalry purely from bat & ball perspective.

If you look at across the formats INdia vs Australia trump everyone. Ashes is just afor tests. England was mostlya non -entity in the Limited overs apart for a brief period.

 

[oatmeal]

It doesn't matter anymore if you are playing your supposedly historical rival only 11 times across the formats in the last 10 years.

Lat 10 years Across the formats

India vs Australia 79 matches
India vs England 66 matchces
india vs windies 62 matches
India vs SA 61 matches
India vs NZ 59 matches
India vs SL 59 matches
India vs BD 32 matches
India vs Pakistan 16 matches
India vs ZImbabwe 15 matches
India vs Afghanistan 11 matches

That is where Pakistan is in terms of rivalry with INdia

If anything, this makes the games more of a marquee event because they happen very maybe once or twice an year. A three match LOI series vs Australia at home is just another series we regularly play.

But playing Pakistan in an ICC tourney is a memorable game. it reflects in the viewership numbers, people tune in to the game more than any other game except the finals

 

[Rajdeep]

Looks like even the ICC and sponsors who push for India vs Pakistan matches are my long-lost 'bhai bandhus'. You don't even live in India, yet you act like an expert here. Roads still go empty here during Ind vs Pak games, just like the good old 90s. Go fool someone else, Raju.

@Devadwal @jnaveen1980 can you pls confirm if this is true? LOL

I was in Bangalore during T20 WC 2022 on Ind vs Pak game. It was a sunday and yet no roads were empty. I even got stuck in Koramangla traffic.

 

[mominsaigol]

No rivalry with Pakistan because they are a rubbish cricket team.

However, it always feels great to beat them due to politics, history, leftists and jaichands. Basically, all possible reasons other than cricket. The meltdowns that follows post the game give it a greater amusement.

Ashes and Ind v Aus is a rivalry purely from bat & ball perspective.

England vs India in test is also a fierce rivalry? Wdym?

I love aussies but they cant be the pinnacle of success in everything.

1) World cup
2) Ashes

BIG GAP

3) BGT
4) AT or any test between india and England or test between NZ and England, Nz or Australia, Sa vs Aus, Sa vs Eng etc etc. As long as england and Aus is involved.

Big Gap

5-6) CT and T20 wc. T20 could have been goated but every 2 years has turned it into a mickey mouse tournament followed by CT which was dead and dying and honestly will be dead anyway soon enough.

They wanted to end it in 2013. No clue why they continued beyond it.

England is just as Important as Australia in the long run of things. These 2 are the investors of cricket. Any match against them is important especially in test which is the format that started it all.

Both sides should be respected.

 

[RexRex]

India-Pakistan could have been an excellent rivalry going by what we saw in 90s but the Pakistan cricket team are too intimidated by India these days #chicken

 

[Rajdeep]

If you look at across the formats INdia vs Australia trump everyone. Ashes is just afor tests. England was mostlya non -entity in the Limited overs apart for a brief period.

Yes Ind vs Aus is a rivalry across all formats where as Eng vs Aus has no rivalry in limited overs.

There is a reason Pak posters here still rejoice when Aus beat us in WC 2023 finals. It was one of their happiest days not withstanding we mauled them in the same tournament. ROFL

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

No rivalry with Pakistan because they are a rubbish cricket team.

However, it always feels great to beat them due to politics, history, leftists and jaichands. Basically, all possible reasons other than cricket. The meltdowns that follows post the game give it a greater amusement.

Ashes and Ind v Aus is a rivalry purely from bat & ball perspective.

No rivalry with Pakistan yet you and Gen Z bachcha ( ) party spends all their day on PakPassion, comparing everything with Pakistan. We don't see this passion by Indians against their real rivals Australia. Yeah, yeah, I believe you. Who are you trying to fool, Raju?

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal @jnaveen1980 can you pls confirm if this is true? LOL

I was in Bangalore during T20 WC 2022 on Ind vs Pak game. It was a sunday and yet no roads were empty. I even got stuck in Koramangla traffic.

Must have taken the wrong road

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes Ind vs Aus is a rivalry across all formats where as Eng vs Aus has no rivalry in limited overs.

There is a reason Pak posters here still rejoice when Aus beat us in WC 2023 finals. It was one of their happiest days not withstanding we mauled them in the same tournament. ROFL

Spot on. Who can forget this series then.

Record-low MCG crowd for Australia-England ODI raise fears for future of 50-over format​

 

[jnaveen1980]

If anything, this makes the games more of a marquee event because they happen very maybe once or twice an year. A three match LOI series vs Australia at home is just another series we regularly play.

