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Have you Performed Hajj or Umrah?

Have you Performed Hajj or Umrah ?

  • Yes I have performed Hajj

    Votes: 3 6.7%

  • Yes I have performed Umrah

    Votes: 14 31.1%

  • I have performed Hajj and Umrah

    Votes: 6 13.3%

  • I have not yet performed either

    Votes: 22 48.9%
  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .
Bewal Express said:
Are you a kaffir? A Christian? A Hindu? What are you? Or just bitter
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@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam
  1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
  2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
  3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that
I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"
 
LordJames said:
@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam
  1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
  2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
  3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that
I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"
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What is it about these ex Muslims that they are always look for validation. If you have left Islam, well you have made your bed, lie in it.
 
LordJames said:
@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam
  1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
  2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
  3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that
I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"
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I thought he was some Hindutuva that is here to troll.
 
Bewal Express said:
I thought he was some Hindutuva that is here to troll.
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Here are two links where "Ex-Muslims" who are Muftees and Hafiz join on a weekly basis
Half the time, these "Muftees" and "Scholars" think that Maghrib is 4 Rakaat and whenever anyone wants to have a laugh in Urdu/English, feel free to listen to "Ex-Muslims"...

You will also hear from "Hindtuva" who are embarrassed to describe their religious preferences and hide behind "Atheism" or "Nothing" or "still researching" and then it goes downhill from there

Its good Saturday night entertainment
 
LordJames said:
Here are two links where "Ex-Muslims" who are Muftees and Hafiz join on a weekly basis
Half the time, these "Muftees" and "Scholars" think that Maghrib is 4 Rakaat and whenever anyone wants to have a laugh in Urdu/English, feel free to listen to "Ex-Muslims"...

You will also hear from "Hindtuva" who are embarrassed to describe their religious preferences and hide behind "Atheism" or "Nothing" or "still researching" and then it goes downhill from there

Its good Saturday night entertainment
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I never take these losers seriously. They have left and found nothing except anger towards the Muslims. They act as if they are jilted lovers, always looking to get some "revenge". They will never get closure on this earth and face the fire in the hereafter.
 
Bewal Express said:
It looks like statistics isn't your strong point.
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Apparently falsification is yours though.

Do away with capital punishment for apostasy. And let true statistics emerge.

Net growth of "muslim" bucket is a regressive trend. Already evidenced by emptied mosques.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Apparently falsification is yours though.

Do away with capital punishment for apostasy. And let true statistics emerge.

Net growth of "muslim" bucket is a regressive trend. Already evidenced by emptied mosques.
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So you really think people are staying in Islam because of the fear of the apostasy punishment( which btw i don't agree with or is widely practiced). How do you explain the huge growth in the West? What are they fearing? I have seen some Iranians leave Islam but no one cares.🤣🤣🤣
We have 1000s join Islam each year and more are joining daily.
 
Likewise zero cares for paedophiles, rapists, murderers in western jails converting to islam.

These are low hanging fruits. Remind me once technological advances are made by the converted, who are creme-dela-creme.

Quality over quantity. For context, there are 20bil rats as of today. Much more than followers of all-inclusive religions.
 
Hajj 2025: PM Shehbaz to request Saudi facilitation for 67,000 pilgrims

Prime Minister (PM) Shehbaz Sharif said that Saudi Arabia’s authorities would be approached and requested to facilitate 67,000 Pakistanis, whose participation in Hajj 2025 seems unlikely due to delays in agreements and payments to the Saudi government.

Chairing a meeting on the issue, the prime minister said that every possible effort would be made to resolve the issue and ensure the pilgrims’ journey to the holy sites.

Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Sardar Muhammad Yousaf, members of Senate’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs, and the Hajj Organizers Association of Pakistan (HOAP) representatives also attended the meeting.

PM Shehbaz expressed his displeasure over the Hajj crisis and directed the authorities to take all possible steps to resolve the issue. He assured the delegation that he would take up the matter with Saudi authorities to obtain permission for the pilgrims under the private quota.

The prime minister expressed his distress over the issue, saying it was a matter of shame for them. He directed the authorities to contact Saudi officials to facilitate the pilgrims.

The delegation apprised the prime minister of the situation and requested his intervention to send the pilgrims to Hajj 2025.


