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A case for Ambati Rayudu in the Indian middle order again?

jaisan

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Indian odi middle order is at its most brittle since 99-00. Suresh raina, kedar jadhav, Manish pandey
Ajinkya rahane , kl Rahul and rayudu were tried in recent times.

Rahane don't have the attacking play in the later overs.

Apart from rayudu others don't have the defence game to see through the tough period.

He is averaging over 50 but his strike rate is in the seventies because he played mostly in bowler friendly conditions even though the opposition is weak.

PPers call him hackadu but look at kedar s batting.

India should recall rayudu to play at 4.
 
You must have seen his once in a blue moon IPL innings, some 5 or more years back. If Jadhav is a hack then Rayudu is hack^2 :))
 
If Manish Pandey gets as many opportunities as Jadhav then he will prove to be a worthy middle order btsman.
 
Rayadu? :)))

At this point, to me KL Rahul is the only talented guy who can shine at the top level.

Manish Pandey is a mental midget. He simply cannot replicate his IPL success at Int'l level. I mean he smacks the same Southees, Pereras and Aus pacers in IPL. But cannot score against the same players at the highest level.
 
You must have seen his once in a blue moon IPL innings, some 5 or more years back. If Jadhav is a hack then Rayudu is hack^2 :))

So how exactly has hack^2 managed to get an ODI batting average of 50+ in 34 innings? Care to explain?
 
Rayadu can't get the ball off the square. He could have got a spot - that too briefly - in the 80s and 90s when they had room for the stodgy, limited and 30 something merchants, but not now, not these days.
 
I just can't wrap my head around why Rayudu is not a permanent fixture in Indian side despite having a good IPL record and possessing the right technique and temperament to succeed at international level. He has always been on the sidelines, in & out of the Indian side without giving him a long rope to establish himself. The guy would walk into our side with no question asked, that's how good he's is.
 
He may not be great but he's certainly better than the ones you currently have. This is the weakest Indian side I've seen in the past decade maybe even longer.

Your bowling has always been a worry in ODIs but it was mostly your formidable batting that did the damage and piled up more than enough runs for your bowlers to defend. However, when I look at the team sheet now, its your batting that is a cause of concern. Other than top 3 and an ailing Dhoni, who is a shadow of his past self, there is no one that you can rely on to deliver on consistent basis. No wonder a rejuvenated Pakistan team stacked with young players made a mockery of your batting in CT final.

Honestly speaking I've never felt confident of our team winning a bilateral series against you guys in the past decade uptil now. Not saying your batting won't put up a fight, you may still win but it doesn't strike as much fear as it used to in years gone by.
 
No... Just no....no! Please no.... Not even in dreams.... No.... I beg you.... No.....
 
He may not be great but he's certainly better than the ones you currently have. This is the weakest Indian side I've seen in the past decade maybe even longer.

Your bowling has always been a worry in ODIs but it was mostly your formidable batting that did the damage and piled up more than enough runs for your bowlers to defend. However, when I look at the team sheet now, its your batting that is a cause of concern. Other than top 3 and an ailing Dhoni, who is a shadow of his past self, there is no one that you can rely on to deliver on consistent basis. No wonder a rejuvenated Pakistan team stacked with young players made a mockery of your batting in CT final.

Honestly speaking I've never felt confident of our team winning a bilateral series against you guys in the past decade uptil now. Not saying your batting won't put up a fight, you may still win but it doesn't strike as much fear as it used to in years gone by.

Pak is a better ODI unit than India currently.

Amir/Raees/Shinwari can easilyremove 2 of the top 3 batsmen in India easily.

So even if one of the top 3 scores big, the rest of the batting cannot score more than 100 between them. Which means India will be bundled out for under 250 even on flat surfaces.

Pak batting is still not great. But if Fakhar clicks, it will be easy win for Pak. If Fakhar fails, it will be a 50-50 game.

Overall, Pak will beat India 3-2 in a 5 match ODI series at this moment.

Pak has blooded in youngsters while India is still playign has been oldies who have no potential to improve or turn things back.

Worst part is, India has some talented players they can inject into the team. Selectors are scared chickens.

Its better to lose a few and find a couple of gems than win with a bunch of oldies with only top 3 scoring bulk of the runs and giving false hope.
 

He has a stellar ODI record, an average of 50 in good sample size of ODI games but still not rated highly by Indians. Tbh a SR of 76 isn't that bad, ask Azhar, Shehzy and the rest. You can't expect every batsman in the lineup to bat at 90-100 SR especially the middle order. To me that is more than convincing record to warrant his selection in the lineup. Wonder why he was dropped in the first place.
 