But playing Pakistan in an ICC tourney is a memorable game. it reflects in the viewership numbers, people tune in to the game more than any other game except the finals

Rarity won't make it anymore special. back when they played regularly with each other every match would be followed with serious passion

 

[Rajdeep]

England vs India in test is also a fierce rivalry? Wdym?

I love aussies but they cant be the pinnacle of success in everything.

1) World cup
2) Ashes

BIG GAP

3) BGT
4) AT or any test between india and England or test between NZ and England, Nz or Australia, Sa vs Aus, Sa vs Eng etc etc. As long as england and Aus is involved.

Big Gap

5-6) CT and T20 wc. T20 could have been goated but every 2 years has turned it into a mickey mouse tournament followed by CT which was dead and dying and honestly will be dead anyway soon enough.

They wanted to end it in 2013. No clue why they continued beyond it.

England is just as Important as Australia in the long run of things. These 2 are the investors of cricket. Any match against them is important especially in test which is the format that started it all.

Both sides should be respected.

There is no rivalry with England as far as India is concerned though ECB is trying their best to manufacture one.

Rivalry with Australia is simmering since 1998 tour when Siddhu and Tendulkar took on Warne. This followed by epic 2001 tour and then it never looked back. With England, there has been no such iconic series to kick start the rivalry.

 

[mominsaigol]

No rivalry with Pakistan yet you and Gen Z bachcha ( ) party spends all their day on PakPassion, comparing everything with Pakistan. We don't see this passion by Indians against their real rivals Australia. Yeah, yeah, I believe you. Who are you trying to fool, Raju?

This is actually why I get angry at some of these lot.

I've met Indians all across the globe. None of them post on PP, none of them are as obsessed over Pakistan.

One of my friends was an indian student and he didnt even understand anything about cricket . Another one only enjoyed the sport and cared for the game or cared for Aus matches.

I suspect most of these guys are young adults around 25 max.

Indian Adults don't behave like this.

 

[mominsaigol]

There is no rivalry with England as far as India is concerned though ECB is trying their best to manufacture one.

Rivalry with Australia is simmering since 1998 tour when Siddhu and Tendulkar took on Warne. This followed by epic 2001 tour and then it never looked back. With England, there has been no such iconic series to kick start the rivalry.

I decide what is of concern and what isn't

 

[Rajdeep]

No rivalry with Pakistan yet you and Gen Z bachcha ( ) party spends all their day on PakPassion, comparing everything with Pakistan. We don't see this passion by Indians against their real rivals Australia. Yeah, yeah, I believe you. Who are you trying to fool, Raju?

Looks like we have developed a pattern here and your counter response to everything these days seems to be - 'then what are you doing in Pakistani forum'

A - None of your business
B - Try to respond on the post and counter them factually if possible

Abdul bhai

 

[Major]

A rivalry where one group keeps saying Sar jeee

 

[jnaveen1980]

Fact that India is happy to even refuse to play legends league show the aukat of this rivalry.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Actual rivalry is going on now. Since BD beat Pakistan in Pakistan in the test series.

 

[mominsaigol]

Looks like we have developed a pattern here and your counter response to everything these days seems to be - 'then what are you doing in Pakistani forum'

A - None of your business
B - Try to respond on the post and counter them factually if possible

Abdul bhai

We should respond to all questions with None of your business as well.

Rajdeep: Hi bro

Momin: None of your business

Rajdeep: I'm working in Tesco

Momin: None of your business

Rajdeep: Today I'm getting married.

Momin: None of your Business

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Have Watched 3 or 4 Pat Cummins interview where he has refused to select a batsman from England and India over literally anyone.

There was a choice between Root, Kohli and Azam and he chose Babar and gave the reason that he will never pick a POM or an Indian.

Australian Cricket Captain thinks its a rivalry, thats it. Need no more proof.


Btw the likes of Shane Warne and Ponting wanted BGT to become a 5 test series instead of 4.

India vs Aus is the new rivalry.

Pak is finished, theres not a single world class cricketer in Pakistan.

 

[Rajdeep]

Fact that India is happy to even refuse to play legends league show the aukat of this rivalry.

Not every India was happy though

 

[Ice Man]

Will it break the MCG world record attandance of last summer ?

That depends on how many days the Test lasts obviously but thus far, the pre sale tickets for the MCG boxing day test were already sold out in June for the first time ever.

