3rd ODI: Pak A vs. Aus A thread

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what the hell is Mohammed Asif doing?

why does he keep stealing the strike at the end of the over?

 

[Monsee]

Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already

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Bazid gone. Asif was putting to much pressure on him by giving him just one ball per over. Great stuff by Asif!

176 all out.

 

[fair_play]

pity.

think if he had got his 100 he would opened his shoulders and the match might have been fun.

stupid batting by mohammad asif there.

 

[kayanni]

thing is if you take out Bazid's 95 then the remaining 9 batters and Mr Extras scored 81 runs between them - pathetic batting

So it seems Butt, Malik, Gul, Raza and Bazid have cemented their postions in the first team squad

 

[Monsee]

So did we miss Mr. Bits-n-pieces player today or what

 

[IMMY69]

i cant imagine how people can blame asif (no.11) for his stupid batting!!! are people out of their minds?

if asif was taking a single at the end of each over then surely all bazid had to do was to turn down the single..

anyway good knock by bazid khan..surely now a contender for the opening position in the test line-up.

 

[yk]

Did the aussies get a trophy?

 

[Hash]

Overall a pretty decent tour for Pakistan.

Mohammed Sami
Bazid Khan
Shoaib Malik
Umar Gul

to name a few of the players hwo have shown some good touch.

 

[brumy-boy]

I dont think you can blame a no.11 batsman. like some one said Bazid should've declined the single. At any rate the game was gone, how many more blows would Bazid get if he'd got over his 100.

I wonder if he is opening batsman material. I saw the highlights of the first game which someone kindly provided a link for and noticed that the top order batsmen have a problem if not knowning which ball to leave, all the balls they got out to should have been left - simple. Even in a one day game there is plenty of time and if you've left 6-10 balls so what - you can easily make them up when your're and seeing the ball nicely and scoring heavily.

You need a good temparament to build an innnings - which Bazid does have from what we have seen today. However I agree there are questions marks of his technique to play as a genuine opening or middle order batsman.

 

[brumy-boy]

btw - can we get a link to the 2nd & 3rd ODI highlights ??

 

[fair_play]

I dont think you can blame a no.11 batsman. like some one said Bazid should've declined the single. At any rate the game was gone, how many more blows would Bazid get if he'd got over his 100.

I wonder if he is opening batsman material. I saw the highlights of the first game which someone kindly provided a link for and noticed that the top order batsmen have a problem if not knowning which ball to leave, all the balls they got out to should have been left - simple. Even in a one day game there is plenty of time and if you've left 6-10 balls so what - you can easily make them up when your're and seeing the ball nicely and scoring heavily.

You need a good temparament to build an innnings - which Bazid does have from what we have seen today. However I agree there are questions marks of his technique to play as a genuine opening or middle order batsman.

If Bazid has question marks over his technique then trust me the other guys have even more question marks.

Certainly, those question marks dont seem to have raised their heads today eh? It wasnt like it was a chancy innings either. Perfectly conceived and perfectly executed.

Apart from the question marks you see, and apart from liking his temperament, is there anything in terms of ability and technique you do like?

I am curious. Lets talk about his strenghts for a change. Does he have any unusual strenghts, is there something that strikes you?

 

[brumy-boy]

I'm certainly happy to see someone who has patience in todays game to construct an innings so that really is a plus. He didnt have the support today otherwise he would've made a century.

Dont get me wrong - all players get better with time and experience. When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.

And to me it seems that a number of players (not all by any means) are one-dimensional. They are either good on the off or leg.

I saw some aussies this year in the ashes which had the same characteristics.

Any how i think it is good to see Bazid doing well and he has good defensive technique and scoring ability so he may able to adapt to the test match opening spot or even ODI.

The main problem for some of our players is insecurity - they need a good run so that they can play knowing that they will be persevered and will be show what they are made off.

But also remember that in the ODI and test games a successful batsman now requires all the following capabilities and anything less, he really has to work hard;

Temparament/patience - ability to play under pressure and take the offensive approach when possible
technique - able to play conventional swing, reverse, seam and quality spin bowling
Contruction of an innings - having short milestones
Good communications with our partner
to name a few

So I would like to hope that Bazid will be perservered with and given the chance to flourish and develop his game.

 

[fair_play]

When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.

And to me it seems that a number of players (not all by any means) are one-dimensional. They are either good on the off or leg.

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Well maybe you watched just one innings and made hasty judgement.

Here's a link of a couple of off-side boundaries from the same West Indian tour - posted by Monsee. Just click on the green link and it will pop up.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=8932

 

[Monsee]

I'm certainly happy to see someone who has patience in todays game to construct an innings so that really is a plus. He didnt have the support today otherwise he would've made a century.

Dont get me wrong - all players get better with time and experience. When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.

I suggest you see a few shots he played in the "Bazid Khan Clips" thread

 

[Somali Pirate]

so on a good batting track the batting collapses.It seems this disease is prevalent in pakistan

 

[Monsee]

so on a good batting track the batting collapses.It seems this disease is prevalent in pakistan

Took you quite a while to notice that, eh

Could have asked me a while ago...no wonder you keep putting players down that are no worse than the ones who are not in the Senior team

 

[brumy-boy]

thanks for the clips - yes he looks good.

I agree he looks a very good candidate for the future - i hope PAK keep faith in him and develop him. Someone said Hasan raza and Bazid for the future - I hope so too.

I just hope that players are given a fair chance to prove themselves - thats it. The coach should work out strategies for them to improve and they should work hard at them and when given the chance they are in a better position to deliver!!!

 

[Somali Pirate]

Took you quite a while to notice that, eh

Could have asked me a while ago...no wonder you keep putting players down that are no worse than the ones who are not in the Senior team

well i just came from uni right now so i did'nt catch up

 

[fair_play]

well i just came from uni right now so i did'nt catch up

Are you from Pindi and studying Maths and physics in London?

