How is Babar Azam the solution to Pakistan’s middle order spin issue in T20?

[zaidihusain]

The blind fans that celebrates the dismissal of a Pakistani batsman just to see Babar walk in at crease should honestly arrange a separate ground for him, equipped with bowling and fielding machines. They can enjoy his cover drives and straight drives. There’s no need for Babar to play for Pakistan if his fans only care about his batting and not the team’s success.

 

[Rana]

The blind fans that celebrates the dismissal of a Pakistani batsman just to see Babar walk in at crease should honestly arrange a separate ground for him, equipped with bowling and fielding machines. They can enjoy his cover drives and straight drives. There’s no need for Babar to play for Pakistan if his fans only care about his batting and not the team’s success.

He’s been forced into the side because his fans were making life a living hell for the selectors, coaches and captain.

Ive always maintained, Babar and Rizwan fans are not Pakistan fans.

 

[TheSultan]

The blind fans that celebrates the dismissal of a Pakistani batsman just to see Babar walk in at crease should honestly arrange a separate ground for him, equipped with bowling and fielding machines. They can enjoy his cover drives and straight drives. There’s no need for Babar to play for Pakistan if his fans only care about his batting and not the team’s success.

Absolutely right. Can pp create a seperate forum for them too. They can King, King to their heart’s content!

 

[Devadwal]

Absolutely right. Can pp create a seperate forum for them too. They can King, King to their heart’s content!

Then PP needs two new sub forums - One for Duck King supporters and another for Rizbar haters. Both of groups can support/ criticized them 24*7 there.

 

[zaidihusain]

He’s been forced into the side because his fans were making life a living hell for the selectors, coaches and captain.

Ive always maintained, Babar and Rizwan fans are not Pakistan fans.

I reckon even the sponsors have created pressure on PCB & selectors to keep Babar in the team with or without performance

 

[topspin]

The blind fans that celebrates the dismissal of a Pakistani batsman just to see Babar walk in at crease should honestly arrange a separate ground for him, equipped with bowling and fielding machines. They can enjoy his cover drives and straight drives. There’s no need for Babar to play for Pakistan if his fans only care about his batting and not the team’s success.

And this individual was promoting this behaviour:

How am I supporting Babar more when I don't care about his hundreds He helps us win and that's all that matters.



Yea so delusional. For your information the last two series were played in Pakistan. Those were Pakistani fans cheering at wickets dropping so that they can support Babar. Canada ho ya Pakistan fans all over the World support him. So again how come you can't see this. What is wrong with you?

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

@Raja Ishtiaq @gazza619

At 31, still struggling to score against anyone but Zimbabwe. Is this your idea of greatness?

Still better than YK in LOI cricket.lol. I know your still hurt from earlier seeing the majority of posters on here siding with the likes of me and @gazza619 by ridiculing YKs ODI career but it's OK. Let it go

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

These Babar fanboys constantly trash talk YK as if Babar would’ve strolled into the 2000s lineup, when in reality, he wouldn’t have stood a chance.

Babar failing in a T20 game does not make Younis Khan better than Babar in ODI cricket


Think that's enough internet for me lol

 

[Rana]

Babar failing in a T20 game does not make Younis Khan better than Babar in ODI cricket


Think that's enough internet for me lol

Younis Khan even right now with his current age and fitness is more useful to the Pakistan T20i team than Babar if Babar was supposedly the saviour for spin decks!

Jo karna hai karle! Jitna rona hai ro le iss baat per! This is the sad reality!

 

[topspin]

Babar failing in a T20 game does not make Younis Khan better than Babar in ODI cricket


Think that's enough internet for me lol

Babar would’ve been exposed in Pakistan’s 2000s setup - those spinners from that era would’ve chewed him up.

Outside of his century against New Zealand in the 2019 WC, he’s yet to deliver a truly defining white ball innings. Younis Khan, on the other hand, produced multiple standout knocks and captained Pakistan to their only T20 World Cup title.

YK was the far more valuable white ball asset. Babar’s numbers are padded against weaker sides and diluted bowling attacks.

What’s next - Babar’s captaincy was superior to Younis Khan’s?

Last 5 innings of Babar Azam in 170+ run chases in T2OIs

0(2) vs SL
0(2) vs SA
0(4) vs SA
75(42) vs Ireland
0(4) vs Ireland

These are his test averages in the last 3 years:

2023: 22.67
2024: 20.20
2025: 31.50

Last test hundred was in 2023

His strike rates in ODIs over the last 2 years:

2024: 76.51
2025: 77.16

The less said about his incompetence in T20Is the better.

