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8.34 Lakh Say Goodbye India: The Only Solution?

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The trend of Indians renouncing their citizenship in favor of foreign nationalities is on the rise due to factors like better education, job opportunities, medical facilities, and favorable investment climates.

In the past five years alone, 8,34,000 Indians have given up their citizenship.

Before the COVID-19 pandemic (2011–2019), about 132,000 Indians renounced their citizenship annually. This number surged by 20% to 158,000 per year between 2020 and 2023.

Many Indians are moving abroad not just for higher education and jobs but also for improved financial opportunities and a higher standard of living.

The need for visas to travel to many countries with an Indian passport contrasts sharply with the visa-free travel offered by passports from countries like the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, and Singapore, which further motivates Indians to seek foreign citizenship.

Key Statistics:

– From 2018 to 2023, 114 countries saw Indians acquire their citizenship.
– The majority settled in the US, Canada, Australia, the UK, and Germany.
– Over the past six years, 70 people acquired Pakistani citizenship, 130 acquired Nepalese citizenship, and 1,500 opted for Kenyan citizenship.

– India has the second-largest number of international students after China, with 1.5 million students studying abroad.

Indian law does not permit dual citizenship, so those who acquire foreign nationality lose their Indian citizenship.

Returning to India requires a visa, but the Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) card, introduced in 2006, allows visa-free entry and private employment in India. However, this card only became available in 2015 after the Person of Indian Origin (PIO) card was discontinued.

Experts suggest that implementing dual citizenship could potentially reduce the number of Indians renouncing their citizenship.

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8.34 Lakh Say Goodbye India: The Only Solution?

Indian law does not permit dual citizenship, so those who acquire foreign nationality lose their Indian citizenship.
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They are all running away from fascist Modi. That is what Mr. Bharat wants us to believe.😂
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
@Rajdeep @Romali_rotti @gani999

Is this true? :inti
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That is quiet obvious na?

What is the point of tagging us?

More importantly what is the point of this thread?

What is the message you are trying to give to the esteemed posters here by virtue of this thread?

Indians move enmasse overseas is known to everyone. The fact that India don't allow dual citizenship, people give up Indian one to seek better livelihood overseas.

Pls educate us what are you trying to tell us here and why did you tag only 3 of us.

Thanks,
Rajdeep.

:kp
 
In general most Indians are economic migrants.

These numbers will continue increasing with time unless western nations put restrictions on economic migration/student visa.
 
Rajdeep said:
That is quiet obvious na?

What is the point of tagging us?

More importantly what is the point of this thread?

What is the message you are trying to give to the esteemed posters here by virtue of this thread?

Indians move enmasse overseas is known to everyone. The fact that India don't allow dual citizenship, people give up Indian one to seek better livelihood overseas.

Pls educate us what are you trying to tell us here and why did you tag only 3 of us.

Thanks,
Rajdeep.

:kp
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Why so defensive, @Bhaijaan? I found this article and you three were the first people I thought of. Consider yourselves lucky to be in my elite tagging circle. :kp :inti
 
Also, we keep hearing minorities are treared poorly in India. However, not a single soul leaves the border and takes refuge overseas citing religious persecution like minorities people from neighbouring nations does.

Bunch of hypocrites..
 
Hikaru said:
More Indians are migrating to first world countries, nice revelation brother, had no idea.
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Purpose of this thread was to blame Modi. Looks like OP failed spectacularly yet again by stating the obvious.

:kp
 
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Rajdeep said:
Purpose of this thread was to blame Modi. Looks like OP failed spectacularly yet again by stating the obvious.

:kp
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Despite there being no mention of the word "Modi" in the original post, you are still feeling insecure. I wonder why? :kp

Chor ki daadhi mein tinka? :inti
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Why so defensive, @Bhaijaan? I found this article and you three were the first people I thought of. Consider yourselves lucky to be in my elite tagging circle. :kp :inti
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Bro im not in the right frame of mind right now. I will give my inputs when i have the time to put together a quality arguement. Cheers
 
Indian nationalism is soo flawed. They are ready to throw away their passport for some goras passport
 
Rajdeep said:
Also, we keep hearing minorities are treared poorly in India. However, not a single soul leaves the border and takes refuge overseas citing religious persecution like minorities people from neighbouring nations does.