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Hajj 2025: PM Shehbaz to request Saudi facilitation for 67,000 pilgrims

PM Shehbaz said that Saudi Arabia’s authorities would be requested for 67,000 Pakistanis, whose participation in Hajj 2025 seems unlikely
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Pakistan requests Saudi nod for 67,000 pilgrims to perform Hajj 2025

The Ministry of Religious Affairs once again approached Saudi authorities to permit Hajj 2025 for pilgrims who may miss the pilgrimage due to delays in agreements and payments to the Saudi government, making a final appeal on their behalf.

This effort serves as a last opportunity to ensure Hajj participation for 67,000 Pakistani pilgrims, with a commitment to adhere strictly to future deadlines and regulations.

In the appeal written in both English and Urdu, it has been highlighted that many pilgrims are old, and this would perhaps be their last chance to accomplish their religious responsibility.

These pilgrims were earlier excluded due to delays and mismanagement by private tour operators, which caused their removal from the Hajj 2025 measures.

As per reports, Saudi Arabia has recently approved an additional 2,078 Pakistani pilgrims cleared to perform Hajj 2025, diminishing the number of impacted almost 65,000.


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Pakistan requests Saudi nod for 67,000 pilgrims to perform Hajj 2025

The Ministry of Religious Affairs once again approached Saudi authorities to permit Hajj 2025 for pilgrims who may miss the pilgrimage due to delays in
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38,229 Pakistani Haj pilgrims under govt scheme landed in Saudi Arabia so far

The Pakistan Haj Mission (PHM) has welcomed 38,229 pilgrims in Saudi Arabia (Madina and Makkah) under the government scheme since the start of the month-long pre-Haj flight operation on April 29.

These pilgrims arrived via 143 flights under the government scheme, while 3,440 more intending pilgrims through 13 flights will reach the holy land today, said Muhammad Umar Butt, a spokesman for the Ministry of Religious Affairs.

Sharing the details with APP, he said that there are five scheduled flights from Lahore, four from Karachi, three from Islamabad and one from Multan today.

This year, the PHM will host over 88,380 pilgrims under the government scheme and more than 23,000 under the private scheme.

He said that as possession of the Nusuk Card is a mandatory requirement for entering Haram Sharif, the pilgrims are being given these through Tawafa Company Al-Rajhi, responsible for facilitating Pakistani pilgrims during Haj, soon after their arrival.

The PHM is utilising Pak Haj App, two toll-free helplines 8002450028 and 8002450029 and WhatsApp numbers (+923700037425 and +923700037427 for prompt resolution of the pilgrims’ complaints.

Additionally, the spokesman said two central hospitals (one each at Makkah and Madina) and 11 dispensaries (nine in Makkah and two in Madina) are providing medical facilities to pilgrims, with 303 doctors and medical staff on duty.

The PHM’s main hospitals are equipped with modern facilities, including ambulances, laboratories, X-ray machines, ultrasound machines, ECG machines, minor operating theatres and separate wards for men and women and isolation wards.

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Cricket Warrior said:
Private Hajj organizers reveal they have Rs200 billion stuck in Saudi Arabia

Members of the Hajj & Umrah Organisers Association Pakistan have made a startling revelation in the ongoing Hajj controversy — potentially involving around 67,000 intending pilgrims who have not been issued Saudi visas and risk not only missing the Hajj but also losing money.

During a press conference in Peshawar, Kamran Zaib, a representative of the organisers, disclosed that Hajj organizers had transferred over 2.5 billion Saudi Riyal (SAR) to Saudi Arabia.

Earlier, it was reported that SAR480 million (PKR36 billion) collected from intending pilgrims had been transferred to Saudi Arabia and paid for various service including hotels.

However, Kamran Zaib revealed that the amount stood at SAR2.67 billion (nearly PKRs200 billion) and included money from both intending pilgrims and the organizers. Some of the organizers sent money to Saudi Arabia believing they would collect it from the pilgrims later, he said.

Kamran Zaib also said money collected from overseas Pakistanis, who formed 30 percent of the nearly 89,000 pilgrims, also included in the amount.

Kamran Zaib said Rs220 million had been paid in advance tax to the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), and another Rs1.58 billion had been transferred to the Ministry of Religious Affairs. He stressed that despite meeting all official requirements, the government has failed to provide any clear process for the return of collected funds.

Funds accepted beyond deadline, questions raised
Zaib further stated that even after the February 14 deadline, payments continued to be accepted. “If the deadline had passed, why were funds still being collected?” he questioned.