 

[Monsee]

He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories

 

[Toony™®]

so , we lost eh?

good thing i went to sleep.

 

[fair_play]

He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories

Well I hold degrees in Maths and theoretical physics as well (both from the US and the UK) and was hoping maybe he was just having a bad day at the office, and I could reason with him.

He has ignored my point about Bazid making 647 runs in 12 successive outings for Pakistan A or Pakistan at an average of 64.7

He is still going by his assertion of "one swallow does not a summer make!"

 

[Nauman]

I just hope that players are given a fair chance to prove themselves - thats it. The coach should work out strategies for them to improve and they should work hard at them and when given the chance they are in a better position to deliver!!!

This is Pakistan we are talking about there are only 2 players in past 10 years of Pakistan cricket which have been given consistent chances without performing namely Sami and Afridi (though he has started to show a bit of consistency).

 

[Somali Pirate]

He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories

 

[Somali Pirate]

Well I hold degrees in Maths and theoretical physics as well (both from the US and the UK) and was hoping maybe he was just having a bad day at the office, and I could reason with him.

He has ignored my point about Bazid making 647 runs in 12 successive outings for Pakistan A or Pakistan at an average of 64.7

He is still going by his assertion of "one swallow does not a summer make!"

no bro, i specialise in bio medics.

Just think bazid ain't cut for an out an out opener.23 of 25 in the middle order against wi ain't that great.

he has to compete with raza or kamal for a miidle order place

 

[fair_play]

no bro, i specialise in bio medics.

Just think bazid ain't cut for an out an out opener.23 of 25 in the middle order against wi ain't that great.

he has to compete with raza or kamal for a miidle order place

Aha, I should have realised the bio-medics.

Serge Lang, well known mathematician at Yale, has estimated that if dubious statistics and erroneous conclusions were properly indentified in most biologiocal/medical research then 75% of all medical research papers would be thrown out of libraries, freeing up much needed shelf space.

Tread on statistics with care - and dont use exceptions to prove the rule does not hold.

The study of correlation is critical in medicine - often porrly used - but you seem to be chucking even that away!

 

[Somali Pirate]

Aha, I should have realised the bio-medics.

Serge Lang, well known mathematician at Yale, has estimated that if dubious statistics and erroneous conclusions were properly indentified in most biologiocal/medical research then 75% of all medical research papers would be thrown out of libraries, freeing up much needed shelf space.

Tread on statistics with care - and dont use exceptions to prove the rule does not hold.

The study of correlation is critical in medicine - often porrly used - but you seem to be chucking even that away!

There goes my degree.

But i am not doing any research....who would any way?
Just want to work in the nhs as medical Lab officer.With govt increasing health service budget i thought it's a good career move

But i can't believe we are doing stats this year.What does god damn math go to do with human sciences?

 

[fair_play]

There goes my degree.

But i am not doing any research....who would any way?
Just want to work in the nhs as medical Lab officer.With govt increasing health service budget i thought it's a good career move

But i can't believe we are doing stats this year.What does god damn math go to do with human sciences?

Because you need to understand how conclusion are reached.

In science, cause and effect is established by studying correlations. Of course, postive correlations dont imply cause and effect - so the converse isnt true.

I think I'm going to stick to BUPA rather than the NHS from now on....

 

[brumy-boy]

This is Pakistan we are talking about there are only 2 players in past 10 years of Pakistan cricket which have been given consistent chances without performing namely Sami and Afridi (though he has started to show a bit of consistency).

that might be true - but look at who has supported them - there has never been a professional coaching approach in pakistan like that has begun under bob, i think this is a good start and i really hope we can as much as possible emulate the systems of australia and england.

I know its not that easy but I hope that one day it will become a reality.

If you like at other teams there are players who emerged that needed time to flourish even Freddie has taken his time to become the star he is today.

So during the 90s i believe these guys got chances but not all the time and therefore were not able to develop properly - add to that the lack of proper coaching like that you see in australia or england and south africa!!!

So no wonder they have taken so long and still trying to find consistency in their game.

 

[fair_play]

Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already

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Hahaha!

Maybe that explains the maturity in his batting!

 

[akpower]

y do we have to bring back taufeeq's name in all the time. i think we can move on... it will be interesting to see who will open. we dont even have one SET opener. Salman i think honestly needs more time. he is an outstanding prospect but he's styll got some issues with his batting. Although pretty much everyone of our youngsters does.

honsetly wouldnt mind if malik is played in tests as opener. and early indicators suggest even Salman is going nowhere. in any case, Raza n Bazid shd most definetely be in the picture, i mean they shd be in the squad. Asim Kamal, on the other hand, has not done himself any good by not really doing anything of notice in the last few matches he's played.

 

[Monsee]

Hahaha!

Maybe that explains the maturity in his batting!

And what's up with that Shirt Collar...can it be any bigger than that

Maybe he borrowed one from somebody for the pic

In the pic he looks like someone who just lost his job, his Begum left him for the Meikaay, is utterly depressed, and has been doing shots of a certain liquid of choice

 

[Fawad]

And what's up with that Shirt Collar...can it be any bigger than that

Maybe he borrowed one from somebody for the pic

In the pic he looks like someone who just lost his job, his Begum left him for the Meikaay, is utterly depressed, and has been doing shots of a certain liquid of choice

Kind of reminds me of Al Pacino in Scarface.

 

[Monsee]

Kind of reminds me of Al Pacino in Scarface.

Right on the money "My Little Friend"

 

[Easa]

Right on the money "My Little Friend"

hAhA yEAH )

 

[Salman]

Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already

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More like Herman Munster!