 

[Devadwal]

I stated this to @uppercut and he threw a hissyfit trying to convince me you guys view T20 World Cup as tue pinnacle of success .

I even told him that I lived their for 3+ years, ik how aussies think but nahi, zid.

Now he will change the goal post by claiming Born and Bred Aussies dont know anything about their own culture

Hahah . You said a month's ago "Any ICC events is bigger than Ashes during WTC final including WTC final > Ashes .

Caught caught

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He clearly mentioned that it's only from a cricketing POV in that podcast

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

England vs India in test is also a fierce rivalry? Wdym?

I love aussies but they cant be the pinnacle of success in everything.

1) World cup
2) Ashes

BIG GAP

3) BGT
4) AT or any test between india and England or test between NZ and England, Nz or Australia, Sa vs Aus, Sa vs Eng etc etc. As long as england and Aus is involved.

Big Gap

5-6) CT and T20 wc. T20 could have been goated but every 2 years has turned it into a mickey mouse tournament followed by CT which was dead and dying and honestly will be dead anyway soon enough.

They wanted to end it in 2013. No clue why they continued beyond it.

England is just as Important as Australia in the long run of things. These 2 are the investors of cricket. Any match against them is important especially in test which is the format that started it all.

Both sides should be respected.

There is a big gap between BGT and the other test series that you listed below it.

 

[mominsaigol]

Have Watched 3 or 4 Pat Cummins interview where he has refused to select a batsman from England and India over literally anyone.

There was a choice between Root, Kohli and Azam and he chose Babar and gave the reason that he will never pick a POM or an Indian.

Australian Cricket Captain thinks its a rivalry, thats it. Need no more proof.


Btw the likes of Shane Warne and Ponting wanted BGT to become a 5 test series instead of 4.

India vs Aus is the new rivalry.

Pak is finished, theres not a single world class cricketer in Pakistan.

England as well.

Big 3. England will bounce back in odi and t20 eventually. They are facing issues in bowling stocks. Not batting.

Their batting in odi and t20 is simply in transition atm.

 

[mominsaigol]

There is a big gap between BGT and the other test series that you listed below it.

Alright

 

[jnaveen1980]

That depends on how many days the Test lasts obviously but thus far, the pre sale tickets for the MCG boxing day test were already sold out in June for the first time ever.

Noteworthy attendances AT THE G​

1,153,000	15-day aggregate for 1956 Olympic Games
373,691	Record Test match attendance (2024 Boxing Day Test - Australia v India over five days)
350,534	Previous record Test match attendance (1936-37 New Year's Test - Australia v England over six days)
130,000	Billy Graham crusade, 1959 (Est.)
121,696	1970 VFL Grand Final, Carlton v Collingwood
120,000	Final ceremony Eucharistic Congress, 1973

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Looks like we have developed a pattern here and your counter response to everything these days seems to be - 'then what are you doing in Pakistani forum'

A - None of your business
B - Try to respond on the post and counter them factually if possible

Abdul bhai

The only consistent pattern here is you backing out of conversations every time I hold up a mirror and you coming up with 'meri marzi', 'none of your business'. Ram Lal, we are discussing rivalries, and the point I raised is valid, it highlights the hypocrisy of fans who camp here 24/7 yet claim there is no rivalry with Pakistan. Don't dismiss it by saying it's none of my business. Respond logically.

Why don't we see the same Gen Z bachcha party on Australian forums, obsessively comparing India vs Australia head-to-head or World Cup records? Go ahead, answer that, Ramu bhai.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Noteworthy attendances AT THE G​

1,153,000	15-day aggregate for 1956 Olympic Games
373,691	Record Test match attendance (2024 Boxing Day Test - Australia v India over five days)
350,534	Previous record Test match attendance (1936-37 New Year's Test - Australia v England over six days)
130,000	Billy Graham crusade, 1959 (Est.)
121,696	1970 VFL Grand Final, Carlton v Collingwood
120,000	Final ceremony Eucharistic Congress, 1973

/thread

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

There is no cricketing rivalry anymore between India and Pakistan, its just a political one. Pakistan is not a quality team.

 

[Devadwal]

@Devadwal @jnaveen1980 can you pls confirm if this is true? LOL

I was in Bangalore during T20 WC 2022 on Ind vs Pak game. It was a sunday and yet no roads were empty. I even got stuck in Koramangla traffic.

Gone are the day . This was true during 2003, 2011 World Cup but after that its another match for Indian fans where india most of time win with one sided affair.

In The last 10 years as Ravi Shastri said india - Australia rivalry reached at the new hight and rightly so .