Bunch of hypocrites..
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Many Sikhs claim religious persecution to get PR in Canada. Trudeau is a kind heart and grants them asylum.
 
My own brother and his family is settled in Australia. My job was to look after my parents here, and I've done that to my fullest ability. Unfortunately, my father passed away in 2021. People look for better standards of life, and hence move to developed countries.​
 
RexRex said:
The result of 10 years of Modi is this ?
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Yes, in last 10 years the middle class has increased. Middle class has higher aspirations everywhere and migrate for better opportunities.

This data shows modi govt in favourable light.
 
When your economic conditions improve, so do your aspirations. After a certain point, those aspirations can only be met by moving to a developed country.

May more people move out to developed countries to pursue their dreams.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Under a million out of over a billion ppl gave up their Indian citizenship over the last 5 years per the OP article that seems a little low, whats the situation down in your country Pakistan :inti ..
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Out of those millions, you were one of the lucky ones I tagged. So, please answer my question. :inti
 
India is not a developed country and its ok to move to other countries for better opportunities.

Have to appreciate China in this matter. A Phd guy from Stanford moves back to China to join as a provisional officer in tier 4 town in China. Their pay is comparable and it allows educated folks to enter political system.
 
CricketCartoons said:
When your economic conditions improve, so do your aspirations. After a certain point, those aspirations can only be met by moving to a developed country.

May more people move out to developed countries to pursue their dreams.
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Thanks for the great insight mate.
 
Rajdeep said:
The fact that you think @Bhaijaan (a punjabi) and I (a Bengali) are same person shows your innocence. Hahaha
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He thought I'm behind several different accounts, and I’ve played along with it. For instance, when one of the accounts he believed was mine started a thread, I would reply with 'delete,' making him think I forgot to switch accounts. It’s amusing to mess with him.
 
Seventy individuals have acquired Pakistani citizenship, meaning they're no longer Indian, so much for the claim that no Indians are moving to Pakistan! Now, they might need to amend that statement to, 'Well, not too many Indians are moving to Pakistan.' It's a subtle difference, but hey, details matter!
 
HalBass9 said:
Seventy individuals have acquired Pakistani citizenship, meaning they're no longer Indian, so much for the claim that no Indians are moving to Pakistan! Now, they might need to amend that statement to, 'Well, not too many Indians are moving to Pakistan.' It's a subtle difference, but hey, details matter!
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Interesting, who are these people > ?
 
Major said:
Who ia denying about pakistan?

The fact that you had to deflect from india only shows ur insecurity
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The point is that it is not related to nationalism. Pakistan was an example.

The fact that you missed the main point and read only Pakistan shows your insecurity.

Don't be se insecure.
 
CricketCartoons said:
The point is that it is not related to nationalism. Pakistan was an example.

The fact that you missed the main point and read only Pakistan shows your insecurity.

Don't be se insecure.
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Of course, it is not about anything else, it has always been about the economy. Hindutva proponents, in their usual simplistic manner, tend to reduce it to mere nationalism.

If given the chance, 220 million people would undoubtedly seize the opportunity to leave India as well.
 
RexRex said:
Bengali ? Which means Rajdeep is both Bhaijan and CricketCartoons. How many accounts does he have jeez.
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I want to know what does he do for a living. How does he find time to do all that on PP if he works? unless he works as a member of India's cyber cell spreading online terrorism on Pakistani forums. :ROFLMAO:
 
India has surplus of educated population. The ones that can afford to seek opportunities abroad always will do. You can never get the lifestyle in India that you can afford in US or Australia or Europe. However there are cons to living abroad too. You can easily afford domestic help in India. That is not possible abroad.
 