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Private Hajj organizers reveal they have Rs200 billion stuck in Saudi Arabia

The amount include money from intending pilgrim, including overseas Pakistanis
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Sounds like a massive scam
 
Bewal Express said:
What is it about these ex Muslims that they are always look for validation. If you have left Islam, well you have made your bed, lie in it.
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Ever heard of an ex-Christian or ex Jew? No, because these ex Muslims have to always announce to the world that they are ex Muslims. Why? Because they are pathetic attention seekers and the fact that they are an ex Muslim is their identity.
 
The_KING said:
Ever heard of an ex-Christian or ex Jew? No, because these ex Muslims have to always announce to the world that they are ex Muslims. Why? Because they are pathetic attention seekers and the fact that they are an ex Muslim is their identity.
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Absolutely. These guys are totally lost in their bitterness and misery. Move on, no one cares at your personal angst and regret.
 
The ability to perform Hajj or Umrah is ultimately a matter of divine providence—just as being prevented from it is also by divine will. As human beings, we often only grasp the outward causes—illness, financial constraints, visa issues, quotas—but these are merely the visible layers. In reality, those who are meant to make the journey will do so, and those who are not, will not.

These are spiritual matters, and once spirituality is removed from the equation, the deeper wisdom behind them becomes inaccessible. It’s almost comical—though truly tragic—to see individuals like @Farhan The Man , who claim to have left Islam after "11 years of Madrasah education," still deeply entangled in its discourse. For someone who claims to have moved on, Islam seems to live rent-free in his mind.
 
An amazing achievement from Zubaida and Haroon and their engineers and workers. May Allah grant both Jannat. Ameen
 

Saudi govt call centre now offering support in Urdu, other languages for Hajj pilgrims​


The Saudi government on Wednesday announced that its 937 Health Call Centre was now offering multilingual support to Haj pilgrims around the clock, including in Urdu.

Haj, one of the fundamental pillars of Islam, is performed each year by millions of Muslims worldwide. Pakistan receives one of the highest Haj quotas from Saudi Arabia.

According to a press release from the Saudi Embassy, the call centre “plays a vital role in the Kingdom’s healthcare response during Haj.”

“The centre is designed to enhance access to health services, offer medical guidance, and ensure [a] timely response to emergencies,” the press release read.

Source:
 
I performed Umrah once and loved it. InshaAllah I am hoping to perform Hajj in the next couple of years.
 
LordJames said:
The ability to perform Hajj or Umrah is ultimately a matter of divine providence—just as being prevented from it is also by divine will.
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Who knew saudi immigration are now executors of divine will.

For able-bodied pakistani hajies. Who paid in full. Yet denied entry to "heaven".

That is next level authority.
 

67,000 Pilgrims to get refunds by October 31, here’s how much​

The Ministry of Religious Affairs, Sardar Muhammad Yousaf, has announced the processing of refunds for 67,377 Hajj pilgrims, with a total of Rs3.45 billion to be credited directly to their bank accounts. The refunds will be completed by October 31, 2025, as part of the government’s efforts to ensure fairness and transparency in the Hajj process.

According to the ministry, pilgrims will receive refunds based on their actual expenses. Specifically, 14% of pilgrims will be refunded between Rs12,286 and Rs12,000, while 16% will receive refunds ranging from Rs13,000 to Rs25,000.

Additionally, 20,302 pilgrims will receive Rs75,000, and 408 pilgrims will be refunded Rs110,000.

For those not eligible for refunds, it was noted that they had already received services in line with their payments.

In terms of facilities, all pilgrims will be provided with a trolley bag, a handbag, and scarves for women. Additionally, a Saudi mobile SIM card will be issued to all pilgrims, offering internet access and up to 3.5 minutes of free calls.

For pilgrims participating in the 40-day Hajj programme, the cost will be Rs11,50,000, while those opting for the shorter Hajj will need to pay Rs12,00,000. The official scheme bookings have been completed, with bookings for the private quota nearly finalised.

Addressing concerns about health and safety, Dr. Attaur Rehman, Secretary of Hajj, stated that strict actions have been taken to address any complaints received from pilgrims. This year, there will be a stringent policy ensuring that sick individuals, including those with final-stage cancer, tuberculosis, or pregnant women in their last months, will not be permitted to travel for Hajj.

The government is focused on ensuring that the Hajj pilgrimage this year proceeds smoothly, with full attention to health guidelines and efficient processing of financial transactions.