 

[jnaveen1980]

There is no cricketing rivalry anymore between India and Pakistan, its just a political one. Pakistan is not a quality team.

In the 2000s and before there was genuine rivalry. Definite competition. Nowadays they are reduced to cheering for Australia, NEw zeaaland, England, Iceland , Greenland to beat India.

 

[mominsaigol]

The only consistent pattern here is you backing out of conversations every time I hold up a mirror and you coming up with 'meri marzi', 'none of your business'. Ram Lal, we are discussing rivalries, and the point I raised is valid, it highlights the hypocrisy of fans who camp here 24/7 yet claim there is no rivalry with Pakistan. Don't dismiss it by saying it's none of my business. Respond logically.

Why don't we see the same Gen Z bachcha party on Australian forums, obsessively comparing India vs Australia head-to-head or World Cup records? Go ahead, answer that, Ramu bhai.

Bro just ask @Ice Man . These morons dont wanna listen to me because of the whole Pakistani nonsense deapite living their in Aus.

India is a nation that Aus is neutral towards and enjoys playing cricket against but they dont view them > ashes or world cup as a whole.

BGT is a marketing hype nothing more despite what the likes of @jeeteshssaxena who likely has never stepped foot in aus will claim.

Ofcourse the number is going to be record breaking when close to 800,000 indians live in aus as well as extremely easy travel rights to aus for Indians and it being a popular destination.

1.4B indians lol. Anything they attend will be record breaking. Their were more blue jerseys and brown people in the stadium then local Aussies hence the high count.

Ashes is a historic rivalry edged in history whole BGT is a gimmick. Granted its a competitive gimmick as India has done extremely well to one up Australia in recent times.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I must say these Kohli worship by Pakistan cricketers has reduced whatever rivalrly left to a comedy show.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Fact that India is happy to even refuse to play legends league show the aukat of this rivalry.

Let India first boycott Pakistan in ICC tournaments, gift them two points, and then come talk big.

 

[Ice Man]

Noteworthy attendances AT THE G​

1,153,000	15-day aggregate for 1956 Olympic Games
373,691	Record Test match attendance (2024 Boxing Day Test - Australia v India over five days)
350,534	Previous record Test match attendance (1936-37 New Year's Test - Australia v England over six days)
130,000	Billy Graham crusade, 1959 (Est.)
121,696	1970 VFL Grand Final, Carlton v Collingwood
120,000	Final ceremony Eucharistic Congress, 1973

Not sure of the point of the post, mate.

I am aware the Australia vs India MCG attendance record was over 5 days. My point was that the Australia vs England MCG test match will also need to last the 5 days to actually challenge it but judging by the demand thus far, things look to be pointing towards that direction sales wise.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not sure of the point of the post, mate.

I am aware the Australia vs India MCG attendance record was over 5 days. My point was the Australia vs England will also need to last the 5 days to actually challenge it but judging by the demand thus far, things look to be pointing towards that direction sales wise.

You heard it from ehre. It is not goign to get anywhere close to that figures.

 

[Ice Man]

You heard it from ehre. It is not goign to get anywhere close to that figures.

Sorry what, I heard what from here?

 

[Devadwal]

Bro just ask @Ice Man . These morons dont wanna listen to me because of the whole Pakistani nonsense deapite living their in Aus.

India is a nation that Aus is neutral towards and enjoys playing cricket against but they dont view them > ashes or world cup as a whole.

BGT is a marketing hype nothing more despite what the likes of @jeeteshssaxena who likely has never stepped foot in aus will claim.

Ofcourse the number is going to be record breaking when close to 800,000 indians live in aus as well as extremely easy travel rights to aus for Indians and it being a popular destination.

1.4B indians lol. Anything they attend will be record breaking. Their were more blue jerseys and brown people in the stadium then local Aussies hence the high count.

Ashes is a historic rivalry edged in history whole BGT is a gimmick. Granted its a competitive gimmick as India has done extremely well to one up Australia in recent times.

Wannabe Pakistani fans opinion doesn't matter here when comes to rivalry between Australia and india . Keep strict to Pakistan team rivalry with Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan etc .

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro just ask @Ice Man . These morons dont wanna listen to me because of the whole Pakistani nonsense deapite living their in Aus.

India is a nation that Aus is neutral towards and enjoys playing cricket against but they dont view them > ashes or world cup as a whole.

BGT is a marketing hype nothing more despite what the likes of @jeeteshssaxena who likely has never stepped foot in aus will claim.