 

[Rana]

Babar would’ve been exposed in Pakistan’s 2000s setup - those spinners from that era would’ve chewed him up.

Outside of his century against New Zealand in the 2019 WC, he’s yet to deliver a truly defining white ball innings. Younis Khan, on the other hand, produced multiple standout knocks and captained Pakistan to their only T20 World Cup title.

YK was the far more valuable white ball asset. Babar’s numbers are padded against weaker sides and diluted bowling attacks.

What’s next - Babar’s captaincy was superior to Younis Khan’s?



These are his test averages in the last 3 years:

2023: 22.67
2024: 20.20
2025: 31.50

Last test hundred was in 2023

His strike rates in ODIs over the last 2 years:

2024: 76.51
2025: 77.16

The less said about his incompetence in T20Is the better.

Sr of 76-77 in 2024-25???!!!

Younis Khan had that sr playing cricket in the early 2000s-2010!

Why are these Zimbu fans getting worked up if they are told that guys from 2 decades ago were more glued on in their era compared to these two frauds of this era?

 

[topspin]

Sr of 76-77 in 2024-25???!!!

Younis Khan had that sr playing cricket in the early 2000s-2010!

Why are these Zimbu fans getting worked up if they are told that guys from 2 decades ago were more glued on in their era compared to these two frauds of this era?

It’s wild to see just how ineffective Babar looks these days even when most of the bowling attacks he faces are depleted.

The crowd that insists Babar > Younis Khan in white ball cricket clearly haven't gone beyond a surface level glance at the stats. Their argument is so shallow you could just as easily claim Babar is better than Inzamam simply because he’s stacked up more centuries, has a higher average and scored his runs at a faster strike rate.

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC AND STOP SHARING USELESS STUFF EHRE THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW ANYWAY

 

[daytrader]

And this individual was promoting this behaviour:

Always playing ignorant, how convenient.

It's not just a Babar fan group, the average Pakistani supports him.

Pakistanis are at a junction in time where we will celebrate even the small things. We've matured over time to back our heroes regardless of their flaws. Deal with it!

 

[daytrader]

All-Time Great hai yeh lol.

Watching Babar Azam and his fan club is like watching a magician who keeps dropping the cards, but the audience still claps - most notably from @Raja Ishtiaq @gazza619 @BouncerGuy @daytrader @Caved12

Aye hye some people's life revolves around Babar that they have to post bad about him in every match.


Pehle Misbah tha abb Babar. Another 10 years of top tier posting coming

 

[BouncerGuy]

Aye hye some people's life revolves around Babar that they have to post bad about him in every match.


Pehle Misbah tha abb Babar. Another 10 years of top tier posting coming

They will not say a single word against Farhan, saim, fakhar, salman. But they will keep crying in the name of babar...\

I am enjoying the bhangra of these guys...

 

[Rana]

They will not say a single word against Farhan, saim, fakhar, salman. But they will keep crying in the name of babar...\

I am enjoying the bhangra of these guys...

Yes, we will not say a word about genuine T20 players playing T20 cricket as compared to frauds who have no business in this format!

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yes, we will not say a word about genuine T20 players playing T20 cricket as compared to frauds who have no business in this format!

hahaha.... OK

 

[Rana]

hahaha.... OK

hahaha.... OK

Yes that’s the attitude you had when Pakistan were knocked out of the first round in the 2024 World Cup having lost to USA as well.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yes that’s the attitude you had when Pakistan were knocked out of the first round in the 2024 World Cup having lost to USA as well.

same attitude when we lost 3 times against India??

 

[Rana]

same attitude when we lost 3 times against India??

It’s not nearly, NEARLY as bad as being humiliated by USA.

That’s your standards it seems. You probably feel losing to the best T20i side in the world is equal to losing to USA. Of course, you probably feel scoring runs against Zimbabwe is equal to scoring runs against Chameera too.

 

[BouncerGuy]

It’s not nearly, NEARLY as bad as being humiliated by USA.

That’s your standards it seems. You probably feel losing to the best T20i side in the world is equal to losing to USA. Of course, you probably feel scoring runs against Zimbabwe is equal to scoring runs against Chameera too.

LOL.... You forgot avour 2 finals and 1 semi-final as well so I guess your standard is this as well...

 

[Rana]

LOL.... You forgot avour 2 finals and 1 semi-final as well so I guess your standard is this as well...

Oh the Asia cup in which Pakistan lost 2 times against Sri Lanka, were saved by a tailender against Afghanistan and also lost to a mediocre Indian T20 team without Bumrah and Kuldeep??