Champ_Pal said:
India has surplus of educated population. The ones that can afford to seek opportunities abroad always will do. You can never get the lifestyle in India that you can afford in US or Australia or Europe. However there are cons to living abroad too. You can easily afford domestic help in India. That is not possible abroad.
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well if they keep migrating to foreign lands at this rate, domestic help problem might be solved as well in a few years. :ROFLMAO:
 
Champ_Pal said:
India has surplus of educated population. The ones that can afford to seek opportunities abroad always will do. You can never get the lifestyle in India that you can afford in US or Australia or Europe. However there are cons to living abroad too. You can easily afford domestic help in India. That is not possible abroad.
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I am quite certain that if the opportunity were presented, even the domestic help would gladly leave India to serve as a domestic worker for some Westerner.
 
I have actually seen some Indian domestic help in the US and Canada as well.

This one Indian female, I believe was all over the news for using her domestic help she had got from India as a slave and for violating her civil rights. It was a few years ago.
 
HalBass9 said:
I am quite certain that if the opportunity were presented, even the domestic help would gladly leave India to serve as a domestic worker for some Westerner.
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Yes. There are no visa categories for domestic helps in the West.

However many travel to Middle East to serve fat Arabs in their kitchens and living rooms. They can earn more for the same effort or more.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Yes. There are no visa categories for domestic helps in the West.

However many travel to Middle East to serve fat Arabs in their kitchens and living rooms. They can earn more for the same effort or more.
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Actually in the US there is something of the sort but since you have to pay tax and the employee has to pay tax as well most people avoid it. It becomes very expensive. the cases I have seen of such nature here are usually under the table sort of arrangements.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Yes, in last 10 years the middle class has increased. Middle class has higher aspirations everywhere and migrate for better opportunities.

This data shows modi govt in favourable light.
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That’s the first step, the second step was that in the last 15-20 years there has been lot of awareness about immigration and countries like Australia/Canada opened up their borders to increase their workforce.

A lot of immigration consultancies opened up which sent students.

Those people who migrated to western countries take anywhere between 5-10 years to get their citizenship, so you will see these numbers increase in next few decades unless western nations restrict visas.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Yes. There are no visa categories for domestic helps in the West.

However many travel to Middle East to serve fat Arabs in their kitchens and living rooms. They can earn more for the same effort or more.
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I am still certain that even if Indians were capable of offering better wages, most would still choose to leave India to serve as domestic help in Arab countries. After all, many would rather serve wealthy Arabs than remain in a country plagued by one of the highest diabetes rates in the world.
 
Major said:
Indian nationalism is soo flawed. They are ready to throw away their passport for some goras passport
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Yes. Lack of dual citizenship and of course we are a long way from first world hence for middle class it's the best option
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Oh you are a Bengali, plz lobby Mr Modi to open border for your brethren stranded in BD. Also someone had to fill the void by outflux anyway.
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I was born in a Bengali family but being Bhartiya and Sanatani is my only identity. I only love or support people who follows my ideology irrespective of whether they are Bengali, Gujarati, Punjabi whatever.

This varies from state to state in India ofcourse. If you ask a person from Tamil Nadu for example, they take more pride for being Tamil than Indian or Hindu. For me its exactly opposite...I couldt give rats rear end if I am bengali or not....Indian and Hindu is my only identity.

Rajdeep.
 
Stewie said:
I want to know what does he do for a living. How does he find time to do all that on PP if he works? unless he works as a member of India's cyber cell spreading online terrorism on Pakistani forums. :ROFLMAO:
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I don't know about others, but I am neither employed, nor do I have a business. I spend my day reading books, learning three instruments from three teachers, another fine arts teacher because I want to be good at portrait painting, and swimming. Oh and preparing for half marathon which is in two months.
 
not able to deal with modi's 3rd term and RaGa sleeping away in the parliment.

Regarding migration, by 1990, IIT-Madras had a north american alumini association that was 6000 member strong. This is from 1 school.

all before BJP sniffed power. So under the "seculars" 70% of one of the most qualified group of people chose to migrate.
 