You have to look into the match score card to know how fast other batsmen are scoring..
 
Pak is a better ODI unit than India currently.

Amir/Raees/Shinwari can easilyremove 2 of the top 3 batsmen in India easily.

So even if one of the top 3 scores big, the rest of the batting cannot score more than 100 between them. Which means India will be bundled out for under 250 even on flat surfaces.

Pak batting is still not great. But if Fakhar clicks, it will be easy win for Pak. If Fakhar fails, it will be a 50-50 game.

Overall, Pak will beat India 3-2 in a 5 match ODI series at this moment.

Pak has blooded in youngsters while India is still playign has been oldies who have no potential to improve or turn things back.

Worst part is, India has some talented players they can inject into the team. Selectors are scared chickens.

Its better to lose a few and find a couple of gems than win with a bunch of oldies with only top 3 scoring bulk of the runs and giving false hope.

Correct.

Speaking of playing oldies, no denying the fact that Dhoni has slowed down and isn't no where his previous best but he's still good enough to justify his spot in the side, however the same can't be said for Yuvraj, he's way past it, don't know how he keeps coming back to the side despite looking woefully out of touch in almost every game he plays.
 
Correct.

Speaking of playing oldies, no denying the fact that Dhoni has slowed down and isn't no where his previous best but he's still good enough to justify his spot in the side, however the same can't be said for Yuvraj, he's way past it, don't know how he keeps coming back to the side despite looking woefully out of touch in almost every game he plays.

I am not really worries about these meaningless bilateral ODI's that India has been playing non-stop.

MSD at 37 is scoring his 20's and 30's at an appalling S/R of under 80 when ever I see him. He is supposed to be the finisher. A finisher usually has over 100 S/R. Once in a blue moon he has a good outing with the bat. Most of the times, he struggles to even rotate the strike.

If a 37 yr old MSD is struggling, what will a 39 yr old Dhoni will do in 2019 WC? Will he still be the finisher that India can rely on? No Sir.

IMO, MSD should bat behind Pandya or even Jadeja if he plays. No.5 is too high a position for him. He is a mere tailender now. I rate his batting on par with Ashwin in ODI's. Both struggle to hit big.
 
No thanks. I would rather let Jadhav continue playing for India than bringing Ambriyanidu come back.
 
I am not really worries about these meaningless bilateral ODI's that India has been playing non-stop.

MSD at 37 is scoring his 20's and 30's at an appalling S/R of under 80 when ever I see him. He is supposed to be the finisher. A finisher usually has over 100 S/R. Once in a blue moon he has a good outing with the bat. Most of the times, he struggles to even rotate the strike.

If a 37 yr old MSD is struggling, what will a 39 yr old Dhoni will do in 2019 WC? Will he still be the finisher that India can rely on? No Sir.

IMO, MSD should bat behind Pandya or even Jadeja if he plays. No.5 is too high a position for him. He is a mere tailender now. I rate his batting on par with Ashwin in ODI's. Both struggle to hit big.

This is where I've to disagree, yes his ability to strike big has declined massively in past couple of years but he's still good enough to bat in the middle order, and this is what Indian team management have also realized, prompting his promotion up the batting order.

Ideally he should bat at 4 because he can rotate strike efficiently which is required from a middle order batsman to build an innings, and he'll be much more suited to that role now that his game finishing ability has dwindled. India should invest in a proper finisher, maybe someone like Pandya and groom him in Dhoni's position.

Nonetheless I still believe that he has it in him to play till WC 2019 but he should be utilized as an innings builder at a higher batting position rather than expecting him to finish the game.
 
I started a thread for him and he bags a duck in his first innings of this year Rani trophy..
 
Indian batter Ambati Rayudu has joined the St Kitts & Nevis Patriots for the 2023 Republic Bank Caribbean Premier League. Rayudu will replace Tristan Stubbs who is now no longer available.

Rayudu is a veteran of 61 international matches for India and has played 291 T20 matches so brings a vast amount of experience with him. Rayudu was part of the Chennai Super Kings that claimed their fifth IPL title in May this year.

With over 4000 runs in the IPL and international pedigree, Rayudu represents a big signing for the Patriots who will be looking to reclaim the CPL title they won in 2021.

The 2023 CPL season gets underway on 16 August with the Patriots playing their first match against the Trinbago Knight Riders on 19 August.
 
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