Oh and also the final in which Netherlands pulled an upset against South Africa for Pakistan to advance into the next round? In which Harris played a couple of blinders to lift Pakistan? The same Harris who you people look for every single, bloody opportunity to disgrace??

 

[BouncerGuy]

Oh the Asia cup in which Pakistan lost 2 times against Sri Lanka, were saved by a tailender against Afghanistan and also lost to a mediocre Indian T20 team without Bumrah and Kuldeep??

Oh and also the final in which Netherlands pulled an upset against South Africa for Pakistan to advance into the next round? In which Harris played a couple of blinders to lift Pakistan? The same Harris who you people look for every single, bloody opportunity to disgrace??

You are too angry for babar's comeback in the team, we understand... It hurts..

 

[zaidihusain]

same attitude when we lost 3 times against India??

Losing to strong team like India is much more graceful than losing against USA, Zimbabwe, Ireland. Babar has these disgraceful accomplishments under his captaincy

 

[Rana]

You are too angry for babar's comeback in the team, we understand... It hurts..

It’s a shame that you are not angry enough! You should know Pakistan matters more than individuals!

 

[BouncerGuy]

It’s a shame that you are not angry enough! You should know Pakistan matters more than individuals!

I am angry... Why will I not be angry... We lost to India three times in a single event... Who is responsible for that?? You had all the intent merchants you wanted in the team yet we lost badly... What have you achieved??

 

[Rana]

I am angry... Why will I not be angry... We lost to India three times in a single event... Who is responsible for that?? You had all the intent merchants you wanted in the team yet we lost badly... What have you achieved??

How did Pakistan “lose badly”??? You are distorting reality

There are question marks on your reading of the game. You were acting like Pakistan won the WTC, 1992 World Cup and T20i World Cup all in one night the day after Babar hit a hundred against Asitha Fernando and Pramod Madushanka

 

[gazza619]

Still better than YK in LOI cricket.lol. I know your still hurt from earlier seeing the majority of posters on here siding with the likes of me and @gazza619 by ridiculing YKs ODI career but it's OK. Let it go

By the way @Rana also claims Marvan Attapatu (strike rate of 67) to be a great ODI player.

 

[gazza619]

The crowd that insists Babar > Younis Khan in white ball cricket clearly haven't gone beyond a surface level glance at the stats.

 

[heddie19]

He did really well today.

 

[Rana]

He did really well today.

Yeah the score was 215! There is no way we were chasing that without Babar

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

He did really well today.

It was a clinical innings by Babar. Fans got their money worth and went home happy

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yeah the score was 215! There is no way we were chasing that without Babar

Tell that to farhan, saim, salman, fakhar...

 

[Rana]

It was a clinical innings by Babar. Fans got their money worth and went home happy

Fans must have paid 50p which equates to 15 Pakistani rupees.

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

Yeah the score was 215! There is no way we were chasing that without Babar

We understand your not a true Pakistan fan and are only happy if Rizbabar don't perform......even if that means we lose the match

 

[Rana]

We understand your not a true Pakistan fan and are only happy if Rizbabar don't perform......even if that means we lose the match

No, Rizwan and Babar fans do not get to tell others who is and who isn’t a Pakistan fan.

We have established their disloyalty to the country!

The same RizBar scums were very happy when India beat Pakistan in the final because it may have opened the door for their favourites to return.

 

[TheSultan]

It was a clinical innings by Babar. Fans got their money worth and went home happy

What with singaaal and dubbaaall?

 

[topspin]

We understand your not a true Pakistan fan and are only happy if Rizbabar don't perform......even if that means we lose the match

It’s actually the other way around, you act as if you’ve been appointed as RizBar’s spokesperson.

 

[Rana]

What with singaaal and dubbaaall?

15 rupees money worth

 

[TheSultan]

15 rupees money worth

Exactly - and this whole fandom is so contrived. People leave stadiums etc when an exciting player is out, someone who is known for hitting sixes.

And these paid up social media plants expect us to believe people want to watch babar bat to watch singaaal dubbaaal? I mean make it believable.

And if they say “oh these fans are more refined, mature fans who appreciate the intricacies of “anchoring”, and “strike rotation” and “playing on merit”, then ok, but why do they act like jahils cheering and willing for one of their own players to get out just to get him in? Where is the “maturity” and “refined” behaviour.

 

[heddie19]

Yeah the score was 215! There is no way we were chasing that without Babar

Babar chased 200+ totals more time than anyone in Pakistan.

 

[Rana]

Babar chased 200+ totals more time than anyone in Pakistan.

It was questionable the first time.

And reality is, it’s never happening again.