Source: The Express Tribune
 
Umrah visa validity to be curtailed from next week

The Saudi Ministry of Hajj and Umrah has reduced the validity of Umrah visas from three months to one month from the date of issuance, Saudi news channel Al Arabiya.net reported.

The new amendments, which will go into effect from next week, also includes the cancellation of the visa 30 days after its date of issuance in case the pilgrim has not entered the kingdom within this period.

Reducing the visa’s validity, however, will not affect the permitted duration of stay after the pilgrim arrives in Saudi Arabia. All those arriving to perform Umrah are allowed to stay for three months.

The changes were made to prevent overcrowding of pilgrims in the two holy cities during cooler months, according to Ahmed Bajafar, adviser to the National Committee for Umrah and Visit.

Although Umrah rituals are solely performed in Makkah, many Umrah pilgrims seize the chance to visit Madina during their short trip to Saudi Arabia.

In October, Riyadh introduced stricter Umrah rules, including mandatory pre-booking of accommodation and verifying transport bookings on Nusuk or Masar upon arrival. The kingdom has recently made it clear that holders of all types of visas are allowed to perform Umrah during their stay.

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Pilgrims with certain diseases, health conditions to be barred from performing Haj in 2026

The Saudi government has imposed a restriction on pilgrims with certain health conditions, including chronic and infectious diseases, from performing Haj next year, according to a notice on the Ministry of Religious Affairs website.

The notice, citing the Saudi health ministry, lists organ failure such as kidney diseases requiring dialysis, heart diseases in cases where patients are not capable of even slight exertion, chronic lung disease with patients requiring intermittent or continuous oxygen and liver failure or liver cirrhosis as conditions that do not meet the criteria for Haj.

The list also includes those suffering from neurological or cognitive disorders that affect memory, dementia and severe physical disability. Moreover, aged individuals with Alzheimer’s or suffering from tremors, as well as pregnant women in their last trimester or with those with complicated pregnancies, would also face restrictions.

Furthermore, those with infectious diseases that pose a risk to others in large gatherings, such as whooping cough, open pulmonary tuberculosis and viral haemorrhagic fever, would also be barred from performing Haj.

The list further includes patients suffering from advanced stages of cancer and undergoing chemotherapy, biological or radiological treatment.

The religious affairs ministry in Pakistan urged doctors to issue health certificates to the pilgrims after proper verification to avoid legal action and warned that in case of any false and incorrect declarations about health, the relevant pilgrim would have to return from Saudi Arabia at their own expense.

In case any of the above-mentioned illnesses were detected in an individual while getting vaccinated, medical officers at the Haj camp would be authorised to stop them from travelling, the notice stated.

Saudi monitoring teams would verify the validity of the pilgrims’ fitness certificates at the entry and exit points and locations of Haj to ensure that only those meeting the health criteria participate in the pilgrimage, the notice said.

Source: DAWN
 
At least 42 Indian Umrah pilgrims, many of them reportedly from Hyderabad, are feared dead after a bus travelling from Mecca to Madinah collided with a diesel tanker near Mufrihat in Saudi Arabia early Monday.

The impact of the crash was severe, leaving multiple passengers dead and several others injured, according to initial reports.

Emergency teams and local authorities rushed to the spot to carry out rescue and relief operations. Officials are still verifying the exact number of casualties and identifying the victims.

The Consulate General of India in Jeddah has set up a 24x7 control room to assist affected families. The helpline numbers shared by the mission include a toll-free line: 8002440003.

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said he was “deeply shocked” by the accident. In a message on X, he stated that the Indian Embassy in Riyadh and the Consulate in Jeddah were providing the “fullest support” to affected nationals and their families. He offered sincere condolences to the bereaved families and prayed for the speedy recovery of the injured.

Telangana Chief Minister A Revanth Reddy expressed shock over the horrific accident. He instructed Chief Secretary K Ramakrishna Rao and DGP B Shivadhar Reddy to urgently gather details of the victims and ascertain how many passengers from Telangana were on board.

The state government is coordinating with the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) and the Saudi Embassy to assist affected families. A control room has been set up at the Telangana Secretariat, with helplines 79979 59754 and 99129 19545 for relatives seeking information.

Hyderabad MP Asaduddin Owaisi expressed grief over the tragedy. Speaking to ANI, he said he had contacted two Hyderabad-based travel agencies and shared passengers' details with the Indian Embassy in Riyadh. He also spoke to Abu Mathen George, Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM), who informed him that local authorities are gathering information and will update the mission soon.