Ofcourse the number is going to be record breaking when close to 800,000 indians live in aus as well as extremely easy travel rights to aus for Indians and it being a popular destination.

1.4B indians lol. Anything they attend will be record breaking. Their were more blue jerseys and brown people in the stadium then local Aussies hence the high count.

Ashes is a historic rivalry edged in history whole BGT is a gimmick. Granted its a competitive gimmick as India has done extremely well to one up Australia in recent times.

Here comes the idiot @Devadwal who will now claim he knows more about Australia then actual Australians on this forumn

 

[mominsaigol]

Sorry what, I heard what from here?

Heard it from a USA national. America is gracious to have indian representatives on this forumn.

 

[Rajdeep]

The only consistent pattern here is you backing out of conversations every time I hold up a mirror and you coming up with 'meri marzi', 'none of your business'. Ram Lal, we are discussing rivalries, and the point I raised is valid, it highlights the hypocrisy of fans who camp here 24/7 yet claim there is no rivalry with Pakistan. Don't dismiss it by saying it's none of my business. Respond logically.

Why don't we see the same Gen Z bachcha party on Australian forums, obsessively comparing India vs Australia head-to-head or World Cup records? Go ahead, answer that, Ramu bhai.

Handful of Indian posters here don't represent all Indian cricket fans. I am sure 99.99% of Gen Zs dont know these forums even exists. You can call it a hypocrisy (if you are that desperate ) personally to Indian posters like us but it is not a representation of Ind vs Pak cricket rivalry. LMAO

Now the question of why handful of us post here instead of Aussie forums, it is due to common culture. We will of course feel more at home here than debating with Aussies. For example, I am a bengali and I used to be very active in Bangla forum before they shut that down. That was my most go to forum once upon a time. Not because BD is India's great rival but because I understand their culture and fun to debate or even troll them. Additionally, this forum gives us platform to discuss various non cricket topics in TP section where half of it is India related. I cannot discuss namazis been kicked in UP road in Australian cricket forum na?

Not sure which part of Ravi Shatri's comment made you so upset. He is right that during his playing days when Pakistan used to be a top team, they were biggest rivals of Indians. However, now that baton is passed to Australia. It is a fact and majority of Indians feels the same way. Pakistan need to improve their cricket rather than their fans like you getting angry on us for calling spade a spade.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Sorry what, I heard what from here?

THe crowd size over 5 days. I am sure the match will be over in 3 days lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

Handful of Indian posters here don't represent all Indian cricket fans. I am sure 99.99% of Gen Zs dont know these forums even exists. You can call it a hypocrisy (if you are that desperate ) personally to Indian posters like us but it is not a representation of Ind vs Pak cricket rivalry. LMAO

Now the question of why handful of us post here instead of Aussie forums, it is due to common culture. We will of course feel more at home here than debating with Aussies. For example, I am a bengali and I used to be very active in Bangla forum before they shut that down. That was my most go to forum once upon a time. Not because BD is India's great rival but because I understand their culture and fun to debate or even troll them. Additionally, this forum gives us platform to discuss various non cricket topics in TP section where half of it is India related. I cannot discuss namazis been kicked in UP road in Australian cricket forum na?

Not sure which part of Ravi Shatri's comment made you so upset. He is right that during his playing days when Pakistan used to be a top team, they were biggest rivals of Indians. However, now that baton is passed to Australia. It is a fact and majority of Indians feels the same way. Pakistan need to improve their cricket rather than their fans like you getting angry on us for calling spade a spade.

There is no real Aussie forum. They had long back which i was part of. But activity was extremely limited. I have been part of every single cricket forum. But India/Pakistan to some extent West Indies have the only active forums.

 

[Ice Man]

THe crowd size over 5 days. I am sure the match will be over in 3 days lol

So you are saying an Australian who lives in Australia and is a cricket fan wouldn't be aware of such a record and that he would need to read it on a non-Australian cricket forum to become aware?

As for the second thing you mentioned, that is actually the point I was trying to make. It still doesn't change the fact that the upcoming Ashes series has already smashed ticket sales records.

 

[mominsaigol]

Handful of Indian posters here don't represent all Indian cricket fans. I am sure 99.99% of Gen Zs dont know these forums even exists. You can call it a hypocrisy (if you are that desperate ) personally to Indian posters like us but it is not a representation of Ind vs Pak cricket rivalry. LMAO

Now the question of why handful of us post here instead of Aussie forums, it is due to common culture. We will of course feel more at home here than debating with Aussies. For example, I am a bengali and I used to be very active in Bangla forum before they shut that down. That was my most go to forum once upon a time. Not because BD is India's great rival but because I understand their culture and fun to debate or even troll them. Additionally, this forum gives us platform to discuss various non cricket topics in TP section where half of it is India related. I cannot discuss namazis been kicked in UP road in Australian cricket forum na?