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India doesn't support dual citizenship. Proportionately more move out of Pakistan than India and most are economic migrants. Indians have moved out of India for economic reasons for decades. Nothing to with modi or Manmohan before that. It will be same in future irrespective of which government comes to power
 
HalBass9 said:
I am still certain that even if Indians were capable of offering better wages, most would still choose to leave India to serve as domestic help in Arab countries. After all, many would rather serve wealthy Arabs than remain in a country plagued by one of the highest diabetes rates in the world.
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Diabetes rate in India - 11.1 %

Saudi Arabia - 17.7 %

Least you could do is stop arguing for the sake of argument.
 
They have flooded the UK causing chaos for the working class job market and soaring rents for housing .
But those rioters think they are muslims and pakis who have flooded the land when it's these indians .
 
HalBass9 said:
I am still certain that even if Indians were capable of offering better wages, most would still choose to leave India to serve as domestic help in Arab countries. After all, many would rather serve wealthy Arabs than remain in a country plagued by one of the highest diabetes rates in the world.
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Many also prefer the western culture. Many adopt western names .

I wonder how many decades or centuries it will take the BJP to turn India into a first world nation . So far the land was most prosperous under the so called invaders.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Many also prefer the western culture. Many adopt western names .

I wonder how many decades or centuries it will take the BJP to turn India into a first world nation . So far the land was most prosperous under the so called invaders.
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The land was prosperous, that is why invaders came in the first place. They didn't turn a poor country prosperous.
 
CricketCartoons said:
The land was prosperous, that is why invaders came in the first place. They didn't turn a poor country prosperous.
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We know for sure it was rich for centuries , maybe the wealthiest on the planet.

How long will it take to reach the same level under BJP?
 
KingKhanWC said:
We know for sure it was rich for centuries , maybe the wealthiest on the planet.

How long will it take to reach the same level under BJP?
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Your question is wrong. It should be "How long will it take to reach the same level?" Answer is never. No matter which party is ruling.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Your question is wrong. It should be "How long will it take to reach the same level?" Answer is never. No matter which party is ruling.
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Why not ? If India was the wealthiest only a few hundred years ago under invader rule , why not now under Hindu rule ?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Why not ? If India was the wealthiest only a few hundred years ago under invader rule , why not now under Hindu rule ?
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Islamic golden age was achieved during muslims, then why that is not being replicated under....muslim rule again?

I mean raise your level of discussion if you want a response from me. You are nearing 50 years and did too much boxing. Clearly you have no idea of colonial exploitation, technological advancements and global dynamics playing more important role than the religion of the person ruling a country.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Islamic golden age was achieved during muslims, then why that is not being replicated under....muslim rule again?

I mean raise your level of discussion if you want a response from me. You are nearing 50 years and did too much boxing. Clearly you have no idea of colonial exploitation, technological advancements and global dynamics playing more important role than the religion of the person ruling a country.
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There are Muslim countries which are rich now .

But let’s stick to this dream of Hindutva shupapower. I’m simply asking when ? Modi has been around a decade but still huge slums in major cities?
 
KingKhanWC said:
There are Muslim countries which are rich now .

But let’s stick to this dream of Hindutva shupapower. I’m simply asking when ? Modi has been around a decade but still huge slums in major cities?
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Why isn't Islamic Golden age being recreated. Despite still being ruled by muslims?
 
CricketCartoons said:
Why isn't Islamic Golden age being recreated. Despite still being ruled by muslims?
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Wrong cookie or wrong thread .

Have a guess ? Before the biscuit become stale , within modis office term , 100 years or 1000 years ? How long until India is no longer 3rd world?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Wrong cookie or wrong thread .

Have a guess ? Before the biscuit become stale , within modis office term , 100 years or 1000 years ? How long until India is no longer 3rd world?
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The answer lies in the question if you think about it.

Why haven't muslims been able to recreate the Islamic Golden Age?
 
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