“I request the Union Government, especially EAM Dr S. Jaishankar, to bring the bodies back to India and, if anyone is injured, ensure that they receive proper medical treatment,” he said.

Further updates are awaited as authorities continue verification and coordinate relief measures.

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Link: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...rabia-bus-tanker-collision-2820990-2025-11-17​
 
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raj’uun.

May Allah accept them as shuhadah and into Jannah, and may he give their families and loved ones peace and ease, Ameen.

I know many Muslims wherever they may be from would love to be buried in any of the 3 holy cities especially in Jannat al Baqi. If that is what they wanted then may Allah SWT grant them that as well, Ameen.
 
RIP!

This is truly sad. Umrah I believe is pilgrimage, a noble act. To lose their lives while they were going to perform their religious duties is extremely sad.​
 
Terrible news. That’s too many people. The impact of it on so many families would be devastating. Praying for the families.

Road accidents had been a big problem in Saudia in the past. A lot of impatient drivers with powerful cars and trucks. I have personally witnessed many near misses and incidents of road rage there. They had to enforce very strict rules and regulations to drop the rate. A Pakistani narrated to me how the authorities provided him full support when his car was hit by a local Saudi. Things are improving m. But you never know what to expect when you’re out of downtown Jeddah, Riyadh and into remote areas.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Terrible news. That’s too many people. The impact of it on so many families would be devastating. Praying for the families.

Road accidents had been a big problem in Saudia in the past. A lot of impatient drivers with powerful cars and trucks. I have personally witnessed many near misses and incidents of road rage there. They had to enforce very strict rules and regulations to drop the rate. A Pakistani narrated to me how the authorities provided him full support when his car was hit by a local Saudi. Things are improving m. But you never know what to expect when you’re out of downtown Jeddah, Riyadh and into remote areas.
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You have been there?
 
Bhaijaan said:
Terrible news. That’s too many people. The impact of it on so many families would be devastating. Praying for the families.

Road accidents had been a big problem in Saudia in the past. A lot of impatient drivers with powerful cars and trucks. I have personally witnessed many near misses and incidents of road rage there. They had to enforce very strict rules and regulations to drop the rate. A Pakistani narrated to me how the authorities provided him full support when his car was hit by a local Saudi. Things are improving m. But you never know what to expect when you’re out of downtown Jeddah, Riyadh and into remote areas.
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Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Rajioon. May Allah SWT grant them place in Janna and patience to their families, ameen.

On my last trip there, about three years ago, our taxi driver was talking on the phone, eating pistachios, and watching entertainment on another mobile device while driving from Mecca to Madinah. That’s a recipe for disaster.
 
IAJ said:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Rajioon. May Allah SWT grant them place in Janna and patience to their families, ameen.

On my last trip there, about three years ago, our taxi driver was talking on the phone, eating pistachios, and watching entertainment on another mobile device while driving from Mecca to Madinah. That’s a recipe for disaster.
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Goodness! That is simply unacceptable.
 
IAJ said:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi Rajioon. May Allah SWT grant them place in Janna and patience to their families, ameen.

On my last trip there, about three years ago, our taxi driver was talking on the phone, eating pistachios, and watching entertainment on another mobile device while driving from Mecca to Madinah. That’s a recipe for disaster.
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I generally avoid Arab drivers. If it’s a Bangladeshi or Pakistani, it’s much better and safer. Many Arab drivers often throw tantrums while driving and even when it’s their fault they try to pick fights with other drivers especially when they see it’s an immigrant. Of course not all are like that and there are many gentlemen also but definitely a lot of thugs.
 
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raj’uun.

A terrible tragedy for all the familes concerned. The standards of driving in Saudia are awful and our taxi driver in 1999 kept falling asleep between Makkah and Medina.
 
Some of the driving is crazy over there.

What a tragedy this is.

There is something about the subcontinent that whenever a tragedy takes place the numbers are never low. Lots of our people get wiped out time and time again, due to human errors, we complain about it, and move on till it happens again.