Not sure which part of Ravi Shatri's comment made you so upset. He is right that during his playing days when Pakistan used to be a top team, they were biggest rivals of Indians. However, now that baton is passed to Australia. It is a fact and majority of Indians feels the same way. Pakistan need to improve their cricket rather than their fans like you getting angry on us for calling spade a spade.

I'm Gen Z lol.

So you feel more at home here? Pakistani's hate you . How is that homely .

Lastly im aware of that aussie forumn. Indians infest it too but over their indians are more civil for obvious reasons. Mainly cause despite all the bravado india sucks up to the west.

. You're not fooling anyone. Over their you have to be civil or insta ban.

You live in england and I studied their for 3 years. Indians badly sucked up to British citizens it wasnt even funny. Same is the case with Australia.

Canada and USA is where they dont suck up but they use to. Canada to a certain extent still. USA not so much.

 

[mominsaigol]

So you are saying an Australian who lives in Australia and is a cricket fan wouldn't be aware of such a record and that he would need to read it on a non-Australian cricket forum to become aware?

As for the second thing you mentioned, that is actually the point I was trying to make. It still doesn't change the fact that the upcoming Ashes series has already smashed ticket sales records.

Yes, you should know by now only America India is the absolute truth.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So you are saying an Australian who lives in Australia and is a cricket fan wouldn't be aware of such a record and that he would need to read it on a non-Australian cricket forum to become aware?

As for the second thing you mentioned, that is actually the point I was trying to make. It still doesn't change the fact that the upcoming Ashes series has already smashed ticket sales records.

You are dancing around here lol Do you firmly believe boxing day test will shatter this 2024 5 day crowd record? Yes or no.

 

[RexRex]

THe crowd size over 5 days. I am sure the match will be over in 3 days lol

I'd say 4 days before Eng combust .. so about 360k crowd max, still short of the record.

 

[Ice Man]

You are dancing around here lol Do you firmly believe boxing day test will shatter this 2024 5 day crowd record? Yes or no.

Dancing around what, mate?

If the match is over in 3 days, how is it supposed to beat a 5 day total attendance record?

Or are you asking me, if the match goes for the full 5 days will it beat the existing 5 day total record?

 

[jnaveen1980]

I'd say 4 days before Eng combust .. so about 360k crowd max, still short of the record.

Indian diaspora is massive lol There were 87000 people watching India vs ZImbabwe world T20, 2022 match. Australia vs England barely had anyone in the same tournament. 37000 crowd. To cap it off match got rained off

 

[Vikram1989]

I must say these Kohli worship by Pakistan cricketers has reduced whatever rivalrly left to a comedy show.

Hardik pandya , kuldeep publicly quipping pak batsmen are scared (cowards ) and literally allowed to dictate them reflects their minnow mentality.no one from pak even tried to reject it and accepted silently.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Someone ask Australia if they share this sentiment. You only hear Indians talk about Australia vs India as the greatest rivalry in cricket. It seems like India is forcing it down their throats.

To me it’s seems like a fragile ego problem. Since Pakistan vs India rivalry is pretty much dead, Indians are not comfortable with the fact that they can no longer boast to be custodians of the biggest rivalry in cricket which is the Ashes, so they have to force the narrative that Australia vs India is the biggest rivalry now.

Jesus Christ with that kind of reach I am sure you can scratch your left ear with your right hand from behind your head.

You could just examine attendance of events, viewership records and understand that the two richest cricket boards who also happen to have the top two teams in all formats would have a tense rivalry.

 

[captain.hansolo]

I'm Gen Z lol.

So you feel more at home here? Pakistani's hate you . How is that homely .

Lastly im aware of that aussie forumn. Indians infest it too but over their indians are more civil for obvious reasons. Mainly cause despite all the bravado india sucks up to the west.

. You're not fooling anyone. Over their you have to be civil or insta ban.

You live in england and I studied their for 3 years. Indians badly sucked up to British citizens it wasnt even funny. Same is the case with Australia.

Canada and USA is where they dont suck up but they use to. Canada to a certain extent still. USA not so much.

There not their. You did study in England for three years after all.

Made that mistake twice in two sentences. Makes me wonder whether you do know the appropriate usage.