Subcontinent Muslims pour a lot of money into Saudia Arabia through Hajj and Umrah and do more the Saudi economy than events like Boxing yet are content with low quality infrastructure. They are just happy to be there
 
It reminds me of the terrible news about my friend’s family. There were six people in total a couple and their four children. Two of the children were twins who are my university fellows, and their other two siblings were minors: a 14-year-old sister and a 9-year-old brother. They were on a road trip to perform Umrah when they had an accident. Only the mother and one of the twins survived. It was incredibly devastating news.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Some of the driving is crazy over there.

What a tragedy this is.

There is something about the subcontinent that whenever a tragedy takes place the numbers are never low. Lots of our people get wiped out time and time again, due to human errors, we complain about it, and move on till it happens again.

Subcontinent Muslims pour a lot of money into Saudia Arabia through Hajj and Umrah and do more the Saudi economy than events like Boxing yet are content with low quality infrastructure. They are just happy to be there
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Fair point.
Muslim pilgrims have poured so much money to Saudi Arabia over the years yet they treat it as a separate identity of theirs while they seem to celebrate Western tourism identity a lot more. It seems the F1, WWE, UFC etc tourists are more valuable to them than the Pilgrims.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Some of the driving is crazy over there.

What a tragedy this is.

There is something about the subcontinent that whenever a tragedy takes place the numbers are never low. Lots of our people get wiped out time and time again, due to human errors, we complain about it, and move on till it happens again.

Subcontinent Muslims pour a lot of money into Saudia Arabia through Hajj and Umrah and do more the Saudi economy than events like Boxing yet are content with low quality infrastructure. They are just happy to be there
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Ive been on this road a few times. There are a lot of checkpoints, its a very good road but some of the vehicles on this road are old, not maintained. We dont know the cause of this but it happens all to regular, it seems.

Sad for the families.
 

Govt extends deadline for second instalment of Hajj dues​

The federal government has extended the deadline for submitting Hajj dues by three days, giving intending pilgrims a final opportunity to pay the second instalment of their dues.

According to the spokesperson for the Ministry of Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony, Muhammad Umar Butt, applicants must deposit the required dues by November 19. He said that failure to submit the second instalment will result in the cancellation of Hajj application.

Earlier, Saturday was the last day to deposit the payments. The Ministry of Religious Affairs had announced that all nominated banks would remain open on Saturday to facilitate applicants of the 2026 Hajj scheme in paying their second instalment of dues.

The ministry also urged intending pilgrims to receive a computerised receipt after depositing their dues. This is to avoid any inconvenience or potential issues with pilgrims’ application, ensuring a smooth process.

The government scheme sends Pakistani citizens to perform Hajj, providing a roadmap of all steps that must be completed in the process. The government also provides guidance and packages to facilitate citizens during their journey. The scheme includes the traditional 38 to 42-day packages, as well as a shorter 20 to 25-day option, with estimated costs expected to range between Rs1.15 million and Rs1.25 million.

The first phase of the scheme kicked off in early August this year, receiving more than 70,000 submissions from eager Pakistanis. The second phase started on August 11, with applicants advised to hold on to their passports until November 26, 2025, at the least. The Hajj scheme functions on a first-come, first-served basis. With the payment of dues complete, successful applicants will be able to begin their sacred journey.

A day earlier, Saudi Arabia imposed strict medical conditions for Hajj 2026, barring a wide range of seriously ill pilgrims from performing the Hajj and introducing a deportation policy for those who arrive in an unfit condition. According to the Saudi Ministry of Religious Affairs, any pilgrim found medically unfit will be sent back to their home country, and the cost of repatriation will be borne by the pilgrim.

The Saudi Ministry of Health has issued detailed medical guidelines setting out conditions that disqualify applicants from Hajj. The ministry said that individuals with kidney diseases, including those on dialysis, will not be permitted to perform Hajj in 2026. It added that heart patients who are unable to endure physical exertion are also barred.

Pilgrims suffering from chronic lung or liver diseases, severe neurological or psychiatric conditions, weak memory or dementia, and other significant disabilities, will also be prohibited.

Restrictions have additionally been placed on the elderly suffering from severe age-related illnesses, including Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases. Pregnant women and those diagnosed with whooping cough, tuberculosis or viral haemorrhagic fevers are also disallowed from travelling for Hajj. Cancer patients have likewise been declared ineligible under the new guidelines.

The Ministry of Religious Affairs said medical officers will have the authority to stop unfit individuals from travelling before departure. Saudi monitoring teams will verify the authenticity of fitness certificates, ensuring that only pilgrims meeting essential health standards proceed to the holy sites.

Source: DAWN
 
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